This is why we watch your videos Ronny! You put so much effort and money into doing it the right way the first time! That's why you towed on 35's! That money hasn't gone to waste. Just made the video mean much more to the viewers!

Finally a KZread channel that has done a fair comparison, thank you !!!

Chuck 33s on and it's a great economical robust tourer with plenty of GVM/GCM plus solid axles, that's where it beats the Hilux hands down. The 2.8s are way cheaper to setup than a 79 that needs tune, clutch, exhaust etc etc, and you've still got a shit manual box. V8 prices are falling fast and will plummet further in the next few years as fuel prices continue to rise, we're never going back to 1.50 diesel folks. Lots of V8s going up for sale as people realise this, getting out while they can and moving to the 2.8, no brainer. 👍

@ajbro6428

Ай бұрын

Wank on v8 will still be around while ur 4cyl is in the car wreckers yard

Good video mate. Very informative and to the point. I found it interesting how much of a difference the 35's make. And yes ive handled maxxis razr m/ts before and they are a super heavy tyre! Even the wheel balancer has trouble spinning them up

No need to modify any part of the 2.8, its naturally born with balls go the 4. well done on the test Ronny!

It would be awesome to see it tow the offroad tracks. Looks like engine metallurgy has come a long way. It would be a bit sad seeing the V8 go, but such is the times. Loving the content Ronny!

I've never been a fan of the 76 series myself. Always loved the 78 and 79s. This particular 76 looks unreal and I'm abit annoyed at that....😂

Good to see coolant and egts stabilising. Hopefully its the same for intake temperature specially considering they gone to a water to air cooler.

I’m absolutely blown away with the 2.8, defies the laws of physics..

@shuyuanneo2452

2 ай бұрын

Nah the v8 is just rubbish but no one wants to admit it 😅

@chestogaming51

2 ай бұрын

​@@shuyuanneo2452well said

@PaletoB

2 ай бұрын

Also isn't the V8 like two decades old technology at this point? 😅

@mikldude9376

2 ай бұрын

@@shuyuanneo2452looks can be deceiving mate , it remains to be seen how the the 2.8 will go for longevity. And Its not always about power or economy for that matter , personally I’d rather have a large lazy under stressed motor that will probably last for 20 years if looked after than a highly stressed Small motor that last goes half the distance. And I’m not saying that will be that case , but it is early yet. And if you have a little bit less power , it’s not the end of the world to lose a bit of road speed and drop it back a cog . And in my experience towing , I have found it can pay to tow in direct rather than over drive , as overdrive can load the motor up more and suck more fuel , it’s probably better for the transmission as well to tow in direct gear.

@brownhairydog6472

2 ай бұрын

Actually it embraces the laws of physics. Better metallurgy, fuel and air flow, reduced friction, better combustion. It's really a story of newish tech vs 30 year old.

Id prefer the test done on 33s 🤙love the content mate

Always nice to see a nissan in its natural environment😂 bogged to the gills.

@Jyden_Carmody

2 ай бұрын

Haha, beat me to it mate! 👍

This tow test is a real test well done mate. Anyone who has towed north to shark bay Exmouth etc know all too well the poor fuel consumption experienced compared to say a loop down south west for the same distance. I’ll bet your 79 would have chewed it just as much if not more. 👍

Definatley agree 35s are stupid for towing unless they're on a yank tank with the grunt to do it, but it's still impressive what the 76 did towing that sort of weight on 35s. If you could replicate those conditions and rerun the test with 33s it would be interesting how much less fuel it would use.

@emu4wdadventures631

2 ай бұрын

It needs to be re-geared to get the best out of it.

Great video guys, well put together 👍

Oh Man 🤠 I love it on 35's 👍 I could look to it 24/7 ❤️‍🔥 Thank you for that Ronny 💯

Hey Ronny, really enjoyed that vid.......great stuff!!

respect, nice one ronny

Done Australia in 4.5 twin turbo, beautiful, didn't miss a beat, hills were never a problem, great car, no toyota sponsor here, the fuel you use depends on your foot and wind

Thanks for a great test. Fatter heavier tyres cost you heaps on fuel. Just for comparison my 2019 VDJ78 on stock 33" skinny tyres gets 16-19 L/100 towing a similar size caravan - higher consumption is with strong headwinds.

