Nord Stage 3 vs. Yamaha CP88

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Many people have called the Yamaha CP88 "The Black Nord", and constantly compare it to Nord's revered line of keyboards. In this video, I find out how the CP88 compares to the Nord Stage 3, and discuss the pros, cons, and similarities of both instruments.

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  • @ThePianoforever
    @ThePianoforever4 жыл бұрын

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  • @tosinoparinde9563

    @tosinoparinde9563

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love the Nord

  • @realmbeatz744

    @realmbeatz744

    3 жыл бұрын

    i play on a korg sp300 , i enjoy the hammer action on the korg then i ever have enjoyed on the stage 2 or 3. my next keyboard with eithor be a newer korg or a yamaha cp88. can you do a demo on the korg sp300???

  • @RosssRoyce
    @RosssRoyce4 жыл бұрын

    The Nord issues are absolutely unacceptable for the monstrous price! Thank you for this review!

  • @elsephi

    @elsephi

    4 жыл бұрын

    that loud note is a glitch on cheap boards

  • @dorvangerven574

    @dorvangerven574

    3 жыл бұрын

    What a shame , the Nord is such a beauty You should expect quality from a world brand like Nord. I thought they provided good material but its not, judging by the many problems posted on the internet ( at my personal opinion ) its rubbish insn't it? I whas seriously planning to buy a new stage 3 88 but after seeing the many quality problems on internet, I better look out for something else. A shame because the sound of the Nord Stage is fantastic but tecnnically unreliable.

  • @F0nkyNinja

    @F0nkyNinja

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nord is overrated

  • @luisfloresgonzalez2337

    @luisfloresgonzalez2337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@F0nkyNinja facts

  • @elmehdioubouhouch

    @elmehdioubouhouch

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dorvangerven574 same here very sad

  • @JoeNaeem
    @JoeNaeem4 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad Theon Greyjoy managed to somehow get his life back together and is now demoing keyboards.

  • @reginaldopadua8258

    @reginaldopadua8258

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @tosinoparinde9563

    @tosinoparinde9563

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @phillippearl647

    @phillippearl647

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hilarious

  • @Native_love

    @Native_love

    3 жыл бұрын

    Made me laugh! Thanks!

  • @aciaroch
    @aciaroch4 жыл бұрын

    I think I know what's going on with the Nord action. Most modern keyboards use a system of two mechanical 'plungers' (call them Pa and Pb) to calculate key velocity. When you press a note on the keyboard, Pa gets actuated first, followed by Pb. The time delta between the Pa 'event' and the Pb 'event' (call it Td) determines how loud the note plays: If Td is very small, you must have pressed the key very fast/hard, so the note plays 'loud' (or a loud sample). If Td is relatively large, you must have pressed the key slow/soft so the note plays more quietly. Sometimes a plunger will get stuck in the up or down position due to mechanical failure or dirt in the system. This results in a situation where you get a Pa event with no corresponding Pb event, or vice versa. The software design determines how these anomalies are handled. From my experience, if you get an isolated Pa event with no Pb event, the note will not play at all. This makes sense, because you may not have pressed the key all the way down. If you get an isolated Pb event, however, the note plays REALLY F'ing LOUD! Louder than you could ever play it (perhaps because Td = zero?). This is what happened with my Nord, due to some dust getting in the Pa plunger. My tech cleaned the keyboard, and everything was fine. My suspicion: When two notes are played in rapid succession, as you do in the video, the key does not have time to return to its full 'up' position. Occasionally this will result in Pb getting released, but Pa is still held down, so you get the isolated Pb situation on the second hit. This is partly a mechanical design issue, but the software needs to handle this situation (other keyboards do). They can't make the note silent or the action will seem sluggish. Real pianos with crappy actions can produce a similar effect, though for obviously different reasons. However, making it max volume is really annoying, although most will never notice it because they never play like that. Personally, I would suggest they match the velocity of the previous key event. That may not mirror a real piano, but the current situation certainly doesn't either, and it would be far less annoying.

  • @tonirazz5565

    @tonirazz5565

    4 жыл бұрын

    They actually use a third plunger here to let you strike another note before the key is completely lifted. The stranger it seems that this happens bc it would mean that 2/3 are broken?

