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@villainouschrisk2709

3 жыл бұрын

Ayreon, "The Day That The World Breaks Down". 11 incredible singers in one epic song, including Floor.

@ariesviajedor6562

3 жыл бұрын

Maggie, try reacting to some operatic performances of a countertenor like Philippe Jarrousky or Jakub Jozéf Orliński.

@Metal_Auditor

3 жыл бұрын

​@@villainouschrisk2709 definitely agree with that Ayreon video! Also, I'm going to keep requesting Wintersun's "Time" session from Sonic Pump until she does it.

@trixiebella

3 жыл бұрын

@@villainouschrisk2709 Maggie did this awesome song in March. She gradually edits the live reactions and posts them as she can around her schedule (I'm on her Staff team.) Hope you loved the reaction.

@trixiebella

3 жыл бұрын

@@Metal_Auditor Hi there! I'm on Maggie's staff. If you really want a video the best way is to request it using the links above. Or to join the discord and post it in the request area (link also above.) Have a great day!

Every single song from Nightwish is the prove that Tuomas Holopainen is the most talented composer from our age... Let them say that I lived in the times of Tuomas...

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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@poltergeist9344

Жыл бұрын

Dude dont overshitting

@damianatejerina7144

2 күн бұрын

Totalmente ❤

One of the things I've always loved about this is Floor isn't "singing" the song, she is "performing" the song. You can absolutely tell the difference.

@NickBR57

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Every movement of her hands (for example the Whore for a Cold World sections, particularly the last; the All you need is to feel my love and so on). I've never heard anyone comment on the "Spitting on his grave as they came" which to me is really powerful and she again has the hand action to emphasise it. She is a master of performance, not just singing. But then, they all are!

@jamesanderson5268

3 жыл бұрын

Compare this to the album which was sung by Anette. Huge difference.

@kaosdrachen

3 жыл бұрын

The Dutch suicide prevention line is the phone number 113.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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@matsv201

3 жыл бұрын

Anette got a lot of critisism.. but this is one song she is actually soing rather goos

As someone who battles against depression for almost a decade the "Mother and Father" section always makes me cry. When you are really, really bad only those who love you practically unconditionally can understand and give you some hope.

@frankdenhartog5723

3 жыл бұрын

You are not alone. I am battling against depression for almost three decades. Tuomas has gone through a depression himself. Only him was able to describe what a depression feels like. He is holy! 😘

@richardjohansson2648

3 жыл бұрын

This.. so much this!

@mariodriessen9740

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, not all parents love their children unconditionally. I've met lots of beautiful people who have been scarred for life because of a severe lack of love, or even abuse by their parents.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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@21willyx21

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, actually crying again as watching this reaction to it. Wish I had a similar way of executing a fake suicide as to not commit a real one.

My compliments, Maggie! This was 1 hour 12 minutes and 32 seconds of quality time spent in the best way possible! I don't know if Tuomas ever talked about this in an interview but I've got a strong feeling the one and only reason Tuomas put this song on the setlist for this tour was that he finally had a front woman who could do it justice.

@Marko-the-Beast-Master

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, she's great. She takes the trouble to look up the lyrics and the circumstances under which the song was written, and we're really interested in that too. That alone sets it apart from other wannabe reactions who are just trying to feed on the subject.

Jesus! Can't ask for a better review than this. Your operatic voice is stunning. And the fact that you sing and teach people the difference between what fully opera voice is like compared to the tonality she sings is incredible.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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This was the best reaction on a Nightwish song I‘ve ever heard and seen. Nobody has ever given so much background information to this song. It was a complete new experience to re-listen the song again with all the background in mind. Floor and Tarja know each other and as far as I know they‘re also friends. Can you imagine how it felt like for her to sing this song with the band? I have just subscribed to your channel after this video.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Floor is a metal goddess love her. Prefect reaction.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! 🤘😜🎶

Not only the most emotional song but the best reaction I've seen yet

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

That's very kind of you. Thank you. 🥰

@tomnagel5769

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggiereneemusic PS you also have a beautiful voice