Congrats on half a mil mate!

Great video, i love my v8. The 2.8 is great! I've had two Hilux's with the 2.8, one was auto, the other was manual which i much preferred. V8 for me though...

@t0msie

2 ай бұрын

Love your videos mate

Temps are good Ronny 👍 In my 2020 Hilux 4x4. ExtraCab around town I get 86-88c in the middle of summer in Qld . Towing my 2.8t caravan in summer towing up hills it gets to 100c and I have a Transcooler as well. So the temps you are seeing are pretty good . 👍

@motorsportfreak1

2 ай бұрын

It makes sense. The 2.8 in the 70 has a larger oil capacity sump made out of steel as opposed to alloy, redesigned oil pick up, larger radiator and fan, balance shaft, isolation crank pulley and the water to air intercooler. The gearbox also has a larger capacity steel pan and elevated breather with catch can.

@bobperrett728

2 ай бұрын

That’s the Difference 👍 I have just Cancelled my v8 and have ordered the New 2.8 easy choice after Driving both. 😂

@motorsportfreak1

2 ай бұрын

@@bobperrett728 also Toyota have changed the diff ratios compared to Hilux, Prado and V8. The good news is that the 2.8 still runs the V8 transfer case, drive shafts and diffs 👌🏽. So all larger and stronger.

@mitchell5064

2 ай бұрын

@@motorsportfreak1 hopefully they've fixed the timing chain issues

@motorsportfreak1

2 ай бұрын

@@mitchell5064 they did years ago and that was actual rare. If anyone thinks that Toyota with their R&D $ and Engineers would just put a Hilux motor in the Landcruiser and call it a day, are silly. Toyota engineers were driving around in Australia testing for two years prior, hence the numerous changes done to the engine and gearbox.

Another great video, I've been keeping my eye on this series since you tested drove the auto. My mains concern has always been the heat, longevity and the price of the auto. Hard to justify the live axel and rugged 70 look over the much much cheaper Hilux.

The trans temp looked ok

Love your work Ronny, yep agree the 2.8 is the smart and sensible choice without a doubt. However for some stupid reason the V8 put a silly smile on my face.

Another good video Ronny. 35s for towing? Not a good idea from my perspective - 33s are ideal. I had a 150 Prado with the 2.8L engine towing a Patriot X1 Camper Trailer. It performed beautifully, but found that the transmission oil got pretty hot, especially on soft surfaces.. I found that the addition of a transmission cooler in addition to the factory radiator cooler (not a big investment) did the job and made me much happier about the life of the auto box. Something for you to consider in the 79?

@motorsportfreak1

2 ай бұрын

Don’t need to on the 70 2.8. Toyota has increased the oil capacity with a larger transmission pan.

I recon the 76 with 33” tires and a patriot camper or similar would be a wicked family setup.

@michaelhermans4753

2 ай бұрын

The fuel consumption will be way lower. Most caravan owners plan their trips around the wind forecast Fuel prices will be going up a lot in the next few years, the v8 owners will be paying thru their nose for their love affair

Nice one ronnie

Looks like a BEAST in 35"...Can't wait for the 33" with a camper trailer. My kind of setup.

Awesome vehicle, Checked one out last weekend at John Hughes, $106km.. Ill keep the Prado

Love the armrest. Is this a "universal fit" or specific to the door/windows only on the Toyo's?? Inquiring minds want to know as we cannot get anything to match those over here in the US.. At least not that I've found so far researching for the Colorado (Somewhat of a Holden clone).. FYI I am also towing a camper trailer with the 2.8 Duramax (tuned) onn 33's, and while it does pull a combined weight of @ 11500lbs (@5200 kg) I average about 16.8 Liters per 100km (14 mpg). 7 and 8 percent grades can get things "warm". Transmission temps easily reach 230 on the longer climbs with an OAT of 68 F / 20 C. Above that things get interesting with the temps particularly at altitudes of 7000' - 8000' feet. Appreciate your site.. Some good stuff for sure..

