I like seeing 8 heatpipes, high fin density, and awesome fans... but the new NH-D15 will have to substantially outperform my Phantom Spirit before I would pay that much for it. Thumbs up!

@horizon4895

2 ай бұрын

That's the problem, I think. I just don't there is any reason why anyone should pick this over the Phantom Spirit. It's 1/3 of the price, will guaranteed get you over 90% of the way there for that price, given how hard it is to optimize these tower coolers. Like I appreciate Jacob's enthusiasm, but 150 USD is insane pricing. At that price point, it is already going up against some of the highest performing 360mm and 420mm AIOs, and it's going to get torn to shreds from a price-to-performance angle.

150$ seems like a price geared towards Noctua fanboys. 2-3 degrees is a good improvement but at that price it goes head to head with some really good 360mm AIOs (and sometimes being even more expensive).

@vestaexe2224

2 ай бұрын

''noctua fanboys'' The NH D15 literally shits on most new gen coolers nowadays and it got released on 2014. You're not special cause you don't like noctuas.

@eliadbu

2 ай бұрын

@@vestaexe2224 "shits on most new gen coolers" you can get similar or better performance than the nh_d15 for less than half of its price. I have no issue with noctua, but I have issue with bad pricing. 150$ is way too much.

@David-on1mr

2 ай бұрын

@@vestaexe2224I have a h150i 360 aio. Would be the same price I paid for the aio to buy this. Interested to see how it performs against 360 aios when it comes out.

@eliadbu

Ай бұрын

@@vestaexe2224 no it's not, see the Thermalright phantom spirit less than a half than NH-D15 giving similar if not better performance. It's not that I don't like Noctua - it's I don't like overpriced products. Unlike fanboys or haters I don't have any strong feelings for the company, I look for performance first and value. Noctua aren't special in terms of performance with current cooler, and the price of 150$ is not justifiable. Such cooler should cost 80-90$ max .

Love Noctua. Had 4 of their coolers, 2 hd15s, hd12a and one of their first single tower coolers, sold 1 hd15 with a PC and using the second 1 in my main PC, the 12a is in my second PC. Also got 10+ Noctua fans, from old 10+ years old ones to the newest and strongest 3000 rpm ones. All that said 150$ is too much. In my country the hd15 new in store is 150$+ and I already was unwilling to pay so bought 1 used for 50$ and 1 open box for a bit under 100$ but that is the max I'm willing to pay and the new hd15g2 will be 200$+ in my country so unless I find 1 open box or used for under 100$ i'll stick to hd15.

Άρη καλησπέρα από Θεσσαλονίκη επειδή ούτε Steve από GN ρώτησε αλλά ούτε και εσείς προφανώς γιατί το ποιο σημαντικό είναι το price to performance. Θα ήθελα σε παρακαλώ πολύ όταν θα βγει το review σας να αναφέρεις και άλλα specs πόσο ram clearance υπάρχει με τους καινούργιους ανεμιστήρες Συνεχίστε την εξαιρετική δουλειά χαιρετισμούς στην Ερη 🙏

Great, thank you !!!

Or just buy a Thermalright cooler that can match that performance for under $50. But PC Master Race loves wasting money.

@HardwareBusters

2 ай бұрын

I hear a lot about Thermalright coolers. I seriously need to find some to test once I return from Computex and see if their performance is THAT good. For sure, the NH-D15 G2 costs a LOT, but I have mine D15 for many many years now and it is still running fine, and Noctua keeps on updating the mounting hardware, so I can STILL use it.

@ailluinthethyra6139

2 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters Thermalright released mounting Hardware for LGA1700 when it came out so it shouldn't be an issue moving forward. Even their profile coolers that are directly mounted to motherboards got new backplates for LGA1700. Deepcool, Scythe & ID Cooling also released new mounting kits for LGA1700 for older coolers. Updated mounting kits for new platforms isn't an exclusive by Noctua anymore so they really need to step up their game for their asking price. The multiple base finishes seems to be a desperate move to gain 1C for very specific test cases(think AMD pushing their 7000 series up to 95C out of the box and Intel not caring about long term effects by how much they spec their i9's recently) and charging $100 more because they were over budget in R&D. Sure it's great for some nerds like us that would like to see how much you can push traditional heatsink cooling but it's impractical in today's economy. See Scythe being able to lower their prices while still making incremental gains with every iteration of their coolers.

@mlxoc712

2 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters Try a Frost Commander 140, and you won't be disappointed.

@eliadbu

2 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters also the phantom spirit 120 is a great option.

@PadPoet

2 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBustersI have like 10 of them. All of them are great and they are also great value for money.

The price in my opinion is too high for an air cooler even if it is noctua dh 15 G2, for this amount of money u can easily buy an AIO And why are they not making them in white color that orange color is not sthg anyone likes in my opinion.

@Erksah02

2 ай бұрын

u can buy an aio and 2 t30 / apex metal for this price

Noctua has now become another example of "perfect is the enemy of good".

If it's indeed top performance, I think the price is worth it and I'm interested in getting one (currently with a nh-u12a)

dimensions of the product? Since I remember that the Noctua NHD15 Gen 1 had certain problems with the height of the RAM memories, is the new version taller to be able to place taller RAMs or is it still the same size?

@HardwareBusters

2 ай бұрын

we will know more once we have review samples, later into this month according to Noctua

It was about time for a new Noctua air cooler. Although 150€ is a quite high price. But still if it is even better than its predecessor, it is a valid option.

Well, depends on how you define top I guess, but I think overall the benchmarks show that it's a disappointment. That a 2 1/2 year old existing competitor (Thermalright PA) with 120mm fans @higher RPM actually beats Noctua gen2 on max speed dB cannot be overstated. With 140mm fans, it's fairly likely that Thermalright would straight up beat Noctua gen2 in most aspects. That definitely falls way short of the expectations after a decade of engineering. Noctua didn't have to blow me away, they just had to show a clear performance advantage coupled with their brand rep. But as it stands the performance increase is not clear at all, and that's just not good enough for such a massive price difference.

@HardwareBusters

Ай бұрын

Till I finish all tests, I cannot comment on its performance. My full analysis will be out into next week, after running countless tests in a thermal chamber, and with Powenetics hooked up to evaluate everything. Temperature alone don't say anything.

Its not about performance its about reliability. My noctua fan is running 10 years later

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noctua lost it . desk fan and now this. i dont know how much their r and d cost and i try to help local companies like arctic noctua etc but this is ridiculous.

$150 air cooler that's ugly as hell. At least package them in a more aesthetically pleasing form like what Deepcool is doing 🤣

He has no idea who his talking to lol

@Ex14

2 ай бұрын

If Eris was just a youtuber I would agree, but as a company that even collabed on/has a PSU, I'm sure he knows it from cybernetics rating

@grigeri394

2 ай бұрын

He knows!Jacob is a friend since long time ago!

@PadPoet

2 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he knows