No, Dancing in Church Is NOT Biblical | Voddie Baucham
Voddie Baucham makes the case that dancing in church is NOT biblical… In this video, Todd Friel interviews Voddie on whether or not it’s a sin to worship the Lord through moving your body.
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Jesus Christ died for my SINS. I will dance for that.🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺
@benjaminculbertson2388
3 ай бұрын
Come On!!!!!!
@jalennelson6008
2 ай бұрын
I know that's right. Twerking no but I will dance. It's called decent and orderly
@Elijah8890
17 күн бұрын
…and end up in hell for that
@georgio3753
17 күн бұрын
@@Elijah8890 if that is the judgement of God then rightly so. Most people confuse their feelings for God's so.... He'll let me know
I think we have to distinguish between dancing because we are full of joy and jumping around to loud emotional music.
@richardtowne6771
Ай бұрын
Joy is emotional. Someone once wrote an Ode to it.
David's dancing was an outward expression of praising the Lord,it was done in the right context, dancing for the Lord in the right context is not wrong at all but one should not do so in a disruptive or provocative manner since God is a God of order,it is tricky to differentiate between dancing motivated by the Lord and his presence and dancing motivated by the flesh especially when the music is good,God judges both our actions and motives, we should check our motives when dancing for the Lord and make sure that our motive is to honor and glorify Jesus, when praising keep your mind focused on the Lord
@svensvenforkedbeard170
Жыл бұрын
Amen agreed
@YoungIrishgranny90586
Жыл бұрын
Yes Amen That was an excellent comment!
@godschildyes
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Very well put.
@Christopher_J
Жыл бұрын
This is spot on I feel. Well expressed. All glory to God.
@Robert-xn3dc
Жыл бұрын
What a load of garbage!!
Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.
@SGOV86
2 ай бұрын
Amen! But the thing is that dancing in church should not be done as a performace like giving a dance show and dancing in church should also not be considered a ministry.
@zealoftheLord
Ай бұрын
Yes yes yes
@dabo357
Ай бұрын
@@SGOV86 . Yes you are right.
@ferventheat
17 күн бұрын
Ps 149v3
@mariachristina9029
10 күн бұрын
Dance was actually a musical instrument that David also played. Go do the research and you'll find out. Also the way Gods people danced back in David's time was completely different than nowadays.
I mean, Christians can disagree in some point but should always agree on the Gospel of Jesus.
@rc59191
Жыл бұрын
Lol these zealot types will fight with anyone about anything. If it brings you any sort of happiness they just say it's a sin and will look for any sort of bible verse that they can twist to try and justify it.
@DaughterOfChrist1997
28 күн бұрын
Amen!
The man healed in Acts 3 went into the temple walking and leaping and praising God over a physical healing. Salvation is the greatest miracle, so I want to leap and praise in worship even more!
I will never stop shouting and praising God in church or out of the church building!
@simonedishelle6720
Жыл бұрын
Not even if The Holy Spirit convicted you?
@svensvenforkedbeard170
Жыл бұрын
@@simonedishelle6720 The question I now have to ask is why you are trying to convict them?
@jimj78
Жыл бұрын
@Sven SvenForkedBeard he said Holy Spirit.. why are you changing his words around?
@svensvenforkedbeard170
Жыл бұрын
@@jimj78 I didn't, examine the question in context
@kennyl9419
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a dancer, but I'm never offended by those who choose to worship the Father in dance.
When God does something for you that's so lovely and beautiful doesn't matter where you are yo shout praise God even if you're alone
There's always a balance in everything that we do.... Dancing for the Lord is not bad but taking it too far is bad.... The Lord delights in what we do to praise Him from the bottom of our heart.... If we really dance for the Lord and led by the Holy Spirit..it will never be too far.... God Bless
@SGOV86
2 ай бұрын
Amen to that! What I am against is when one person or a group are dancing in front of the church while the rest of the church members are sitting down and watching like watching a dance show.
There’s nothing wrong in dancing in church for God. The problem is when people take it too far to show their dance moves.
@ryanbrown4053
Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly this
@daughteroftheking3220
7 ай бұрын
Exactly everything should be for God’s glory appropriately
@pastormp78
3 ай бұрын
😂😂 that is s problem
David danced because the Ark of the Presence of the Lord was back in their midst! How much more should we, the people of God, dance when 2 or more of us are gathered in His Name?! His presence is with us!!!
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
Why are you listening to these two Calvinists who preach a satanic false gospel
@SGOV86
2 ай бұрын
I do agree. What I dissagree with is when people are giving a dance performance in church. You know. Like all the rest of the people are sitting down and 1 person are a group are dancing in front like giving a show.
