Omar, I think you're a little off with a few points. With the Nikon i Menu, if you use the rotate the back dial to change WB for example, you don't need the confirmation OK - it works just like the Fuji. You only need the OK confirmation if you're using the D-Pad (which gives you access to the hidden adjust menu - example, when choosing a WB with Dpad, press down! The PASM is an SLR/DSLR holdover and it has it's advantages - for example, with Fuji you have to turn THREE dials for full auto. With Nikon, it's faster - you set only one switch to P and you're in full auto. I do like how you can break out of full auto on the Fuji. Using Viltrox lenses on Nikon gives you that aperture ring with an AUTO setting for an almost Fuji like experience, but that just sends the aperture control to the appropriate command dial. On the Zf ISO Dial, C(ontrol) doesn't let you adjust ISO by moving the dials like you said in the video. The C(ontrol) mode allows you set a custom value, like a boosted ISO. (I have it set to Low 1.0 for when i'm using 0.95 lenses.) I'd love to see Nikon allow Auto ISO on the C(ontrol) setting. This is on many people's wish list and lots (including myself) have sent this request to Nikon. I also wish Nikon would set the trash button to be customizable in shooting mode. Anyway, hope this helps. I've been using Nikon since the D1 days, and play in the Fuji world with my XE3 and small primes. One thing I can't get behind is the Fuji select shutter via top dial then adjust a dial for thirds, but it's probably because of my history with Nikon. Anyway, thanks for making some of the best and most entertaining gear videos.

I think I speak for everyone on this channel when I say we look forward to every video you make and we love watching it no matter what the subject because we will always learn something!

Simplicity is a big reason why I decided to go with Fuji when I switched from a Canon DSLR to mirrorless. Since I mostly shoot in aperture priority, the ring turned out to be a great ergonomic choice and at this point, it would be hard for me to change. I’m not a pro so I’m shooting mostly for fun and my X-T5 (and my X-T2 before that) is just plain fun to use.

@akfisher7138

8 ай бұрын

I echo that.

dude the auto iso on nikon is amazing when you turn on auto iso the iso wheel works as a cap for the highest iso the camera can use.

@Kim_Alexander

Ай бұрын

@@olivierlabuse works in manual mode to..

@Kim_Alexander

Ай бұрын

@@olivierlabuse in manual with Auto ISO on the ISO value will never go higher then what it is set at on the iso wheel. Is you want to set an exact value you have to turn auto iso off

Nikon DSLR and Fuji X user here : I always tend to confuse which way I need to turn my lens to remove it, so my method now is : I just turn towards the button ! On the Fuji lens mount the lens release button is on the left : you turn to the left On the Nikon, the button is on the right, you turn to the right ! Easy. (Until you pick up a Canon that requires you to turn away from the button lol)

@UKFR

8 ай бұрын

Great idea that, thanks.

This is a great video. As a X-T4 owner, I went to a local camera shop to see if I would like Nikon Zf, and I ended up getting confused on control and wasn't be able to understand its full functionality. One thing I also learned was how heavy and big Nikon Z lenses are. This helped me decide that Fujifilm is still the best fit for my photography.

PRO Nikon Tip: Fn + Front Dial enables/disables Auto ISO - no need for menu diving

@victorlim5077

8 ай бұрын

True but I just wished Nikon allowed the option to go to Auto ISO directly just by clicking on c on the ISO dial (following the actual ISO when not on c). Saves a precious function button. Otherwise the Zf is a wonderful camera.

Sold my XT30ii, and made a decision between these two cameras. I went with the ZF and don’t regret it at all. First off, the weight difference of the camera bodies have been highly dramatized. The ZF is slightly heavier, but does suffer when it comes to grip. The XT5 is much easier to hold, just not much lighter… The EVF in the ZF is quite good, and the B&W switch is a handy feature. The monochrome settings out of camera are really nice as well. If the XT5 shares the XT30iis menu, then the speed of the ZF menu absolutely blows the Fuji away. I personally prefer the fully articulating screen of the ZF, because I actually keep it closed most of the time. I like that film experience, and the ability to protect the screen when not using the camera. These are both great options. I think the ZF is going to deliver better image quality, especially in low light. If you want a more compact lense selection (with auto focus), and film simulations, then go Fuji. Personally, I do think some of the negatives regarding the ZF have been blown out of proportion (regarding KZread reviews)

@wm1573

7 ай бұрын

"menu blows fuji away" sure buddy lol

@JeDxDeVu

5 ай бұрын

The low light ff vs apsc isn’t that relevant anymore as apsc sensors have evolved over the years to be just as good. It’s something that was relevant 10 years ago but people just keep saying it like it’s written in stone

@TheNoilif

4 ай бұрын

@@JeDxDeVu The Nikon ZF is especially great in low light. I've had the Sony a7III, a7rIV, Fuji X-T4, and now the Nikon ZF and the Nikon produces the cleanest images in low light that I've seen. The 40 mp sensor on the Fuji X-T5 is actually worse in low light than the 26 mp sensor on the older bodies due to the higher pixel count of the sensor. This only really becomes an issue at iso 6400 or above.

