i love when neme left for interview everyone was calm talking about the games then he came back it was chaos. pure cinema

@intratext

21 күн бұрын

Literally the dude with the pizzas going back to the party meme

@NumbLittleOwl

21 күн бұрын

Best clip out of the whole thing

@ianlager3377

21 күн бұрын

what was the time?

@tomwanders6022

21 күн бұрын

@@ianlager3377 Its at the end, wait for it my friend. I watched this whole thing life, it was hilarious, but honestly its clearly a bit. Still a good one though.

@Walkxll

21 күн бұрын

the clip from Druttut make me laugh every time clips.twitch.tv/UgliestIgnorantAlbatrossBrainSlug-bRhlexVhWO6zGhg7

I watched this live. The excitement from everyone is so infectious! TommyG with the amazing calls. Miella increasing team morale. Nemesis and Drututt flaming Aribo. Aribo being Aribo. Cinema Tournament.

@setiajumpman

15 күн бұрын

which one is genderfluid rat in botlane?

TOMMY G CARRIED LAST GAME SO HARD WITH HIS CALLS ("THANK YOU FOR TRUST ME" - LIL TOMMY G 2024") XD

@OrdinaryApprentice99

22 күн бұрын

Timestamp? 🫡

@rubenbomba3572

21 күн бұрын

@@OrdinaryApprentice99 3:41:29

@hideokojimbo

21 күн бұрын

the real G

@vangbangmke

21 күн бұрын

Thankfully, Nemesis didn’t recall during Game 5 when Tommy wanted to get a pick on Elise at the end.

@rubenbomba3572

21 күн бұрын

@@vangbangmke literally won them the game, really good play by both of them

my bad first game...

@sebsonlol

22 күн бұрын

:/

@rybak07320

22 күн бұрын

:\

@0BLACKESTFUN0

22 күн бұрын

that ai thumbnail :DDD

@MikeTDHpt

21 күн бұрын

@@0BLACKESTFUN0 where was AI used exactly?

@gordonfreemanlaw

21 күн бұрын

It’s okay Neme, pop off game one next series ❤️🙌🏼🙏🏻

Neme my brother is it too late to convince broxah to jungle 😂

@surinaam1186

21 күн бұрын

Yea broxah is famously a really active jungler and definitely isn't known in high elo for just afk full clearing all the time. Plat peakers backseating

@adamrice7633

21 күн бұрын

@surinaam1186 he was one of the best jungles in lec bro, his Lee sin in worlds was incredible. Very much zoomer take 👍

@adamrice7633

21 күн бұрын

@@surinaam1186 they were also teammates in fnatic, so they have lots of experience playing together. Anyone who's been in the scene for a while respects the hell out of broxah

@Darloss9508

21 күн бұрын

U r an emerald... back seating a world finalist ​@@surinaam1186

@douwe3691

21 күн бұрын

​@@surinaam1186right cause thats how you play soloQ jungle, Agurin does a ton of full clears too. But it's different with Comms and broxah is definitely used to that

Aribos ability to single handly drag his team down gotta be studied

@ethosterros9430

22 күн бұрын

Gotta study it to cure it

@voidroad

22 күн бұрын

Aribo full clearing for 20 minutes on skarner just to have a 0 cs lead on an elise ganking all game is unreal like bro what are you doing ?

@GGYKY

21 күн бұрын

yamator would beg to differ

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

the dumbest thing is how he refuses to play around his strong laners, literally saying "I don't want to. Don't give a fuck who I play with. If they are so good, they will make me look good, too, anyways" and he couldn't be more wrong in everything. First of all: HORRIBLE approach to the situation. Secondly: he is just giga exposing himself for how shit he is by not playing around his better players and everyone is flaming him hahaha. This guy has trump-style derangement and it's too funny

@WhitePinkBlack

21 күн бұрын

@@bexclue3007 when your midlaner is a guy that went toe to toe with Faker and ex pro player and your toplaner is multi season challenger and make a choice to never appear on those 2 lanes,im starting to think jungle diff is in fact a real thing

aribo is good but every time he talks i wanna gp q myself

@BotlaneCEO

22 күн бұрын

In game

@Arigatowo

21 күн бұрын

Good soloQ player, bad Coordinated play player. He plays too much for himself and doesn't trust his teammates, ending up not doing anything.