@Butterfly04able
2 ай бұрын
@@SGOV86I agree, worshipping in dance is one thing, but performance in the flesh is for attention
@SGOV86
2 ай бұрын
@@Butterfly04able exactly.
@SGOV86
2 ай бұрын
@@Butterfly04able dancing in church should also not be used as entertainment.
Yes, you can dance for the Lord and before the Lord. C'mon children of God! Praise the Lord with shout, voice, singing, dancing and every other gift that He has bestowed on you🙌🙌🙌
@maximustrump
Жыл бұрын
Who says
@beeLife07
Жыл бұрын
Paganism getting into churches
@Huckleberry68
9 ай бұрын
Dancing isn’t a gift
@benjaminculbertson2388
3 ай бұрын
YEAHH IM GONNA DANCE LIKE DAVID IN THE STREETS FOR THE LORD
Dancing has always been a form of worship in the Bible. People look for a scripture that gives specific permission for everything they don't like but don't apply the same rules for things that they do regularly. Where in scripture are we instructed to sit stoically before the Lord?
@simplyroyalty7458
Жыл бұрын
Right! Even when the Lord brought the children of Israel out of Egypt. He told pharaoh let me people go so they can have a party/ feast/festival in honor of me in the wilderness Exodus 5: 1-13 God loves singing and dancing , celebrating in his honor there is no doubt to me about that .
@Huckleberry68
9 ай бұрын
@@simplyroyalty7458No .
@peterschelenberg1008
6 ай бұрын
Wasn't Mary quietly sitting by the feet of Jesus christ while listening to him teaching?
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
Listening to the preaching not worship
@therealkingbaldwin
4 ай бұрын
Not in the temple or synagogues. Those are very orderly and spontaneity was not in the equation.
To hear this guy say "bust a'move" and "get down with my bad self" was one of the funniest thing I've heard all day.
You can dance anywhere at anytime for the Glory of God so long as your heart is right before God. Agreed some people abuse that, but we’re not the Holy Spirit, He judges that!!!😊
@jimj78
Жыл бұрын
If the Holy Spirit is in us, he can give us power to judge. That's why the Bible mentions for us to hold each other accountable
@chandraharris690
Жыл бұрын
Where is that in Scripture? Sounds like that's just how you feel.
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
Amen
@keithzengeya5604
5 ай бұрын
@@jimj78 there is a difference between correction and judging, if i said you did is wrong im correcting you but if i said what you did is wrong and call you a bad person i have judged you
I watched this video year ago (I was charismatic) and this made me upset to a great degree. But listening to it today as a Reformed Christian, with the understanding that verses should not be divorced from their context; understanding the sovereignty and holiness of God, I pretty much agree with Dr Voddie
@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea
Жыл бұрын
That doesn’t mean that dancing in church is not permissible…
@OpenMawProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea It should not be encouraged. People who shout out and dance and make a scene are drawing attention to themselves and away from the whole point of being in church. To hear a sermon, think on it, and most important of all to worship God. And yes, it is clear as day that many of those people are attention seekers.
@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea
Жыл бұрын
@@OpenMawProductions I think those who are attention seeking is different than those who are worshipping “in Spirit and in Truth” as the Bible calls us to do so. Worship is the most important part of church.
@OpenMawProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea Yes, worship is important. Drawing attention to yourself by shouting out in the middle of a sermon, or standing up and acting a fool in dance and disrupting the entire church, is attention seeking and should not be encouraged.
@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea
Жыл бұрын
@@OpenMawProductions I think we are in agreement then. During singing and worship, however, as long as you’re doing it in genuine worship (God knows and can see your heart) then I don’t think there is anything wrong with worshipping in dance.
Never quench the Holy Spirit...enter into his courts with praise..let no one dictate how you should praise and worship the Lord...so long as it's not 'fleshy' - and if it is fleshy that's between you and God AND other true worshippers with the true Spirit of God will pick up any false spirits.
Imagine the singing, dancing, praising, hallelujahs when we see Jesus returning to fetch us!!!
I’ve been in church most of my life (starting at the age of 10). In my opinion, dancing in this 21st century is done as “showmanship.” The church is dancing as a form of spirituality. In other words, if you can’t dance or don’t dance, you’re not spiritual or even a Christian. It’s done as a form of entertainment. David was not in a church!
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I'm noticing a concerning pattern. The church has become so overrun by liscentiousness, that now a lot of teachers are pulling so far away thay they're bordering or crossing into legalism. We see all these "pastors" saying "Do whatever you want! God understands!" and we recoil and correctly discern that to be wrong, but in our efforts to "not fall victim" to liscentiousness, we stray into legalism. I think it's a good reminder that it's not any better to be a Pharisee than it is a Prostitute. It's just as serious of a sin to put extra-biblical restrictions on people as it is to encourage people to sin. Isaiah 29:13 "The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught"
@user-gx4wi4cv2m
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a good comment.
