NOT A V8 2023 VDJ79 1GD 2.8 4cylinder Automatic 1ST TEST DRIVE Will it eventually tow Bullet truck
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2024 VDJ70series is here in Australia in 2023!!!!! Toyota Landcruiser GXL V8 vs 4cylinder 5 speed manual vs 6 speed auto comparison testing to come 1st impression Test drive of the 2.8 litre GD motor in the 79series 2023 VDJ 79series Automatic 4 cylinder motor and setting it up as a hard core tourer that will be able to tow the race truck around Australia How long before portals will be available Arb says mid 2024 for winch bar need to get a genuine tow bar ASAP for the 3 tonne towing test Has the 79 come too far with safety features lane assist PCS GVM talk Tare weight difference between V8 and 4 cylinder
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I test drove a 76 and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I just got rid of my 2020 troopy to get a 76. Glad I waited for the new models because it’s certainly enough power for me. I don’t tow. I think a lot of people will be surprised about how well they drive, I certainly was.
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
I agree, my opinion before driving it was way different to now, I know you dont have the beautiful rumble, but with the dpf model, you really couldn't get that sound without a dpf delete, against the sound the earlier ones could get..
As a 70 series owner here in Oz there's a uniqie character landcruisers have, there old school and robust. Everyone notices the v8 thong slap as they shift through a country town. You jump inside and welcomed by its 90s era simplicity. I feel the auto 4cyl with its now modern features has just made it like every other car these days....
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
I hear you, the rumble in my pre dpf 79 was so good, heads turned wherever I went, the dpf model has less of a note, obviously trying to stay legal and not doing a delete, and yes now the 2.8.... Im showing my age now!
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
Think global; this isn't true only for Australia. There's a big world out there, far beyond your borders. And people there are all the same, in whichever idols they worship. Your situation isn't unique.
I think the only thing I will miss is the V8 grumble with an after market exhaust, a sound of a VDJ exhasut will always turn my head
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
I hear you and I had that in my pre dpf one, but the white one keeping the dpf in, the rumble is halved.... I can always tell the difference in sounds between the 2..
why they didn't correct the track is absolutely ridiculous
@MegaSkypes
7 ай бұрын
Exactly why are people still buying this bucket of S!!t
@gibbethoskins8621
7 ай бұрын
It's like they're intentionally pushing the boundaries of how gullible Toyota fans are
@thomaswilliam630
7 ай бұрын
It’s not a deal breaker for me
@ligmaballs4874
6 ай бұрын
@@thomaswilliam630it is for me. Disrespectful at this point
@gibbethoskins8621
6 ай бұрын
@@wayne7805 Wheel track, front axle is wider than the rear, so if you drive in sand or mud the vehicle wobbles side to side, also not great for towing, can wobble and puts excess pressure on rear tires and wheels. Friend of mind just lost a rear wheel at 110kph while towing for this very reason.
Love your work. Would be great to see some heavy towing tests. We have rescued a few people off road with Prados towing big trailers who run out of grunt. But as you pointed out this is a slight different motor and if you can turn all the traction aids off it might negate that. Also would be keen to see how much it drinks on a long trip loaded up. But if the block is 100kg lighter that’s an extra 100l of fuel you can carry.
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Yes, next episode I will have more info, fuel figures etc, hoping to get a towbar to hook trailers up ASAP...
Speeding in town!Holding the camera while driving through traffic one handed! Real classy mate.
Great video as always
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Appreciate that, glad you enjoyed, part 2 coming soon....
Nice mate, i picked up a v8 a few days back, the 4cyl will go good i reckon for the most part
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS...This shape? Longevity is what is unknown...
@OutbackOffroadNT
7 ай бұрын
@@TeamBulletOffroad yeah mate this shape 👌
great review mate. Just take something in consideration. Portaled v8s are slow if left the engine std. I know we don't want rocketships but not sure how the 4cyl will cope with the loss. It is 20% loss on the v8s when portals are fitted.
@HardstylePete
7 ай бұрын
An additional 20% loss of power? Won't the portal have an additional reduction gear? So the vehicle is more highly geared.
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Great point yes, im really not sure ill go that way with how long the wait time may be.. Im just excited to get the trailers hooked up to be honest...
This guy holds his camera while driving and then chucks it in Low Range on the road 🫣🤣
@JL.765
6 ай бұрын
And park to put it into low range, what a winner. Can’t believe the support for this clown.
awesome Denny, towing is the issue for me as we tow a 3-5 ton boat with the v8 series 79, not sure how the 2-8 will go long term
@dennydanis5459
7 ай бұрын
I just think the turbo will become a consumable part long term..
