In Europe, you could sell that thing for $6500 easily 😂

@ChaosCauses

Жыл бұрын

It's not fair!

@SkriLLex22525

Жыл бұрын

@@ChaosCauses Europe is my city and i work for team 10

@w7vno

Жыл бұрын

@@SkriLLex22525 what the

@syno023

Жыл бұрын

@@ChaosCauses So true, DRZ400SM are selling for 6500 in my country. And they are 2003 models! 20 years old!

@PeterR0035

Жыл бұрын

hmmm, easily??? Don't think so; on autoscout24 Europe there is 1 zero mileage 2020 FS 450 for sale for 9250 euro so a 2018 FS 450 with more hours, would go for a lot less... Some SM 450's on the site sell for 2500,3000,4000,...

I've always found putting a bike back to stock and parting out accessories yields the greatest returns on reselling.

@roddas26

Жыл бұрын

This^

@Kraken9911

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Aftermarket Parts don't add value and I'm willing to die on that hill.

@pacopet1234

Жыл бұрын

115% agree with this. Aftermarket park doesn’t add reliability. It only tune it to the owner liking. Hence why you should never pay extra for modified part

@T3-RIDER

Жыл бұрын

I did that to my ktm I sold last week, the dealership gave me a extra £200 for taking it back to stock 😂

@kuhndj67

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely... sellers often price their mods at near retail and most buyers don't value them at all... but I don't think he's done much to the bike so that shouldn't be too much of an issue for him. I think the biggest issue he has is it's not street legal (which he mentioned).

The biggest problem is that (at least in my country) if it is not registered it cannot be carried on the street and that is why the registered ones are sold for the same or more price, and thats why yours cost more to sell.

@MillennialYoutubeAdventurer.

Жыл бұрын

That is so true, here in Finnland registered supermotos price are insane. Just sold 1 week ago my 2005 ktm exc 525 for 5000€. And 2008 KTM 125 EXC are still in 6000-8000 with over 1 000 hours on them. If it's not registered its worth of nothing like 1800€ to 3800€ and plenty of use marks.

@HeyAddieImTojo

Жыл бұрын

You can’t even legally reg fs450’s in sweden. Exc’s or FE450’s can. But not FS.

@joski9030

Жыл бұрын

Easily registered in U.K. as for the hours unplug the fuckin meter 🤦🏻

@DJIInLondon

Жыл бұрын

@@joski9030 He does :D

@nicolasa.3192

Жыл бұрын

This is the way it is in Canada. We can't even make our own supermotos from dirtbikes, it must be at the very least converted from a dual sport since they have an on road registration

If I saw an FS450 for sale near me for $3800, I would buy it without a second thought. I'm in the states and could make it street legal pretty easily so it would live the rest of its life as my wheelie machine. That being said though, it is weirdly hard to sell sumo converted dirt bikes stateside as well. Way too many people would rather have a heavily used, oil leaking DRZ for $5-6k rather than a cleaner, lower mileage WR or CRF 450 (despite reliably making literally double the horse power and weighing 80 lbs less) for the same money. I think people get scared away by the maintenance intervals in the manuals, while in reality you can easily triple or quadruple the intervals safely for a bike serving road duty.

I’d keep riding it man if people only want to give you so much then ride it until it’s only worth that much. You wanted to wheelie and this bikes crashes better then any other street bike put some protection on it and keep ripping the track man! I’ll watch it anyways 😊

@ellwoodwolf

Жыл бұрын

They don’t want to ride it, for the same reason he doesn’t want to ride it, and they don’t already have money tied up in it like he does, so why let his problems be your problems ? And pay for those problems ?

What are your local steps to make it street legal? Go through those steps add any cost to plate it to your base price. It will broaden the customer pool alot.

@adrianeng2084

Жыл бұрын

this in south africa and all i can say is good luck

@moorepower13

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianeng2084 it may be a big effort but low cost kinda thing.

@imiphilipp

Жыл бұрын

@The Old Husky Then say "Hello" to Germany 🤣

@reegyreegz

Жыл бұрын

​@adrian eng cops barely stop bikes here, what are you talking about. Just the other day i got pulled over because the cops wanted to check my bike out and talk about motorcycles. Fk out of here

Having owned a couple off supermoto's based on a Husqvarna, I always started with the enduro version. They sold like hot cakes because you could ride them on the street. I even did some commuting on them. Fun to ride to work this way.

my guess is because its not street legal is why its not selling. nothing wrong with a track bike, but in my opinion the biggest draws of a super moto is going out on the street with friends hooning around. as far as hours,there's many people who have gotten 500+ hours with nothing more than regular maintenance.