@revenge425
11 ай бұрын
I agree wholly, but is also true that is better to be wrong on the side of caution. If I am wrong in not dancing I just missed a couple of moves that i could have busted in church, If I am wrong in dancing I have been displeasing the Lord in my worship my whole life.
@nikkowood7465
10 ай бұрын
@AdamFontenet-iy3tb Because it's not sound Biblical discipleship if it isn't rooted in the Scriptures. Paul absolutely discusses things that are not allowed in church, not once does he ban dancing. It would be solid Biblical discipleship if the word of God commanded us to obstain from dancing in church, but it doesn't haha So people who take that position have no Biblical ground to stand on, they are simply imposing their own feelings on the Church. I am not saying I think dancing in church is great, but what I am saying is that we have freedom in Christ and it is legalism to put man-made, unbiblical rules on other believers based solely on your own personal feelings. I would say we all have to pray for discernment and be willing to accept the truth, regardless of if it agrees with our position or not.
"Praise Him with the cymbal Praise Him with the dance Praise Him with the shofar Praise Him with your hands Praise Him with the timbrel Praise Him with the harp Praise Him with the drum and the flute Praise Him with your heart" - Hallelu et Adonai by Ted Pearce/ Paul Wilbur If you're dancing solely because YOU want to, you're doing it disruptively, if you dance because Ruach Ha'Kadosh moves you to, then by all means, dance your dance of praise and worship.
@OpenMawProductions
Жыл бұрын
That's not Biblical teaching.
@jojijosette5946
Жыл бұрын
J Ritt, that is a poem or a song. It was written by man. It's not in the Bible.
@hummingbird_saltalamakia
Жыл бұрын
@@jojijosette5946you think all of God is confined to a book? When God is infinitely above us and our feeble minds aren't able to comprehend all God is. Praise, worship and dance are all mentioned in the Bible. And I'm afraid you don't determine what God finds acceptable to Him.
@hummingbird_saltalamakia
Жыл бұрын
@@OpenMawProductionsI didn't claim it was. God is far more than just the Bible. You don't get to determine how the holy spirit moves people.
@reignofelohim
11 ай бұрын
@@jojijosette5946 This is in the Bible. It’s Psalm 150. “Praise him with the blast of a ram’s horn; praise him with harp and lyre. Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and flute. Praise him with resounding cymbals; praise him with clashing cymbals. Let everything that breathes praise the Lord. Hallelujah!” Psalms 150:3-6
If you are really dancing for the Lord, and not interrupting the service. But, really dancing for the Lord. not, just dancing like you feel like it, or because you are happy. It comes down to the heart.
@Zaudejis
Жыл бұрын
The heart is a wicked thing.
At church, I've always been quieted in awe of God. Privately at home, I've danced a lot, but it's not a show. I can dance like a twerp and God doesn't care.
@sirennoir258
Жыл бұрын
YES! At church I have my choir steps to the beat. Not at church I'm going buck wild
@user-co2li1vd5d
15 күн бұрын
Yea ok, personally I prefer a black church where they get real excited and not a catholic mausoleum
When the anointing of the Holy Ghost hits you. You will dance in church I have many many times over the 39 years that I've been in church. Sometimes it's hard for me to walk to get in church I have problems with my legs but when the anointing of God hits me the power of God. My feet come off the floor.
@cuprunnethover2509
Жыл бұрын
Me too Sis Janette. Its a wonder if my wig don't come off! 🤣🤣🤣 be blessed!
@janettenorton3832
Жыл бұрын
@@cuprunnethover2509 thank you God bless you
@dl6321
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by the anointing of the Holy Ghost "hitting" you? When you accept Christ you receive the holy spirit then correct? I don't personally care if people dance but the Holy Spirit isn't a sensation or something that hits you from time to time. I may be misunderstanding what you mean by what you're saying but it sounds like you're idea of the Holy Ghost is something that is a feel so good I gotta dance feeling and that reduces the 3rd member of the Trinity to something that alcohol does for some people..ie When the whiskey hits me I just dance in happiness and also (makes it hard to walk)
@janettenorton3832
Жыл бұрын
@@dl6321 I'm talking about praising the Lord with all of your heart. The joy of the Lord comes up on you and you speak with other tongues. Like the word of God says. There is no feeling in the world no alcohol no drugs can take the place of the Holy Ghost and the way he makes you feel. I know been there and done that. I wouldn't trade the Holy Ghost for nothing in this world. Nothing in this world could ever even compare to him. You won't know what I mean till you get right with God and get the Holy Ghost, and evidence of speaking in tongues. God bless you.