Cheers Ronny, great vid, the 76 is proving to be a really smart choice, it will be interesting to test the duration/quality of the new motor and auto, but that will of course require time/patients!

Gracias. 👏👏👏

Had a chipped 79 & loved it. Now got a 2022 Hilux & very impressed....it exceeds my expectations immensely. The 2.8 auto in that solid front axle 76 sounds like the perfect heavy duty off-road tourer. Wish they'd been out when I got the Lux.

@dancohen258

2 ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂

Fantastic comparison, definitely interested to see how it tows and the fuel economy on 33's. Love the look of the wrap too

I honestly didn’t think the 35’s would make that much of a difference. Strike that tyre off my list.

@HardstylePete

2 ай бұрын

The 4c has a much more narrow torque band. The 35 inch tyres push drop the RPMs enough for the vehicle to need to change down a gear, moving into much less efficient RPM range. Ideally, you'd re-gear the vehicle if 35 inch tyres was a necessity.

@barcrusher

2 ай бұрын

It does make a big difference on most vehicles.The difference with this is purely because of the auto box ratios

@RobertsAdventure

2 ай бұрын

​@@barcrusher You're not wrong but same problem with the high gears and 35s for the equivalent vehicle with a stock manual.

@HardstylePete

2 ай бұрын

@@barcrusher In terms on the impact to rpms. It will be the same regardless of the vehicle however not for the engine torque band. The smaller the displacement motor, the narrower the torque band. Trucks and heavy machinery will always select larger displacement engines that can operate with the required energy output at low rpm as it's more thermally efficient. Therefore less fuel.

@cyclemoto8744

2 ай бұрын

@@HardstylePete larger displacement yes but more cylinders no

Kind of a throwback for me the iconic 70 series going to an in-line piston block instead of the V8. I would’ve love a motor made specifically for this vehicle if I were to get one like a 6 cylinder instead of 4 but hey it goes well and it is what it is. Love the work Ronny!

The Caravan suits you well, Ronny 😅😂 👍

The 2.8 is looking like a good engine.

@JackFN_VR64

2 ай бұрын

its easy to get power out of an engine. take a 1998 nissan 4 cylinder 2lt, slap a turbo and big injectors on it and it makes 450hp. However reliability and durability is a different story. the 2.8 might make good power, but its working harder and is much more stressed than the V8...

@barcrusher

2 ай бұрын

It’s the auto box design that makes it work so well

@jwoods6585

2 ай бұрын

Its the gearbox doing the heavy lifting​@JackFN_VR64

@Agent.K.

2 ай бұрын

It has been tested for a long time in other toyotas...

@jarradblair1793

2 ай бұрын

Shame it's getting thrown in the soon. The half assed hilux hybrid is out now, next iteration will be full hybrid, like the camry, petrol engine with a big generator and full electric drive line.

87 is normal operating temps anyway, so 95 while on 35s and towing isnt bad at all

My 78 series V8 without caravan 13 L per 100km With caravan 21 L per 100k My 76 series V8 Without trailer 1.5 L per 100km With car trailer 13 L per 100 km With camper trailer 14L per 100km Standard 265/75/R16 Cooper ST tyres on both. loaned new 2.8L 76 series Without trailer 12.6L per 100km On hilly terrain, no trailer, 18L per 100km. None of these vehicles have been chipped or tuned from factory ordinal. I’ll keep my V8’s.

@mikldude9376

2 ай бұрын

I would keep the V8 too mate , A nice big V8 under stressed engine , with smooth power delivery . People seem to get sucked in by a higher tuned small engine that does make decent power , but there’s always question marks in how they will age , and small engines do work harder , and there’s no guarantee as shown in the test that under load they won’t be more thirsty..

