He’s right. From a LFC fan. Glad to see another club put out a statement rather than wait to accept a useless apology.

@Fmfcg

Ай бұрын

115

@Drunken_Horse

Ай бұрын

Fan groups need to band together sue premier league fa and pgmol for selling a defective product. Only way this changes

@shspurs1342

Ай бұрын

Tottenham fan here 100 percent agree with you.

@shspurs1342

Ай бұрын

@@Drunken_HorseIt Not VAR that’s the problem. VAR officials see what we all see. But still give the wrong decisions. It’s corrupt.

@tumi269

Ай бұрын

Trust a LFC fan to tell you they are a LFC fan even when it really does not matter.

This dude speaking the truth and I’m a United supporter

@Fmfcg

Ай бұрын

That's not reflecting well on United

@theheadoftable-respect4139

Ай бұрын

@@Fmfcg what?! Oh go play in the traffic nerd

@andrewwright4195

Ай бұрын

Howard web is utd fan​@@theheadoftable-respect4139

Cundy playing baby crying sounds over a caller stating facts that 98% of fans agree with just shows how out of touch these pundits are getting

Dean Saunders is such a pudding. Completely schooled by this caller. 😂

@Gigity1107

Ай бұрын

yeah it was obvious, but he thinks it was the other way round!

@daveyt86

Ай бұрын

His arguments are always dumb.

@hammertic

Ай бұрын

😮 He's not the sharpest tool in the box , just a tool .

@danieltan6742

Ай бұрын

@@hammertic A paid tool

@shspurs1342

Ай бұрын

@@danieltan6742exactly most of these so-called pundits. Are nothing more than corporate shills. The media has regular meeting with people who run football.

Can’t push back on anything the caller said so revert to taking the piss out of him with jokes…you need to do better Talksport

@user-dx4fh7he1g

Ай бұрын

The caller is right... Saunders want to take the fukin piss

@arejaycee5704

22 күн бұрын

Thats Talksport for you. Not a serious debate to be had on here

The refs are a joke. This incompetence is starting to look like corruption

@adamwhite1556

Ай бұрын

It is corruption 100%. It's getting embarrassing.

@shspurs1342

Ай бұрын

You’re wrong because it is corrupt. VAR refs see it all. Then obviously give the decision for the team they’re told to. It’s far to obvious now.

@Johnnyquid20

Ай бұрын

Incompetence lol will you wake up .

@shspurs1342

Ай бұрын

@@Johnnyquid20 exactly, it should be far to obvious to everyone one before now.

@Johnnyquid20

Ай бұрын

@shspurs1342 fact like it or not Liverpool should still be about 7pnts clear That diaz offside was crazy blatant

I owe that fan a pint 🍺

@AItakover

Ай бұрын

He speaks all of our minds and even the pundits..LOL 😮😢

Fan is 100% right.

Spot on. No one in the media, not a single person has said what the fans are thinking. All of them, down to a man, has been on the side of the PGMOL! He’s right, they’re scared of the PL not giving them the rights to games, so they’ve all condemned Forest!

@lemmyclerkenwellgunner1665

Ай бұрын

You called it 100% correct . Remember they side with the pgmol every time and it's all for the match freebies . It's clear when a manager complains the likes of Talksport go immediately into overdrive and call it a rant , predictable.

Simon Jordan completwly backed the pgmol and asked for Forest to get "smacked" as he calls it. Stop being tools

@paulrichards6894

Ай бұрын

exactly

@Marais-cu3vo

Ай бұрын

Simon Jordan is repulsive, best known for bankrupting Crystal Palace.

Saunders is a complete clown,he makes a fool of himself constantly

@paulrichards6894

Ай бұрын

drink driver

"Deano you're Welsh" 😂

Ex head of referees Keith Hacket said the PGMOL have got it wrong. Well done to Forest for calling this out.

@user-tm5zb5yf8c

Ай бұрын

They insinuated corruption, dumb comment.

I agree with you forest fan. The media are cowards. What do we have VAR for assholes

Completely true. It’s shocking how the mainstream media defined the PGMOL

What a fantastic caller he’s got it spot on

Officiating in premier league has been embarrassing all season and more clubs need to take action like forest have, all these pundits saying “you can’t say that” are basically just saying just get robbed and learn to love it!

He's spot on.

The media pundits have lost the plot. They are NOT really listening to the fans.

Nobody could teach Dean Saunders how to be a competent football pundit

@johnanthonybrailsford474

Ай бұрын

That’s true and teach him to be a football manager

Simon Jordan didn’t call out the pgmol, what’s he cundy on about. Jordan wanted forest dealt with

@docholiday-lm4vf

Ай бұрын

Cundy just summed up his point

@josephkerrigan733

Ай бұрын

He's just talking nonsense because the guy was 100% bang on that the reason they don't criticise the PGMOL & the referee's is because they're scared that if they call out their incompetence they won't get any coverage anymore.