@britt6560
10 ай бұрын
Test the spirits as Jesus Said. Pray for discernment and most of all the Holy Spirit is peaceful and likes no loves order! No chaos. Please fellow Christians read the WHOLE Bible!
Yes, we can dance as worship to our Lord
It is written to praise the Lord with dancing in the 149 psalm . Some versions it may be also in the 150 psalm.
@ArroEL922
Жыл бұрын
Big problem here with this type of exegesis: "Let them praise his name in the dance - במחול bemachol, with the pipe, or some kind of wind music, classed here with תף toph, the tabor or drum, and כנור kinnor, the harp.” מחול machol,” says Parkhurst, “some fistular wind-instrument of music, with holes, as a flute, pipe, or fife, from חל chal, to make a hole or opening.” I know no place in the Bible where מחול machol and מחלת machalath mean dance of any kind; they constantly signify some kind of pipe." Adam Clarke. So no, these two verses you refer to have NOTHING to do with dancing.
@beepeejayj865
Жыл бұрын
@@ArroEL922 actually the word ‘machol’ that’s used in Psalm 150 does mean dancing, not some kind of pipe. That same word is used in Psalm 30:11 where is says, “ Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing (machol): thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness.” It wouldn’t make sense for that scripture to say “thou hast turned my morning into some kind of pipe.” Please read the scriptures for yourself and depend on Holy Spirit to help you understand, instead of trusting in man and their interpretations of scripture.
@ArroEL922
Жыл бұрын
@@beepeejayj865 You are still incorrect. I don't know how well you know Hebrew, but for me, I know absolutely nothing about this language. So I have to depend on the experts. And THEY have different opinions. So yes, I need to use the God-given capabilities I have, with guidance form the Holy Spirit. In Ps 30:11, that word is use as a gerund while in Ps 150, it is used as a noun AMONG SEVERAL MUSICAL INSTUMENTS. If I were to ask an 11-year-old to pick out the one work that is out of place in the following: "Psa 150:3 Praise him with trumpet sound: Praise him with psaltery and harp. Psa 150:4 Praise him with timbrel and dance: Praise him with stringed instruments and pipe. " he/she would pick out dance, as it is out of place as a verb but totally correct as another musical instrument.
@beepeejayj865
Жыл бұрын
@@ArroEL922 Lamentation 5:15: The joy of our heart is ceased; our dance (māhol) is turned into mourning. The same word is used, this time not as a gerund. According to the “experts” this would translate to “The joy of our heart is ceased; our ‘wind pipe instrument’ is turned into mourning.” That wouldn’t make any sense.
@ArroEL922
Жыл бұрын
@@beepeejayj865 Are you depending on the etymology only for the meaning of a word? Isn't context more of a factor to be taken into consideration? All I am saying is that in Psalm 150, that word does not mean dance (as in bodily movement) but a musical instrument, whatever it may mean in other context ( some of which are unclear). No, I don't know Hebrew and do depend on what the experts say. I listen to what they ALL say, and then allow the H.S. to enlighten my mind to make the distinction. God bless.
i absolutely LOVE Voddie!!!
Praise the Lord ! I didn’t know that you could praise the Lord with dancing until the Spirit of the Lord fell on me and I began dancing in a church that I was visiting . I was shocked that I was dancing . I didn’t know what was happening to me . I was the only one who broke out dancing . A pastor who was also visiting the church came up to me after I stopped and asked me who was my pastor . He said he was not trying to steal me from my pastor. I didn’t know it was in the Bible to praise the Lord with dancing when it happened to me
@anthonyholley2796
Жыл бұрын
OH YES, Make a Joyful Noise unto The Lord and shout and dance before Him!!!
@BurningTheLife
Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea
Жыл бұрын
@@BurningTheLife scoffers …
@danielsan9850
Жыл бұрын
@@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea no, not scoffers. There’s a time and place for everything. In church, you are in the presence of Almighty God, not at some party house. If God himself came to you in physical form, you’d fall on your knees and beg him to show mercy. Show some respect.
@MasonHatfieldLogorrhea
Жыл бұрын
@@danielsan9850 so are you saying that David was irreverent in the face of the Lord ? The Bible even says to Praise his name in the dance. Now I agree that not every service is a shouting and dancing service but to say it has no place in the church is not Biblical. I have scripture for my argument ? Do you ?
They need to read the Bible properly you can dance for the lord David danced before the lord and when his wife chastises him he rebukes her read the passage
That is a clear example of worshiping God through dancing of Joy. You cant manipulate that man. I will dance, shout, sing, because he saved my life!! Period!