  • @SianaGearz

    @SianaGearz

    4 жыл бұрын

    It stands to reason that a specific fraction of the time between B release and B being retriggered can be used as an indication of key velocity if A is not released, to software handle fast play. I watched Linus Akesson transform an old organ into the Chipophone a while back, and since then, every time i see a broken keyboard, a thought keeps popping up in my head that i might want to get it, take its keybed and try to build my own electronics underneath it (even augment it with a second hit spot for velocity), but i've never taken up on the challenge since... i really have a lot of unfinished projects already, and it's probably not the most practical thing to do since well MIDI is around, but should i get around to it, i'll keep the insight in mind, thank you very much. I'm slowly procrastinating on designing something based on an arcade Yamaha OPN2 soundchip similar to the one used in SEGA MegaDrive/Genesis, but obviously i haven't done much yet :D Like i want to get approximate sound figured out before i start figuring out the controls i need with it.

  • @LouisManofMusic

    @LouisManofMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    You made my brain mush

  • @philburns5656

    @philburns5656

    2 жыл бұрын

    The day will come that we see a third "plunger" in each key. It might be placed right in the middle of A and B or be a little closer to B. It will minimize the problem with keys not being up-again completely before pressed down. Furthermore, it will measure information about the way you press the key. Anyone experienced in playing on an acoustic piano knows that it isn't only the average A-to-B velocity that shapes the tone. A third plunger would be a big step towards modelling these differences. Of course, it's also a matter of cost.

  • @pascalhibon7928
    @pascalhibon79283 жыл бұрын

    I never touched a Nord but I was always amazed by the beautiful sound it produces. I am surprised to hear about the build quality and issues you experienced. But a great an honest review as always.

  • @michaelryden3569
    @michaelryden35693 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You are excellent at detailing your experience. I was already looking at the CP88; this just makes me get it sooner.

  • @oriolesandravens
    @oriolesandravens3 жыл бұрын

    I always appreciate your reviews and demonstrations, but I absolutely love listening to you play. And, YES, I want to purchase your Treble Test Piece as my ring tone. The intro for texts and the melody for calls. Your style and interpretation is so soothing and relaxing.

  • @davidschwartz2670
    @davidschwartz26704 жыл бұрын

    James, thank you thank you thank you for all the reviews you posted (I just recently discovered your channel here). It's wonderful to find an independent, knowledgable voice, without an axe to grind, talking about these instruments. Also, cool jacket.

  • @JamSmoothie
    @JamSmoothie4 жыл бұрын

    The random volume change is weird. I do appreciate the review. I came to some of the same conclusions about the action. Yamaha doesn't seem to have the same options with the synth as you mention. and the layering and the keyboard splits make it a tough decision. I love them both actually. Thanks for the review. It's only money. :0)

  • @jacashi
    @jacashi4 жыл бұрын

    One of the best comparisons i have ever seen. Nice & honest.

  • @michaelnancyamsden7410
    @michaelnancyamsden74104 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, James, you tell it like it is. You playing is lovely

  • @shedroids
    @shedroids3 жыл бұрын

    That was an---> EXCELLENT review by you! A complete pleasure to learn about the 2 digital pianos. Thank you :)

  • @redmusichouse
    @redmusichouse4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the detailed, honest review!

  • @BillVincent
    @BillVincent4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great and honest review!

  • @bmajortheproducer7561
    @bmajortheproducer75614 жыл бұрын

    I really love the way nord pianos sound. I’ve been looking at them and now you make me want to reconsider 😬

  • @rexy83
    @rexy832 жыл бұрын

    Yamahas have never let me down in build quality I still have a p250 that is 20+ years old and it still plays like the day I bought it... Thanks for the review on the Nord I was interested in it but was curious about the action it just looked light watching artists play it.

  • @andreafox7267
    @andreafox72674 жыл бұрын

    So glad I bought a Yamaha and not a Nord. I’ve got a Montage 8 and I’m considering a CP88 for gigging as the Montage in it’s case is 45kg! Thank you for this review and demo. Really enjoy your channel.

  • @bsdguy
    @bsdguy4 жыл бұрын

    Great review young man!

  • @musicbinderpro8903
    @musicbinderpro89034 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for this great review!

  • @Zanthxs
    @Zanthxs4 жыл бұрын

    Magnificent vid for comparison but what choice of masterpieces to play! Omg . . . sublime. Thank You!