You can use Auto-Iso with the Nikon and depending if your set Maximum is above or below the choose value on the dial you can adjust your Auto-Iso. Very smart implementation actually. No need for different AutoIso settings

@stavros.fourfourianakis

8 ай бұрын

I agree. On my Z Fc I have set the upper limit of Auto-ISO and with the dial you control the lower limit. So, if it is dark and you want to enforce higher ISO you just set higher value on the dial. I never need to change from Manual to Auto-ISO and vice versa.

Looks like Omar is as confused about how ISO control on the Z f works like everyone else. I was frustrated figuring it out myself as well - but... just read the manual. Here's the gist: * There is only full manual OR auto-ISO across all modes. Unfortunately, you cannot set auto-ISO only for P, A and S and have M be fully manual. * When set to auto-ISO, the ISO dial is not without function, but it works different from what you would expect. For auto-ISO you are setting an ISO max value in the menu along with a default value, a max ISO for use with flash and a minimum shutter speed. Now, you can use the ISO dial on the top plate with these settings to override the max ISO value set in the menu - with a twist. If the dial value is lower than what you set as the max in the menu, the max menu value still applies. If the dial value is higher than the menu value, the dial value applies. So one way to use this with auto-iso is to use a low max value in the menu and override it as needed with the top plate dial. I also think it's confusing AF. But I understand what they're trying to offer here.

@quikee9195

8 ай бұрын

What you said is not complete or partially wrong - The way you said is is that the ISO dial overrides the max ISO, but only if the ISO on the dial is bigger than the one in the settings for max ISO, so you don't say what effect it has when it is lower than the max ISO in the setting implying it has no effect. This is not the case - The ISO dial when auto ISO is enabled actually controls the min ISO, so if you dialed that to 1600, this will be the minimal ISO used and it won't go lower than that even if there is enough light. This is quite bad as you have to make sure that you keep the dial always on the minimum until you actually want a higher ISO. I don't know why Nikon made it control the min. ISO - it's the most useless setting ever. I can't come up with a scenario where you want to change the min. ISO - in most cases when that is needed I would just turn off the auto ISO and control the ISO manually. Controlling max. ISO OTOH is something I would like to do in difficult lighting conditions or just to prevent the camera using high ISO values until I would allow it to do so in a difficult lighting conditions. I also wish the shutter speed dial would switch the meaning to auto ISO's "min. shutter speed" in modes where the shutter speed is forced to auto (aperture priority).

Correction on Auto ISO: Thanks to everyone who mentioned the Zf AUTO ISO settings! Very helpful! Sooooo.... The Zf dial works in Auto ISO. You can use it to override your minimum Auto ISO set! For example, you can set your auto ISO maximum to ISO 640 with a minimum shutter speed of 1/400. If the scene is too dark, the Auto ISO setting will flash. You can then turn your dial BEYOND your minimum to activate a higher ISO. It's pretty clever and useful. I'll have a follow-up showing image quality and useability in the real world! Yay.

I've just switched from XT3 to X f. And you are 100% right - Fuji has more customizable and intuitive controls. Only on day 3 I became more comfortable on Nikon. Also, it was mentioned in comments, Nikon is much heavier and grip is smaller(I've already ordered additional grip).

@janjamesramos247

8 ай бұрын

traitor

@amxxnxo

8 ай бұрын

Do you miss the Fuji?

@andriyglovatskiy

8 ай бұрын

@@amxxnxo I wouldn't say miss, but there are definitely things that are more logical and practical on Fuji.

@joemeka

5 ай бұрын

@@janjamesramos247😂

Finally the video i jave been waiting for thank you!

Have both systems currently. I am moving back fully to Fuji but there are definitely going to be things I miss on Nikon like their latest autofocus. Z8 autofocus feels like magic and I will miss that. This Zf is sure sexy. I actually like the way they implemented PASM. The fact that both work differently is why I am feeling like I need to pick one system. Bouncing between it is hard to build muscle memory. I still may get that Zf and keep my 40 voit and just use it totally manual.

@craigcarlson4022

8 ай бұрын

Chris, I hear ya. I was using both Canon and Nikon up to a few weeks ago. Was such a relief when i decided to go with just one system.