I'm an arsenal fan i watched the whole game between forest and everton and I'm disgusted by the corrupt officials and sick of those pundits defending PGMOL ....those are not mistakes you have to question the integrity of the referees and nothing wrong for the statement of nottingham forest on X.

@andrewwright4195

Ай бұрын

Yh happens to every club mate

@andrewstratford4753

Ай бұрын

Nice one gooner from a nffc fan.

@andrewwright4195

Ай бұрын

@@andrewstratford4753 arsenal only care when it happens to them so they don't have to call out players

@danieltan6742

Ай бұрын

@@andrewwright4195 i beg to differ less to 115 tho

Brilliant caller and they turned his well presented call into jokes.. All media will never turn on refs because they would be sacked.. It's never gonna stop and will only get worse.. 😢

Completely onside with this guy. The officials are a complete law unto themselves. As for how to teach...sack them. They'll get it right then.

@lukew6725

Ай бұрын

As if the FA isn't in on the corruption. The whole thing needs to get torn down and rebuilt.

Neville won't call out his mate Webb, just like he didn't with Ole!

@buffalosowljah373

Ай бұрын

yeah bcause he nows webbchester is a fanboy of his beloved club

Doesn't matter what team you support there's no way a Luton fan should be anywhere near VAR for that match I'm not saying he cheated but why even leave the door open for it to be an issue it's mental that it was allowed to happen and that is what needs sorting, the person who allowed it should be replaced. Now i want to know why not 1 not 2 but 3 penalty decisions weren't reviewed because something stinks.

Cundy going on about European refs is a disgrace. I have watched plenty of Italian, German and Spanish football this year and they are light years ahead of us

@Marais-cu3vo

Ай бұрын

Spain? Where Real Madrid keep getting decisions in their favour? Did you watch the game vs Almeria? They gave them non-existent penalty and disallowed a valid Almeria goal…

Deliberate is irrelevant. It’s clumsiness. Defenders don’t foul people in the box deliberately either. Don’t be a wally Saunders

@scotthands4396

Ай бұрын

He meant he let the defender foul him, not the other way around

The background producer playing that crying sound is proof what what the caller is saying

@Mephisto077

Ай бұрын

It was really pathetic, kindergarden radio station.

Talksport 5live sky sports TNT do have regular talks with the PGMOL when it comes to broadcasting rights. Of course the mainstream media are going to defend referees

Dean saying you can’t be taught var…there’s brain and heart surgeons out there, astronauts and god knows what. But you can’t learn var? Are we being serious

@scotthands4396

Ай бұрын

Yes but all surgeons make mistakes, astronauts make mistakes, some people are just better at a job no matter how much training they do

@jayt6200

Ай бұрын

@@scotthands4396 exactly

Facts , you in the media waaaaaay too scared to say anything & you know it!.

aww, the producers fresh outta college are in they're ear to lighten the situation, thats a shame.

He really ask what Webb can do to teach him what to do right?? 😂😂 How about do your job as the head of PGMOL and properly correct issues during your supposed required weekly/monthly meetings to review games and learn lessons. Sheesh

The Officiating at the Forest game was a disgrace and we know it’s bad officiating.

The caller is 100% right, it's starting to look like the media, FA and government all pee in the same pot. His suggestion to get some foreign ref's in is also spot on.

this guy is spot on, fair play

Nottingham forest are only saying what others are thinking. At least they have the bottle to say it .well-done forest. It's about time somebody said something. The premier league is a disgrace. And the refs are dros.

Man said we got the best refs in the world 🤣🤣😋😋some of this people must be living in jupiter. What a stupid thing to say. Disgraceful

Fully behind the forest fans, about time somebody stood up to them. It's been a joke for a while now. They all seem too scared to say anything about PGMOL. This caller is spot on. 👏

A United fan and am with this guy 💯 percent ! These absolutely disgusting standards of refereeing needs to be called out and the mainstream is terrified to do it !

The average football fan would do a better job at VAR than the officials are doing! We would get far less wrong

The whole problem with Nottingham forest game is the var official is a Luton fan

@BrandonBelshaw

Ай бұрын

Not the fact we was cheated 3 penalties yeah alright lad

As an Arsenal fan wow wat a call spot on i have been saying all season we need howard webb resignation and changing of the laws VAR is not a problem those idiots using it are the problem

Spurs fan so have no bias in this. I totally agree with Nottingham Forest on this. 'How dare a football club question someone's integrity' Dermot Gallagher stated on Sky - He is so good at his job that he is chosen for Champions League matches, he didn't mean to but by saying that, he confirmed that for that particular match he was biased against Notts Forest. No referee in their right mind would turn down that 3rd penalty, zero chance that can happen unless you are being affected by something else. His integrity is right to be questioned. But of course, you are not allowed to call a spade a spade when it comes to referees.

