north is basically a British accent but Chinese

@ghxsty_

Жыл бұрын

more like australian or even american with the ‘r’ sound

@Dqrk1700

Жыл бұрын

Funny enough, My family roots actually go fron Inner Mongolia and Shenyang (so the North) and I was born in Sheffield (Also the North) Great Britain 😅

@stlouisix3

Жыл бұрын

@@Dqrk1700 I know people with the same combination of Chinese roots!!!

@Dqrk1700

Жыл бұрын

@@Kataru210 No, Sheffield is on the central-north portion of the North-South divide

@DennisSullivan-om3oo

Жыл бұрын

I would have thought the opposite because of British English in Hong Kong.

So Duolingo has been teaching me the Northern accent with all the ers at the end.

@cynthiacarmona3086

5 ай бұрын

Same Sad I THOUGHT I WAS LEARNING CANTONESE

@tashaonly

5 ай бұрын

@@cynthiacarmona3086 Eeek. Shouldn't the language setting say Cantonese instead of Mandarin?!!

@cynthiacarmona3086

5 ай бұрын

@@tashaonly thb idk i googled it when I was first starting out and it said Cantonese, but NOW when I go to the Chinese page on duolingo it says Chinese Mandarin and so I looked it up on google AGAIN and it said it offered both but I looked everywhere on the app and I couldn’t find Cantonese ANYWHERE. ?????!!!!!!

@cynthiacarmona3086

4 ай бұрын

@@tashaonly I mean… I googled it when I first started out and it said Cantonese… but now when I look at the official page it says mandarin. So I looked it up AGAIN and it said it offers both.

@Nn.65juk

3 ай бұрын

​@@tashaonly I want to travel to china...... I like kunnming and guangxi i would like to study in those provinces.

the girl from Beijing is speaking Beijing dialect but the girl from Fujian is just speaking standard putonghua, without any "southern accent". There are naturally many different "southern accents" not one. Someone whose mother tongue is Shanghainese would have a different accent than someone whose first language is Cantonese. If one really wants to get an idea of the Mandarin accent of those who speak Min languages (the Sinitic languages spoken in Fujian), they can just listen to Taiwanese mandarin. It's similar.

@SarahElisabethJoyal

3 ай бұрын

I used to live in Taipei and when I put on the accent for my northern students they tell me they can't understand a thing 😂

@YummYakitori

3 ай бұрын

Indeed as a Singaporean of Min Nan descent (similar to Taiwanese) I do actually find our accents when speaking Mandarin to be closer. In comparison the “Fujian” girl in the video has a very standard Putonghua accent that is not typical for Fujianese at all, though to be fair I think Taiwanese and Singaporean Mandarin accents developed as a result of us learning from our predominantly Hokkien/Min Nan speaking parents and grandparents trying to speak Mandarin, whereas nowadays in China the Standard Putonghua accent is much more pervasive and it is increasingly common to find younger people in southern China who speak Putonghua without a “southern accent” at all. I think what’s very typically Fujian would be the softening of “zh”, “ch”, “sh” consonant and sometimes it even sounds similar to “z”, “c”, “s”. 有事 youshi may be pronounced yousi and 出门 chumen may be pronounced cumen

@worldtravel101

2 ай бұрын

You don't sound like most fujian people I've met

@waynepolo6193

2 ай бұрын

I love deeply informative comments like this.

@pablomao6279

2 ай бұрын

Being a chinese I agree❤

Wow! the chinese northern accent sounds "angry" like the spanish north mexican accent 😂😂😂

@IDKwhattoputhere35

7 ай бұрын

Yes, people use erization when they are angry. Even people from the south.

@user-yi4yg4bz4x

5 ай бұрын

maybe they are just always angry ..haha

@HeChuanVincent

4 ай бұрын

TRUE dude, I was born in the north of China, but grew up in the south. When I use north accent, it sounds very rough and bold, but when I speak Mandarin, it is close to the softness of the south accent.

@m.l7011

4 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@HeChuanVincent Mandarin is Northern dialect, how could it get close to the southern accent?

