Please keep us updated re ginger warrior we all want to know how he is doing your doing a fantastic job

Unfortunately the whole wall is going to have to be redone. I've built boats and repaired boats. Its just delaminated across the whole wall. The corners have been bumped by the cows so hopefully that doesn't affect the warranty of the fiberglass. Protecting the corners will help for a while but the moisture will collect behind the wall and then it will come off in sheets. I see no other solution as bad as it was than to completely have it redone OR go back with something else under warranty. Great video though. Interesting about the hot water heater. Interested to find out just how much you save over the course of the year!!

In the states we have what is called frp (fiberglass reinforced plastic). Comes in thin panels and is adhered to walls with a glue or mushroom anchors. Very durable product that is used on our car wash walls and other areas that need to be protected from water. Might be worth checking out for future projects.

Just a tip on going into the bulk tank. Get a 5 gallon bucket and tie a string onto the handle. Have the string long enough to hang outside the tank opening. When you go into the tank take the bucket in with you. Then when you want to get out, turn the bucket upside down and use it as a step to get out a bit easier.Then pull the bucket out with the string. Job done. Been there , done that.😄😄😄

@TomPembertonFarmLife

4 ай бұрын

Great idea! 👏👏👏

@ericwilson5742

4 ай бұрын

Been there done that too lol

That must be so aggravating given the time ,money and of course effort that was put in to get that parlour finished. I would definitely be pushing for a massive compensation package to cover the cost of replacement as and when the time comes Tom. You’ve been very gracious in not naming the company but obviously that will depend on how they resolve the issue without causing you down time in the Parlour. Nice saving on the Heating element 🤜🏼⚡️🤛🏼

did two years apprenticeship as a Mason during college, anytime we coated bricks with anything we primer coated with a material that had to dry two days before any finish to seal the brick and give adhesion to the brick.

Tom you probably already know about this but what we did on our parlour years ago was to attach large blue plastic sheets to the walls, they were a few mm thick so very durable (I don't think they ever broke) and they were very easy to clean. As it's just the corners hopefully you might not need to go that far. Trouble is since you've now got fibreglass on your walls you need to be careful and wear a mask when drilling into it.

I can't remember the video of them doing it but don't know if they SBR'd the walls, this step is vital. The amount of blown plaster my company went out to. Also dont use them plastic stips, they will damage up and look really dirty in no time really quickly, get the stainless ones. Good job on the wall guys.

@stuartandrews4344

4 ай бұрын

Blockwork should have had a month to throughly dry out,then prime brick & blockwork with SBR & then rendered before fibreglassing, agree with you about using SS corner profiles.

I have always given my hair sheep and the donkey my Christmas tree when I am done with it. They enjoy eating it, rubbing against it and it gives them nice piney breath!

@jeanmm2996

4 ай бұрын

I still have my two Christmas wreaths. I wonder if it might give me nice piney breath. During my upcoming surgery, the anesthetist might start singing "oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree..." jk.

Those corner trims are glued to the fibreglass surface?, bet they come off with the fibreglass still stuck to them. The 'fix' doesn't address the lack of bond between wall and fibreglass layer... Hope I'm wrong, but I guess I'll see....

@koryleague8833

4 ай бұрын

I kinda thought the same thing

@jimmyjohnstone5878

4 ай бұрын

Yes, it's stupid to try to stick these corner bits on now.

Fibreglass is bubbling due to the moisture in the wall, and also how about fitting an Alexa to the stereo so you can ask her to switch off the radio when you go into the parlour filming

@martinregan6765

4 ай бұрын

Alexa idea is genius

@sampowell6240

4 ай бұрын

@ritch195 they don't need internet but they do need a wifi network

@mrdando

4 ай бұрын

Think they have WiFi

That heat recovery is a great idea. Hope that wall holds out. Kind of disappointing with how much it cost, and so much of the parlour is attached to it. Any major repair is going to be an absolute nightmare.

@stuartandrews4344

4 ай бұрын

No chance...

@WhirlyPearly

4 ай бұрын

Should be warranted.

@TomPembertonFarmLife

4 ай бұрын

@@WhirlyPearly5 years on it 🤦‍♂️

@billjoat

4 ай бұрын

@@TomPembertonFarmLife I think I would recoup the money from the warranty and choose something else.