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. 😍

This is a ride through a deep depression. The chaos of thoughts - fast and slow - high voices, low voices, desperation, sadness - and hope!! This is so brilliant composed - and executed!!! Your reaction might be the best on the net - I have not seen any coming even close - so perfect perfect 👌 👍 🤘 🤘 This song is really showing the strength and possibilities in Symphonic Metal!! And you are spot on - on the ending. If you compare with "Shoemaker" where she goes fully operatic - the difference is obvious - you are spot on 👌 The ending is Floor's interpretation of how it should be - Tuomas are always giving Floor the responsibility / freedom to do it her way - he trust her completely!!

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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This was an epic reaction with unmatched depth and breadth to match the incredible performance in this video. Thank you and all who participated. Also, just WOW!

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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@robinlynnfox2807

2 жыл бұрын

That gives me chills when he makes the slash action against his throat! I want to cry!

The mother asking when her son became so cold is the part that really hits. We all become so good at hiding, that when it overcomes us, even those closest to us don't expect it.

Opening Section : Lead boy soprano: Guy Elliott; later on spoken part about Tuomas erased text: is 2nd boy soprano: Tom Williams, both courtesy of the Reigate St Mary's Choir School

The fact the band was so emotional after Tarja exited tells me all I really need to know. Tarja acted like she had simply changed her shoes. Nightwish was devastated on an emotional level and Tuomas captured that in this masterpiece. But it was all for a reason. Despite Marco taking his break, nightwish is in the best place they’ve ever been with Floor. She posses the talent and ability to really perform their unique form of symphonic metal. Tarja was very good, but she couldn’t flex the pop style as well as Floor. Anette was to far on the other side of the spectrum as well. Floor is the vocalist they always needed.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Still the best reaction I've seen to this- And I've probably seen them all.

The “oceans within” part kills me every single time 😢 the entire rest of this song shows you what may have happened had this mother father part not taken place. Without that one conversation we might not still be enjoying nightwish today. This clearly shows you how he was standing at that fork in the road. I’ve been there, and anyone else here that’s also been there will tell you that there’s that one conversation for us all. Love him so much, not for the fact he wrote it but for the fact he wrote it and put it out there for everyone who needs to hear this message. ❤

Before Tuomas wrote The Poet and The Pendulum, he wrote "Dead Boys' Poem". Regarding this earlier song, Tuomas said "This is the most personal song I've ever written. My testimony for the whole world. With this song I want to apologise everyone who deserves my apology. It also makes an "I don't care" -statement to them who deserve it. The song is also about what Nightwish means and has meant to me. It's all, without it I'm dead. I have created it and it has created me. When I pass away, this song's lyrics are of what I wish to be remembered. An Ocean Soul." - before he wrote The Poet and The Pendulum.... Did Tarja ever read/hear/understand that?... now check out the lyrics of "Bye Bye Beautiful" and "Master Passion Greed".... Marko, Jukka and Emppu all signed the letter and had said earlier "She goes or we go". 26:02 the boy soprano is Guy Elliott from St Mary's Reigate Choir School! Marko sang all of the demo of this song - darker, dirtier and angrier! Wouldn't Marko make a great Herod or Caiaphas in JCSS? .... or Judas? 🌊

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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AWESOME WINDMILL!!

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!! 🤘😜💃

pausing and talking is great. there are plenty of reactors who just sit there throughout the songs, just nodding along, not saying anything. this song in particular is subject to copyright strikes, so frequent pauses are recommended. look fab in red. saw some other performances of this song in other places. no matter where, no matter how many times they perform it, Emmpu checks in with Tuomas every time.

The greatest thing about Marco is the way his voice is explained... different. His voice is different. And it's so true. No one could ever duplicate Marco's voice

Great work MR. I think you're the only reactor who has gone through the whole sad backstory of the song so thoroughly on your reaction video. Kiitos.

@frankdenhartog5723

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, you have to check out the reactions of Chase Carneson, The Charismatic Voice and The Big Brain Singer in special. MR added her own bit on this masterpiece.