@Qresmaidapa

3 ай бұрын

@@m.l7011 North - British accent South - American accent

I teach English to Chinese students, and I witnessed this phenomenon when a student was writing a sentence in English. He forgot the period at the end. I told the student, "You missed something." Immediately four of his classmates yelled "Dian, dian, dian!" Another ousted herself with her response, "Dianr, dianr, dianr!" The other classmates and I were amused. It is a cute accent.

Hushou..i only heard that word in cdrama 😂😂

Beijing has even more of an errrrrrhua sound than most of the Northern regions though

@pizzacatred-velvet9952

Ай бұрын

yeah i could kinda tell with the northern girl that she pronounced "hu shuo" how ppl from beijing do

I met a woman from China a few years ago. I speak some Mandarin, so I thought maybe I could chat with her a little. I asked her where she was from. She said, "I'm from Hujian province." I was so confused. Hujian? There's no province called Hujian! Finally I figured it out. She was from Fujian - but in southern China and Taiwan, a lot of people have a very soft accent, so the "F" sounds like an "H". There are so many dialects and accents in China that learning "standard" Mandarin in a class or from books and language software (like I did) gets you only maybe 20% of the way to actually understanding real, everyday Chinese the way it's actually spoken.

@kaohsiung99

4 ай бұрын

My FIL is from China. MIL is from Taiwan. The point you made in your post reminded me of how confused I was about the 'f' vs. 'h' sounds at the beginning of words. It took me the second half of the 1990s's to figure out what was going on with that!!!!!!!

@James51879

2 ай бұрын

Your concern is mostly valid with late middle aged and senior people. Standard Mandarin has been an essential part of the 9-year compulsory education in China since 1986. Anyone born after 1980 should at least have some basic grasp of Standard Mandarin, if they went to school.

@leedonghae435

Ай бұрын

Yes that’s funny , some even joke that’s why fujianese can’t talk to Cantonese people because Cantonese has more ‘f’ sounds while fujianese (or Hokkien) does not contain any ‘f’ sound 😢

Occasionally, I can hear the difference when I hear nearby college students speaking with each other. "er" sound, I suspect they are northern.

@MagicalKid

7 ай бұрын

You can tell even from the quality of their voices. Northern Chinese speak from their diaphragms, like an opera singer, whereas Southerners speak just from their throats.

@m.l7011

4 ай бұрын

Southern parts like Sichuan and Chongqing use “er” sound a lot too.

@cblyouhavetorun

22 күн бұрын

@@m.l7011 Most of the residents of Yunnan Guizhou and Sichuan migrated from the north in the early years, so their pronunciation is close to the northern dialect.

@m.l7011

22 күн бұрын

@@cblyouhavetorun 并不是。中国有句话叫湖广填四川，四川由于战乱丧失了大部分古蜀人口，现在的四川人大部分是湖南江西移民，而不是北方人。云南和贵州更不用说了，基因测序也都是南方血统。中国南方省份，含较多北方血统的是江苏和浙江北部。

The Fujian women look like northerners. The northern girl looks like a Southerner.

Please note, this is slight differences within standard Mandarin. It is not northern or southern chinese languages or dialects.

@halnicholas3791

Ай бұрын

Yes

The "southern" accent here is basically formal Mandarin while the Beijing girl is showing some regionalism. Fujian people didn't speak Mandarin until about 50 years ago.

@qwmx

3 ай бұрын

I suspect that. It's nice to know that "true" mandarin didn't have the "r" accent and I was more likely learning the "correct" mandarin.

@appa609

2 ай бұрын

@@qwmxWhat you mean by "true mandarin" is what Chinese people call 普通话 or "Common Chinese" and it's basically a standardized upper class Beijing dialect. The Beijing girl is speaking a more working class Beijing dialect.