We have both heat recovery on the milk tank and pre-cooling with water before milk tank 👍

How frustrating for you having the fibreglass blow, hopefully it can be sorted before dad gets back to work, hope he is doing well❤❤

Lots of comments here😮 you would have thought corner protection would've been part of the package😇🙄 maybe they're a newish company learning as they go? Fingers crossed ye'll sort it.. belt and braces where farming is concerned😊

You could have coated it with a 2 pack coating Teamac have and is use in parlour. I hope the manufacturer sorts it out for you if they don’t shout and I’ll send you some product to try.

Loving seeing how the farm is slow updating and the content is amazing shows the good the bad and ugly Farming is a live style it’s Support uk farming ❤❤❤

Hope all the family are well Tom 👍

Should have had concrete panels to start, that finish on the blockers is shocking. Then fibreglass panels over. You live and learn.

Tom PLEASE Update as to how you Dad id feeling Great I hope.....But we all would like to know.

Thanks for the video Tom.

☘️Interesting video Tom, hope the weather gets better for you and continued success in the future 😊👍☘️

My preference would of being to plaster the parlour walls and steel float them and then paint them with a special paint, but every one to there own

I put heat recovery in when I got a new tank think it was 3 years ago now. I love mine it works brilliantly for us! Hot water on a mixer tap to feed our calf feeder and the parlour wash/tank wash is all connected.

Great video as always

great video tom you will get there

Tom if my mind remembers properly, when you went to "sisters in wellies" farm they had the same brick wall you have, and they didn't have the problem you're having with the fibreglass coating

@pamelanoirot1427

4 ай бұрын

If you look where they stand when they are milking there is a big Crack going along on both sides.

@TomPembertonFarmLife

4 ай бұрын

They paid them with swimmer pool paint. It had cracked after 2 years unfortunately 🙈

@teresabrewer2661

4 ай бұрын

​@@TomPembertonFarmLife oh no. Thanks for letting me know. I really hope you're able to fix the problem, because using pressure jetting, which you need to use to clean the milking parlour will just exacerbate the problem

204th! Good Tuesday evening Tom, Luke,HIEDI,and all my best wishes to the ginger warrior with a mustache! Roger in Pierre South Dakota USA

Great video. Always something to see great work

On your heat exchanger make sure there is a thermostat that will dump water when it gets above 65 degrees as they start to work in reverse we found with ours in hot weather and takes even longer too cool milk. The biggest saving is the reduction in compressor running the hot water is a bonus!

That’s awesome, hope it saves you bunches! How is your dad doing? Love and prayers 😇💜

Chelmsford Council built an ice rink underneath one of their public swimming pools and even back in the 1990s it was saving the council a million or two by dumping the heat from the ice coolers onto a heat exchanger to heat the swimming pool

I have wondered how you pass inspection with the bulk tank exposed. That would not pass here in the USA. As for the fiberglass coating on the walls. IF it is applied to smooth walls that are completely cured. Meaning no moisture in the wall. Then the fiberglass coating works. The bubbles your getting are more than likely caused by moisture behind the coating rather than air pockets. The plastic corners that your gluing on will not stay with the cows rubbing by them. I hope that the fiberglass coating stays on but I am thinking it will just keep falling off. The vast majority of dairies here have poly boards attached to the walls. They are slicker than the fiberglass and they are much more rugged.

And why is fiberglas bubbling and comming off? Water in the walls....walls weren't dry when applying and are not dry even now.. The moment I saw you doing those fiberglass walls i knew there will be trouble ahead...

Great video Tom and I hope they sort your fibreglass out 👏👏👍👍

That's brilliant!!!

Loving the end of video rap-up that's been appearing in your latest vids

Osmosis right there. It'll never stick eith the walls being damp. Id doubt they have damp proof layer. Sealed in the moisture snd and it pushing the fibre glass off as it warms up and expands

Looking good 👍

great vid tom love your pic on the computer screen behind you

Keep it up 😊

Always good to save money if you can and it looks like you can that’s great. How is your dad doing?

We've just applied for the grant for a heat recovery system. 60% paid towards it, hopefully we get it 🤞

Hi great video hope you sort the wall out, how s boss man doing? Hope rest of the family are doing well, see you on the next one,

Very interesting video today and that’s a win win that heat recovery system.