@LetsPlayerAbo2

21 күн бұрын

@@Arigatowo aribo's role on the team is to absorb Drututt's flame

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

@@Arigatowo good soloq player...relative to what or whom. Compared to us? Sure. Compared to actually good soloq players? No. There are plenty of better soloq players and plenty of better soloq players who also improve (which someone like Aribo probably hasn't done in years considering he just plays with his brain switched off for the first 20 minutes and is giga stubborn with an attitude like he's never been wrong or made a mistake in his life and knows better than players who've played at the highest pro level lol) He is funny though. Literally every call he makes is so bad. "Trust me! Trust me!". Literally 5 seconds later: "NOT LIKE DIIIIS!!"..."it was a good call" (no it wasn't xD)

@adripekas9682

21 күн бұрын

@@Arigatowo literally

Guys don't check what Drututt said to Aribo when Neme first left the VC (the time he realized it was too early bc Agurin's stream was 3 minutes behind on game), definitely don't check his most viewed clip from this week 💀

@oserodal2702

22 күн бұрын

💀🔫

@WhitePinkBlack

22 күн бұрын

Deserved tbh

@jack_2612

22 күн бұрын

I just checked, worth it lmao

@mutandaeffiong2685

22 күн бұрын

Can I get a tldr? What did he say?

@haibanglol3498

22 күн бұрын

@@mutandaeffiong2685 look drututt twitch first clip xD

aribo might average less damage then support

@zezanje1

20 күн бұрын

having same damage on voli as tommy on alistar is a crime especially because tommy was used for stalling and zoning the enemy team the entire game so he literally got to cycle like 1 set of abilities per fight XD

The funniest thing is how Malice told Aribo he should focus on actually getting his solo lanes ahead who are gapping every game for free. And he's just like: "Nah. I don't care. I don't want to. Idgaf who I play with. _And if they are so good, they will make me stronger"_ Which is literally the opposite of what is happening. First of all, that attitude is as degenerate as it can get. Second of all: no, the good players aren't making you stronger Aribo. By refusing to playing around your good players, you are just giga exposing yourself for how much worse you are. Like, everyone watching these games is like: "Holy shit, perma ban this jungler!"

@martinfelipepizarro3794

21 күн бұрын

When did he said that?

@bexclue3007

20 күн бұрын

@@martinfelipepizarro3794 It was in Malice's stream. Forgot when exactly. It was while he was spectating some scrims I think. I forgor. Iirc Aribo was in chat, Malice told him and he responded with what I said in my initial comment in twitch chat

@zezanje1

20 күн бұрын

i dont remember in which game was that, probably game 3 or maybe in his skarner game where he refuses to help drututt, he dies because of it, and then asks for a hover from both mid and top just so that he doesnt lose his gromp or some dumb shit like that XD

10% talent 90% mental

tommy was easily the goated pick here. his calls won them the game

I wonder if aribo is reading comments on drutts and nemes vids, i sure do hope so.

Miella moral MVP!!!!

@Johnny_Silverhand77

16 күн бұрын

Nobody cares about moral if you're d0gshit when it comes to gameplay

Overused meme but the absolute reverse sweep was CINEMA

Drututt unleashing the pent up L9 in him at the end

hype series!!! so happy you won!!

this match was GOLD...

after watching the entire series, yes, Nemesis just seems to be depressionmaxxing

@yungslack7311

19 күн бұрын

Everyone reacts to competition stress different

Holy, just finished the whole thing & this was so entertaining

Aribo should start spamming Karthus at this rate if full clearing is daily😂

Man that this game is single elimination and only first place gets any prize money is so weird. That's such a bad way to set up a tournament.

@zezanje1

20 күн бұрын

they should have used the same format as they do for worlds

@FafliXx

20 күн бұрын

@@zezanje1 Double Elim Swiss is probably the best way to play tournaments like this.

@zezanje1

20 күн бұрын

@@FafliXx not sure what that means but anything is better than this shitty ass formad dawg

@Fotii

18 күн бұрын

But it’s not about the prize money, it’s about having many content creators collaborating in a semi competitive environment and most importantly to have fun for the players and audiences

@FafliXx

17 күн бұрын

@@Fotii Yeah, but I am mostly talking about the format. That people spend weeks scrimming only to get eliminated after one series? That also means those creators are out and not collaborating anymore, and just go back to grinding soloQ all day.