I love true teaching straight from the Bible! Now a days people don't teach based on the Bible. They based their teachings on their opinion. May the LORD keep on fulfilling those who fear HIM with his Wisdom and Peace.
I really enjoy the rapport between these two❤❤
If the Holy Spirit is moving you to dance in church then dance
Man, then why did Yah give us the ability to dance? What is dancing for if not for praise?
@Ty.k1ng
7 ай бұрын
💯
@peterschelenberg1008
6 ай бұрын
Our god even gave us the ability to sin! So it is for praise? You should patiently read what apostle Paul wrote about it.
@Ty.k1ng
6 ай бұрын
@@peterschelenberg1008 no, Adam and Eve gave us the ability to sin by eating the forbidden fruit. This is nowhere in the Bible that God opposes us to dance. Dance is a form a praise. You can’t tell people how to praise either. Our connections to God is a personal experience. Some of you Christian’s are something else
@inascookie8535
Ай бұрын
@@Ty.k1ngAdam and Eve didn't give us sin, THEY committed sin by eating the forbidden fruit which makes sin possible in the first place. Please read the bible again
@inascookie8535
Ай бұрын
@@Ty.k1ngGod is the one that gave us free will to sin but does that make it okay to sin? Heck no.
Psalms 150:3-6 Psalms 150:3-6 Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! Let everything that has breath praise the LORD!
The ark is the God's presence..the holy spirit...the king is God so...we do have!
@BronzeTheSling
Жыл бұрын
That's right! Well said!
This is such an amazingly sweet interaction between these two brothers! 😢
😉👍Very nicely well done and executed very well indeed guys and I had a very fun time watching this indeed👌😅.
Voddie my dear brother in Christ, The reason why David didn’t dance in the church is because we are the church. I’m surprised you didn’t get that
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
Yup
@Josh_E2405
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nice joke So the reason people go to church on Sunday is ? 😅 Relax man He was referring to the worship that take buildings called church ... Let's not change the goal post
@stevenogle2661
3 ай бұрын
@@Josh_E2405, it’s because Roman Emperor Constantine changed the concept and turn into a rule while calling buildings the church. it’s not a bad thing to go to a building but essentially that’s just a building and we are the church of God.
I love Voddie. Man of God.
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
Calvinism is a false gospel
Wow, what a terrible answer. It’s not that specific verse that gives us permission. As people saved by the redemptive blood of Christ our freedom to worship rests in the Holy Spirit.
I love Voddie so much.
@daughteroftheking3220
6 ай бұрын
Same and Paul Washer seriously they are honorable and genuine men of God. The way they talk about their wives and family gets me the most. We need more men of God like them.
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
He preaches a false gospel
@observingcat9049
5 ай бұрын
@@kM-ij2lyHe preaches Jesus Christ death and resurrection and atonement for sin. There is no other Gospel!
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
@@observingcat9049 He preaches satanic calvinism ie that God chooses people who are saved which is demonic
@kM-ij2ly
5 ай бұрын
@@observingcat9049 No he does not this is a lie. He never preaches the Gospel. He thinks the idea of being born again is daft. I have asked him myself when he was showing off someone has become a Christian in his ministry. I asked him has the new Christian been born again. He told me this was a daft question. Bob also believes you can lose salvation which is a lie from hell. The other point is ecumenical ideas is not only unbiblical but illogical as the different church denominations have different beliefs in salvation which is the gospel!
If David who the Bible that was inspired by the Holy spirit calls David “a man after Gods own heart” and a “mighty man of valor” danced in the presence of God I think dancing in church is fine. God created music, God created rhythm and if the holy spirit is moving in someone and they respond by dance I don’t see the problem.
I dance in church. I don't even like public attention. Sometimes I don't even want to stand up, but God has done so much for me, and sometimes I feel moved to stand up and worship. I don't want eyes on me, but I silently talk to God and say, "It's You and me," meaning I'm not putting on a show for anyone. It's just me and Him. Sometimes I'll even just close my eyes and sway.
Church services should be orderly. Dancing decidedly has a tendency to be disorderly. The fact that someone can prophesy does not mean he should interrupt the preaching with prophecies or speaking in tongues. Paul was careful to make that a point.
"Let Israel rejoice in their Maker; let the people of Zion be glad in their King. Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp." - Psalm 149:2-3 Be careful not to throw burdens on people that God is not burdening people with. The Pharisees had "justification" for forbidding healing on the sabbath
All for His Glory. Each should pick his own way of worship. If you enjoy dancing, then do it for His Glory. If you like to lay down on the ground to worship, great. If you kneel and throw your hands up, then wonderful. Do what you want to worship the Lord. The problem lies where people feel they have to do something because everyone else is doing it. Or people make you feel bad or that you don't have the Holy Spirit because you don't worship like them. There is the problem. Because then who are you doing it for?