  • @michaelyarbrough967
    @michaelyarbrough9674 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the comparison. I literally feel the same way. I cannot justify the Nord price. I think I’m going with the Roland RD 2000; great price, great sound and massive library plus the 2 wheels and the awesome mod wheel. If it only had a ribbon controller built in.

  • @designersnestm569
    @designersnestm5694 жыл бұрын

    Love the honesty... hope Nord responded to the issue

  • @arnoldhendrick7224
    @arnoldhendrick72244 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a frank and useful comparative review!

  • @danieljung2810
    @danieljung28104 жыл бұрын

    Also as a pianist the action is very, very important and how it interacts with the sound. Thank you for this.

  • @heidermusic9189
    @heidermusic91894 жыл бұрын

    Had more Nord for several weeks now, I have had ZERO issues with it at all.Super solid keyboard, hand downs.

  • @MarcTelesha

    @MarcTelesha

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nord fans are similar to Apple fans :)

  • @nodfactor8808

    @nodfactor8808

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MarcTelesha Haha!

  • @walrusgumboot

    @walrusgumboot

    4 жыл бұрын

    Heider Music I have the Nord Stage 2, have had it for years (6 or 7 years), still going strong. Played it a ton, gigged with it and never had any issues.

  • @joechristopher5803

    @joechristopher5803

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marc Telesha fans of any brand stick to the brand usually, it’s not particular to one brand dummy

  • @danielronnqvist3192
    @danielronnqvist31924 жыл бұрын

    You are the best. One of the few that talks about what actually matters.

  • @rylieriley
    @rylieriley3 жыл бұрын

    This review and comparison is excellent and extremely helpful. Thank you for putting the time and effort into doing it.

  • @Fitzrovialitter
    @Fitzrovialitter4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this honest review.

  • @Alan_Chapman
    @Alan_Chapman4 жыл бұрын

    Have owned several Yamaha keyboards. Never any issues aside from keys on the Montage. Yamaha Montage has been solid aside from a few keys becoming stiff when played with any slight lateral force from the right side such as a glissando. Also, there was a situation where the OS would freeze and the screen would be locked on an edit page, but they fixed that in a firmware update way back in 2016 or 2017. I just like the “character” some of the Nord piano sounds have. Never liked their action, but like most keyboards you get used to it after playing for about 20 minutes. Nord is overpriced generally in my opinion.

  • @bram6070
    @bram60704 жыл бұрын

    This is my first video of you I watched. You seem like a very nice and knowledgable guy.

  • @ThePianoforever

    @ThePianoforever

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the visit and hope to see you again.

  • @alexanderav1780
    @alexanderav17804 жыл бұрын

    Wow, good election, the Gnossiene no. 1 by Erik Satie is a beautiful piece

  • @shookmusic
    @shookmusic4 жыл бұрын

    thank you, great review and comparison video!

  • @ThePianoforever

    @ThePianoforever

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @rio197
    @rio1974 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, whenever I tried the Nord I'm always disappointed with the key action. The Yamaha key action, on the other hand, always feels solid even though I don't really enjoy their piano sound.

  • @chucky36
    @chucky364 жыл бұрын

    I just played a Nord Stage 2 88 for a 90 minute concert with different dynamics. The keybed is TRASH!!!! The sounds are awesome. I’m a Yamaha guy. CP88 is the way to go!

  • @cameron357
    @cameron3574 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful playing bro

  • @armstronglance
    @armstronglance4 жыл бұрын

    I’m 66, none of my Yamaha keyboards, drum machines, sound modules or midi accessories have ever failed. They still play like the day I bought them. (My Rolands on the other hand, while great sounding keyboards, slowly over time developed issues)

  • @docprince

    @docprince

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yamaha has better build quality than Roland.

  • @mjt11860
    @mjt118603 жыл бұрын

    great & informative review. thanks!

  • @peaceofkake1085
    @peaceofkake10854 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding! Yamaha has always been the brand I completely trust. I probably will never buy a different brand of electronic keyboard. I also love the fact that Yamaha owns Bosendorfer. When the time comes for me to buy a piano that's over a thousand dollars, hopefully I'll find a Yamaha with a Bosendorfer sampling. As to the Nord, I know you're disappointed but remember one thing- anything you buy has the potential to be a lemon, which is why the warranty is so important. Even when companies manufacture cars, they expect a certain percentage of them to not work perfectly. My gut tells me that even if the store or Nord its self were to offer to replace it with a properly working one, you'd still wouldn't want it.