@malcolmL995

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@mikldude9376yes. I’ve been saying that for a while on other shorts. The real test will be to come back in 4 or 5 years and have the discussion about how successful it was rather than how successful it will be. I know that people shoot me down by saying it’s a proven Hilux motor, but it’s still different if only just starting with the intercooler. The 4WD 24/7 boys have done a video on this subject and the guy who did the tune replaced injectors and intercooler radiator to get the max power out of the 2.8L. They unfortunately made a few errors. Maybe they didn’t review their video in a rush to get it posted? Ronnie said his 2.8L was running hotter at times than previously. The 2000km run he did is “predominantly” flat and I wonder what the temp/fuel economy etc would be on hillier terrain, like maybe Adelaide to Alice Springs? Which is predominantly uphill most of the way. There were a number of other things I didn’t like that have changed. Seat higher to see over the higher bonnet. Front seats further back which cuts the rear passenger leg room in half. Higher rear seats to take into account the higher front seats. Higher front guards to accomodate the higher bonnet to name only a couple.

@dousty

Ай бұрын

@@malcolmL995 I'll stick with my V8 76 but being able to move the seat a couple of clicks further backward would be bloody awesome!

@malcolmL995

Ай бұрын

@@doustyyes, I’d agree with that. Mind you I always seem to have more teem in the Troopy, I wonder if it’s seat is slightly further back. Must measure it sometime.

Running 33 would be interesting Ronny

Just did 3,000km down in the South West with 200 series (3.4T) and 3.2T van on 33". Averaged 24L/100km

@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing

2 ай бұрын

oh my God that's terrible

beautiful land cruiser

Thats pretty impressive Ronny. I run a patrol with a 6.5 chev & 33" tyres & tow a similar size caravan & get 24-25L/100 towing it.

@ZiggyWolf-Jinx

2 ай бұрын

We all make mistakes assembling our 'version ' of a rig. You'll get better at it. 😉

@flysoutbackadventures

2 ай бұрын

@@ZiggyWolf-Jinx It's worth the price of fuel to listen to the glorious sound of a V8 especially when its under load 😁. But on a more serious note. I'd love to know how well the 2.8 ltre 4cyl lasts when towing a 3.2 ton van every day as I do. I went thru 2, yes 2, 3.0 ltre diesels ( admittedly the crappy ZD30 ) b4 I switched to the big chev.

@HardstylePete

2 ай бұрын

Which gearbox? What year chev? Diesel?

@flysoutbackadventures

2 ай бұрын

​@@HardstylePeteThe gearbox is the factory 5 speed Nissan manual ( would accelerate quicker if it was an auto ). Engine is the 6500 Optimisor turbo diesel from GEP/AMG. This is the military spec engine.

Good reviews again mate. Only thing ill ask is you reckon fuel was crazy as you had the power to push at 100 most way home? If you settled down and cruised to condition's it would be better?

Great work Ronny, thanks. Noticed your transmission temp on the dash. Looked very acceptable. Are you running an after market Trans. cooler. My Prado runs a lot hotter than that when towing, no added cooler. Regards.

If you really want to use 33's Ronny, 295/70r17 are a true 33×11.50 tyre.

Thanks for the vids.. How's the comfort in the back for the kids? Cheers.

I wish they sold this style of Landcruiser here in the USA

Haven't watched yet but once the 2.8 wins I'm looking forward to all the "yeah but it won't last as long" comments 🍿

@glenwillson5073

2 ай бұрын

Legit question though - no?

@TORTLESSS

2 ай бұрын

@@glenwillson5073 toyota uses the same engine in a 25 seater minibus

@petrolmachines2617

2 ай бұрын

And it won’t last as long

@PP-bm7zp

2 ай бұрын

1GD has been around since 2016 in Australia. Very reliable motor with many high kms around.

@martinarthur8928

2 ай бұрын

​@@TORTLESSS its the 6cylinder inline 6 not 4

Hey Ronny, love the channel, great content thank you! 🙏 Can I ask: as far as I can tell you haven’t mentioned the ANCAP rating on the 79/76 series but like me do have kids. What’s your take on the rating? How do you think about it? (Not legal advice yadda). Thank you!

Did I miss the overall weight comparison? The V8 has the bullbar, winch etc on where the 2.8 does not. It would be interesting to get both on the scale. Great video again, thanks for spending the coin to tow on 35 mate.