@andrewstratford4753

Ай бұрын

Agree mate but dont call us notts forest we already have notts county.

Stop changing laws every season . There is no need

@petersmith2522

Ай бұрын

That is a good point what was wrong with how football was when the premier league first started they have done the same with football as the tories have done with the country changed something that worked into something thats broken

9 of the top 10 positions in the PGMOL from Webb down are held by people from Yorkshire and the 10th lives in Yorkshire.

@ashwilliams4959

Ай бұрын

Like a little family

@davidb9531

Ай бұрын

How did that work out for Yorkshire Cricket Club

Chelsea fan here - that was one of the best callers I’ve ever heard on this show. Read ‘em the rights - Simon Jordan’s the biggest ref bum lick of the all. Refs need less protection not more - people need to be able to criticise them and they need to have punishments for being useless at their job, rather than be immune when high profile mistakes do affect clubs money and league standings.

If you are not scared let’s hear from you, all you in the media! It is time for those that are football fans to be counted. We get these apologies and Howard Webb claiming sack cloth and ashes. Make it work!

We are all with NFFC!!!

I'm an Evertonian and we've been at wrong end of horrendous descions over the last couple of years..!! The penalties 1st 2 are totally subjective 1st pen Reyna throws himself to the ground with hardly a touch so Reyna was looking for a pen, 2nd pen handball was literally a yard away with Young running backwards arms in a natural position so 50/50 some given some aren't seen this all over the weekend (ie) Grelish (not given) Wan Bissaka (given), the PGMOL at beginning of season given everytime ball hits arm pen given but eventually realised lots of them shouldn't gave been given for so raised the bar about close proximity of arms in natural or unnatural positions so since Xmas PGMOL stopped given pens for handball when defenders hands were in a natural position as in it wasn't a deliberate handball so stopped giving them from a ball half-yard away from a defender running in a natural position..!! The 1 I admit I feel sorry for Forest and only stonewall pen was the 3rd challenge from liability OAP Ashley Young..!! But for Forest to say Atwell wanted Everton to win as a Luton fan makes no sense as best result for Luton was a draw not an Everton win in fact a Forest win would have put all 3 clubs closer together than an Everton win..!! So Luton biased towards Everton to beat Forest doesn't help Luton at all..Finally as an Evertonian the PL and Masters wanted Everton deducted 17points for their 2 breaches but got 8 only due to appeals and Independent Appeal Committee realised that 9points for administration were 100's of jobs and screwed Everton massively wanted to deduct 17points basically to relegate us even if we'd have won every game afterwards so don't say the Powers That Be favour Everton cos you're taking the piss and PGMOL refs have made some terrible descions in Everton games..!! So you still saying we've benefited from the refs of the PL

@paulrichards6894

Ай бұрын

thought all 3 were pens

The officiating as been poor in all leagues

Facts

He's right.......all pundits ridicoule the claims of corruption but.....its soo blatent

This guy speaks a lot of sense and says it perfectly. I'm a Forest fan and it's not just Forest, other clubs have had these issues with VAR all season. How the officials can get so many of these decisions wrong with the technology we have is laughable. Your average fan would likely get the majority of these decisions correct. How can anybody not think there's corruption in the league?

They can start by being banned from going abroad to ref, you shouldn’t get these privileges when you’re abysmal at your job

@saralgupta5250

Ай бұрын

Already are. Remember not too long ago, there was no English referee at 2018 World Cup. Officiating in England has been poor for some time.

Why do they still allow Dean Saunders near a microphone? The man has nothing to contribute to any discussion.

@paulrichards6894

Ай бұрын

drink driver i have no time for

the media is complacent with the PGMOL.. They try to gaslight the fans

Handball..deliberate hand was a red card. If the ball was going in and hits an arm it's a foul..so a penalty.

@ashwilliams4959

Ай бұрын

Yeah deliberate should be cards depending how deliberate but hanging an arm out and blocking during a natural movement doesn't deserve a card but definitely a foul

It is so heartening to see so many sensible fans from so many clubs recognising why Forest are so frustrated. The people who should matter most in the sport are the fans who spend money supporting their clubs not these 'pundits' and media vultures who milk a living on the back of the money we spend. The tweet was clumsy but the sentiment was exactly the same as many other clubs/managers and these hypocrite media personalities have previously expressed.

He's spot on absolutely spot on

The issue with this it's taking the focus of the worst decision of the weekend which was the one stole the cup final from Coventry.

Fair to the caller speaking the truth

Lying to cover up incompetence is a kind of corruption. We should talk about Howard Webb as corrupt. We should talk about PGMOL as corrupt. We should talk about media enablers who are corrupt, too.

Well done to the forest fan, he’s totally right on what he says. Has anyone seen Talksport

Spot on!