  • @maxvandesandebakhuyzen6627

    @maxvandesandebakhuyzen6627

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Yamaha CP88 has a Bosendorfer sample!

  • @BassKlef1
    @BassKlef14 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the revealing review. I wonder if you used the Bosendorfer on the CP88 that the sound would be better comparison to the N3?

  • @RobertKennedyPersonal
    @RobertKennedyPersonal4 жыл бұрын

    For some reason the review doesn't mention (and none of the comments seem to mention) that this discussion of "the piano sound" on the Stage 3 is kind of broken at the outset: It's great if you like "the piano sound" on the Stage 3, but if you don't, you need to realize there's actually a large library of piano sounds, with many of them already preloaded in the Stage 3 as it comes from the factory. It's perhaps not surprising that the bass on the Stage 3 sounds like a 7-foot piano because the Nord piano library actually includes samples of several 7-footers. There are also big pianos sampled in their library, so it would be worth a review that goes into more depth to explore at least more than one of Nord's grand piano sounds. Maybe the Yamaha also has multiple piano samples available? Does it also have a large and growing library of samples you can download and install on the keyboard in case you don't like the factory sounds so much? I don't know. Regarding the Stage 3 again, what I'm saying is actually true of "the Rhodes sound" as well. There are multiple Rhodes samples in the unit as shipped, and this review looked at only one of them, I think.

  • @MarioLpd1
    @MarioLpd14 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations for the video, for now I keep my CP88 with the Modx7 ......

  • @cliffjhun_music
    @cliffjhun_music4 жыл бұрын

    I had the same sudden loud note at fast repetition issue with my NP4, but no one believed me! This proves I wasn't crazy.

  • @zennabella1676

    @zennabella1676

    4 жыл бұрын

    NO, YOU ARE NOT CRAZY. MY KORG SP280 STARTED GETTING VERY LOUD NOTES WHICH BY THE WAY ARE BLACK KEYS AND NOT WHITE ONES. AND NOW I THINK I HAVE 4 OR 5 VERY LOUD KEYS. MY PLAYING SOUNDS AWFUL NOW THE NOTES ARE LIKE THIS. ONE DAY WHEN I DONT FEEL TOO TIRED AND LAZY I MIGHT TRY TO FIX MY KEYBOARD PIANO. YOU CAN WATCH HOW TO FIX A KEYBOARD ON KZread. THERE ARE SO MANY SCREWS IN SOME KEYBOARDS THOUGH. IF YOU LIVE IN A MAIN TOWN OR CITY IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER FOR YOU TO PAY SOMEONE TO FIX YOUR KEYBOARD. I LIVE A LONG WAY FROM A MAIN TOWN SO ID HAVE TO FIX MY OWN KEYBOARD PIANO.

  • @risuku2002
    @risuku20024 жыл бұрын

    You tested very carefully, thank you!

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    We have a winner - honestly, I didn't expect that.

  • @bernardofitzpatrick5403
    @bernardofitzpatrick54034 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your great content man - learn a lot from your channel. Sad, but Bro the Nord is in a few respects a dud (excepting the sound which is really pretty) - some major flaws there as you have shown ! love the way you alternate the tune on both keyboards - sick! Debussy and I am in heaven.... man the last tune on the Nord was totally dope (dude i loved it)!

  • @ChazSeamus28
    @ChazSeamus284 жыл бұрын

    great review

  • @failsus4065
    @failsus40654 жыл бұрын

    I have a Korg Karma with those issues. I took it apart. Plastic keys and chicklet sensors. It's probably the same part. There are two sensors per key. It tries to detect "pressure" by using the two sensors to calculate the speed at which the keys are hit. That's where the glitch comes in. If you hit a key twice in rapid succession, it throws off the little IC chips that measure the delay, making it a negative number. It probably uses the same sensor boards as well. The whole plastic keyboard with the attached sensor boards is probably a unit you can order from China to build your own keyboard.

  • @eelcotrietsch8113
    @eelcotrietsch81132 жыл бұрын

    In firmware update v2.60 (2021-09-23) it states as one of the improvement "Improved handling of high-velocity strokes during quick key repetitions". Does this update solve the sudden volume increase 'bug'? Could you confirm this? I'm considering buying a Nord Stage 3, but this bug could be a deal breaker...