I loved this style of video demonstrating how the cameras differ in actual use. Really great stuff Omar and immensely helpful in helping me decide that while I’d love to go full frame for my ‘fun/retro’ camera, the Fuji controls and way of doing things still just suits me more. I’ll just be off renewing my Topaz Denoise subscription …

great video thanks as always omar!

Nikon PASM dial is actually fantasic. Been using Nikons since D800e and when you need to switch modes on the fly quickly, nothing beats a flick on the PASM. The fuji dial's automatic setting feels more nostaglic but sometimes, you just dont have time to be rotating each wheel one at a time

Having a LOT of Nikon and also a Fujifilm X-T3 I am so glad you made this. But for the lenses, full frame and the image quality it’s Nikon hands down for me. I have a Z8 now and love it for everything but it’s size, I may just hang on to the Fujifilm X-T3 too. I still think I will eventually pickup the ZF and sell my Nikon Z6. The Fujifilm XF56mmF1.2 R is a slow and somewhat clumsy lens, but I just love its size and the look of the images. The Nikon 85f1.8 is a much better lens for autofocus and image quality, but it’s also larger and not as retro. I hate to admit how much the look of the gear matters. But it does on a retro body!

I've had Nikon and more recently Canon. I switched to Fuji for the lighter weight and the "manual type" controls. I love my XT-3 and can't imagine having to go back to the menu to operate it.

I actually really like the PASM dial on the Zf, I can control which dials are in play much faster than with Fuji controls. I just wish the shutter dial controlled the minimum shutter speed in aperture priority.

After using this camera more I have one wish - to be able change the function of the zoom in and zoom out buttons. The ZF is very pure in its design and has few buttons, this way you’d have two more buttons to customize. Being able to assign Zoom on/of to the zoom in and some other function to zoom out would be more useful than the default zoom in / zoom out in live view. Basically improving the zoom in and adding another button to support some function for quick control. To each his own, but in short I’d like to be able to reassign zoom in and zoom out to some other custom control. The ZF has few buttons to start with, this would improve the options at little to no cost.

This really helps. Thank you!

My X-T5 remembers where I was last in the menu before turning off the device. 🤔 Thanks for the video. It made me realize how great Fujifilm is in this regard.

That's the comparison I was looking for. Thanks Omar!

Omar, I am watching this at 3am, and that casual ISO to I so hungry joke, made me lol unexpectedly haha. Thanks for the laughs in addition to the camera content. Happy holidays bud.

Hi Omar. I come from a Minolta/Sony background since the 80's. I switched to Fuji because of the retro design that I missed and loved so much and the film simulations. I own, the Fuji xT3, Xpro3 and Xh2. I also own several film cameras from the Minolta SRT 102, 7000 and A Nikon F3 and I loooove the Nikon F3. So when Nikon released a full frame retro camera the Nikon ZF I bought it. I will be honest here and say that using the fuji was by far more confusing to get a grasp on then the Nikon ZF. I felt I understood the ZF immediately and was very intuitive including the menu system (which I've never used before). The responsiveness from autofocus, to the touch screen is pretty damned amazing and the picture quality is insane as is the DR. Then there are all these custom settings that actually can help in getting a more filmic look if that's what one wants. This camera is a beast and fast. I will actually be selling all my fuji gear, can't have both and the Nikon ZF won out after using it for the last week. Oh, and the viewfinder imo is crazy good and responsive, crystal clear and simply gorgeous unlike my fuji's. My only two complaints about the Nikon f3 is that I (for my pref) had to buy the grip as trying to hold the camera was not comfortable. Also the function button on the front of the camera, at bottom of where lens would be. I kept hitting that with my pinky pre grip. Also, I actually don't mind the no aperture ring on the lens. None of the things I mentioned are deal breakers and I'm totally in love with this camera including it's brass rings that seem too loud for other people. I still love the fuji cameras, but only one can win and I chose the Nikon ZF.

This is super helpful, Omar! I’m still on the fence but probably won’t buy the Nikon. I would like to bring up one thing - i shot Nikon for 20 years along with Olympus SLR cameras. I was quite used to using both for different shooting styles. Fast forward and three Fujis later, i acquire the XH2S which you have a PASM dial so after years with Fuji and away from DSLRs, I was confused for daysssss! I knew logically what was happening but my muscle memory was stronger. Here’s the thing though - after two years of shooting events and wildlife with the XH2s I was all about the PASM dial… picked up the X-T5 and really couldn’t anymore and returned it! Incidentally, it also had a defect so had to return it anyway. On my X-t30ii and X-e2 I’m full manual all the way and only use them for street and travel anyway. So the long story short is it’s all about what you get used to. When I’m doing events, I’m trained now in PASM and prefer it for that kind of shooting. For street, I cannot deal with the XH2s! Kinda complex but that’s how I roll!