Love these guys! But check this out Halal - primarily a Hebrew root word for praise. Our word “ hallelujah” comes from this base word. It means “to be clear, to shine, to boast, show, rave, celebrate, to be clamorously foolish.
David was very connected with God and feeling spiritually emotional and trying to please God is how I see this scripture
Psalms 149 .3 says to praise God in the dance
David danced before the Lord with all his might! 😊😊😊
Its really sad to see so many Christians arguing over this and believing we can know what is in each others hearts. Its also sad that some men are talking about women dancing in church "distracting" them. Just close yours eyes and focus on God. Worship is definitely not about watching other people to see how they worship or what they're going to do. David danced before the Lord on a road, Miriam and a bunch of other women danced and sang before the Lord on the other side of the Red sea. Okay so these were not churches. Does it matter? I don't see how when the church building is not the temple of God you are! I'll dance for joy because God redeemed me and set me free! I'll dance because God sees fit to live and dwell inside me. Why should the enemy be allowed to have dance when God is the creator? The joy of the Lord is my strength is it yours? Does dancing fill you with joy? Do you think it fills God with joy to see you enjoying life and all the things that He has given us?
Psalm 149 & 150
I’ll tell you this, I was in The Assembly of God church for 20 years of my first marriage & I could not accept all the hoopla & hollering, running up & down the isle, flipping flopping all over the floor & hearing all this mumbling & gibberish they call tongues. It was the hardest thing to go through but I did it because at the time because I thought I was doing what God expected me to do by following my husband at the time. Knowing what I know now, I wished I never spent on day of my life in some of those demonic spirited churches. Today they are call Charismatic Movement, Prosperity Churches, claim it and name it churches. If your in one of these, RUN for your life & NEVER LOOK BACK! It’s NOT a true church!
@jimj78
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You need discernment to tell if it's spiritual or not.
@jaqtsonfromthemist
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Everyone says to run and everytime I ask why no one tells me why. In my view I could be wrong I'm new to the faith forgive my ignorance but shouldn't we help our brothers and sisters see the truth?
@edsona.7430
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You’re supposed to speak in tounges
@MrRicoruiz
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I agree with you I was raised in a Pentecostal church since a young child I was set free from the charismatic beliefs when I became a adult and left home
@chandraharris690
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@@edsona.7430 Says who? The Bible doesn't say that.
Everything to be done decently and orderly when worshiping collectively not to bring insult to god or that assembly . papa
I usually agree with Voddie, but i think he did not make his case at all when pressed on the issue. I dont believe we MUST dance in God's presence, but i believe We're ALLOWED to dance in God's presence.
1 Corinthians 14. All things decently and in order
I'm reminded of the song, who's lyrics are written as follows: "I will dance, i will sing, to be mad for my King, nothing more is hindering this passion in my soul And I'll become even more undignified than this Some will say it's foolishness..." It's a great song. I was whooping and hollering because it was a great time in praising God. It's hard finding a church that does that today.
@jojijosette5946
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Who wrote that song? Man. Who wrote the Bible? It's God's word. I would take instruction from the Bible, rather from a song written by man.
@chandraharris690
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@@jojijosette5946 Well said.
@markleclair4182
9 ай бұрын
Psalm 150…
@Huckleberry68
9 ай бұрын
Bibles are free in most churches and since you’re in a comment section in KZread I’d imagine you have a device of some sort and internet Bible gateway is a free online Bible .
@SamlSchulze1104
9 ай бұрын
@@Huckleberry68 I have the MySword Bible app. A Bible app that has bibles going all the way back to Wycliffe, Tyndall, and the great vowel shift in over 20 languages. It has books and essays written by the most influential commentators of Christianity. I don't need another Bible app telling me how to follow God's commandments and the faith of Jesus.
I’m not even a Christian and I figure this is obvious. Dancing is a valid form of worship for the Lord, but it’s not necessary to do if you don’t want to? Like I didn’t even think this was a question
@remmy100
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I think it stems from ppl dancing for dancing(s) sake. Not as an overwhelming expression of joy from the Holy Spirit.
@ramoth777
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Only Jesus can save you from your sins and Hell! Not religion!
@azophi
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@@ramoth777 I’m pretty sure following Jesus and/or his father is a religion mate He has some very specific things he does not like
I have a crazy idea, why don't we let people praise God the way God leads them to whether that is quiet prayer or joyful dancing.