@GavinLiuranium

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. “Southern accent” here is referring to speaking Mandarin 普通话 with a southern accent; speaking their own dialect/language would be a different comparison altogether

@ChaohsiangChen

Ай бұрын

Standard Chinese wasn't invented until about 100 years ago. It is an adaptation of northern Chinese laguages in a way similar to how Hoch Deutche was formalized. IMHO, it was a travesty done by the pseudo intellectuals of early 20th century. Should have adopted Cantonese as national langage.

@DigitalAlligator

Ай бұрын

Not exactly. Even when the Fujian girl speak mandarin, you can still tell "Southern accent". By the way, Fujian and Taiwan are very close to each other, therefore, their accent is almost identical

This isnt reallt accurate as the girl sspeaking southern accent is just speaking standard mandarin, whereas the girl with the nothern accent is speaking a northern dialect in an informal matter, while it is interesting to see the difference between the two it might be misleading to compare them like this😅

@prasanth2601

4 ай бұрын

Is that so?

@halnicholas3791

Ай бұрын

Right, Fujian girl just speaking plain vanilla Standard Chinese. In a real southern accent all the retroflex sounds (sh, zh, ch, r) just disappear.

I like the southern accent better

Being Chinese myself but living in Canada, the Northern Chinese accent is like French from Quebec compared to the one of Metropolitan France.

I prefer the sound of the southern accent, but I might be biased, as I'm learning Taiwanese Mandarin at the moment. 💁🏿‍♂️

@fruit4423

5 ай бұрын

我是北方人，我也喜欢南方口音，特别是女生的，台湾女生口音是出名的甜，北方口音就很狂野。😂

@saqweq

4 ай бұрын

I like the southern accents like from Shanghai. But the Taiwanese accent sounds too slow and annoying, especially on women

@m.l7011

4 ай бұрын

There aint any southern accent in this video, the southern girl was speaking mandarin which a northern dialect. Many southern dialects are more sound like Thai and Vietnamese.

@m.l7011

4 ай бұрын

@@fruit4423这视频有哪怕一点南方口音吗？不就是标准普通话和北京南城话，都是北方方言。普通话成南方口音了？

@TheEarthRealm

4 ай бұрын

@@m.l7011 You're dumb. 😂 Taiwanese Mandarin sounds like the southern example given here. You can sit down.

This was like a really low budget rewind episode. I loved it.

Funny how Beijinger looks more like the average fujianese...and the fujianese looks more like Beijing ren

@anakitiktokwi2939

10 ай бұрын

Are you joking?

@LinLin_0308

9 ай бұрын

Both are Chinese guy

@deleteme924

9 ай бұрын

maybe just tan

@MagicalKid

7 ай бұрын

That's not true, the southerner actually looks like she could be from anywhere in Guangzhou or even Hong Kong

@skylargray455

7 ай бұрын

​@@anakitiktokwi2939no he's not. Many Northern Chinese are tall and elegant looking like the lady on the right and Southern Chinese tend to be usually rather smaller in stature and delicate in comparison just like the lady on the left. Of course there are exceptions to the case

Ok, got cha, clear as mud.👌

The south accent is the one we hear on movies often, I think.

@aoshi000

11 күн бұрын

Actually we usually hear the northern accent in movies from China as many famous actors are from Beijing. Unless you watch movies from Taiwan then it would totally be a southern accent.

@pavelvltchek1612

8 күн бұрын

Trust me bro there's no "south accent" shown in this video, only Beijing mandarin and standard putonghua

i like the husuo. 😍

@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256

Жыл бұрын

Idk what that word means. But I have a feeling I’ve heard of it before 😂

@izzyneubs

Жыл бұрын

​@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256 it means "nonsense" or "bullshit" haha! (胡说)

@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256

Жыл бұрын

@@izzyneubs thanks

@izzyneubs

Жыл бұрын

@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256 no prob 👍

@romanr.301

9 ай бұрын

It's a shortening of the Chinese idiom 胡说八道/胡說八道, which means "to speak nonsense." The Southern variation, 乱讲, means "to talk recklessly/wantonly"; 乱 put before a single-character verb just means to do that verb carelessly or halfheartedly (乱丢=to throw out carelessly; to litter).