The Fuji X-T3 is my favorite camera ever. Anything bigger is too big.

I have the XT5 and I was considering the Nikon because of the great low light performance. (I would keep both because there is no beating the Fuji as a travel/street camera) However now I'm thinking the Z8 for sports, nature and landscape. or the GFX for landscape ? too many choices

Hi Omar! Great video as always. I would like your opinion on the ZF, if possible. I already sold my z6. But Im thirn between a used z6ii and the new zf. Is zf a big upgrade from the z6ii? Is the AF really that good? Im also thorn between the 2 because of the grip, I loved the z6 grip. Also, I dont really wanna be waiting for the z6iii. Is the ZF doable for paid jobs, or is the z6ii better? Best regarfs from Portugal.

What a great comparison of the two cameras. I learned a lot. Thanks Omar

Thanks. It is the best comparison video

If you have the ZF in T mode on the shutter dial, will it keep the shutter speeds different for video and photo?

Hello! I have a question. can this camera record 4k 60 externally? For redundancy atomos ninja v?

If you just shoot photos and you want simplicity, and a nice wee camera, smaller than newer models, go for the XT2! All 3 settings are visible on dials/lenses. It is a delight to use

I love the Zf but I have found a problem for me. There is no "Recall Shooting Functions" so you can't set up a button to disable Subject Detection on the fly. You have to go into menus to do it. On the Z8 you can configure a button to be 3D Tracking with no Subject Detection to focus on an object almost the same as the Subject Tracking on the Z6 and Z7's. With the Subject Detection on the camera will want to detect a person still. If you still have any clout with Nikon ask them to put this feature in. It is only Nikon full frame that can't do it. It is the only thing stopping me from snapping up a second one

That was fun! And I learned a bit more about my Fujis (T5 and V) in the process. I forgot (!) that I had a D-pad on my T5, having become used to the T-Fn swipes on the screen (sort of used to it). Thanks, Omar.

Really really REALLY useful video. Love that Nikon put out a retro camera. Reminds me a lot of the Fuji XT1 ... which was awesome...but less awesome then the XT3 😃. I think if they keep improving Zf I will definitely jump over.

@ogonzilla

7 ай бұрын

It's an exciting time for us retro nerds

Would love for you to review the image quality performance.. does the 24mp full frame beat the crop sensor 40mp for noise etc.?

Yepp, the Fuji controls are much more logical and consistent. I really wanted to like the Zf but there are too many little inconsistencies and bad design choices. It’s a pity because I really like my old analog Nikon FE2.

I'm so curious - what happens when you set the ISO dial to C, and the SS dial to 1/3rd stop. How do you control the aperture? Also just want to note one thing about the i menu - one thing I appreciate about it being only in the bottom on Nikon is that, at least on the z6ii, activating the i menu forces exposure preview to turn back on when you're using a flash. On my Fujis I would assign a D-pad button to do this, but it's nice to be able to get an ambient preview really quickly on the z6ii without having to cycle through preview modes or use up a custom button.

For me the whole point of switching from Sony to Fuji is the beautiful colors and film simulations.

Omar, Glad you made this video to highlight these differences. I had the ZF pre-ordered but when i was able to lay hands on it at a demo event…Waaaaa?!?! I cancelled my pre-order. As for Fuji, Long Live The D-Pad!

Don’t think Omar has spent enough time with the ZF as some of this info as to how the camera operates is factually incorrect. I think that the ZF is way better to use than the XT..I have been shooting with the ZF now for a couple of weeks but I am a long time Fuji XT system user. I am probably going to sell the XT…it’s much slower to use. You can use the ZF like the XT or like a z6. Just have ZF on manual and it performs exactly like my XT 5.. the only thing is the ZF levers don’t change on you like the XT does ( I am sick of suddenly finding I am shooting in HDR mode with the XT-5). The AF is streets ahead on the ZF ..as is the ibis, low light operation and image quality. The only thing better with the Fuji system is the size and weight of the camera and lenses.

@laurelb8372

8 ай бұрын

Agree

Isnt there a iso button or custom and you spin front wheel to get auto iso? Like on the z6?

@ogonzilla

7 ай бұрын

Yes there is.