@themajor743

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankdenhartog5723 Agreed. Chase in particular did a really thoughtful in-depth reaction.

@jorluo

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankdenhartog5723 I have watched all those videos and I love them. They are great. We have no idea how much time each reactor has spent to research the backstory beforehand, but as I said, I still think Maggie Reneé spent more time talking about the subject on her video than any of those reactors you mentioned. About 25 minutes, before she even started watching the NW video. She even showed and read the letters completely for the viewers.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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The best reaction i have ever seen of any nightwish song, and I have seen almost all of them.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind comment. I appreciate it! 🥰

Thanks for this beautiful reaction. 🙏🏻 I always tear up at the end, especially when I see Tuomas sing: tried to save them all 🥲

@trixiebella

3 жыл бұрын

It was so emotional! Loved it.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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About the "I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more." I've heard that it would refer to Tarja. She was very, very dear to Tuomas. And that line refers to him being able to cry to her but at this moment he cannot because the shoulder is not there and is also in pain, hence "'cause the shoulder cries more".

I've been a fan of Nightwish very shortly after they were formed. Found out about them pretty fast since Finland is our neighbour and have been there more times then I can mention. Love the country, love the people. Nightwish was something different, a sailing ship in ocean full of steamers. Their style, their music, lyrics - all was different, unique. Loved Tarja as their singer. When this event occurred what is mentioned in that letter, I was sad but I remained behind the band. I acknowledged that only ones who know what's best for them, what needs to be done and how to move forward - and only ones who have any say in this - is the band. It was a sad thing, sure, and raised a serious concern if the band will continue, but they did, with Anette Olson. I was glad that they were still there, still showing to us their magic. For a short time I received very little news about Nightwish and when I saw them again, Floor Jansen was with them. I remember thinking "Wait, this isn't Anette, is it Nightwish?". It was. And then Floor sang. And very first thought I had was "This is Nightwish at their best, they've been always extremely good, but now they're above extremely good. Way above." Have my Nightwish ticket ready and waiting for their show here this year, assuming that the blasted virus doesn't play tricks and shuffle things around.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Great reaction. For a fun song next try "I want my tears back" from Buenos Aires in 2019. That will get all of the sadness out of you. And, as a bonus, you get to see Troy.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your suggestion!😁

@fixxa6455

3 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the reaction. Super post

All news to me as I just discovered this band a month ago. I've taken a deep dive in the band since. I feel that Floor is the best blend between of the first two singers. Ultimately a win for all parties concerned.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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@damianatejerina7144

2 күн бұрын

Cierto equilibrio eso es flor

Thank you for this amazing hour. I was all in...Masterclass reaction :-)

it really makes a difference knowing the story behind this song.. makes it so much more alive understanding where he was coming from!!

The Poet And The Pendulum, Bye Bye Beauriful and Master Passion Greed, listen to these three songs together otherwise you will get a wrong picture of what has happened

After this I think you should visit Ayron - The day the world breaks down. Space metal opera with 11 amazing vocalists! Do not do any prior research!

@revylokesh1783

3 жыл бұрын

I would recommend _"Alive!"_ from the _Theory of Everything_ album.

@trixiebella

3 жыл бұрын

Maggie did the world breaks down. Awaiting edits when she's had time. 😀

@kadmus78

3 жыл бұрын

There is so much more (and a lot better too) in Lucassen's music that seeing just this one song recommended all over the place is starting to become painful...

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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@rientsdijkstra4266

2 жыл бұрын

@@kadmus78 TDTWBD is good starting point?

When Annette preformed this song live one of the times she had problems at home with her kids and etc (don’t remember the full reasoning to be honest) and when she came to the last part of the song (“be still, my son...”) she couldn’t control herself, broke down, cried and went off stage. This song is that powerful. I always get super emotional at this part (especially with floor as the singer no disrespect to Annette but floor’s more classically trained voice is just so prefect for this song...) 🥺

@AndreRighetto2

3 жыл бұрын

Anette lost her son in this day to her ex husband in a justice process. Belo Horizonte, Brazil, 10-nov-2008.