Yes feelings are deceiving emotions can effect how you react threw tribulations
One of the greatest gifts bestowed upon me was to have my eyes opened to the fact that Jesus has a sense of humor. Awesomely funny, I laugh until I am out of breath. I try to keep it in check, and my foundation is always taking Him seriously. But it is a form of loving him with all of my heart, my mind, my soul. My strength manifests by how all consuming my joy and laughter can be!
Do all you do unto the Lord. Let the Holy Spirit lead.... He is very capable. Outward expression of worship is throughout scripture. Yet there is order... Not mans order but Gods order.
Praise him with the timbrel and dance praise him with stringed instruments and organs. Psalm 150:4
Self-appointed judgment and legalism are not the ninth and tenth gifts of the Holy Spirit.
We are not dancing for ourselves it’s about giving all glory to God in a form of worship.😅
Wretched radio is cool :)
@Vitamortis.
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hi itzdime lol
Dance away everybody, God is love! Don’t be a hater killjoy in church, if you don’t wanna dance that’s your cup of tea, just don’t try to kill my joy, thank you very much!
As long as the emotional response is in response to truth and celebration of God working, I believe dancing, shouting, weeping, clapping etc. is biblical. Just let truth lead the way rather than manufacturing emotion and hoping that the truth catches up. Dancing doesnt have to mean being in the aisle or being distracting (which many conservatives automatically believe it always is) but I would propose that it can mean that depending on what is being celebrated! You may agree with Voddie…that someone getting saved might elicit dancing… but do you ever do it!? Do you ever response emotionally and just praise him with abandon? I‘ve been in many situations that conservatives were not in the habit of raising hands, clapping, moving their feet (bc it wasn’t a part of their tradition/culture) and I believe that they are missing out on a part of the spiritual relationship with God. Emotion is a part of our earthly life so why should they avoid it as a godly response to the Most High (who has done exceedingly more than any earthly sports team, job, relationship etc. could do)?
Love this!
The letter kills but the Spirit gives life !
As someone who goes to a non denominational church that’s really Pentecostal, I whole heartedly agree with Voddie’s explanation of this.
Me I don't dance AT ALL. Dancing is just something I don't do. I grew up in a charismatic church and they made it seem you are required to dance to praise and worship God. When in reality, dancing is a permitted act of worship by God. Every time I went up to the alter, to "dance", it NEVER felt real. Same goes for slaying in the spirit. The relationship between Jesus and I seems to be more focused and serving. Thing is a lot of Christian think there's a one sized fits all relationship with Jesus when in reality Jesus know exactly how to win everyone's hearts. Personally. Just Jesus and you. I've come to conclusion that Jesus loves me, I love Him and our relationship is beautiful. Seek Jesus people. It would help you a ton.
Though it is an embarrassing site my fellow church members have broken out into a conga line on two occasions during our last song.
When I think about Jesus and what he's done for me and how he set me free, I can dance dance dance all night!
"Narrative is not normalative -except when it fits our theology."
Psalm 149 says , Praise the LORD. Sing to the LORD a new song, His praise in the ASSEMBLY of HIS FAITHFUL people. Let Israel rejoice in their Maker, ler the people of Zion be glad in their King Let them praise His Name with DANCING and make music to Him with timbrel and harp For the LORD takes delight in His people, He crowns the humble with Victory..... As long as we're dancing unto the LORD, saints, let's dance our clothes off. But more importantly let us live lives worthy of our calling
Love love LOVE THIS MAN!!!!! THANKYOU for always teaching the TRUTH VODDIE…. ✝️🙏✝️🙏✝️🙏✝️
@oxajenwashere
9 ай бұрын
Show me where dancing is against the bible
The real question to me is what the context is inside the church. At our church there is a special worship service once a month in addition to regular services. It is nothing but music, performance, some speaking and baptisms, etc. Some dance there. It is a “party” and time for frivolity. In the regular services it’s a time for thoughtful and serious-minded reflection. I think this appropriate.
There is dancing in the spirit and dancing in sin. David was not in the temple but worshiped God through dance. I will bless the Lord at all times.
Nice
There are times for everything. David pleased God. He was not ashamed of God. And he showed. He was dancing in the spirit to God. Not of the flesh unto the world
Let them praise his name in dance. Psalms 149:3.
Is this even suppose to be an argument? What nonsense! Enter into his gates with Thanksgiving and into his courts with Praise.
Dance all you want! You don't need Voddie or anyone else to tell you what you can or can't dance about in worship !
Huge difference between dancing to the Lord and a worldly dance that brings attention to self..