Great comparison, Omar. Like you, I shoot both Fuji and Nikon. Thanks for the dip on assigning the "Custom Simulations" to the four-way controller on XT-series cameras. The Auto ISO implementation on the Zf is a really bummer, especially if you are used to the really easy way of switching back and forth between Auto ISO and Manual ISO using the two controls wheels on other Z System cameras. I thought Nikon would've learned their lesson from the Zfc Auto ISO problem which was one of the issues noted by many reviewers. I would very interested in a follow-up video where you compare the MF aids between the two cameras using vintage lenses. I'm keen to learn more about the added MF features included in the Zf and how well they work in practice compared to your experience in using MF on your X-T3. BTW, what do you think of the B&W mode on the Zf? I actually thought of you when the camera was announced because of your previous work on creating "Nikon Noir". As it happens, the Deep Monochrome mode on the Zf looks suspiciously like your NN. Did you get a royalty cheque? Haha.

Hi Omar! I've been following you for quite some time and I wanted to ask how to do a video recording of glowing thing s. I have a Fujifilm xt30. I want to do a video of things that glow in the dark, all kinds of glowing fidgets, etc.. Can you briefly explain to me what buttons I need to press to get the result I need? In other words from the settings of the operation to get the best result I once managed to take pictures of glowing things in the dark I just don't remember where I have to click again I just forgot.

Hi Omar, is there a certain date set by Nikon on which reviewers can review picture quality / autofocus etc? I see unpackings around the same dates, I see first previews around the same dates... I see people discussing the buttons... when can we expect the picture quality / af reviews?

I´ll be comenting as a I watch, casue you are the 1. Your video make me disconnect from my job stress as a pro photographer. Already have Z9 with Z lenses and could consider just ZF for it´s AF over Fuji due to my shooting styles en genres covered (many many on extreme conditions). I use all manual except ISO mostly for events, dancing, street, closed and open air parades, birding. All manual at Fine ART, stills, landscapes, shore activities and competitions. Under heavy rain or sun, totally darkness enviroment, and more... And those thousands of photos must be sold next days, some are pre ordered individually by clients. I mean photo and video. So a ZF with such Z lens will complement me even with an FN less than Z6. That´s a retro Ferrari that for sure will be tuned up with firmwares. Context will vary to each and some systems just can´t handle others. Saludos de Uruguay!

@borocotochacha

8 ай бұрын

Prefer screen as Fuji and other Z´s too! Won´t last a day shooting on the crowd 😶

That's the kind of video we need because most of us have no retailer around and even so won't have the chance to check all of these features in the shop. 👍👍👍👍👍.....But I guess that was part I .....isn't it ? 😇😇

Great work. X-T2 is my daily camera, and suits my needs. I was intrigued by the Nikon retro style. You showed me the reasons not to switch to Nikon. I was not aware of them. Like aperture ring is a must for me. Changing the lens in opposite of the screw direction is not logical for me. Difficult to change lenses due to hands position. ... Thanks

Where you mentioned holding movie button before changing the focus area there is an option that I set my Nikon bodies where you only have to tap the button and not hold while making other changes. Once a change is made the video button can be tapped again to cancel or any other button. No need to hold continually while changing a function. I find this easier and faster, especially with my other bodies for sports/wildlife.

To your point, if you're coming from a Fuji then yes, it's a little bit odd. For me, it wasn't really a problem. Plus, I'm pretty much on Manual mode. The only thing is memorizing the knobs. For some reason I keep thinking the ISO dial should be on the right. Maybe because on the Z6 II, the ISO button is on that side. So my memory keeps telling me different.

Great comparison, thank you. As a long term Nikon user I agree the reverse lens thread is annoying in the extreme.

Great Video Omar love your channel from South Africa. This one helped me a lot I’m a stubborn old school Nikon F mount DSLR guy and it took me a long time to start busing mirrorless cameras. I have an X-H1 that serves me very well but I still use my D850 a lot. I really wanted to see a video comparing Fujifilm to Nikon ZF. 🙏

Sticking with my old Fuji X-T's purely down to the simplicity of dials and the familiarity means the nothing gets in the way of shooting . Makes no sense changing systems just because something is the next best thing. To be always having to learn the latest camera takes up time that I can be shooting. I guess it's the difference between photographer or gear collector, nothing wrong with either... so long as we don't kid ourselves as to which one we are.

good points. nice backlight colors. red worked well.

so glad you made this. I think there is a huge overlap of potential Zf buyers and current or past Fuji shooters.

@alexdubois6585

8 ай бұрын

I think the PASM dial is better, you can go Aperture priority without looking at the dial, when you want to do that, you usually are pressed with time. For the Auto ISO, is the ss dial on Nikon setting the min ss when in auto?

@DieHardEddieEdwards

8 ай бұрын

Is there’s the big difference here is one is full frame and the other isn’t.