  • @moldenburg909
    @moldenburg9094 жыл бұрын

    It’s really pity that Nord didn’t put more time in the quality because the sound is good but the cp88 wins. In this case I mean because I still love the Roland 2000 that you reviewed. Thank you for sharing.

  • @donk.5730
    @donk.57304 жыл бұрын

    Great concise intelligent review. Great to be positive, but you are either honest or not honest. Thank you for being Honest ! Never heard anything about a NORD before, now I have. I hope they contact you and fix the issues you saw . Cheers,...

  • @shaneliffin6116
    @shaneliffin61162 жыл бұрын

    Your knowledge of digital and acoustic pianos amazes me!

  • @jim538
    @jim5383 жыл бұрын

    Very Helpful!! I thought Nord was market leader... especially at the price!! I had tried the action and it felt more spring like and less piano like and therefore thought the higher price wasn't worth it.

  • @brandonmckoy8680
    @brandonmckoy86804 жыл бұрын

    Does the key bed glitch still occur if you midi the Nord to another board?

  • @christinacary
    @christinacary3 жыл бұрын

    I just sold my SV-1, ten yrs old, never any issues with the keybed and I play hard a lot. It was used for studio not gigging. I did have an issue with weak 1/4” jack main out. Other Main issue was I kept accidentally hitting the presets buttons whilst playing, switching to a diff sound like an organ, it gave me a heart attack every time ! Shopping for replacement now :)

  • @armstronglance
    @armstronglance4 жыл бұрын

    I like the CP300. I know it’s an older keyboard, but the piano & built in speakers sounds fantastic! (Excellent chops by the way!)

  • @dooitzeyidejong

    @dooitzeyidejong

    4 жыл бұрын

    I used to own the CP300. What an excellent stagepiano!

  • @kojtaaa

    @kojtaaa

    4 жыл бұрын

    Piano sound od CP300 is still very good and run great via PAs, it has sharp sound well cutting through the band. Compared to Nord’s pianos it is not so natural sounding, but works great on stage. Rhodes and hammonds on CP300 are farely not so good though… CP300s speakers are cool for stereo monitoring on stage.

  • @toth-music
    @toth-music4 жыл бұрын

    Hi James, thank you so much for your honesty and diligently and carefully testing of the pianos.These are such helpful informations! By the way: I like the piano sound of the Yamaha Stage Piano much more, specially when you say, the Nord Stage 3 is more mellow: yes it is, but it doesn't really sound like a piano, more like a bass guitar.... a lot of punch, but no way, this is not a grand piano sound. The Yamaha is much more realistic, allthough sometimes a bit sharp, specially in the high notes. But this sharpness gives the important quality of clearness in classic interpretations. Funny and inbelievable the problem with repetition... I just couldn't trust my ears when I heard the single tone springing out....! no way....! Anyway I was interested specially in touch and differenciation of touch and sound for playing classical music as professional, to get the possibility to practice during the holydays... keep up with your channel, your engagement is like a bright star and gives clear orientations...

  • @movingparticle3835
    @movingparticle38354 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the loudness issue you mention: I was facing similar problems with the Pro2 but only related to some single keys. And it was definitely a problem of age although I want to point out that I've got a DP by Denon which still works fine after 30 years now. DPs principally don't need to be that durable due to the fast technological change but stage-pianos absolutely need to be robust.

  • @cjhepburn7406
    @cjhepburn74064 жыл бұрын

    After this I'd go 4 the CP88 (like I know what I'm talking about. Lol.

  • @zamora_5312
    @zamora_53123 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Yamaha YC 88 and im really happy with my purchase. Pianos & EP Pianos are great, CFX, S700, U1 & the C7 sound really good. Rhodes sound great too with a little EQ to your taste and your good to go. In the other hand the YC has an FM engine and im amazed they imported some FM pianos from the montage like the FM Piano DA from montage & some others. I hope that via a firmware update they add some TX/DX presets too. Keybed action is really good. Compared to my old Yamaha P105 Graded Hammer Standard this had Natural Wood Triple Sensor and its a premium high quality keybed.