@tomluzaic9628

2 ай бұрын

The V8 was tuned though. If the 76 had a Tune with all that weight added to it, it would probably be slightly more efficient

@unna1996

2 ай бұрын

Go watch the video from car experts where both car have same weight and tyres size ..

Hi Ronny Dahl,great work,I follow you from Angola in Africa,you always produce a very good content,but what I want to see if you can compare to a V8 with a Auto gearbox how the test will be,we all know that the Auto gearbox have a advantage to a Manual gerabox. Keep the good work.Marcio Ramos

@Ktmfan450

2 ай бұрын

V8 autos are common enough

Some of these keyboard warriors need to learn we spell tyres like this in Australia 😅

@Baylin99

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@Dan-rg7jj

2 ай бұрын

Tires

@stevenloynds3691

2 ай бұрын

Year it tires ya out 😂

@nguont

2 ай бұрын

@@stevenloynds3691it can get very “tiring”

@stevecam724

2 ай бұрын

Don't be a simp, tiers/tyres who gives a f=ck except preschool teachers

My 1hzfte used way more fuel towing on stock tyres in those conditions.

4WD24/7 just did a dyno and tune up on two 79series and the 2.8 had more power both times without having to have an expensive clutch upgrade

@dh2919

2 ай бұрын

Whats funnier is after they tuned the v8, they admitted it made less power than the factory 2.8 😂

@MrHarey31

2 ай бұрын

@@dh2919 Wrong, tuned v8 made 192hp and the factory 2.8 made 160hp. Factory the 2.8 made 160hp and the V8 made 140hp. Tuned the 2.8 made 204hp and the V8 made 192hp.

@brokenboy3762

2 ай бұрын

V8 has way more room tune! Tune the 4 more and kaboooomy

@ianweal3081

2 ай бұрын

The V8 boys always said the V8 would tune up better than the 2.8, well 24/7 dispelled that myth too, ha! The 2.8 could be enhanced even further, it was limited by the water intercooler exchange unit which would need to be upgrade. Still be less than upgraded clutch in V8 I suspect and then the V8 would never ever match the 2.8 4 pot. Notice how all the V8 boys have gone quite. It's just like Nissan with the 3L 4 cylinder over the 4.2 6, cylinder, the ZD30 CRC shits all over the 4.2 TD. Nissan even stopped quoting power & torque of 4.2 TD as it was so embarrassing compared to 3L. I've owned the 4.2 TD, gutless kettle it was, then the 4.5 VDJ 76 which we learned to despise, now a ZD30 CRC GU and it's by far the pick of them. I suspect the 2.8 is better again, but not parting with my ZD30 for anything less than a Defender, the ultimate tourer, tow vehicle & off roaders IMO.

@michaelhermans4753

2 ай бұрын

@@ianweal3081yes the v8 fan boys have gone very quiet, they will get even quieter when fuel cost go up later this year

Thanks Ronny you've just cost me a whole lot of money.

@deceptikhon

2 ай бұрын

you only live once!

Man I wish this vehicle was sold in the USA with that engine! It would be nice to see the difference when you regear to the tire size. Is the V8 regeared? Regearing is pretty important when putting on large tires.

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Great video Ronnie, The old dinosaur not to bad after all. The 4 banger still a great motor it’s the v8 for me though sorry. Your old duel cab must have 500 plus ks I’m guessing.

Makes me think 33s are a good compromise for fuel usage and towing.

Just got back from 1000 km road trip with my gx470 (Prado 120) fully stock pulling a popup trailer that weighed around 1.6 Tonne with stock size AT tires and averaged about 13.8 mpg 17 Liters/100). Gas engine life. Having the ability to pass at 90 mph and cruise at 70-80 mph is nice, but the tiny tank and terrible economy is a pain. Wish we got the 2.8 here. I would happily take the power loss for better range and economy. 193kw and 450 nm with the 4.7 V8. I guess it better than trying to tow the same trailer with the 80 series. The fuel economy is about the same, but there isn't any power.

@rawnature8148

2 ай бұрын

120's in Australia come with 180 litre tanks, roughly double what you have.

@PatrickRich

2 ай бұрын

@@rawnature8148 the bigger tank would help too.

