As important as this is, I’m blown away by how little information is out there on the throat size of nocks. I’ve even emailed some manufacturers, with no luck, asking about the size of their nicks. It seems like it should be as important as the arrow ID information.

THANKS A BUNCH!!! Checked fit on my Gas string of the 4mm microlite nocks and they are tight, some more than others. The lighted nocks actually fit looser and tried 3 for target practice and at 20 yds all bullseyes, 30 and 40 yards vastly improved. Can't believe I have been battle=ing this issue this long!!! YOU DA MAN!!!!! Blessings

Keep this content coming such easy to understand explanations.

Your videos are the best i have ever seen, Thank you John !!

Good teaching segment here. As I learned the hard way, you can have a $0.10 component screw up a $25 arrow. Many dont realize it. Bonus tip, inserts will do the same (screw up the arrow) with broadheads if youre not paying attention.

I can not believe you did this vlog... Over the weekend I was tuning and sighting in and experienced a a "tight" nock throat shot, that went off to who knows where land.. I was stunned... worse. When I nocked on, and I heard the snap. The little voice in my head told me "that ain't good". But I went through with the shot. I had pin adjustment thoughts that pushed forward. I should have slowed down and checked if the nock was biting down or just kissing... this resulted in a lost arrow. John is 100% correct... Throat fit is critical... I learned the hard way

John's content has been fire ... nerding out on these details

Thanks Mr. Dudley, I always wondered about nock fit

Thanks a lot. Please keep making these kind of videos. Very informative

You Definitely put out the most helpful information in your videos there's several videos you have done the past few weeks that i had no idea my inconsistent shooting was caused by very minor issues after watching your videos i was able to fix it thanks you for taking time and sharing videos like this!

Very cool vid John makes total sence. Keep up the awesome content bow season starts here in NH 9/15 just around the corner. Time to order some NE arrows. 🏹👍🎸

Awesome stuff!! All my questions and concerns from the last vid or two on this topic are now answered!! 👌🏼🙏🏼

@SheepdogConservation

10 ай бұрын

@jcarry5214 here you have it! In depth video on our previous questions!! 😎🤙🏼

Exactly what i was looking for, good job John.

Great information. Going to check this tonight.

Thanks for showing me my ignorance! Only about 5 years shooting and never heard this, saw this, or shown this. I've been fighting grouping since having bow restung. Yep, nocks are too tight.

Dud is the man!!! Thank you buddy!!

been strugling tuning a new bow, groups are a bit spread out at 50. just checked my nock fit and its way too tight, great video again.. gonna swap those out and see how it goes.

Very good - thanks :)

Great video. Funny I was just putting new center serving on and went with the smaller serving. Have you done a video with the different D-loop materials?

You can buy nocks from other manufacturers that'll better fit your string. Right now i shoot goldtip shafts but the nocks and inserts are from someone else. Just make sure they fit the shaft properly.

Would to see a video on D loop length for different releases and what’s to short and what’s to long.

I've used always Beiter Hunter nocks. Whether thin arrows with pin or 23 aluminum for indoor: the width and high is always the same.

I'm loving all your videos lately!

I have been shooting the Easton 6.5 with the standard (green) nocks with my Elite Envision and factory strings. 58lbs, 400 spine. Nock is too tight. I used a 3/32 drill bit and a single layer wrap of 320 grit sandpaper and gently by hand (no drill) sanded just the deepest part of the nock. Followed up with a few passes of a thin strip of green scrubby to polish it. For me that seems to work.

I had to use a .10 serving to get my Easton nocks to fit. Factory bow string.

I have a huge pile of lighted nocks ill probly never use again because of the fit, and the extra weight. Wasnt able to get the foc i wanted with the total weight i desired.

Is there at any point an issue with removing material from the nock throat to fit the nock to the string rather than replacing center serving to fit the string to the nock? When I say remove material (no, not with a Dremel) 800/1200 grit emery cloth. I understand the importance of them all being the same weight, the same surface finish and structurally safe enough to be launched from a bow. Curious your thoughts on this.

That is why my serving is wearing. The nock snaps on too tight but the throat fits good. So if I went down from .021 to .018 should work?? 🎯 better??

I have to do my center serving. Where i got my Levitate. The "bow tech" had my serving splitting from the d loop he tied. Ive been told multiple times from them that theybdont have time to do it and tune my bow right now. They told me to make an appoitment to come in after i shot a few hundred arrows after getting it. And how he tied the Dloop is completely sideways compared to my peep. Pretty disappointing.

Great info , but chasing variations in knocks with serving? what if there is variation in the brand you like?

I even told the shop that built my new string what nock I was using and gave him a narrow and it still came back too tight. Question, now if you're going to use a lighted nock but practice with regular nock and they're not exactly the same would you rather have a tighter fit on a Easton X knock then perfect when you go up to a lighted to hunt or would you rather it fit perfectly on an X nock but be a little loose on the lighted?

These small details are all too often overlooked in bow setup. I love your content and am especially impressed with the current series on arrow flight and factors that affect it. Very interesting and enlightening. Thank you !

Nock fit is so essential to consistency

Would to tight of a nock fit allow your string to go past an offset string stop? I have a bear paradox, and after my shot the string is on the front side of the stop, I replaced a with anew rubber same thing any ideas what is causing this?

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On the nockturnals my serving fits perfect on the outer nock notch, on the inner notch that activates the light, it’s more snug. Which notch should I base serving size off of since the string ends up in both upon release?

Question, so to not have to be changing serving every time you change from lighted nocks to regular ones, should you just stick to .018?

@nockonarchery

10 ай бұрын

It works for booth depending on string. Otherwise a .021 no tail under

But remember everyone you have to do this on your own very few archery shops will do this for you and I’m wondering how many of those people that talks about investing their money and making so much money in a week are filling their freezer with the animals they harvest 🤔

Dumb question, but is there any benefit to minutely widening the nock to get the proper fit? I get that I’d be messing with a delicate tolerance that could weaken the nock, but if you’re careful would it improve the arrow flight? I acknowledge this isn’t typical decorum. Appreciate the feedback.

@EDDAHLEN

7 ай бұрын

I’ve done it without issue. Just have to be careful, it really doesn’t take much.

Nothing beats a good worn in Beiter or pin nock. Could never really afford to swap nocks. Just wore mine all in. Swap them in practice and have a bunch of extra pre worn in nocks for damage control. I will say that it did create the flat spots and that’s something I have never considered chasing, had too much to chase in my form and mental/biological control. I think it’s definitely something that all bow hunters could benefit from though. Most don’t own a bow press and I’ve seen some crazy D loop angles and peep rotations. With that much twisting preload in the string, it has to be applying a torque to a tight nock on a flat string. I will say that I always press bows a dozen times to get that D Loop perfect with a perfect peep. Now I want to reserve all my flat strings.

@gageadams2587

10 ай бұрын

Does beiter make a nock for a 4 mil?

@jrhunt414

10 ай бұрын

@@gageadams2587 not sure. I know Beiter makes G nocks and X nocks if those fit. My archery brain doesn’t work in metric. Not sure when all this millimeter stuff started. .166 is a G nock. .204 is an X nock. I’d highly recommend ordering a Lancaster Catalog. It has everything in it and has lots of charts and tables.

@gageadams2587

10 ай бұрын

@@jrhunt414 I've got one. I'll take a look

How about the Easton Sonic 6.0

Shouldn’t a bow shop be telling people these things or is it up to us to educate ourselves?