What a banger series!

this was so hype live

The comedic timing of Nemesis returning to call with Drut shouting is just gold

There's a song playing at 2 hours 39 mins, anyone know the name? It's driving me insane I used to know the name

@Nemesis yo bro great performances, the Syndra game was hype but the plays you made with Asol had me and all my friends jumping :)

is chat on delay?

holy reverse sweep, that was a tough match, shame they had no ADC for that one game :(

great series to watch, extremely tense and nice grit in the end. Just one request for next time: could you maybe sync twitch chat to the live game? It's not very fun with that big delay in the stream! Thank you and continued success to your team!

BANGER 1st day holy.

Respect to Team xPetu ggwp

Damn neme out here mewing now too

@limittestresearchinstituti5801

21 күн бұрын

Yup lookin devishly handsome 😮

I love drut+nemesis duo. Good content

actual cinema

Neme leaves for 1 second and screaming ensues

9:06 "just level EINS" german is strong in this one

Who is the guy on the thumbnail?

THE GOAT

3:47:37 insane how he predicted the akali's movement on shroud hoooly

Chat delayed or is it nemesis stream that is delayed?

@mapin1410

21 күн бұрын

Nemesis stream is delayed 3 minutes

why they changed adc in game 4?

@moonlightsunshine7111

21 күн бұрын

The adc is from Ukraine, russia was bombing their electricity while they were playing the match

@sergee9197

21 күн бұрын

​@@moonlightsunshine7111nahh Putin rly put channel points on nemesis team..

@jacksonmagas9698

21 күн бұрын

@@moonlightsunshine7111 Its not that the electricity was bombed during the match, but because of the bombing of power infrastructure over the war there isn't enough to go around so they have scheduled blackouts for part of the day.

I see Neme i click ❤

Chat in game 3 is a few minutes behind

Is that nemesis on the thumbnail?

@sycron9900

21 күн бұрын

Shaggy

man aribo on game 5, this guy is the definition of a solo q player

yippie long neme video

I cant believe they can carry aribo, if I was in his team, I probably already smashed my keyboard.

what are these thumnails

Why don't we have 1 mill like on this videoooooo wppppp nemesis

I refuse to believe their jungler is challenger. He has no tempo, doesn’t ward or give team vision, has to be told to hover. Thank god Nemisis shot call and hard carried with druttut the last few games.

@samyhussein7083

22 күн бұрын

Its not that hard to be Challenger, you dont need that good at League to reach it

@WIDOWEDBYCHOICE

22 күн бұрын

Thats the point, he's good in solo queue cause he learned to solo carry, while pro junglers play boring ass Sejuani Jarvan etc... and perma help their team with 3K gold down

@Yicsrhgsjjggiiihggftyuiiuhftty

22 күн бұрын

@@samyhussein7083yes I’m sure some random low elo player like you knows how hard it is to reach challenger. Tilts me so much when I read comments like this. Imagine how shit your gameplay must be if someone you don’t think is that skilled is challenger, and they outpeak you by 2000lp. And I guarantee these people will say, “oh I don’t play serious”, then why comment on it at all as if you have any idea what skill is supposed to look like?

@zrckera

22 күн бұрын

​@@samyhussein7083 u are probably emerald lol

@AlpnzAMV

22 күн бұрын

@@samyhussein7083 surely you are higher than gold

Wassup with the nemerizz on the thumbnail

Mielia is the best

Damn nice games, I just think nemesis should shotcall more or talk it more, I see how he struggle to say things sometimes and then he doesnt say anything and starts tilting and I get it no one likes to be told what to do, like if he has more experience shouldnt they listen more to him xD?

this feels like early finals dude wtf

So much better than lec

Lil Tommy G is the goat

Team calls to end and aribo is farming wolves.

Good games nemesis❤

Beard nemesisbis back

why are u sigma mewing in the thumbnail

@ink2467

22 күн бұрын

because editor is zoomer cringer

Cinema

2:52:30 is the most insane sidestep I've ever seen in my life

pls tell druttut to play only his mains and drop this gragass hes trolling on it even tho its a good safe pick hes trolling it

That thumbnail litterly ruined everything 😂

imagine u guys had a jg

Was für ein Drama aber geil gespielt!