  • @selftrue670
    @selftrue6704 жыл бұрын

    I agree that the Nord has a fuller, more acoustic piano-like sound than did the Yamaha, though not a glaring difference.. Sometimes, that's an EQ or other setting peculiarity that can be worked out. Build quality and durability is a major issue for me, as is touch. I own an RD800 Roland--it is a beast, and I love love love the action. However, I have never cared for the piano tones through monitors, and I have never found setting to correct it.

  • @musikone1780

    @musikone1780

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just get Keyscape from Spectrasonics and NOIRE from Native Instruments and you'll be good.

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this! Has anybody told you before you look like Robert Martin? Not that that has anything to do with it, of course. Had to ask, sorry :-) Again, thanks for this video ... it has helped a lot! All the best, ~ Fred

  • @aaronbarber6238
    @aaronbarber62384 жыл бұрын

    That round robin glitch happens to me a lot. It always gives me a good jump when it barks like that. It also triggers Micro Midi notes sometimes too, I sometimes have to go back and clean up the Midi data. It definitely is a buzz kill, the sounds are very nice though.

  • @erestube
    @erestube4 жыл бұрын

    I had an on/off switch issue on the original nord electro. Brings back memories. Looks like they've got production issues.

  • @calebrabion4786
    @calebrabion47864 жыл бұрын

    This is why I am Yamaha for life

  • @zennabella1676

    @zennabella1676

    4 жыл бұрын

    YAMAHA IMPRESSES ME TOO.

  • @polerity

    @polerity

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @SorryIwasntListening
    @SorryIwasntListening4 жыл бұрын

    Love the Nord sound...so organic.... hang on did you say twice the price!... Ok I can live with the Yamaha sound!😉

  • @mijaatin
    @mijaatin4 жыл бұрын

    There’s certain functionality with Nord’s lighter action: it’s not just piano, it’s also organ and fully featured synth. So you can play those fastest synth lines easily. Nord’s are very reliable. Built like tanks. You clearly have faulty unit. Otherwise Nord beats Yamaha CP88 hands down: CP88 does not have synth, only samples and organ is afterthought.

  • @ThePianoforever

    @ThePianoforever

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree and disagree. While synths do have nonweighted keys, it is not difficult to play quickly on a heavier piano style action. Classical pianists do it all the time. The only downside to a heavier action would be that doing glissandos wouldn't be as easy, which is an important aspect in some styles of organ playing. The overall build quality of the Nord's frame seemed alright, although it was geared more towards being as light as possible. And while I agree that the Nord has more features than the Yamaha, I'd say the CP-88 has higher quality control. I had no problems with it, and haven't heard of any from other sources.

  • @drmedwuast

    @drmedwuast

    4 жыл бұрын

    ThePianoforever The point is that the Nord’s keys are not meant to be optimized for piano sounds alone. I find the action to be a perfect compromise between playability for rhodes, organ, synth and piano sounds.

  • @TheEchelon

    @TheEchelon

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Nord is also twice the price..

  • @KarlMiller-DjKarl
    @KarlMiller-DjKarl4 жыл бұрын

    I had a loud key glitch on my old Yamaha P-45... I like the CP88 I played it at the music store and love the pitch bender on it also like the keys... ☮️🔥

  • @zachhunter5311

    @zachhunter5311

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same issue with my P115.

  • @billbachjazz
    @billbachjazz4 жыл бұрын

    Great job though bro! Huge help!

  • @sehan622
    @sehan6224 жыл бұрын

    That was harsh, you must have got a bad one. I own the NP2, beautiful instrument, bad pedal, I`m on my third pedal now. I know the Yamaha people stick to...Yamaha:D I guess it`s a reason for that. Guess what. When I leave my home with my precious Nord I bring an old Yamaha pedal for backup. Happy playing out there, great review.

  • @web3risk
    @web3risk3 жыл бұрын

    Nords break. Nords can't be easily repaired. How do I know? I have a Stage 2 Door Stop Edition sitting in its Nord body bag, never to see the light of day again.

  • @ReallyDudeYouGottaHearThis

    @ReallyDudeYouGottaHearThis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bummer. I went through hell trying to find someone to even look at a keyboard that I was having trouble with. I had to go outside the music community to find an excellent electronics guy

  • @kananello3624
    @kananello36243 жыл бұрын

    Although I've been using Yamaha for a very long time yet I do love sound of the Nord stage 3, only if Nord technicians can sort out its issues, I might consider it

  • @fortnight_in_florida
    @fortnight_in_florida3 жыл бұрын

    I like this guy..Good quality review - thanks buddy - particularly like your dry sense of disappointment - in a good way ;-)

  • @anonymous_friend
    @anonymous_friend Жыл бұрын

    great review. Have you tested the SL88 controllers? Curious if those have a nice action compared yamahas.