When we fibre glassed our parlour we rounded the corners of the blocks first, also rendered blockwork with strong mix 3/1, it stuck to that ok then

That's basically a heat recovery unit which was being used when we milked cows back in the 80's.

Tom superb mate brilliant

Anything that saves money has got to be worth doing, its amazing. how much power it takes to heat water from cold. With your solar panel array, it should also save you money in the winter as well. 👍

How is your dad doing after the back surgery?? Don't let him overdo it! I had my back surgery a couple of years ago and overdid it and paid the price.

Poor workmanship people don't take pride in their trade !!! I hope you can get some of yal money spent on that job !! Good video stay safe

saw you using power tools without hearing protection! take care of your hearing :)

I remember that the ground was very wet ,and watertable gets very high there in wet weather...anyway I wonder if a good damp course was put in at ground level to stop rising damp in blocks. The wall with plywood has not popped maybe because no rising damp. .

@TomPembertonFarmLife

4 ай бұрын

The pit hasn’t blown at all

Reckon the bubbling fibreglass is due to moisture or texture of the blockwork. Usually with a finish the wall needs to be prepared ie skim, lined with ply, CP board, fermacell .etc cutting corners never pays in the end.

Just as a point of interest, a friend of mine has a hot-tub and it costs him £22 from cold to hot, but it only cost £0.66p per day to keep up to temperature. Great video as always thank you

@KevinJD2030

4 ай бұрын

It's a lot less expensive to keep something hot than warming something up. Keeping something constant saves energy for example it takes far less energy to get a heavy cart moving but when it's at speed it takes far less energy to keep it at the desired speed. This goes for everything.

@johnwarwick4105

4 ай бұрын

Tell him to fill it from the hot tap on a slow feed way cheaper to heat with the boiler than electric. Put a bit of cold water in first though.

👍🏼 I dare not comment earnestly on the failure of the fibreglass in your parlour. I hope you're being compensated.

We use the warm water off that tank for mixing calf milk up with, right temperature and the more water you use off it the more efficient it is

Was you not warned about putting fibreglass on the walls ??? ... Mark has got a lot to answer for (Bless him).. Would I recommend Quattro Contracting to install a resin floor ? HELL YES , probably the best floor contractors in the UK (My opinion) . You must drag him back to sort it out , and don't give him any bacon butties...

Just so everyone is up to speed, Tom mentioned below in a comment that the parlour walls were finished on April 21st and fiberglass started on May 23. I would think that a month would be enough time for the walls to cure and remove excess moisture. But I am a novice.

Morning Tom

12:58 great content again

Tom , would it been better to put rolled up tire on brick wall first then put fiber glass on after it. Our neighbors did their parlor that way but left half of the wall black the other fiber glass if ,I remember the top was black the bottom was green and safe guards on the corners to protect it then painted the black white. Wow that brick wall needs to go awesome that is starting to look good Tom. It’s a headache but in the long run keeps birds out and cold weather out . Have you thought of cattle brushes to set on post in pastures so the cattle can brush against it. Love to see the parlor you’re working on all done . Our neighbor has two hot water tanks incase electric goes out have one on back up.

We used resin paint in our parlour brilliant stuff

HI Tom, You got a shout out on Fed by Farmers today👍

@TomPembertonFarmLife

4 ай бұрын

I’ll have to check it out !

So I went back to look at the sisters in wellies on your videos. I can see where some of there walls are fiberglassed however it appears that the parlor itself is lined with 6-8cm block foam. At 23:34 of the video you can see where they are joined buy a tongue and groove method and seem to be already yellow. They come in 4x8' sheets and are probably closed cell foam so they are waterproof. May be something to look at rather than the fiberglass especially since the parlor is a high moisture enviroment. Even on a arid dry wall, fiberglass will pop off of it given the moisture you seem to be having and all it takes is 1 little chip not noticed for 1 week and the moisture is in it. Just a thought. Thanks so much for ALL the videos you put out for all of us. keep me updated on the Ginger Warrior's back and his recuperation. And the best to your misses and boy!!

Good video again as always, I no longer have anything to do with dairy farming but can definitely say from personal experiences gained over the years , from both the dirty end of the cow milking , feeding etc and later in life in the supply trade that fibre glass coating needs to come off and to start again, I do not remember the condition of the brick work pre fibreglass but prep work on the surface is critical. Having seen fibre glass used in many dirty and wet situations in agriculture never mind the obvious boating world where it is used extensively. The company involved must come back remove the coating and start again or simply refund you the 8k so you can start again with a better solution. If it starting bubbling up nine days after the cows moved in then it will give you trouble for as long as the parlour is there. Also the corner strips are purely a shirt term temporary solution as they will not last long . All best to the team and ginger warrior.