Damn game 5 was won after 1 stun from Nemesis 3:39:42

3:47:57 my parents didnt believe me that I watch league video

Support is low key good. Top and mid are high key good

@ethosterros9430

21 күн бұрын

Jungle is high key brain damaged

@lucaxtshotting2378

21 күн бұрын

@@ethosterros9430 he is jsut bad, same as adc, only more verbally

Aribo Fullclear Demon King

maybe ask aribo after he finished his full clear to make a play, kappa

Gonna be a backseater and say a thing that is probably on the mind of majority of us and probably players of a team: individual skill of majority of players is good but damn they together does not fit at all. Solo laners are heavy resource demanding players while their jungler is a full clear Andy. And none of them are willing to take an L ( esp Drut and Aribo ). But I think next match should be easier tho. Kirei was doing so much shotcalling duty and it was so well that it made his team look so much better. Imo Dealerz's team will have that lvl of coms

@closetdwight2450

21 күн бұрын

This has to be bait. The only thing drututt is not doing is changing his champ pool to fit meta toplaners, but he still performs good on his picks. You can also literally hear him apologise after every fuck up even during scrims, it doesn't come close to the ego aribo is showing.

@denka7898

21 күн бұрын

Bot got gapped every game until game 4 where enemy adc had to switch.

@antosqa7343

21 күн бұрын

@@closetdwight2450 I was talking about champ pool. I know Drut is not deaf and reasonable when it comes to criticism of his mistakes. But he didn't play "wholesome chunguses", which is understandable. So that role is for Aribo, Nemesis or Tommy. In comps support usually can't be the only engage/frontline, so he need an assistance in this matter. The only frontline I think Nemesis can play in mid currently is Galio, but he is not blindable/not fitting all comps. Aribo can play frontline champs like Voli, Skarner etc but he is playing them like fucking Udyr aka full clear gaming, but the perk of those champs is that they are still good on low economy and can drop some camps to prioritize playing for lanes more. So in the end they have noone to make plays, and it leads to them having hard time progressing the game further. Those last words were not mine, but Nemesis' and Drut. Logically speaking Aribo should take the L and play dog role for his solo lanes at least, but he refuses to. Drut won't back down either. So who will take the L and get less resources? Because if they are not stomping all lanes there is only that much farm on the map

@closetdwight2450

21 күн бұрын

@@antosqa7343 Yeah but atleast he steals meta champs from enemy pools. He plays skarner when its contested for example and it wouldn't surprise me if he picks ornn 1 of these games where he has no idea what to pick.

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

@@antosqa7343 He has played Gragas and Skarner in scrims. But more imporantly...he has a 100% wr on Kayle, Smolder and Zeri in scrims/official matches. We all know who should "take the L" in this scenario here and it's not Drututt

Unfortunate that enemy team had to switch adc for game 4 and 5. wp to Team Nemesis. Would be interesting to see what would have happened since enemy adc gapped Miella and Tommy games 1 and 2.

@pandora8999

21 күн бұрын

Xpetu team was goated, they were lucky

@GeometryDasher-ng2bc

21 күн бұрын

They would have most likely lost the series if that didn’t happen. Team XPetu lost game 3 because they were rushed to end their game as fast as possible before their adc had to disconnect. Hadn’t that happened, it would have likely been a 3-0 series instead.

Why does aribo play bad jungle champs?

2:23:08 forty minutes later Nice I guess we out scaled

juicer

Miella is so good

should've uploaded extended highlights.. would have been much better for the views

aribo the goat

Nemesis was terrible game one, apologized about it multiple times, admitted it to his stream and teammates and got his shit together for later games. Aribo on the other hand is allergic to the thought that he might be doing something.. anything bad.

Whats wrong with thumbnail xD

mr editor can we get rid of the chat for the tourney. its like 10 years behind the game and its just confusing tbh

aribo's calls are so annoying

@ethosterros9430

21 күн бұрын

It's not even calls he's just rambling as if he was teaching new players as a diamond. But also he needs to make irrelevant comments constantly. I think he's self soothing maybe. Like drut calls 60 more stacks for execute and he goes "You're fine on stacks tho".