  • @wgmfl
    @wgmfl4 жыл бұрын

    Great work as usual James. I want to ask what is the name of the hypnotic song you played after your usual song you typically play. It sure was mesmorizing.

  • @benjaminsmith2287

    @benjaminsmith2287

    4 жыл бұрын

    Erik Satie, Gnossienne 1

  • @erik1997

    @erik1997

    4 жыл бұрын

    Erik Satie - Gnossienne no 1

  • @Teilzeitflaneur
    @Teilzeitflaneur3 жыл бұрын

    Great review. Which monitors do you use at the Yamaha CP88?

  • @Modeltnick
    @Modeltnick4 жыл бұрын

    Good review! Quality seems to be shaky on anything made these days. Thanks!

  • @MB23ytch
    @MB23ytch4 жыл бұрын

    Great review! Did you try the cp73 action?

  • @charleslascari7191
    @charleslascari71914 жыл бұрын

    Have you tested the Electro 6? Does it have the same loudness on repeat problem? You can get one with manual drawbars, right?

  • @mnhguy
    @mnhguy4 жыл бұрын

    The sudden loud key glitch is a massive problem on my korg krome. It kills the entire mood a whole lot of the time. So thank goodness for this heads up.

  • @zennabella1676

    @zennabella1676

    4 жыл бұрын

    THANKS, I WONT EVER GET A KORG KROME. I HAVE SEEN THOSE ONLINE AND WAS A BIT IMPRESSED. I DONT WANT ANY KEYBOARD PIANO WHERE SOME NOTES GO EXTREMELY LOUD. ITS HAPPENED WITH MY KORG SP280. AND SOME OF THE BLACK KEYS WENT VERY LOUD WHEN I HADNT EVEN HAD IT FOR VERY LONG. NOW THERE ARE MORE VERY LOUD BLACK NOTES ON THIS KEYBOARD PIANO. IM NOT TOO HAPPY ABOUT THIS. I HAVE AN OLD UPRIGHT PIANO HERE AS WELL. BUT ITS TERRIBLY OUT OF TUNE SINCE I MOVED. NO ONE AROUND HERE WILL FIX EITHER OF MY PIANOS SO I HAVE TO ONE DAY FIND SOME STRENGTH AND ENERGY TO FIX ONE OF MY PIANOS MYSELF. MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE MY KEYBOARD PIANO. THEY LOOK EASIER TO FIX THAN THE OLD UPRIGHT NON ELECTRIC PIANOS.

  • @BeaserHendrix
    @BeaserHendrix4 жыл бұрын

    I am in love with your playing!

  • @Jonathan-ex3sl
    @Jonathan-ex3sl4 жыл бұрын

    You cant load any additional sounds or samples onto the yamaha.. I don't understand why. It doesn't make sense to compare the sounds in such detail when you can just swap out the nord sounds with whatever you want.

  • @elsephi
    @elsephi4 жыл бұрын

    the piano sounds on the nord is darker , i like it

  • @Paul-ur5kc
    @Paul-ur5kc4 жыл бұрын

    I'm still using a Yamaha P-150 that I bought in 1995 and have used from FL to Vegas and all points in between. The keybed action is still very good and I've no complaints. The piano samples are usable but I often simply MIDI into a number of others.

  • @Marion0142
    @Marion01424 жыл бұрын

    what about the nord piano 4?

  • @philippelambert329
    @philippelambert3294 жыл бұрын

    I have played a Yamaha CP80 for about 20 years, and as it seems now to be starting having some age (and wear)-related problems, I have been considering replacing it with a Nord in the next months... Well I'll rather have a close look at the CP88 instead :-)

  • @michaelleggieri7135
    @michaelleggieri71354 жыл бұрын

    I just tried out that keyboard today at Nashville guitar center no good . They had the Yamaha and it sounded great and felt greAt.