The Norwegian tshirt that the one from Beijing is wearing is so nice!

Your english tho 👌

they are so cute goshhh!!

This is so cute!! Thanks for sharing

řřřřř for 北京 😂

@relaxationstation7374

6 ай бұрын

🤣Beijingers need the Rrrrr because it's Cold, as in Brrrrrrr!🤣

as a southern, i hate rolling my tongue

both of you have awesome clear English! thank you for this video, very cool. I can always hear a Bejing accent, so different than all the rest of those I have heard. Fuzhonese have their own accent which is quite different from Taipei mandarin, love to hear an example of those side by side also.

@generalnguyenngocloan1700

5 ай бұрын

It can drive you crazy, even the Fujianese have different dialects, they sound like different languages of their own.

@michaelmunno

5 ай бұрын

@@generalnguyenngocloan1700duya!

@kopokopo20

2 ай бұрын

@@generalnguyenngocloan1700 yeahh lmao my parents are from the same city in fujian and even their native tongues ("dialects") are completely different to each other

The other thing the beijinger like to do is dropping sounds. Like in good morning 早上好 zaoshanghao, they'll say zaoerrraor. 😅

@vsvishnusurvase6786

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@brightidea1

3 ай бұрын

Wow, that's a big change!

@James51879

Ай бұрын

No. There are rules to determine which words you can add the "er" to. In this case is "zao-er hao a" (早儿好啊), "zaoerrraor" is just incompetent pronunciation.

@halnicholas3791

Ай бұрын

Yes, a lot more elision in northern Chinese

@channaichew3013

Ай бұрын

But..so..how does "Wo gao shu ni" (i tell u) become "Wo gao'r ni" in their northen Chinese accent ??

My wife is from Luoyang, Henan and says their Mandarin is most perfect. I cannot speak Mandarin that good, but I know 100% when I hear Dongbei dialect, and it’s awesome to hear people from Harbin. 🐉👍🏻

@halnicholas3791

Ай бұрын

Yeah dongbei accent is cool

Wow! Loved these insights. New subscriber.

From James o’ Brian Mystery hour on London radio LBC, i learned that colder places have curled tongue accents and nasal tone due to the freezing cold.

@halnicholas3791

Ай бұрын

Hmm, interesting. Never heard that before.

This confused me like crazy when I first got to Taiwan, as their accent sounds more southern Chinese to me. 😊

@halnicholas3791

Ай бұрын

Yeah, can be frustrating. Chinese is already a sound poor language, then the southern accent eliminates all the retroflex sounds, so there are even fewer sounds! But after a while you get used to it.

This one is important to understand and to be learned...

i am chinese too look 我是华人啊！

you guys are super cute!!

I’m from NY and I feel like most of the Chinese I’ve heard here is southern accent. I guess a lot of American Chinese are from Guangdong, Fujian etc, interesting

@linglongmandarin

5 ай бұрын

Yes! Esp restaurant owners

北京话也全不代表北方话啊

Actual differences in southern pronunciation are that in thick southern accents, n and l are the same and zhi, chi, shi all become zi, ci, and si.

@hendywijaya3213

2 ай бұрын

You're right.. My grandparents were from southern China, so they and my parents can't speak "er" also can't differentiate between zhi chi shi and Zi CI si, not to mention the zhe che ze ce she

@halnicholas3791

Ай бұрын

Right. The southerner in the video is not speaking with that accent, she just speaks “textbook” standard Chinese.

This makes learning an inflection based language that much more difficult

@MagnumCarta

2 ай бұрын

My fiancee is Chinese and when I asked her if she'd help me get better at speaking Mandarin she said "don't bother"! xD

Im from beijin but I use both accents lol

I usually watch Chinese dramad with my mom (she loves it, the best for her) and I noticed that Chinese sounds like English with that "r", but Beijing Chinese confirm it. It's interesting these kind of things.

