How I admire Noam Chomsky, although I do not agree with all his political views, but I sure do respect Noam Chomsky. What a marvelous, fair, brilliant man he is, we are lucky to have him as one of ours.

@AymanB

7 жыл бұрын

Admire but don't agree? That's rare. Just out of curiosity (don't want to initiate a debate), what don't you agree with?

Incredible, this talk, this man, Incredible

"Government is the shadow cast by business over society" Interest quote for a dissertation.

@usernameryan5982

Жыл бұрын

Utter bullshit, it’s the shadow of business that it takes forever for me to get a building permit? That there’s massive corruption in public services? That they deliberately have shitty infrastructure and shortage of housing driving people into poverty? You’ve been listening to this senile retard for too long with no connection to how the government operates

@PappyMandarine

Жыл бұрын

@@usernameryan5982 Don't be so short-sightened. The quote is not meant to explain in specific terms the apparent misery of your existence. Rather, it aims at reframing what the common man, just like you, thinks of the State apparatus. The idea is that the government is chiefly at the service of business, specifically the biggest corporations that run the economy. The interests that the State serves are not those of the people (you may include yourself in that - which is why you don't receive your building permit or whatever), but at the service of the interests of the wealthiest entities in the country (for they get their building permit with a snap of fingers). That also explains what you call "shitty infrastructure" (despite the fact that the United States have one of the best infrastructure network in the world), and more relevantly the "shortage of housing", etc. By the way, the senile retard is one of the greatest linguists of the 20th century, and a fantastic, sharp-minded thinker all around.

@usernameryan5982

Жыл бұрын

@@PappyMandarine compared to GDP, we have piss poor infrastructure, I don’t know how else you could display your ignorance. And no, there may be government officials who have been caught taking bribes or favoring big business, but the main interest that government has is enriching itself. And why should I care about what a linguistics professor has to say about politics? You can be brilliant and one field and an absolute buffoon in another and Noam Chomsky is no different

@PappyMandarine

Жыл бұрын

@@usernameryan5982 Okay, Noam Chomsky is a buffoon. Sure enough, he's taken very seriously by Michel Foucault, among thousand of intellectuals, but since your majesty says he's a buffoon, I guess it must be right.

@usernameryan5982

Жыл бұрын

@@PappyMandarine ha, you want to talk about authority when that’s all you can appeal to in defending his ridiculous political ideas.

If the oligarchy takes our money, shame on them. If they take our freedom, shame on us.

@HeathWatts

4 жыл бұрын

Those who control the money also control freedom. The Supreme Court's Citizens United decision in the U.S. will allow all freedom in the U.S., and ultimately worldwide to unfurl. In addition to their wealth, the rich own the elections in the U.S. Unless capitalism is brought down, we'll eventually revert to a feudalist society where most of us are either serfs or slaves.

@ikeman9784

4 жыл бұрын

Freedom means absolutely nothing without economic resources. Just look at black south Africans they've got their freedom from apartheid yet the whites kept all the money. Now they kill and harass other poor African immigrants looking for who to blame for their poverty and wretchedness...

Relevant now

What are the common wages of labor, depends everywhere upon the contract usually made between those two parties, whose interests are by no means the same. The workmen desire to get as much, the masters to give as little as possible. The former are disposed to combine in order to raise, the latter in order to lower the wages of labor. [12] It is not, however, difficult to foresee which of the two parties must, upon all ordinary occasions, have the advantage in the dispute, and force the other into a compliance with their terms. The masters, being fewer in number, can combine much more easily; and the law, besides, authorizes, or at least does not prohibit their combinations, while it prohibits those of the workmen. We have no acts of parliament against combining to lower the price of work; but many against combining to raise it. In all such disputes the masters can hold out much longer. A landlord, a farmer, a master manufacturer, a merchant, though they did not employ a single workman, could generally live a year or two upon the stocks which they have already acquired. Many workmen could not subsist a week, few could subsist a month, and scarce any a year without employment. In the long run the workman may be as necessary to his master as his master is to him; but the necessity is not so immediate. [13] We rarely hear, it has been said, of the combinations of masters, though frequently of those of workmen. But whoever imagines, upon this account, that masters rarely combine, is as ignorant of the world as of the subject. Masters are always and everywhere in a sort of tacit, but constant and uniform combination, not to raise the wages of labour above their actual rate. Adam Smith The Wealth of Nations BOO YA CAPITALIST MOTHAFAKAZ!!! geolib.com/smith.adam/won1-08.html

This man is a BRIGHT STAR! ❤️

What a Brilliant Talker. ❤

Every so often, Chomsky just makes so much sense. And this was, what? Twenty-five years ago?

Thanks, Noam for showing me how insidious and evil the world really is.