@alexdubois6585

8 ай бұрын

@@DieHardEddieEdwards with the good and the bad (price/weight/size/bokeh/low light)...

X-T3 is just so darn good with Fuji rolling out superb updates to the firmware.

Good points. I am basically a Nikon Z shooter, but also have a Fuji XT5 and a few prime lenses. I'm always interested in new Nikon Z cameras but will stay away from the Zf. Just does not make much sense to me. But thanks again for a great video.

Well done, thank you. I'm on the fence about the Zf so I'm planning for a Christmas-time rental to play with it. I adore my X100V but I didn't like the X-T30II nearly as much.

Hey, Omar! Have a quick question for you. I got into photography about a year and a half ago. Chose Fuji as my platform. Currently have an XH2 and XT5. However, lately I’ve been getting asked more and more to do paid gigs. However, I’ve been having issues with my cameras missing autofocus to the lobby where I’m considering adopting a system that has more reliable AF. I also on a Nikon D850 and some high quality zooms. It would be a logical transition to pick up some thing like Z8/Z9 because I could use my old F mount glass until I can upgrade to Z mount lenses. However, I don’t know how the auto focus on the new Nikon cameras stacked up against the Fuji system. And your experience, are the new Nikon cameras any better than the new Fuji? Canon is too expensive, so it’s either in Nikon NIKKOR I sell everything and pick up an A7R5. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!

@karlbratby4349

5 ай бұрын

Hope you went the Nikon route and realised that its latest AF is top draw, as good as Sony and canon if not better, Fuji is a wonderful system and I own a lot of that system but it’s AF is lacking and falling even more behind if they don’t ask for outside help as there in house engineers have failed to improve it much in the past 10 years, it’s getting better but falling even further behind the big 3 with each new camera release 😢

@RazeTheWeak

5 ай бұрын

@@karlbratby4349 Hey, thanks for the response. I’m actually going to start listing Fuji items this weekend. Once everything is sold, I’ll be picking up a Z8. Borrowed a friend’s A74. Love the small size and the AF is incredible, but the Nikon colors are incredible and I feel like their system will just be perfect for me.

@karlbratby4349

5 ай бұрын

@@RazeTheWeak thats awesome, so glad you di NOT go Sony, I did for a year and regretted it, Nikon is great. Fuji xh2s and xh2 along with an XT5 at present suit what i do and need, paired with the best glass the images are great, AF as we have mentioned is sadly lacking, XH2s is the best of the bunch and love the ergonomics. the ZF is lacking for me in a few areas, LOOKS AMAZING but its a toy, a very good toy, what i mean is its not going to be a system, you have a body that looks great, but then have to stick Z glass on it which is fine but a real mismatch of styles so what the hell is the point. give us a few more buttons, a lens selection to match the body with an aperture ring and wow would that beast sell!! enjoy the Z8

Recently switched from Fujifilm to Nikon and as soon as the prices of the Zf are a little bit down will get one.

I have bought the new ZF to go with my Z7ii. Have you worked out if in auto ISO can you change minimum shutter speed without going into the menu. Yes you can shoot in manual, but is there a way to rotate a command dial. I haven't been able to do this on the Z7ii either. Why do Nikon do this. No other manufacturer does it this way. You can't assign a button to auto ISO and then rotate a command dial. Ehhh.

OMAR NIKON CONTENT!!! LETS GOOOOOO!!!!

Thanks, Omar. This lets me imagine my alternate universe life where instead of a Fuji I bought a Nikon like I originally planned to when I was getting back into photography and looking for an aps-c sensor. I am happy with my choice but I do have a soft spot for Nikon because of that initial interest: “Sorry I went to prom with someone else, Nikon, but you’re great!”

Within the first three minutes I realized I’m glad I have Fuji and don’t plan to leave for Nikon! I’m probably just too old school.

Thank you for the comparison! Having both GFX and X cameras I've been wondering if the Zf would be the one camera to replace both systems. This video helps a lot!

Please do a apsc vs ff vs medium format comparison. Considering you have all of them currently. Would be an epic comparison. Ps - the worst thing about that zf is that the dial doesn't have highest precedence for example iso dial is set to some iso but you cannot turn on auto iso unless you turn dial to c but once you turn on auto iso & want to get out pf it you can't just turn the dial anymore & get out of auto you'll have to go back to c on dial & turn auto iso off then turn the dial again. Wtf? 😂 So you are kinda spot on about that auto settings on fuji vs nikon.

This pretty much all applies to the Nikon Z fc as well, which I have. The only way the Nikon feels “normal” to me when I shoot it on full manual, with a third-party lens like the Viltrox 13mm, which has an physical aperture ring-but it doesn’t click! The Nikon Z lenses I have all have control rings so I can adjust the aperture that way. And as you point out, auto-ISO is done via menu. I enjoy using the Nikon and have gotten used to it, but the Fuji implementation is WAY more intuitive!