@marieskavo7159

3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreRighetto2 I did not know this. Thank you for the information. So sad. So dramatic. The personal sacrifices that lady did for the band :( I am assuming it was due to her travelling with the band?

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Enjoyed this very much again! Great job on the editing!!

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! Could not have done this without you! 🤘🔥😜

I'm impressed that Thoumas get so much creativity out of this, he's a master of creation and arangment

My interpretation of the "mother & father" part is actually a conversation he has with his mother in the afterlife, where 'home' is his final destination.

Maggie... congratulations... you described many aspects of Night wish genious... very detailed and accurate... unbiased... well done ✅

Floor was needed to bring this song to perfection.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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This is going to be epic!) Can't wait!

Two of your reactions in a row I've watched, and didn't realize an hour went past. Wonderful review, and thank you.

Hi Maggie, thank you for this lovely reaction. I appreciate so much you wanted to find out the background story of the band and all that information what happened earlier. This is a song which brings up tears every time I hear it. You mentioned Marko and his singing. How about one Nightwish song where Marko sings the whole song - Islander - Tampere 2015. He has truly a great voice. See you soon.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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It's really cool. You're young, but so knowledgeable. We love to listen to you sing. You may actually help my wife get into Classical and Opera. Nightwish Army, Pennsylvania, USA reporting.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

I am so glad. Thank you for your lovely comment. 💃🎶

Floor has a very special voice and a unique abilty to perform songs with so much empathy and understanding of what and how the song has to sound to give it that last undefinable quality to all of the songs, she makes YOU FEEL tha song as well, and not just in this song

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Nailed the windmill! :-) xo And, your voice is absolutley stunning. What a wonderful and insightful reaction!

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Wow ! You nailed it ! 🤘 Thank you for this 🤘👍

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Solid windmill, Maggie!

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

YAASSS! 🤘😍

If you want more of Marko's singing then High Hopes and While Your Lips Are Still Red.

@Qwarzz

3 жыл бұрын

There's also a lot of his stuff to be heard outside Nightwish. Could have quite a journey just listening him visiting various bands.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Watched it as promised ;) And loved your reaction to this epic performance

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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The best reaction video of Poet and the Pendulum I've seen yet. Thank you!!

This might be my favourite reaction of this song that I've heard so many times. For a couple of reasons, you did it justice. Very good commentary and seeking the meaning. But also because I hadn't heard of you... before someone posted a screencap of the "Thank you Sami" in Nightwish discord asking is this our Sami. lol. Can't take credit on this one, but I have it on my computer to cheer me up if needed. Anyways, have a new subriber. :) Also, awesome windmill. Be proud of it.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

How cool! Welcome Samijuo. That's great how this was posted in the Nightwish discord. I had no idea. Sami is a wonderful Patron of mine who also loves Nightwish. Please join our Patron family www.patreon.com/MaggieRenee to connect and we would love to have you as our Nightwish rep here, lol! 🤘😍

You should react to seven days to the wolves live from Wembley next it's a must have. You will also like I want my tears back. Awesome reaction btw

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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@deed5811

3 жыл бұрын

I Want My Tears Back at Buenos Aires. The band and fans feed off each other and Floor dances like crazy on stage! Insane energy levels!

Just found this. 🌊 I have watched hundreds (if not thousands) of reaction videos. This is the first one I have watched to the end. Well done!

this is probably the most in depth look on this song iv seen to date. i appreciate the homework you did to truly understand the meaning behind the song. thank you for this vid!

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Love your explanations, about the difference between classical and operatic, plus love your voice

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! 😊

I thought, oh no this is a very long reaction. Shall I skip it? But Maggie is great so maybe I won't, and thank you Maggie - I loved it.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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Thank you for the edited version, Maggie. Hope you had a wonderful time in CA. ;-) This song always gets HUUUGE GOOSEBUMPS GOING... Especially this version of the you tube ones. Thank you girl ! And try reaction to I WANT MY TEARS BACK, (Wacken version perhaps...!? ) And the DEAD BOYS POEM in Buenos Aires. Srgnt Emma of the Nightwish Army, reporting in from LAS VEGAS.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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The amount of tears I shed while listening to this masterpiece, was insane.......