@toyotadiesel4970

2 ай бұрын

Add a bigger custom fuel tank, problem solved.

Now settle in to 93-98kph towing on 33's and use ONLY S4 manual mode and fuel economy will improve I suspect (engine around 2400rpm). My tuned 2.8l Hilux at 3400kg (GVM upgrade at 3485) towing 2.5t AOR van, so likely heavier than your 76, travels from NSW to WA and back via Nullabor and many desert tracks return to achieve 13.8L per 100km. Also many of these Aisin autos are stuffed towing in D and it tends to sit on the torque converter more often over heating it, just dont do it. Quite a few 4WD's use this same gearbox and its generally bulletproof but will fail after prolonged use heavy towing in D. Also its a 'no brainer' as my Hilux fuel economy is worse (15-16L per 100km) towing in D (I tested this over a tank of fuel) as the Aisin gearbox in Toyota tune will allow the engine to labour somewhat in D.

@HardstylePete

2 ай бұрын

Did you install an automatic transmission cooler? Or a gauge to monitor temperatures? Keeping the atf on the cooler side will make a massive difference for reliability.

@petermills1402

2 ай бұрын

@@HardstylePete both Pete, the trans temps are not ridiculously low but never seem to go horribly high with the after market trans cooler. The older scangauge has an Xgauge function which has a programmable function for Hilux Torque converter temp as well as auto box oil temps, works well.

you guys should monitor trans and diff temp when towing.

Hi Ronnie, Another great video. What brand of towing mirrors did you use and how are the when fitted to the standed mirrors? Stay Safe

Would you consider a Ram 1500 limited for the big lap of Aus? I'm looking at a 2023 version with stand inclusions and I just can't get past the comfort, "out of the box accessories" and towing prowess.

It's funny how the 2.8 was maligned by many while it was Prado/Hilux engine, and now it's suddenly good :- )

@Agent.K.

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, and some are acting surprised 😂

Where’s Torbs….😂😂😂 Like what you did there.

@motorsportfreak1

2 ай бұрын

Yeah live Torbs big aftermarket bolt on Turbo 👌🏽

Oh the 2.8 show

The real test is time! And 100s of thousands of kms.

10mpg is not to shabby 👏👏👏

Great video. These 2.8 are already becoming very popular here in NZ. I still wish the auto was available from the 200series for the V8 from factory. NZ just better suited to auto transmission

very interesting results, after tuning the 76 it will probably be better even then again!

@motorsportfreak1

2 ай бұрын

Have a look at 4wd 24/7 they just did a tune on both the latest V8 and 2.8.

@dancohen258

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

I must say I'm quite impressed with the LC 76 with the 2.8L...... I'd prefer it in this application with no tune🔥🔥

That stealth wrap looks mad. Got a quote for a one, $9k 😂😂

@markedwards129

2 ай бұрын

That’s probably 3 resprays hey. What a waste of money

How much does the van weigh ?

But given that drag is exponential with air resitsnce, a pr7dent man would slow to 85kmh and burn 15L/100km and also not destroy his motor and gearbox at a rapid pace. 25L per hour fuel flow rate means your power demand was 125hp which is well above half of peak so duty cycle rating of engines would mean significant wear rate

Imagine regearing these trucks. Holy shit.

What you should have done is matched the payload of the 79 on the 76 4 cylinder then done the trip.

Are the people defending the V8 for testing with bigger tires now going to defend the 2.8 for using a stock tune?

Ronny, upgrade the inter cooler matrix add +30 injectors and retune the ECU. Just like the V8. Then test again. Enjoy,

Did the 2.8 overheat in anyway in any of your major inclines?

My serious concern is the longevity of both the engine and the transmission and how many oil / service intervals will be required towing a caravan Australia. The boost alone set standard on this engine is scarily high for longevity. ( without some serious short/ intermediate oil changes ) let alone.one the gumming up of the vanes in the VGT- I truely would to have loved to see what the ET’s where . simply put only time will tell.

So when are you gonna tune the 2.8

Have a look into the flex lockup torque converter and you will have an answer to a lot of your questions.

What was the device on your windshield that gave you all the readings ? Make/model ?