The biggest issue i'm seeing is Aribo has no clue when or how to utilize skarner ultimate. I've seen that on the scrims earlier and it's fair to say that he improved overall with skarner but he still can't open up fights. Skarner should be SUCH a good pick for your teamcombs! If he learns to ult with this champion, he could finally get his flowers on that pick. Also his shyvana seems to be a SUPER defensive one. He could just play Bruiser/tank shyvana at this point and have more impact. That hwei game should've been easy. Adc was cooking everyone on scrims but the pressure seems to turn her down. Make sure to calm her down constantly. She's such a high value part of your team if you get her to relax and stay calm. TommyG is a fucking GOAT. Probably the most value i've ever seen on a support in a tournament format. Also it's kind of weird to me why bot side isn't getting favored by aribo at all. Druttut is so inconsistent, while the adc and tommy could utilize so much more from getting ahead. Druttut wouldnt even notice a difference i think.

@elitenoobtism988

21 күн бұрын

Completely agree. Top and Mid is solid with lane and pressure, they just need a jungler to facilitate bot for mid game snowball. The biggest problem is that Aribo refuses to eat losses when team comp requires a Jungler to facilitate plays or play bodyguard for their win-con player (I.e. druttut Camille or Kayle and Nemisis Aurelion or his Hwei…)

@guru4812

21 күн бұрын

I'd say Aribo's biggest issue is not seeing plays. He has very good judgement of how good/bad a play is while it's made, but he just doesn't see them, like ever, unless they're in front of him, which leads him to not really do anything on high level games, because every obvious play is probably already tought of and countered(unless it's a flip, and he seems to hate flips from how safe his gameplay is).

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

damn you wrote a lot considering you could have just stopped after the first 7 words you typed

@guru4812

21 күн бұрын

@@bexclue3007 I was trying to explain my point. Also you decided to type when you could’ve stopped reading after those 7 words, no?

@user-vs9nj1ii3i

21 күн бұрын

​@@guru4812I see the exact same thing. Aribo has that "EUW SoloQ Mentality". He needs to gap, he needs to stomp and carry, and thats why he plays so safe and egoistical, literally dragging the team down in some plays. But when he is fed/better than enemy jungler, he kinda just destroys the game. The scrims against Agurin team with Udyr and Volibear picks, he absolutely destroyed and carried his team in everything. Unfortunately, out of that, he is indeed screwing up the team.😊

Druttut is the best toplaner to ever exist

@terminator6431

21 күн бұрын

Idk why so little Credit is given to Druttut. He always secured good picks and pulls alot of pressure to himself while often getting weak sided. Always "Tommy mvp" or "adc too good" but in reality everyone is doing very good work and carring (not aribo tho).

@pandora8999

21 күн бұрын

Holy the copium

2:24:32 blessed xpetu ulting an invisible asol

Those backseaters in chat are so cringe. I'm sure they are nowhere close to even the rank of Aribo and they just spam "fullclear" or simply give the dumbest calls ever. GJ on the games.

People shitting on aribo for not listening to calls while he literally died multiple times just for listening to the call of other players. He for sure made a lot of mistakes, but half of the criticism is not justified.

@georgekawachi3255

20 күн бұрын

We found the Aribo fan

@crazy75able

20 күн бұрын

​@@georgekawachi3255 actually the opposite, but if that fits your narrative then go ahead

3:49:07 Thank me later

pog silver scrapes

Useless skarner game 5, I don’t think he made a single play… just cried he needs a bard ult to make a pick

@ethosterros9430

21 күн бұрын

It's crazy how much of an elo booster udyr is

@GeometryDasher-ng2bc

21 күн бұрын

Both junglers played terribly in Game 5 honestly. Kirei got fed early game and proceeded to take 0 Hextech drakes from blue side when it was the obvious wincon against a 1/3/1 Smolder that needed min 35 to be useful. They could’ve gotten soul at 25 mins… Team Neme got seriously lucky winning that series.

Aribo is so toxic it’s hard to watch

@ethosterros9430

21 күн бұрын

Yea like no matter what anyone says he has to get the last word to drag everyone down. I don't understand why he thinks buffs are relevant to the game. Red buff is icing on your cherry u still need a brain.