As a novice Supermoto rider I think you should keep it! Try to learn a bit more about this awesome riding style and technique. You will be amazed by how much it can improve your overall riding as a motorcycle rider, and how much fun it is to chuck it hard a corner or just hoon in the straights. Keep enjoying this great beast of a bike and, keep producing high quality content 🔥

With the way our Rand is going... It's best to just ride it until the whees fall off 😂

In my experience a to good to be true price also raises flag. Had a bike up for sale cheaper than most because i had my eye on another, raised the price to the regular level and it was sold in a week. People work in strange ways.

Put a light set on it and street ride it! I converted my KTM 450 SMR with lights, wiring harness, flywheel and cover, plastics, all KTM parts and it was licensed for the street. The most fun bike for the street you can have!

Keep it, I personally would love to see more Supermoto Content (exploring-,stunt-, upgrading-, content is awesome) Consider watching Backpack wheelieboyz as Inspiration!

Keep it boet. Just keep at the track riding, you can only refine your riding skills. and youv'e made some awesome content with it. respect on all your videos!

I can relate to this, in a way. Last summer, I traded my 2004 Yamaha R6 for a 2004 KTM 450SMR. The R6 was my first bike, was in very good condition for its age, and came with a spare parts engine. There was absolutely nothing wrong with it. I took the 450 on the track ONCE, and something started going wrong with the engine. I found a local mechanic, dropped it off, and was told a few days later that the clutch is completely shot and needs to be replaced, and that the crank bearings are shot as well. So, I traded my perfectly good R6 for a 450 that now needs $1,500 to $2,000 worth of work done to it between parts and labor. I ended up selling it. I've been given a $1,000 deposit and the other $800 will be given when he takes possession of the bike. I really want to fix it and ride it, because I have a lot of small tracks where Supermotos are the perfect machine, but I don't have the money to repair the bike, and actually afford track days this season... So, I made the choice to sell it and I'll ride my track bike, a 2014 Ninja 300 instead (which is still an excellent bike). It hurts though because now I don't have anything to ride on the street either, having traded my R6. The 450 is street legal and could've been used for some street riding too had I wanted to. Live and learn, I guess.

@jimgordon3468

Жыл бұрын

You are an idiot. KTM . Why would you do that?

@suomiman100

Жыл бұрын

This is normal. Its super important to have all the receipts or services recorded for these bikes. I see you went in blind to supermotolife. IMO its still worth it.

Cool honest vid, kudos to you bud!

You hit the nail on the head with how niche these machines are. I also have a 2017 FS 450 and I absolutely love it coming from 4+ years of racing mini moto. The FS 450 seems to even confused the standard, street legal supermoto crowd; For example they're completely perplexed by a 16.5" front tire and that it's supposed to have a new piston every 60hrs. You could make an FS 450 street legal, but why with an engine that is so expensive and high strung? For me, it's also an expensive toy that I also use for track coaching, so I guess the best thing to do with an FS 450 is to make sure it's a business expense lol.

That’s why I love street legal 2 strokes.

I built a 450 RL Super Moto around lockdown for something to do. Rode it around for a few years and decided to sell it this winter with about 3,000 miles on the clock. Took me about a week to sell it. The key is to keep every part you took off and send all that down the road with the bike. Also understand the bike isn’t “worth” more because you made it a Sumo.

I got myself a 155cc pitbike with slicks for track riding, 2nd hand with 30 hours on the clock and I would not think of selling it. I will be riding it, breaking it and repairing it until the repairs get more expensive than buying a new one. Sure it is a pricey toy, but the fun you get out of it outweights the fear of putting more hours into to it sell it. I see it as an escape once or twice a month to do something different than just riding in the street to and back to work and the occasional mountain route. Yours is a keeper.

Love this vid .. I total can relate to everything your saying and have a very similar experience myself ..

I wanted a fully built super moto in the UK but decided to go for the KTM 690 smcr due to the worry of service times and reliability. For what I mainly ride it for I have piece of mind that when I head for the twisties and pop the clutch I know it's getting me home afterwards. There will be a buyer for it but maybe try to enjoy it while you still have it

Try taking the 847 numbers off. A blank canvas might be more appealing.

If you like the bike, keep it. We enjoy the content regardless, and it's interesting to see how you progress with owning it.

I feel this exact feeling with my 2020 DRZ 400 SM

"I almost got my knee down once" made me laugh. I feel that and if it was a road legal bike in my country id buy it for 4k for sure and sell my current bike.

If you offered another set of wheels with dirt tires would that open your buyer's usability to facilitate a quicker sale? Like a Swiss army knife of motorbike? Use it here, use it there... You can use it anywhere!