@Tom-lf8hx

2 ай бұрын

Its a "scan gauge" OBD2 reader, depending on the year of your 4wd is if it will work, it doesnt on my 2005 1kd hilux as i did msg them, plus EGT temps would be post turbo you want pre turbo

@shalininaicker

2 ай бұрын

@@Tom-lf8hx Thanks.

Just also shows the Y62 patrol fuel consumption while towing is great though a 5.6l V8 petrol

The v8 landcruiser 79/200 series is just a thing. It may not be the most efficient/best/fuel efficient/best car, but it’s thing in oz anyway. You don’t seem to get it, even though you have a great 79. I think you’ll regret it, buts let see how the 4 cylinder goes, def won’t be any looks from admirers.

Hi Ronny, can you fit a dual battery under the hood of the 4 cylinder? It looks even more crowded than the 8. Cheers

(Before I Watch the Video) I Wonder If the Shape of the Vehicles (One Being a StationWagon the Other a Ute) if there would be a Difference in the AeroDynamic Drag.......... On Another KZread Channel, they did a DynoTest of the Two and at the 18 Minute Mark of the Other Very Popular KZread Channel's Video they show a Screen in the BackGround with the Comparisons (after tuning (Would have Liked to see the PreTune Results)) that Clearly Shows (No Mention of this was made) That the V8 Starts to Produce it Power and Torque at Lower Revs than the 2.8L. (I think this is a Significant Difference)

@angelotsi849

2 ай бұрын

The 2.8 has an auto which compensates for this. The 4.5 with an auto would be ideal but that's an extra $24k to do the conversion.

@mikldude9376

2 ай бұрын

Yep , people forget about power delivery , they think having horse power and power delivery like a sports car is a good thing , looks good on paper , not always good for towing or longevity or economy.

6 cylinder 200kw diesel would be the better option, but toyota give customers what toyata feel like. i appreciated the genuine fuel consumption figures i met a guy in a caravan park 8 hours west of brisbane, he had a 200 series with a van doing 25L/100Km, he wanted to offload the car asap, he thought the high figures meant there was something wrong with the car

@mikldude9376

2 ай бұрын

It’s not always the car mate , some people don’t know how to tow/drive , or how to set the gear up .

That's only 10.2mpg here in the USA... that's terrible. But, with 35s....... I'm shocked. Thats not bad

Try not to annoy as many people here but do you think a defender D300 on 35 could tow better & better fuel efficienty in return? Thanks for all the effort into this series of videos.

How hot is the transmission in the auto?😊

hey Ronny what brand if gauge is on the windsreen thanks mate

What about adding all the accessories on the 79 to the 76 and then do the test again ?

Well from doing a conversion for the Metrically Challenged here in the states, this came out to 10.27 Miles Per Gallon. If you ask me it will most likely get worse if you keep the 35's and start adding more weight to the 76. I say go back to the 33's and things will improve. This is simply one of the downsides with a 4 cylinder turbo doing towing. They can do alright, but there is a limit

@ailo4x4

2 ай бұрын

As a Metrically Challenged American in the UK, your 10.27 mpg is 12.3 mpg UK. Drives.me.crazy! ;-) We buy fuel here in litres but drive in miles and do fuel milage in UK gallons (1 US gal = 1.2 UK gal) Don't ask why, it's complicated ;-) Btw, I have a 3L BMW M54 6 cyl petrol engine in my LR Defender and got 10.8 US mpg over 5K miles down to Tunisia, across the Sahara, and back. I'm in the process of swapping the gas engine for the M57 6cyl diesel out of my 530D which gets 29.5 US mpg in town and way more on the motorway!

22+ liters doing highway towing with a caravan at 90-100km is crazy. It's a freaking diesel. I'd scrap my old Ram with those numbers.

@JackFN_VR64

2 ай бұрын

just goes to show how hard that motor is working....

@mikldude9376

2 ай бұрын

Some of it is the gearing mate , big tyres will not be doing it any favors at all , and I suspect locking out of over drive would have made a difference to the consumption in a good way too.

have my doubts on the longevity of the four cyl ,works harder revs more and the auto we will see