No joy allowed says the "reformed baptist"
Just going to leave this here: "Praise his name with dancing, accompanied by tambourine and harp. 4 For the Lord delights in his people; he crowns the humble with victory." Psalms 149:3-4 I also can't help but see a racial undertone to this. The Reformed/Calvanist is traditionally European and Male. In contrast, the black church (& brown) has long been demonized for our more expressive worship styles, specifically by certain white faith traditions, not because its actually wrong but because it does not fit their cultural preference. This is something to take note of, especially because Christianity is not a European faith. I think Calvanists often forget that God is also Spirit and supernatural in addition to caring about theology.
I am so glad he added the context. It is kind of odd to me that these churches tell people it is ok to dance in church but do not allow parishioners to dance (tastefully) at a wedding.
I feel like the people who want church services to be a rigid three songs sung with little emotion and absolutely no drums or electric guitars or the like probably have never truly read the book of Psalms
You it’s funny how people can always find justification to do something without God’s approval. Who is the number 1 worshipper of all time? Who worshipped God the absolute correct way without blemishes. Right the Son of God. But, we are going to imitate a form of worship from a man who was a murder and adulterer. I see why most Christians can’t overcome sin. The Bible says follow and mark the perfect and upright. How about following Jesus Christ as our model of worship. He never dance, ran or laughed out load, screamed, and every other type of emotional behavior. The way of the cross is a changed mind, not emotionalism. I feel sorry for this weak and perverse generation. They hate scripture, they exult personal relationships over the truth of God’s word. Every thing with this generation is what I personally believe and my convictions. Let all you be liars and the Bible truth. God said, he is looking for true worshippers, not form and fashion. “If the Spirit falls on you” please, that’s the music and the charisma of the singer and preacher. Soon as some of you get a bad report, all the dancing go out the window, soon as your money dry up , where is the Spirit now? Your spouse cheats on, kids disrespect you, your whole life is a mess, God can’t pay you to dance. Going to church saying pray for me. Emotionalism has no power over Satan, dancing has no power over the dark things in this world. But a change mind. God wants your obedience not your emotional outburst. The land is sick because of all this foolishness in America. Same sex on a all time high, public schools teaching kids about pornography, the government is crooked. And you all talking David dance. And where did that get David, sadly since this event in David life, you see a slow downward decline of David. He numbers the people, which the Lord hated, he married multiple wives, which the Lord said not for the king to do. None of his children were raise godly, we know the story of Uriah and how his own son conspired against him, and the list goes on and on. David life did not end how it started. I am not going in on David, I am making a point, you don’t look to men on how God is to be worship unless they are perfect and upright. Look to Jesus, the Author and finisher of your faith. What if David would had built the temple without asking God. So is everyone that give God worship he never asked for. Start with seek you first his righteousness and trust me, that is move than a dance or praise. Holiness or Hell…you decide
@monicasmith7758
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Well said. GOD BLESS YOU.
@J.C.1
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AMEN AMEN & AMEN 👊🏽💥
@brice6018
3 ай бұрын
Man I'm late for this but, Jesus didn't need to shout and be emotional because he was the one dying for people sins, if you can't get emotional..overjoyed, shouting to praise his name idk what to tell you. Do you realize what he went through so that we all might live. People tend to focus on him being nailed to the cross, but what about the emotional pain of taking on all our sins even though we are not worthy? That's reason enough to shout and praise his name!!
“And David “DANCED” before the Lord with all his might….” ~2 Samuel 6:14~ “Let them Praise the name of the Lord in the dance… ~Psalms 149:3~ Now, this is NOT DISCO DANCING OR SLOW DANCING WITH A PARTNER OR AS A COUPLE OR POLE DANCING! This is what the Jews did and still do, IT IS ALSO written in the Scripture, so you CANNOT SAY IT IS NOT BIBLICAL. Although it’s not a “MANDATORY” PRACTICE, you cannot condemn those who do it in holy praise.
Read Psalm 150 and you will learn to worship God by dancing!
I just l-o-v-e Voddie Baucham! In the OT it tells of how King David, among others, danced as he rejoiced! It never says he was in a church building dancing! Was David sinning because he danced as he felt great joy in his spirit?! NO! He was not sinning!
There are different types of dancing. "Busting a move" in dancing usually means "showing off" in dancing, which means bringing glory to the self, not Christ. The question is what is "wholesome dancing," or "wholesome moving' to Praise Music for the LORD????
The day that I got saved, God put me in a literal trance, and I couldn't stop doing a dance in the Spirit, and I was crying like a baby.The trance lasted for 2 straight days. I have been in a prophetic ministry for nearly 30 years. I am also an endtime watchman, called, appointed and anointed by God. Whoever says no dancing in the church, don't know God in the Spirit and are carnal.
Voddies suit is 🔥
In David's time there was no church. How could he dance in church?
I do not care for this when people are discussing the joy of the Lord trying to dissect it