Really liked your reaction and views :) Lot's of luck and joy in Santa Fé

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

Excellent reaction! Talking of Dolly Parton (as you did), a little-known fact, she wrote 'I Will Always Love You' AND 'Jolene', in the same afternoon!

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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So glad to see you come back to Nightwish with such a deliberate and respectful deep dive

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Have to tell you how much I appreciate and enjoyed this reaction. This one was right i. Your wheel house and you across confident and informative. Big thumbs up.

Great job as always Maggie! thank you for the windmill laugh too! ✌✌✌

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!🤘🥰

@JB-tc1xw

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggiereneemusic After rewatching this again, don't worry about pausing the video because 1. you have some very important and relevant thoughts to share, you are not just pausing' to hear yourself talk and 2. you are very good at rewinding so it keeps the flow of the song. This song is so deep, it really needs a thorough explanation all the way through the song to catch all the key details of it, both musically and lyrically.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your sweet comment. 🥳

My favorite Nightwish song; so deep.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Nice windmill got me to smile thanks Maggie I needed this it's been along month so far

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Thank you for the reaction and the backstory and the compassion

Watching this reaction makes me wish that you would react to all Nightwish songs and all my favourite songs

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Thank you John! But I have also heard, that "mother and father" part is actually the words from Tuomakses mother.

@themajor743

3 жыл бұрын

There is Toamas meeting with his parents during his time of troubles and there is the allegorical poet meeting with his parents in the afterlife after dieing beneath the blade of Edgar A. Poe's diabolical machine.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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What a wonderful in-depth background reaction. Thank you!

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! 😊 Hope to see you on my livestream later tonight?

🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊great job as always Maggie! I see something new and hear something amazing every time I listen to their music!

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

👐Thank you so much for your help in the chats!! 😁💖🌊 Can't wait to see you Sunday!

Didn't you do this one? Pretty sure you did. Maybe Dead Boy's Poem (2018 Buenos Aires) instead? You'll appreciate that one.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your suggestion and yes, I did it during a 2+ hour stream so many Nightwish fans liked it and asked for me to post it edited. See you Friday 😍

@bkeyser

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggiereneemusic Ah. Got it. I'll definitely be there. Hope things are going great in Santa Fe!

@SimonPlantinga

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggiereneemusic Not just a live stream. This was also uploaded to KZread in April. So is this a different edit? 🤔

@garionth

3 жыл бұрын

@@SimonPlantinga It was a live stream on YT back then. I think she wants to cut stuff out of the live stream, which have nothing to do with the reaction to the song :)

You have to do " Master passion greed" as well to close that period with Tarja. The song is about Tarja's husband. That song will never be played again. To underdstand this two Songs you have to read the 2 open letters, One from nightwish to Tarja, and one from her to the band, easy to find on the Internet.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Stay tuned. 🤘

@ralfmeyer9086

3 жыл бұрын

And Bye Bye Beautiful. 🤗

@nicod1361

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggiereneemusic curious what your purpose is by asking "Did They Betray Tarja" ? are you trying to start some bitter comments from Tarja fans that are still after 16yrs upset about her departure? There is if your not aware some tension within the fan base from many older NW fans & others that are more than content with Floor.Or just trying to up the views for this re-reaction?

@deed5811

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely give Master Passion Greed a listen. Angry Tuomas is 🔥🔥🔥

@shuriken4852

3 жыл бұрын

If you really want to understand the level of rage and frustration caused by the Tarja firing, Master Passion Greed can explain it better than any explanation.