@poniatowski3547

8 ай бұрын

I mapped the record button to iso, so I switch between manual and auto iso via that.

You can separate the Video / Photo Settings its actually pretty cool as Nikon allows you to pick exactly what stays the same and what is independent

you forgot to mention a couple of things. Full frame vs crop sensor and the lens selection. I own a Z7 and am waiting on the Z8 so I'm only curious about the ZF. To me the quality of Nikon glass is off the charts.

I’m a Z6II shooter and generally pleased with it. Not a big fan of this retro look of the Zf and it shows that it’s more for the looks than functionality. Fuji is not perfect, but better in this regard.

I think Nikon recognizes the fact that someone that bought the Zf will primarily be shooting in M or A - the same way they did with their F3, FE, FM3A, etc. The dials all make sense that way. Auto ISO can be implemented in the only way that makes sense - ISO dial controls maximum allowed auto ISO. I shoot almost exclusively in M with Auto ISO.

Nice video. Learned a lot. Bottom line. They both work well. If you are more familiar with one that will work better for you.

I’ve been using Fuji since 2015 so maybe that is why I feel this, but the Nikon seems a little frustrating. Fuji just seems more intuitive. The way the X-T series of cameras handle is the reason I stay with Fuji. They feel amazing to use.

thank you for this great insight, while i don't want to get a fuji simply due to the aps-c sensor, it's a great demonstration of user experience and howit can make or break a camera. the zf looks great on paper but too many of these little friction points makes it not really worth it for me.

With the A-settings on physical dials, I doubt Nikon was banned from it, since it's also on the Panasonic LX100 and Leica Q lines, where I think they made a slight improvement over Fuji: the A is next to the ~minimum~ aperture rather than the maximum. If I want to switch away from auto, I'd rather switch to f/1.7 than f/22. That basic function--mostly leave it on Auto, but directly control an exposure point when you needed--is the core of what I love about Fuji physical dials. For full manual, PASM works fine on any camera with enough dials to cover the exposure points. IMHO, where PASM lags is when you want to switch between different priority modes.

you are so funny... question where do I find one of those super sweet red cap for the shutter button?

I think Fuji has the dials the right way. Both ISO and shutter speed. You turn them to the right --> you increase "volume" ≈ more light 🤔 (and yeah, technically increasing iso is not more light, but that's how I feel the dials work intuitively)

Omar, you've just helped with my decision to order a Fuji X-T5 rather than the Nikon Zf. Gold star for starting with the aperture ring difference (unlike all the other reviews I've bothered with). Am still hoping Nikon Zf will grab enough FF market to get others like Sony to bring back the retro look. If that happens maybe Fujifilm will go FF finally!

I think there are some 3rd party Z-mount lenses with aperture collars fitted. Or you could always use adapted D or older manual focus lenses. Actually the latter would suit this camera so much better. especially ones with the sculpted focus rings. might even tempt me back to Nikon… also, newer Fujis (well, my X-H2 anyway) remembers which menu item through power cycles

@MB-dq2gz

8 ай бұрын

Voigtlander has released some excellent Z mount lenses that would suit this camera well.

Maybe the PASM and analog dials design is meant to be based from Nikon FA

I think there must be an option to separate general exposure settings b/w stills & video mode in Zf as it has been a standard feature on any Nikon prosumer camera for almost 10 years now. The implemantetion can be different due to retro dials but it has to be there!

Mi pana. I appreciate this ♥. The X-T's and X-Pro Fuji's have that size and workflow I want. Pero, I NEED that Z f in my life. 😅

I own both Fujifilm and Nikon cameras. I agree with most of your observations about both brands. The lens reversal (to remove or place a lens on the camera) drives me crazy! It completely destroys my muscle memory. Overall, I like my Fujifilm cameras much better than my Nikon. However, I will say that the Nikon does a fantastic job rendering colors. Not that the Fujifilms are bad. It’s just the the Nikon sensor is exceptional.

I prefer the way the Nikon works. I don't want any auto modes, I keep my Z fc in M and decide everything manually with the dials. I also have the zoom ring set to aperture ring.

Its a new camera , fairly new system that has its quirks but I got a hang of it by day 3 of owning. I really enjoy using it. Upgraded from a nikon z6

X-T3(2018) always been best analog style camera for stills, then and now, for learning triangle and pros. Get one used for around 800$, pair it with used XF 18-135(400-500$), plus few batteries and get over new toy sickness.