@jb243wp
7 ай бұрын
I used to tow my 3.5t + boat with my old factory 79 series 2013 mod.. And it struggled uphill big time. I had to put it in low range to drag the boat out of the ramp.. My 200 series is no problem at all.. Toyota are really stupid and think they haven't thought this through very well at all, they should have put the 300 series 6cyl TT, in it and layed everything to rest.
@simmo6035
7 ай бұрын
I love the V6 but it's still unproven. The 2.8 has been around for nearly 10 years now. Yes, there was some DPF issues initially but since then, it's been a good motor. They want the 70 to maintain that rugged reliable feel. Don't underestimate how many of these will end up on mine sites. Mine sites don't need a TT v6
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Good points there Simmo..
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
@@jb243wpYou know that's a Mazda engine...?? Like the Lexus V8 is Yamaha 😂 .
I've spent too much time in a fortuner. I reckon it's only let down was diff gearing it had. The 70 should do alright
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Yes I love my wife Fortuner too...
I wonder how the gearing would be when fitted with 35’s not a problem with v8 guess will have to wait till owners start modifying them.
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Will have 285s on for next episode, the V8s feel it dont you worry about that, on a stock motor anyway, but I plan to go offroad on the 285s see what the auto is like, plus will have fuel consumption numbers...
Why didn't Toyota go straight to the 550 Nm 1GD motor from the Hilux GR-S? I am guessing the drivetrain (diffs, transfer case, etc) wasn't designed for this much torque.
@user-oe7pr5ww2m
6 ай бұрын
Torque at low speed is worse than 500Nm setting, LC70 is not GR sport, it's a pure work hourse.
Mining industry will love these
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
Yuck 🤮 I would take a 2008 79 with half million kms on it before one of them
@dennydanis5459
7 ай бұрын
Drives so nice.. going to be good off road too I can just tell Give it time I just had chelle follow me home so been looking at it in my rear view mirror for an hour.. let me build it I promise you will change your mind
@haydo5l292
7 ай бұрын
@dennydanis5459 but there no v8 thong slap 👍🏻😂 keen to see new build 😉
@nuggets.6774
7 ай бұрын
Agree. The bonnet and grille, and even the headlights look shit. I was trying to work out what it now resembles, and it's the Mahindra. Not a good look.
@simmo6035
7 ай бұрын
Why?
Seeing the rpm’s rising up to 4k while accelerating to 70km/h doesn’t sit well with me… I still reckon a 6cylinder would have been the smarter choice, especially fully loaded and towing a trailer…
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
I agree re the V6.. Thanks for commenting
Not a fan of the new look, this will probably increase the price of the old model again dam it.
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
I think you could be right..
Interested to find out the fuel savings..... in an on/off road test side by side with a 8 cyl & 4 cyl 🤔.
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Will have some numbers both on stock tyres and the 285s next episode..
Dont pull the trigger on one of these yet gents, the US car market is poo pooing itself and prices are dropping, maybe here they are making hay while the sun shines.
Mate just wondering if the front diff has been corrected now due to smaller engine
@davidazzopardi5799
7 ай бұрын
Nope, still same as before
@dennydanis5459
7 ай бұрын
Yep same same
Is it Full time 4WD like a Prado?
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Part time mate
I mean may as well get the lc 200/300, hilux or Prado then am it right?
@simmo6035
7 ай бұрын
No.
@tempestv8
7 ай бұрын
Or even a Toyota Fortuner which has 1GD & 6 speed gearbox, same as 150 Series Prado and current gen Hilux. And has a slightly higher tow rating of 3100 kg. But still shy of the 3500 kg of this new 70 Series.
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
I need to carry 3 bikes in tray, an adult bike plus a 65 and 85, which I can whilst towing the caravan, so for that there is no other off the shelf option..
I got no qualms with the 4cyl, but can't get past no manual option
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Yes and vice versa, or you dont think the auto option with V8 too far fetched..
@hurelllucieer6225
7 ай бұрын
Auto box is way better in a 4wd.
@kingcrumpet
7 ай бұрын
@@TeamBulletOffroad vice versa for sure. Can't have too many options I don't think. Toyota's bean counters say otherwise though!
@kingcrumpet
7 ай бұрын
@@hurelllucieer6225 my '02 3RZ Hilux disagrees. I get that there are a few situations where you could try to argue that auto is objectively better, but for me it will always be personal preference
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
@@kingcrumpetYour personal preference was disproven by every military on the planet. Just think why that is, but don't think with your heart. Use the right tool.