A little toxic behaviour on your jg btw (you and drutut)

Tell Aribo to stop playing Shyvana, it's useless

@mapin1410

21 күн бұрын

It’s not useless, his build was just awful into a horrible matchup (Lillia)

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

Out of Aribo, Shyvana and his build...Shyvana is the least useless out of them all

People shit talking aribo in chat the whole time, meanwhile he was holding the first 2 games on his own while his solo laners were literally getting solokilled and throwing the game. XD

@nwishao9747

21 күн бұрын

You must be Aribo to say this, there is no other explanation.

@bos7522

21 күн бұрын

@@nwishao9747 Did Drut and Nem get solokilled in games 1 and 2, yes or no? Was Aribo 5/0 on his OTP and nobody listened to his calls and just proceeded to int sidelanes on their own, yes or no? I shit on Aribo just as much as the next guy, unlike 99% of chat, I actually get Aribo in my lobbies, but imagine it was anyone other than Nem/Drut losing their lanes in those games, would chat have glazed and said it was jg diff? Tommy trolled in 5 out of 5 games, made 1 really good play in game 5 and yet, Aribo gets flamed when he's playing against an actual pro player in jung xDDDD kinda cringe. Guess we weren't watching the same games.

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

@@bos7522 Count the amount of games (including scrims) Neme or Drutt were fed on one of their mains and actually 1v9ed/carried to victory and compare it to how useless Aribo getting 5 kills on Udyr is. He also giga ran it down in that game, in last drake fight bc he just got 3 shot by full item Cait (just a useless champ in that scenario. and since it's his only champ, he's just fucked and can't carry. gg)

@bos7522

21 күн бұрын

@@bexclue3007 Count the number of times Aribo solo lost the game in those scrims by making a bad play solo vs how many times Nem and Drut gave away a lead that didnt matter in the end because they are overall better players in the late game?

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

@@bos7522 what are you even talking about. the fact aribo is on the team and afk for the first 20 minutes makes every game 10 times harder from the get go. people are saying "botlane never wins lane", like, yeah you can't when you don't have a jungler to actually dive on slow pushes to push leads. Same with top lane. There was a game where Drututt was giga gapping with opponent low under turret all laning phase - a jungler could have made the game a living hell for enemy top side and snowballed Drututt's lead. Instead he did nothing and the lane dominance Drut had, made 0 impact and they eventually lost. Of course Neme and Drut will sometimes misplay or throw away small advantages here and there. That happens when you play the game. Problem with Aribo is, he isn't even playing the game. Or listening in coms. He's just an NPC Aribo played one of the most aggressive junglers (esp for dives etc) in Volibear, had 0/1/0 stats after like 20 minutes, still, and ended the game with same damage as enemy Leona. But hey, Drut and Neme also misplay sometimes so can't blame Aribo I guess Trolleg

What a guy Aribo is. if u wanna know what narcisstic disorder is. There u go, u have it. He is so anoying. He have excuse for everthing. And he is never wrong and and whatever his team have a plan he must say something diferent. Like dude Nemesis was in Fnc playing at worlds and probably could have nice carrer if he stays but no you know better what to do. U dont wanna give gromp to Kayle in game 4 and dont wanna hover omega fed Kayle all because you are said by Neme and Drutut to do so. And dont to say mentaly how much negativity and chaos he brings in team with that aditude. and his perfornance was bad he was giga gaped by other jungler. JUST KICK HIM FROM THE TEAM.

@bexclue3007

21 күн бұрын

he's not a narcissist mr armchair psychiatrist. he's just an idiot. if their jungler was a high iq narcissist, they'd stomp every game. the personality disorder would not matter

first

Aribo did play badly, but man, chat is fucking braindead, they criticize absolutely everything. I hope the dude understand the positive feedback and starts to be more active on the map and if he doesn't know because he's not used to, Neme should shotcall.

When you finally get your 60% win rate back, Riot's idea of a joke is to stick 4 players each sharing one brain cell on your team.... Now I know why everyone dodges so much. This EBMM system is Shhyyt

@ethosterros9430

21 күн бұрын

It's cuz solo que. Ppl aren't winning to lose games on principle like I've thrown games refusing to play around the animal that could have been won. I'll get the elo back cuz it's 1 game but if everyone refused to participate in games with sociopaths they can't get carried so they stay in gold or silver where they belong.