So I just picked up a Zf coming from a z6. And I was super excited and the autofocus is def awesome. But I hybrid shoot a lot and it’s annoying that the settings stay the same with the manual dials. The shutter speed thing is so annoying! I called Nikon and they couldn’t figure out a way which stinks.

That’s why I love my Fuji ❤

What about low light performance for moonshots and clubs?

Good video. As you says Fuji controls seems a little bit more intuitive but due to the fact that Nikon decided to suppress its manual aperture ring since the G lenses if I remember well, it was difficult to réintroduce it again and that s probably the reason of the pasm lever … which was already present on the old FA camera. Anyway as you says too when you have a camera you get used to it and all what may seems weird the first day becomes natural after some days… so I don t think it s a big question. Anyway I went to Fuji for a time due to its very nice look which makes me remind my old Nikons, but now with the Zf I think I will go back to the yellow brand knowing that s this camera offers also the best way to use old manual lenses that I kept. I already loved the Df which was able to use the first all metal Nikon lense (not when it came to the market as it was at an indecent price but later), and I think I will love the Df… and good news for Nikon, I won t be alone :).

the PSAM dial thing is simple- thats how all nikons work basically- you pick the mode and then the functions adapt to that mode. i think comparing these two together can be a bit apples and oranges as you're looking at the fuji system which is how it works for almost all their cameras vs. the nikon which has adapted to how almost all nikons work to its aesthetic. and i think it can be a bit unfair to look at a crop system vs full frame. and as a nikon pro I live in auto iso alot. just some thoughts!

Zf’s “Auto” switch is certainly a fast and convenient feature when you need it.

@thebitterfig9903

8 ай бұрын

Is it better, tho? I feel like the great thing about a Fuji's dial set up is that I can easily switch any control point to or from auto when I need it. Leave on auto, and rather than set the PASM to Aperture Priority, I just turn the aperture ring. If I want to switch from auto to a faster shutter speed to freeze action? Just change the shutter speed, and I don't need to switch to S priority (or manual if I also want to control my aperture). Every setting (Shutter/Aperture/ISO) has an auto mode, and you can switch to or from it directly, without messing with the PASM setting. I feel like that's the real strength of Fuji. If you're running full manual mode all the time, PASM vs Fuji physical dials doesn't make too much of a difference. However, switching to partial or full auto modes is far more inconvenient on PASM, and seamless on Fuji.

@Propaganda_Films

8 ай бұрын

@@thebitterfig9903 As a Fuji user myself, I totally agree with what you said. When I first saw PASM dial on Zf, I was like “Man, this ruins the whole vintage look and user experience of the camera”. Especially that green “Auto” auto switch made me cringe. I love Fuji’s direct control as well. I get to see all exposure triangles at glance without looking for the numbers on LCD screen or digging into menus. I thought that anyone who is not used to the whole vintage camera functionality (like Fuji camera), but wants to experience it, the “PASM and Auto” switches provide them easier transitions.

The only thing I didn't like about the Z fc was the auto ISO changing logic and yet they have not fixed it on the Z f.

Nice comparison. My impression: for the Nikon there is always one switch at the wrong position. Waiting for the Z6III.

Being a Nikon shooter I’m obviously very happy this camera is here. I do own a X100v and Fujifilm have it sown up for customising your settings and have obviously built their systems around retro whereas Nikon are shoehorning what they have. However, there are lenses available now for the Z mount with aperture rings if that’s your thing. Granted the Zf isn’t perfect but it is still a fabulous package and for Nikon users having a system based around what you’re accustomed to is worth so much. Although I think Fujifilm have it sown up it’s not something Nikon need to compete with but having something that’s really cool and in your ecosystem has to be a win win for anyone in that system.

PSAM - works like my Nikon FA from the 80ies. Nothing confusing. 😄 Same for lens mounting...Fuji goes the wrong way. 😄Guess it all depends where you come from, and your willingness to adapt to changes/a different system.

I've had Fujifilm X-T2, X-T4 and now have X-T5 and X-E3 so my muscle memory and camera control is ingrained. I handed the Zf at the weekend. I appreciate it is full frame but It has the heft of a pie eater and the lenses to match. I shoot film on my old 35mm SLRs too and don't feel comfortable without a aperture ring on my lens. I only had 30 mins with the Zf and to me it seemed like a PASM lump that is 'styled' with a retro dial look but not true retro manual function like Fujifilm. The Zf produces images that look superb but I don't think I could give up my bag full of small, fast XF prime lenses. The cost of the Nikon Zf body and three or four Z mount lenses was a bit steep to be honest. Zf looks good but I'm not enthralled about going large in terms of kit weight and cost.