Been building fiber glass. Boats seams like they did not roll it properly

And by using the water tank to cool the refrigerant you are saving from having to blow out the Condenser which will save you tons of time. Part of the problem of burning out compressors is dirty condensers. And with the amount of dust on the farm there you would probably have to blow it out or clean it weekly in order to have it working near capacity. Also especially in the summer the heat load given off makes the whole area uncomfortable and makes the compressors work at a much higher temperature. So not only will your electric bill love you for it, your cooling system will also love you for doing it and last much much longer. Thats a Five Cow job 🐮🐮🐮🐮🐮!

Smart move on the water

Need a lot of upper body strength to get out of that bulk tank same happened me I got that heat recovery some job

Great to see your new heat recovery system , also running compressors can cost a fortune try setting compressor pressure to as near to the pressure requirements at point of use and volume requirements this could save a fair bit on running costs ,theres no point running at 160psi when you only need 30psi unless you need high volume even then you can install big storage tanks to get round this for situations and it could save a lot on energy bills

Wow that’s shocking. The company should strip it and start again. I understand that would interrupt your parlour but honestly that is terrible and they need to either correct it or refund as you haven’t got what you paid for.

Oh my on the problem with fiberglass on wall. With not cleaning well ( dust)and any moisture that is held in the brick can do that real fast. Going to be a pain doing it twice. Like measuring twice cut once.

Great vlog again 😊... How's the ginger guy doing ❤

Hi Tom, wall would have needed more time to dry, don’t care what it says on any label of any product, different drying time between blocks and the mortar, was fine on rendered wall because surface dried evenly. I’m no scientist with that said but if I was the resin company that’s what I’d be shouting about. Rush jobs always have these longevity issues no matter what sector you’re in, sign off the times. Place is chilly and damp for lot of the time so you’ll do well to stop that at this stage. Few warmer seasons through it before I’d even bother trying to sort it.

YES! Im first to watch :) Keep up the great work

Your best option is to put pvp panels on the wall and put a vaper barrier between the wall and the pvp panels so moisture doest escape and cause mold on the back of the pvp panels

You've been busy, strange that the fibreglass is breaking so easy.

It is not only the heat from the compressor. The compressor it coling the milk in the storage tank. So the heat from the milk being cooled down is heating op the water for washing. In Denmark vi heat op our home with the heat from the milk

Tom: I have a meeting at 2pm and its now 2:30pm Me:😮 Also, watching from Barbados.

Everyone definitely likes saving money 💰 🤑 💸 🙂

How is dad getting on

@TomPembertonFarmLife

4 ай бұрын

Really well ☺️

what is the fiberglass company thinking? Boats are made of fiberglass and they don't chip and fall apart - many stay in the water for years on in and come out to be waterblastered to get the sea life taken off them so a bit of slurry will not make a difference - bathrooms behind tiles are fiberglass waterproofing and the tiles don'f fall off the wall and the wall does not leak - get them to come and take it off and do it properly at full cost to them - those corners will not last 6 months and it's a patch job on poor workmanship - that fiberglass should have stuck like s!!!t to a blanket

@andrewhead6267

4 ай бұрын

I think the critical thing is the adhesion between the wall surface and the fibreglass. If it’s not perfect you get (in effect) blistering or patched which are not fully adhered. So the fibreglass surface is slightly lifted in patches from the underlying layer. These patches will wear away with any abrasion to the wall. Like a cow rubbing against the corner of the wall.

@Ben-fk9ey

4 ай бұрын

I imagine the main problem is how much time that would take. If it means the parlour couldn't be used for a while then it's probably not an option as I don't think Tom is in a hurry to get parlour on a trailer again any time soon!

@jonathanmormerod

4 ай бұрын

On the contrary. Delamination and osmosis is one of the biggest problems with fibreglass boats. Once there's a tiny scratch in the gelcoat, you're in for an expensive repair bill.

@stuartandrews4344

4 ай бұрын

That fibre glass is a total loss, it was applied too soon after block wall built, too much moisture,needed to dry out then brick/block primed & rendered, have done several koi block ponds & never had a failure.