Yeeaaay a GIVEAWAY video!!!! Yessss love those.

in poland theres few motorbike mechanics everyone tells you to work on your bike or bring it to a car mechanic

@d1zguy864

11 ай бұрын

It's so easy to do though. Need very minimal amount of tools and little space

I love seeing people puzzled over the zar, makes me haha hehe out loud

@ChaosCauses

Жыл бұрын

Perks of having a strange currency!

trying to sell my zxr 400 is also a niche market........ its 31 years old, im right on the new border of londons new ULEZ expansion and a 400cc pocket rocket is a toy :( plus everyones bills have gone up so even looking for a new bike im seeing crazy price drops...... buyers market unfortunately

If you can get it to the track often enough, keep it but don't give it away lol! Super nice bike.

Once I was selling a bike for 2 years. It was big 1800cc cruiser with 360kg. I got literally 2 calls in 2 years. So I was happy to go down with the price :D

I think you should always do what you want to do! When it comes to toys, i consider the money spent, not invested! Sure, it would be smart to maybe buy a supermoto that could also be registered for road use, more potential buyers, more potential fun. Use as Sm / dirtbike / enduro / roadbike.

In the uk every rider that races supermoto do a full rebuild at 50h it would struggle to sell because it has only a piston on the service history

I had a Husky FC350 with 80hrs. it was beautiful and meticulously maintained but no one would buy it for a reasonable price. I was getting offers 2k under listing (listing being 6700CAD) in 2022

Can confirm. Have a set of sm wheels for a WR450 collecting dust. Had to convert the WR back to an enduro to unload it. Buyer wanted nothing to do with the sm wheel set

In Puerto Rico. There is no problem selling motorcycles. It’s a huge thing here. With limited supplies. Prices are healthy here.

Looks like a nice, fun bike. Maybe add some lights & whatever needed to make road legal, including road tires, and keep it for fun local trips & as a backup for when you're main road bike is out of action? Or simpler: just keep tracking it!

I sold a 2014 KTM 125SX with a new top end but making questionable noises when revved, for $3900 the cheapest 2017 KTM 450 near me was $5000 which I almost bought but ended up with a 2018 CRF250R instead. The fact that you couldn’t sell that for $3800, I would just keep it and rider it forever.

I got the same problem with my Suzuki GSX650F , the best bike for daily rider that i owned. But in my Country (Germany) this bike is non polular to the young riders. I stuck with it for now 3 months. I will not sell it for a low ass price because it is not worth it for what the bike can do.

LMAO, you mentioned Raid Shadow Legends and I auto skipped forward, only to reverse back when I didn't see a massive click hump to see you were joking.

My local repair shop, won't work on Huskies

Absolutely, 💯 percent keep it.

south african zar, bought a couple cars and quads from SA. Picked up an 05 Blaster 200 for 700 euro there. The same quad i sold for 2.1k back in ireland

I want it, I just can't buy it😂

Most 400cc supermotos I see are on sale for roughly for around $5k-$6k. Idk how much of them actually gets sold for that much. I think you're right that it's the practicality of it...

I have the exact same problem with my Husqvarna FC350 2019. It's been listed for over 6 months now and no one wants to buy it.

It's got a 16.5" front wheel which makes you only able to get track wheels. And it's not street legal which is probably why. In the US you could easily retitle it. So it comes down to location

In the UK it would sell in half an hour at that price, problem for you is there just isn't much of a supermoto scene in south Africa

keep it man!!!

How much would that be in €? And in which country is this bike located?

Your channel is the best.

you can ride slicks on asfalt no problems, don't see a problem with SM demand. Put on michelin Road 5 tyres and you have a fun street bike.

@Chaos Causes I would say keep it and maybe convert it into a street legal supermoto if that’s possible. Or just do fun stuff with it like jim_Khama or occasional track days. Either way, I would enjoy any video you create with this bike.

Last year I bought a 2019 FS450 and I love it. It's the best bike I've ever had. If I were you I'd keep the bike and enjoy it especialy if you also have a street-legal bike.

Its a really cook bike but the specific use case really limits it. I'd say keep it for now, do some two-wheel karting and when someone makes a good offer you can let it go!

I've heard of Rand, thank you very much.

How much less do you get in South Africa if you trade it in at a dealership?

In germany every 2nd teenager wanted to ride a supermoto. Awesome prices here for these bikes.

Got a mate in the western cape willing to buy it asap 🌟 let me know 👌🏽

My mum says I'm a great mechanic, so it must be true.🤣

keep it and ride it on the track!

The only reason i would not but it is because its not Road legal, like an Ktm exc og husqy fe, but Luther then that, its a nice bike

Market and timing...Starring at a 2022 FX450 sitting on a stand in my living room

It took over a year for me to sell my husky tc-610 in the states.