I have always thought WHY didn't they introduce This engine in the 79 a long time ago. And WHY didn't they introduce the V8 in the 79 a long time ago, years before they did. 😡
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
I hear you.... Hopefully fingers crossed the longevity is successful.. You think back to that 3.0 motor Nissan put in the GU....
You doing your add or vehicle add
Should really have adopted the v6 3.3 motor.
@simmo6035
7 ай бұрын
And make it way more expensive?
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
100% agree
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
Mazda would be smiling; more engine sales.
No difference in diameter with a 285 to a 225/95/16 workmate tyre
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Very true, have to see if the width plays any part in touching... Next episode..
What kind of automatic transmission is it ?
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
6 speed, I believe same as in Hilux Prado and Fortuner, thats as much info as I have on it yet, havnt researched the tranny to date
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
Most likely the same Aisin that serves D-Max, MU-X, BT-50, Prado, Fortuner, Hilux, etc. I suspect Mitsubishi as well. A very reliable, proven unit. Much better than that iffy manual box that whines louder than some here 😂
I like very much but no money
G wagon or this?
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
Geländewagen is vastly superior.
What power lol
Toyota laughs all the way to the bank with this unit
IFS will be next
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Thats a swear word.... Hahaha
Still expensive with the 4cyl.hilux engine!!!
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
I agree..
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
Because fanboys love their worship of idols, so they pay gladly.
Not long ya see toyota will put this engine in a RAV4 or camry
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Hahaha....
? Lot of !
v8
ok..they look fucked now....but I prefer the 2.8 and the auto.... over the shitbox v8.. give it hilux pricing and ill happily buy one.... as it dosent offer as much as a hilux..
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Honestly it drives nicer than the white one, still untouched though the white donk.. As far as your point as what it has to offer, the solid front axle, while it flexes like a burnt bit of toast, its a starting point for a "true" off-roader, the front locker and transfer case shifter high low range stick, these are the sort of things {for me} are the "goodies" no other vehicle off the shelf has to offer in a dual cab..
So basically a hilux on steroids
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Hahahaha.....
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
Which is what the 70 series has been for decades; fanboys didn't notice the scam, too blinded to see.
Hilux engine in Landcruiser will be to underpowered. Some Toyota dealerships have no morals. I know of some that get new stock in , put 100 kms on them then put them in their second hand car lot for over $100 000 to $120 000 depending on what model. Dogs. Toyota can keep their new garbage. I’ll keep my 2002 Landcruiser.
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting mate.
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
Landcruiser was sold from Day 1 til today, with a lazy 4-pot Mercedes-Benz OM314 Unimog engine. It went places, albeit not fast. If you need a rocket, support NASA or Musk.
The one eyed Australian Toyota owner never experienced another brand of vehicle?!
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Yes, guilty...
@t-dog8528
7 ай бұрын
Like Ford vs Holden, they're only convincing themselves. Overpriced garbage and the after sales service from Toyota is disgraceful unless you're a content provider that shows the world how bad toyota really is. For instance a new 300 comes with 1 key but don't lose it its 18 months wait for the 2nd one and don't lose the first because toyota will not prioritise you getting back on the road. Where's the +100k value? I still can't see it.
The 2.8 Landcruiser is a castrated bull so said 😢
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
We then have great success farming with castrated bulls. Some people just don't understand physics, nor math. Smart South Africans 🇿🇦 took to the 2.8 like ducks to water. The V8, underpowered and thirsty, had a cult following. But reason, logic and basic science kill sentiments. Sentiment, like opinion, is cranial flatulence.
@boblee5426
6 ай бұрын
Did you know that the Chinese diesel heater works brilliant out the box live with it for a few years and you realize it's just Chinese shit That's the 2.8 lane cruiser 70 series
It's not a 70 series your driving...It's a Prado/hilux ur driving 😂 LoL
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Dual cab prado... Hahaha
Toyota is honestly just getting lazy… Why not at-least give it the V6 diesel..?
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
I hear you, I do... Thanks for commenting.
@noyota
6 ай бұрын
That V6 turbodiesel isn't without its challenges, one of which is price. They buy it from Mazda, after all. Do Aussies ever t h i n k? Comments here speak of ignorance. Let me exit the room.
I am a Toyota fan but this model doesn't look good at all the front is so ugly.
@TeamBulletOffroad
6 ай бұрын
Lets hope the bulbar options that become available conceal it a bit.. Like clearasil on a pimple. Hahaha
Over priced ,🥴
@TeamBulletOffroad
7 ай бұрын
Maybe.. But so is everything these days, except wages I guess..