@IanPritchard

4 ай бұрын

​@@stuartandrews4344 I wonder if the company succumbed to the pressure of being in Toms video and wanting to get the job done on time.

I would say that the block work wasn’t fully dust free, tight external corners will always chip when knocked so the corner protection is a sensible idea though

I thought at the time, fibre glassing onto old brickwork was hopeful, but the corners should have been reinforced! BTW, the goats won't eat fake Christmas trees.. 😂

Moisture seems to have around alot as we were dry Instead and in the south of the states I can have lots of rain , but if we don't get it it looks like it crosses the Atlantic and then you get if. That is true about the water as my son is an electrician and for

@brendadickenson3547

4 ай бұрын

Factories over here ! Save they $$$ when possible!

As frustrating as it is that the fibre glass has blown. Unfortunately as someone who has seen this happen before unfortunately Tom that wall needs to be stripped I can’t imagine the company will be happy as it will be a fair amount of cost to rectify and that cost will land on them how ever it’s how they deal with issue that makes them great. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that they sort it properly as those corners are just a temporary fix not a long term solution. Most importantly how’s your dad doing. Hope the wife and the lad are all good.

Hoping your fibre glass chaps are decent enough to fix the problem, although I must say the prospect doesnt look good: it looks like it needs to be completely redone - and you can't have your parlour out of commission while they do it. Well done on the water heater - and, my favourite bit of your video, giving the goats the christmas tree!

Tom get yourself a couple of tubes of polyurethane glue the ones that go into silicon gun, don’t cut the nozzle just have it on the smallest hole drill some small holes in air pockets and fill up with the glue the glue will stick to the moist blocks and the fibreglass and hopefully stop it coming off the wall. it’s worth a try, it’s worked for us in the past.

@mikeysky8917

4 ай бұрын

Complete waste of time and money

@andrewbeckwith945

4 ай бұрын

@@mikeysky8917 well it’s worked for us in the past on parapet walls for £20 and a hour of his time it’s worth a try but what would I know I’ve only been fitting and fixing GRP roofs for 25 years 🤷🏼

@mikeysky8917

4 ай бұрын

@@andrewbeckwith945 But all his walls will be a mess. The moisture is in and air pockets everywhere.

I would have put Acrovyn Corner Protectors on those broken corners or better, stainless steel. They are used extensively in the Health Industry and generally take a fair bashing from Hospital Trolleys etc so are more then up to the job. The big benefit is they are wider than the angles Luke was fitting. Hate to say it but I suspect what he has fitted wont last 5 minutes and the cows will have them off. Its also only fixed to the fibreglass which is already failing

Shear sign the walls were too damp when they went to apply the fiberglass surface. That must be so frustrating. You see that sometimes in plaster etc.

The fibre glass boys should just do the right thing and either redo the work or at very least full refund but sadly it’s going to have to come off

Clean and hygienic and easy to wash was the plan that certainly isn't that I would say....FULL REFUND or name and shame

Mary from USA.Shame your not selling bricks to allow people and fans to help fund a project.

Hi tom have you seen the solar water heater, and have you thought about a borehole.

If I remember rightly you were rushing about trying to find someone in a rush to get the fibreglass done as you didn’t have it organised. Obviously the company should stand by it. You rushed getting someone and are now paying the price for origination

@Finchy3732

4 ай бұрын

I hope they stand by there work for you

It costs exactly the same to heat the same amount of water through the same range, no matter the range - very simple physics - specific heat capacity. To heat 10 gallons from 5C to 25C costs EXACTLY the same as to heat it from 45C to 65C, assuming you don't have masses of heat loss (the hotter anything is, the quicker it loses heat). If you do have significant heat loss, heating anything to a higher temperature, costs more than heating it to a lower temperature - you lose more heat. No ifs, no buts.

@sampowell6240

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same

Hi, can you adapt your other heater to work off the heat generated by the compressor units in the shop..

That bubbles is caused by efflorescence. . It needs to be stripped off and neutralised . Did you allow 28days for the morter to set ? Is there adequate damp causing to eliminate rising damp ? The list of reason for failure are endless . Good swimming pool render is the best to fibre glass over .

Good to get a brief look at the goats. Any news on kids coming soon? Did Mr billy goat do his job?