I am a old school Nightwish fan. I saw them live first time as a starting bad in a fairly small club and fell in love with the sound and well.... Tarja's voice. So the break up hurt me back in those day when it happened. I have a huge appreciation towards what the band has become after that and I think it might be the best band in the world today. Huge thanks for doing this great song in the way I think it should be done even though it is incredible without knowing the background. Thanks for this great video and showing the world what a reaction video can be. All the best and even though this comes way too late I think after this song hugs are in order for you Maggie and all the awesome people watching the vid.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. Did you like the new Nightwish video I just posted? Will you be there for my 195K Celebration Live Stream tomorrow?

This is the song that got me hooked on Nightwish.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Ha your windmills are getting really good! Isn't this a masterpiece? Cathartic I'm sure

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Two words" Great Stuff"! One of the best songs ever written! Why isn't this up with "Bohemian Rhapsody", and all the others? In a Top 1000, this should be at least no: 2 if Bohemian Rhapsodie is no: 1.

@michaeldougherty2807

2 жыл бұрын

Should The Greatest Show on Earth be #1?

@northof4912

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldougherty2807 Please! Love TGSOE but…….. Bohemian Rhapsody……..

I've been a subscriber for a while now, and I have always enjoyed your reactions. Today though, I realized that I think I love you! You are a b-e-a-utiful soul. Thank you so much for the detail and well thought out reaction.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

So glad you enjoyed my video! Hope to see you tomorrow morning for my Premiere of a reaction video?

Great reaction Maggie ! Thank you

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! 😊

Found you with Dimash and stayed because of Nightwish, I adore them PS: as you read the letter i thought to myself: Tarja was too much of a diva back then, not necessarily in a bad way, but in a way where she felt the need to be the center of the attention, not just a singer to Tuomas's songs, she needed to do her own thing and be her own boss

@karolinak6014

3 жыл бұрын

I think threre is also the other side of the story. She got married and she became tired of them touring in one bus, always drunk, partying loud etc. Also I think Tuomas was in love with her and he couldn't stand the situation with Marcelo, he was friendzoned. That's only my hypothesis however, not a fact.

@missrubyphoenix

3 жыл бұрын

@@karolinak6014 always drunk? Wow

@karolinak6014

3 жыл бұрын

@@missrubyphoenix don't know, haven't been there, I read this side of story somewhere and can believe it was true at some point.

@missrubyphoenix

3 жыл бұрын

@@karolinak6014 we will never know what truly happened back then, but im glad its all over

@Hreimdal

3 жыл бұрын

@@karolinak6014 And as Tuomas wrote in the letter they were actually fine with the fact that she wasn't touring with them in the bus but traveling by plane with her husband and everything. But there was no communication between her and the rest of the band for the last year or so. She only showed up, performed the arranged shows then left again. You can only go on for so long in a band that is supposed to be a tight unit with someone that you never talk to before things are taken to a breaking point which they obviously reached. Anyways, things happens for a reason and these events are in the past. The band has moved on, Tarja has moved on and i think its time all of us fans move on as well :)

Why was the letter made public, you ask. Here is the explanation. Tarja was loved by the fans, and lots of them idolized here to such an extent that they really believed that Tarja’s talent was the sole reason for the band’s success. The fanbase believed that she on her own was responsible for the success and they believed that the band would not be able to survive without her. Of course this is all far besides the truth. Tarja’s talent is obvious, but the existance of a band is not defined by a vocalist only. There are countless examples of bands who survived a change of vocalist. And yet the fanbase was living in their own reality at this point. This was the reason for the band (or Tuomas) to publish the letter. They felt that they had to explain to the fans that she could indeed be missed and the reasons why, and that the band would indeed continue without her. They felt they were obliged to give some explanation because they felt they needed to bring the extremely idolizing fans back into reality. However they never expected it to backfire as tremendously as it did.

@TheRealRedAce

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently, Tarja thought that as well!

@timometsanoja9666

3 жыл бұрын

They did not have to publish that at all. It would have been just water under the bridge if they had not made such a big deal out of it. And of course the media jumped on the public trashing as they should and the whirlwind was ready to launch.

@TheRealRedAce

3 жыл бұрын

@@timometsanoja9666 No, some public explanation was VERY necessary for the band and its future. The public idolised Tarja and were unaware of the problems with her.