  • @larrbaII
    @larrbaII4 жыл бұрын

    6:00 Now that's true after-touch. :(

  • @blackie8083
    @blackie80832 жыл бұрын

    I like this guy's video's, James Pavel Shawcross, he's very easy to understand, very articulate, gives a honest review, plays great, and his video's are some of the best out there. I had a Nord, than sold it. I was going to get this Nord Stage 3 keyboard, but because of this video, I'm going to have to pass on Nord.

  • @michaelmagee6428
    @michaelmagee64284 жыл бұрын

    does any company make a keyboard that is weighted when playing it as a piano, and then you can turn off the weighting feature when played like a synthesizer or organ??

  • @marvinkmooneyoz

    @marvinkmooneyoz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Magee some keyboards will allow you to choose the sound to be triggered at different points, as in, you can choose to trigger the sound when the key is pressed all the way down, or triggered half way down, or other trigger points. To actually change the action would be pretty complex

  • @olandlucyharries7437
    @olandlucyharries74374 жыл бұрын

    I have the same loud issue note on my yamaha too......... its apparently a worn sensor/rubber??

  • @vodcastwithak
    @vodcastwithak3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, have you never tried Kurzweil? Would love a review of PC4 from you.

  • @sobhan704
    @sobhan7044 жыл бұрын

    James, Would you mind reviewing Nord Grand? It's an interesting board imho 😬

  • @PianoFromScratch
    @PianoFromScratch4 жыл бұрын

    I think i'll always be a nord guy, I mean they're shiny and red

  • @cjhepburn7406

    @cjhepburn7406

    4 жыл бұрын

    If it was a Transformer, it would have won hands down!

  • @kaspartambur

    @kaspartambur

    4 жыл бұрын

    spray paint costs 3.5 euros for entire synth covering

  • @AndreasDelleske

    @AndreasDelleske

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kaspar Tambur then label it „süd“ (south)

  • @rechebounald
    @rechebounald4 жыл бұрын

    I do wonder what is the best set-up for speakers for playing at home?

  • @PastTime777
    @PastTime7774 жыл бұрын

    Bring on the Korg Kronos. If that doesn't stand up then the only other contender is going to be the Kurzweil. I think Nord screwed up by trying to make their keyboard light. That's where the build quality would come into question. The Korg Kronos 88 weighted is 80 pounds. I can carry it, but it's heavy and often times I had someone help me move it. The Kronos is the standard in the gigging world along with the Kruzweil for Piano, Rhodes, Strings, Synth. Then you pick an organ as the 2nd keyboard, which is either Hammond or Roland. And while you're playing that Korg Kronos, punch up the Lyle Mays patch and play the solo to "Before You Go" and you'll blow the minds of everyone. Make a video dissecting that solo and people will watch it forever.

  • @MultiMrPhill
    @MultiMrPhill3 жыл бұрын

    Great Piano playing. Great Music.

  • @Elohim7777
    @Elohim77774 жыл бұрын

    Was about to pull the trigger for nord stage 3 until i got to feel its keybed... went for cp88 instead, i may however still buy the compact ver if i see a cheaper price.

  • @TomAtkinson
    @TomAtkinson4 жыл бұрын

    Is that a Bela Bartok track at the end? Nice one.

  • @stanleyc9842
    @stanleyc98423 жыл бұрын

    Well the truth is, most piano and EPiano sample on Nord is based on YAMAHA Grand Piano/Keyboard. Royal Grand 3D = Yamaha S6 Studio Grand 2 = Yamaha C7 Bright Grand = Yamaha S4 Grand Imperial = Bösendorfer 290 (Which is owned by Yamaha) Grand Upright = Yamaha U3 EGrand 3 Amped = Yamaha CP80 DX7 Fulltines = Yamaha DX7

  • @rdean150
    @rdean1504 жыл бұрын

    First off, the piece you played to compare the keyboards around the 11:30 mark - bravo, just gorgeous. Whats the name of that piece? It sounds hauntingly familiar, like something from a noir dream... I spent some time with a CP88 a few months ago and found the action to be a little heavier than ideal, and I'm glad to hear that sentiment represented here as well. At first I was thrilled by the weight, then after about 30 - 45 minutes I realized my hands were feeling noticeably more fatigued than usual. I'm sure that is indicative of a need to improve my form, but it is undeniably heavy action. I did quite enjoy the feel and sound of the instrument overall though.

  • @reyesnmusic

    @reyesnmusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    it's a piece from Erik Satié, Gnossienne 1

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