@lorenzomcnally6629

Жыл бұрын

Death by Left Wing Marxist Fascism....... .....120 MILLION souls killed in PEACETIME for "Socialism." LAST CENTURY. ITS CALLED "DEMOCIDE." IT MAKES ALL WAR AND FASCISM PALE IN THE MASS MURDER SWEEPSTAKES OF ALL HUMAN HISTORY. KILLED BY MARXIST SOCIALIST ECONOMICS IN PEACETIME BY THEIR OWN LEFT WING MARXIST SOCIALIST CITIZENS AND GOVERNMENTS. ASIA RUSSIA EASTERN EUROPE LATIN AMERICA AND AFRICA. KILLED BY FORCRD LABOR STARVATION AND DISEASE. Over DECADES OF TIME. "GULAGS" OF MARXIST/ SOCIALIST ECONOMICS AND PURVEYORS OF ENDLESS CLASS WARFARE MARXIST SEMANTICS. NOAM FUCKING CHUMPSKY, HOWARD ZINN, MICHAEL PARENTI, RICHARD WOLF. NOAM CHIMPSKY IS ONE EVIL SOB. HIM AND HIS ANCIENT CAVE MAN INTELLECTUAL POS ACADEMIC RICH WHITE LIBERAL DRONGOS. MARXIST DEATH CULTS OF SOCIALIST UTOPIAS IN HELL.

I was an urban planner...so my job involved encouraging massive public participation. It does seem like the fatal flaw in the system. The results of public involvement can be channelled into something acceptable to the powers that be, but sometimes not entirely. This is something that has potential...but the truth is that is sometimes very difficult to get people to even come to a meeting. Daily life is too demanding.

@alexmekuria748

3 жыл бұрын

Their daily life, marked by disciplinary obligations of wage labor, of crushing debt, of living expenses and the like, not enough time and leisure to cultivate and understand themselves and the world around them to ensure active participation. I know another urban planner who wrote about this stuff named Lewis Mumford. Don't know if you'll see this, but his work is definitely worth looking into

what year was this sounds 80s

@Johnsmith99663

5 жыл бұрын

Smizoke Mizark Probably mid to late 90s, since he mentions the Oklahoma City bombing.

Unfortunately, right wing nationalism has spread throughout the world since Chomsky gave this talk.

@ikeman9784

4 жыл бұрын

Yep cos the rich keep sucking up the resources and the working poor from Europe to America are looking for people to take out their frustrations on...

@naveed210

3 жыл бұрын

ike man the right wing nationalist euphoria taking place is strange. A search for identity from people suffering with an identity crisis? In the U.K., our so-called “conservative” voters are extremely shallow. A lot of the left wing critique of the Johnson voters are mainly motivated through the stereotypical ideological prism. On a lot of the social/philosophical issues, the Johnson/Brexit voters are a lot more left wing than conservative. In fact, I’d even say the lefts emphasis on individual freedom has given rise to a libertarian government rather than conservative. True conservatives detest Johnson.

@coopsnz1

3 жыл бұрын

Social democracy countries failed middle class

@HeathWatts

3 жыл бұрын

Ben Chesterman Evidence? Wages for the US middle class have been stagnant for 40 years under capitalism. . www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/

@coopsnz1

3 жыл бұрын

@@HeathWatts same as Germany and Australia the social democracy countries

This is a pretty even-handed and reasonable critique of the American radical libertarian right and what makes people turn to their ideas. Very scientific and human to not demonize right wingers or try to "unperson" them but instead to try to understand where and why they're coming from, what are the social and material conditions that made them feel their only option was these ideologies? But the irony of Noam criticizing libertarian rightists to me though is that Noam leans toward anarchism himself right? I don't see how that is that different from the people he's talking about in this video, except maybe that they emphasize traditionalist conservatism/primitivism more (maybe that IS a huge difference and I'm underselling the divide here). Also I couldn't help but notice that he says Timothy McVeigh is "supposed to have done the bombings" at 0:35...hmmmm, sounds like Noam is TRAFFICKING IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES AHHHHHH HE'S BAD, HE'S A BAD GUY AHHHH. Lol maybe I'm inserting my own paranoia into that quote, but man you gotta admit the way he phrased it to say "who's supposed to have done the bombings" instead of "who did the bombings" it certainly sounds like he's casting doubt on the traditionally accepted narrative around the OKC bombing. Dangerous game, Noam.

@ridicule1313

10 ай бұрын

You gotta look deeper into what he’s talking about by his definition of anarchism. Anarchism runs the gamut of left to right and can be both capitalist, socialist, or somewhere in between. Look up Chomsky’s Libertarian Socialism I believe there’s a 30 minute video of him discussing what his anarchist society would look like

Tim was a profesor I’m not sure what he’s getting at

@simonw560

Жыл бұрын

McVeigh was a soldier and security guard. Are you thinking of the Unabomber who was a math prof at one point?