It's a shame, I really wanted it. In Taiwan this price is very good value. But the shipping cost to Taiwan is also very expensive, I'm afraid. Taiwan's racing regulations are also unable to use in general roads (general roads must have directional lights brake lights rear mirror)

i have a OLDER KLR and a ninja.......i always wanted too get a Supermoto of some flavor then i remember dirtbikes are ungodly and unless i want too buy 2 sets of wheels chains and sprockets i'm not gonna get that dual use i want sure i could run the high ratio on both wheels but it'll be sluggish and slow on the road or run a lower ratio on the dirt it'll be high sped and have no bottom end for any technical riding i'd understand the Supermoto thing if i lived in a bigger city and just wanted too do some low speed wheelies but apart from that there MEHH at best.....

That is a sweet looking bike. Good luck with the sale of it. If that bike was for sale in the US, that would be sold extremely fast.

The other guy you bought it from, might have thought.. "Oh finally someone bought it"

Ride it dude, you only live once. Gooi!!!!!!

All the supermotos ive sold i put back to dirt and parted the SM parts and usually got more money......

Ride it bro!

Cool bike, but ya, that is a niche track only machine. Even the street legal 690 SMC-R is a little hard to sell. It sucks, but parting it out would be a way to get the most out of it. Somebody wants that engine...

I've had my MT-07 for sale for way to long too. It's a really good looking bike with great Gilles accessoires, low KM's, price is a bit lower than average MT-07. But id just doesn't sell... WHY?!

Supermoto's are always going to be a harder sell in the general market. They're a purpose built bike for aggressive riding with minimal practicality. I'd focus more on off-road/racing/gymhkana forums. There's a lot of supermoto riders out there, but they're generally in more focused communities.

Send it to Dallas and I can get it sold for $6000. I have a 2021 MT-09 with 3k miles listed for $8500 can’t even find anyone to even get an offer!

As a local person in SA the problem sits with the availability in parts. I'm actually struggling to find parts for my bike. I've looked at your bike over and over and I'd love to take it off your hands it's just that money in this country isn't available .

@keegansanderson9148

Жыл бұрын

What would add is if it was a Supermoto that was road legal aswell. Adds alot of value.

Ive been checking it out on marketplace, waiting and hoping my wifes freeride or yz125x sells then im getting a motard, maybe yours

Just found the same model for sale in denmark for about 25k$ 😂

Id happily buy it off u if u were in England still I’ve been looking for one to move forward in my supermoto riding I am currently on a 190cc pit bike but I’m looking for bigger and better

Prices is insanely low, would hav buy it right away ! Sold my SMR 450 2008 3 moth ago for 3400 euros... Had naturally let rebuild the engine for 2k 120 Hours ago... Sold it because too expensive to ride. So think that the bills made the selling prices

my 08 r1 has been for sale for nearly a year only offer I had to ask to get was 2800

I'l take your supermoto ! .... I am joking of course. Beautiful bike!! Already have my A1 license (125cc) and going to have my A2 license in a bit :)

@ChaosCauses

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you're ready for a 450 lol!

@lucasgarcez3358

Жыл бұрын

@@ChaosCauses thank you, love your videos! I have been saving for a suzuki gs500, wich is a really cheap motorcycle, but a good ons from the reviews I watched. Really excited to start riding a higher cc motorcycle!

Keep it mate sumos are awesome you'll miss it if you sell it

in canada it would cost around 10k to buy that thing

You bought it to enjoy. While it’s still in your sight and make you feel like riding it. Go and enjoy. It’s beautiful machine. Here in Australia you pay registration on every vehicle you own to ride. I would have garage full of toys if it doesn’t cost me anything while sitting in garage.

I think you should keep it, and if you do keep it, maybe look into getting flat track rubbers on it. Personally i think sumos are cool, but very useless, sure, you can ride them on the road and hoon them, but a dirtbike is made to go off the road, and slicks or road tyres cant do that, but flat track tyres can. Basically it will just be a lot more usable, and prolly more fun since you can ride it on dirt too

where are you located?

You will make more than $3,800 worth of content with it, there might not be high demand for a SuperMoto, but trust and believe there is high demand for SuperMoto content

In Japan, 6000 with this condition of the bike is a bargain. Wish I could ride it home lol

it isnt selling because either its a sm and there myb nobody really wants it or nobody wants track only one, street legal ones tend to sell 10x faster Where i live most track only sm are up for sale for very long time

I ve got the “16, bought for 6k but with accessories on and 20h

I had a problem trying to sell a yamaha xt660x, endup up getting titanium arrow silencers for it and also installed a stunt cage, rear subcage and then someone stole it

@glennllewellyn7369

Жыл бұрын

It looks great in my shed.

I'v got a really trick 2009 KTM 450 smr for sale but can't sell it for sh*t.

Money is tight for most people at present time. But in U.K. prices are going through the roof on bikes. And most everything else.

Wtf!!! In Norway they go fore $11000 and up

Would buy that rn if u shipped it to my country. Prices here mad high

I ride my supermotor every day to work even in Winter

Keep ittt!!!