Great call young man, despite Deano talking b******s

Of course you could train someone up who doesn't understand it currently. There's serious corruption going on because there's no way they can't actually be that incompetent.

The guy is spot on. I would say that the one thing var has done well is that they have further exposed the utter incompetence at pgmol. Football is not that complicated. Especially with new age tech helping them, but it hasnt gotten any better

This guy Darren is bang on here. Of course it can be taught. The rules of the game can be taught to anyone, it’s as simple as that.

Pgmol and the media need to realise the game belongs to the fans. Not them.

100% right behind this. Its a joke

I'm from Swansea and Saunders is shocking, I'm not French but I could learn French, arguing the handball law is just inviting subjectivity, did it hit his hand? Yes. bUt If ThE TMO pLaYeD fOoTbAlL.. 💀

Callers right. You can teach anyone to do any job, professionals like to think what fhey do is hard but its not. And anyone whose that incompetent at their job should lose it, whether or not they are a professional.

Jason Candy actually said we have the best refs in the world. You see the problem here

A man who speaks sense, these footballers don't understand they all think they are special. Only I can talk about football, we know best etc. it's pathetic

The caller making great points & these clowns trying to distract the conversation by raising irrelevant topics but yet claiming no one is scared to call out the PGMOL. PGMOL/SKYSPORTS/TNTSPORTS/NBCSN/TALKSPORTS WE SEE YOU 👀 you can teach anybody anything Its up to the individual to take it in. Yes the refs has gotta worst as the season goes on. In the championleague, yes you get 1 or 2 decisions that seem back but 90% is fast & no one complain about it. Only one that comes to mind that the english bias media blow up about is the newcastle handball agaisnt psg. You had a former head of the PGMOL keith who spoke with common sense about how it was when he was in charge & he didnt had var These lot have to double down & try saying "if you play the game" vibes trying to make it seem only if u play the game professionally you know football That do be the dumbest assumption & excuse they keep saying which makes no sense

4:16 this caller is a hero, bang right about the media being scared of saying anything and then pulls Saunders Welsh pants down for good measure. Class.

“What can he do to teach him to do a better job” Saunders - WTAF!!!! if I don’t do my job I’d get sacked, and if the manager doesn’t sack me cos I’m incompetent then he should get sacked!!? Caller on a different planet of intellect to these 2 hyenas.

If decisions are subjective why bother with VAR - it's a waste of time!

So many excuses boys for absolute rubbish. Football is multi billion pound business and incompetence or worse, is not acceptable and should be punished accordingly, if necessary, legally

Forest have been held back big time this season clearly but the Everton match was a big one will always be remembered

That first caller put his point across brilliantly and spoke a lot of sense

Talk Sport talking garbage, not sport, lol, because they're on the take. Just like the PGMOL from their Man City owners in the Middle East. Glad Forest have said it as it is 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Darren fan is correct about PGMOL. Forest have the balls to call out exactly what all us fans are all thinking

Spot on Darren 👍 it’s getting worse

Everton fan here, the guy spot on .

Callers spot on!

The caller made all good points, but the hosts turned it into a joke segment. What a shame because this could have been a good debate. By the way, anyone can learn how to do any job. It's called education.

This is funny because when Arsenal & Liverpool put out a statement, fans were all over us for it but now fans are all backing Forest for some reason.

@cmac9686

Ай бұрын

Because the Arsenal and Liverpool incidents were each one moment in a game and likely a case of incompetence. The Forest one however reeks of corruption and makes you question the integrity of the PL.

Dan needs to be on the show moving forward.

I dont understand why forwards put half hearted crosses in at arm level. If youre on the run you can move your hand quicker than your feet so drill it low across the floor then he cant handball it

Great caller, the responses to his points were so stupid. Deano waffles so much.

Were fed up with the usual lip-service and weekly apology from the PGMOL, it's poor. Imagine if I kept getting my job wrong and I just said "sorry" each time. I wouldn't last long in my job.

So their defence is to try and imagine jobs they couldn't do in order to belittle his point

This likely what happened: forest complained about var and Webb told Attwell and he retaliated against forest. That was pure retaliation. “How dare you complain about me? I will deal with you.”

Spot on caller

If a player tackles a player but misses the ball and gives away a foul, it is not always a deliberate act to have made contact but (typically) it’s deemed to have interfered with play so a fk or whatever is given. If a player is in an offside position it’s necessarily deliberate and they may not make contact with the ball but maybe obscure gk vision etc therefore interfering with play. So regarding handball whether it is deliberate or not is not a factor in my mind. It’s whether it significantly interferes with play. Which in the case of the grealish one I think it does and the young one I think it does. The grey area for me would be when it hits another part of the body first not allowing you to get arms out the way.

This guy is spot on

So why did talksport tell Mark goldbridge his not allowed to call them corrupt