You're making my head hurt... :D

Thank you 🌹

My teacher is from Beijing - when I told her I have a computer science degree she went: "Fei1 hua4 zhe hu2 shuo1. Computer science degree mei2 you3 le wo3 bu4 ben4 :) Then I had to confess I'm a post grad fashion designer.

Thank you.

I belong to an ethnic group in the northern Philippines and upon learning that China is diversely united with a lot of ethnic group, looking at their textiles. I got to say I love every cultures.

ahahahahah i cracked when "bruh" appeared 😂😂😂😂😂

Lovely!

meanwhile in a place even more southern than Fujian like guangdong and guangxi. The accent is even more thinner compared to northern china. The accent over there more mimic to vietnamese tones.

@user-hc5cg3jc3i

Ай бұрын

想個屁越南越南人機口音我們中國還是他聽出，越南的口音跟東南亞的尤其是老撾泰國那邊口音一樣

im from harbin and i can confirm this is how we talk lol

AWESOME ❤❤❤❤

thats amazing the north chinese sound very much like those yorkshire dialect

@oliverbacon8073

6 ай бұрын

Exactly xd

@Gy7vv7g8vgug8uv

6 ай бұрын

What!!! I go to school in yorkshire but I'm northern chinese and I don't see any similarities 😭

@bitmelody2616

4 ай бұрын

Not at all. Yorkshire is known for being very non-rhotic. The North sounds like an American accent

@Gy7vv7g8vgug8uv

4 ай бұрын

@@bitmelody2616 Northerners do not sound anything like americans 😭

@bitmelody2616

4 ай бұрын

@@Gy7vv7g8vgug8uv just checking, we're both talking about the North of China, not of England, right? Because northern Chinese heavy use of erhua makes it sound very American. But of course Yorkshire and American accents are a world apart.

Invite me on i will show you hongkong mando accent🤣❤

@bhmcrumbs1348

9 ай бұрын

😱

@dankmemewannabe7692

7 ай бұрын

I must witness !!

@fruit4423

5 ай бұрын

大家好我四渣渣辉

@bmaxse

Ай бұрын

mandonese?

We're making it out of the Zhou dynasty with this one

I love learning Chinese then realizing it’s specific to the region I’m in and universal ahahaha

Wow!🤝👍

Further south in Singapore and Malaysia, we are closer to the southern accent but I feel we sounded more flat and monotonous. Beijing accent has its flair and both are unique.

i'm from the north but i grew up in north america only speaking to my parents in chinese, i just found out last week 墩布 is northern dialect and 拖布 is southern

@EvanLugin

6 ай бұрын

没有那么绝对 北方 南方的概念很笼统 几十个省份 地理 人文 环境 不能一概而论 有很多北方人也叫拖布

I've heard people speak Fujian dialict and it sounds like a different language.

@fruit4423

5 ай бұрын

是的福建话完全无法与普通话沟通。视频里介绍的只是不同口音的普通话。

I remember the first time I met a dude from northern china, and I told him to slow down dude! Your eating part of our english words. For example, he would say "energg" instead of energy!

not me a chinese person realising the chances of me slipping up with a hard r is like 60% higher

Your last example ( 胡说 [húshuō] vs 乱讲 [luànjiǎng]) got me really interested in what makes them distinct, yet can both mean “BS.” Looking at the individual character components for context, ‘Hu’ can mean ‘mustache,’ or ‘whiskers,’ but it can also mean ‘non-Han individuals, or ‘Hu people.’ “Luàn” (乱) on the other hand, can mean “riot,” or “disorder,” or “upheaval.” Looking even closer, its component characters mean “hidden tongues” when taken separately. So, a more “literal” interpretation for each one could be, respectively: “Hu-People Speak” and “Reckless/riotous speech.” Anyone with more knowledge of the etymology, please, I’d love to know your thoughts.

No wonder I'm confused as hell.

Heres a shortcut to having a northern accent, just add 'er' 儿 to basically everything 😭

The Chinese Northern accent corresponds in Brazil to the accent from the countryside

my classmates would have and easier time learning in the southern accent most of them cant pronounce the r at the end like instead of liao tianr they say liao tian er

My late grandmother was born in Xiamen, Fujian but she doesn't speak Putonghua but only Minnan (Hokkien).

@Hi_KevinBaek

Ай бұрын

u mean madarin

我也住在南方（厦门）

@imhokkien

6 ай бұрын

我的祖先是泉州人，你好

I like the *southern* accent better❤

Fine I'll watch Three Kingdoms again.

My family is from Eastern PA. They claim I don't speak English. I'm from Central PA.

my friend has a northern chinese accent and we say some words differently so sometimes we get a bit confused when talking to each other lmaooo

"Beijing? Even though it's the capital it's still not north enough to call themselves north!" Said by my northeastern Chinese buddy😂

That's just a local dialect 😂😂😂😂

@user-hc5cg3jc3i

Ай бұрын

不是的，這是地方的普通話要說方言的話是啊不同的

The "luànjiang" one in my local language when separated to"lu anjiang" means "You dog" 😂😂

@leezhieng

5 ай бұрын

Silence (安静) in chinese is anjing. You can say "lu anjing!" when asking someone to be silent. :P

North: Pirates Cantonese: Normal people who are not pirates.

I prefer southern accent much more ❤

Jesus they sound like different words in the 2 accents.

The Fujian Accent, is more like the Malaysian & Singapore Chinese Mandrin.

That húsūo 的轻声 was so intense! 😆👍 Why am I so bilingual though?! 😅

Southern sounds more soft

Sounds like "how are"

Southern Chinese 💪

I'm from the south and I once had a Chinese teacher from the north. I JUST REALIZED THIS AND IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE. Now my Chinese is like if you slap Northern and Southern accent together and put in a buncha 'uh's

@AJK-a2j00k4

11 ай бұрын

don't southern chinese people know mandarin as it's china's national language and official language as well????

@nigellei8591

9 ай бұрын

@@AJK-a2j00k4 They are force to learn mandarin as a second language in elementary school up to high school. but only 1 hour per day. they speak their native language at home and everywhere else in their home town...even in government offices.

@sudonim7552

9 ай бұрын

@@nigellei8591 I am from Guangdong and Mandarin is widely used alongside Cantonese ("Canton" is just the British name for Guangdong), not some rare thing you learn in school and never use again. Idk what you're referring to. I hardly think it's "forced" at all.

@waij8261

8 ай бұрын

​@@nigellei8591may i know what the native language at home they speak.

@MagicalKid

7 ай бұрын

​​@@waij8261there are many regional languages, like Cantonese, Hokkien, Teochew, Hakka etc....kinda like the Italian languages (Sicilian, Neapolitan) where people still speak them regionally. But they actually do use Mandarin a lot as well on a day to day basis and not just one hour a day like what the reply above suggests.

The Northern Chinese accent sounds worse than nails scratching on glass

I really like the southern accent

I understand what you were saying and I speak Chinese

Love the shirt! ❤ How did you like Norway?

Do we gonna get a part 2?🥺

The northern accent is like the Australian accent but Chinese.

beijing is like australian coz of the er sound

That's not southern accent, it's just standard "Mandarin"... Southern accent has more feature like lacking "r" and "-h" sound.

@intodust_asian_club

6 ай бұрын

Yeah exactly

@hbrant

4 ай бұрын

Agreed, Southern accent is Sichuanese. I didn't hear it in this video.

@m.l7011

4 ай бұрын

No, southern part like Sichuan/Chongqing use a lot of “r” 😅

@allone4080

Ай бұрын

For fujian people we can pronounce s/sh z/zh properly 😂

So different

This is perfectly clear, now. I’m from the south, Guangzhou.

我来自福建，厦门

lol i’m learning Chinese in the Southern part of China but they use Northern textbook (BLCU). They teach Putonghua too, but i feel weird for using excessive 儿 at times 😂😂

Then... there's Cantonese

Hey I just wanted the combination #9 w the after party special massaGEEEEEEEE

Geographically, they're Northeast and southeast.