@Dulkh4n

3 жыл бұрын

This is a pattern of behavior for him, just see how they manage Annette departure...

@TheRealRedAce

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dulkh4n That was totally different and even if it wasn't, twice in 26 years doesn't make a "pattern"!

Maggie, thank you for your informed, intelligent and sensitive commentary. This is what this compositional masterpiece deserved. Subbed and liked.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Beautiful emotionally poignant song. Enjoyed the the reaction immensely can't wait till the next one! Loved the windmill!

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!

Regarding the Tarja / Nightwish breakup, I think Tarja was pretty naïve - if she was saying *to Tuomas* things like "I could leave the band at a moment's notice" and "the next album will be my last one with Nightwish", what the hell did she expect from Tuomas? She was one of the founding members of Nightwish, but Nightwish was Tuomas's baby. And there she was telling him that she would go on her own career without Nightwish. I have no idea why Tuomas, Emppu, Jukka and Marko made their letter public. That can't have been an easy decision. Maybe it was to head off the potential for backlash from the fans (and if this was the case, it really didn't work!). But things must have been bad for Tuomas to say that he *couldn't* write songs for Tarja any more. But it was sixteen years ago now, and I doubt anyone outside of those five people will ever really know what happened.

@FemaleMetalLover

3 жыл бұрын

You need the full context before you call her naive. They had already mutually agreed upon the terms for her departure. When she uttered those words, it was during an argument, and they conveniently left out the parts of what they may have said to cause such a response from her. Her reason for saying that? She kept being neglected, not included in important decisions. Tours would be contracted behind her back on red days which they had already marked on their calendars, and they would notify her after tickets had already been sold. She was notified less than 24 hours in one specific incident even. Even if its agreed how she will step away, there's no excuse for not treating her with respect for the remaining time. Keep in mind, in 9 years with Nightwish they released 5 studio albums. 16 years post-Tarja, they have only released 4. Their schedule was hectic and stressful and she wanted time to focus on her studies and explore her classical endeavors. She was left no room or space to do this, even though Tuomas and the rest of the guys had their own side-projects, but for her it was traitorous? Floor is acting more like a solo artist today than Tarja ever did. Thankfully the guys have matured, but the rules were applied differently and unfairly to Tarja. In the end, even if what they accuse her of was true, does it excuse stringing her along for 9 months and lying to her face, pretending everything is okay only to publicly humiliate her like that? I think you know the answer to that question, but ranting about "how hard it must have been for Tuomas" - does not excuse it. Just like a bullied kid who then bullies someone else is also not an excuse.

@nigeldepledge3790

3 жыл бұрын

@@FemaleMetalLover - Well, you're correct that I don't know the full story. All I can go on is the information that I have come across. Some of what you say there is completely new to me. I don't think any of the other four cancelled a sold-out-months-in-advance concert to do their own side projects, though. And it was (AFAICT) Tarja's choice not to involve herself in some of the day-to-day running of the band. Tuomas's letter even mentions that he and the other three were all OK with her not participating in band rehearsals until they were in the studio; and with Tarja not participating in the songwriting. Although it's not clear, one can read between the lines that there were other discussions occurring when the band got together for rehearsal or songwriting in which Tarja was not involved. Hell, they probably even went out for a few beers without asking Tarja on those occasions. My interpretation of this is that there were ways for Tarja to be more involved in band decisions and discussions that she didn't take advantage of. naïve

@FemaleMetalLover

3 жыл бұрын

@@nigeldepledge3790 There are definitely ways that she could have been more involved, I am not saying she is perfect, not at all. But the way the guys portray the events, its like they tried to apply the shock factor - when it was old news really. Like not being involved in the rehearsals. She was not part in putting the songs together in that summer cabin, that's 100 % true. But by saying only "rehearsals" that leaves room for interpretation that they might also refer to concert rehearsals. And for those, she did show up. Anyway, the point is, they knew already from day 1 she was studying a Masters's program full time. They knew the context and the circumstances, but they laid it out as of it was a new pattern, motivating their actions, but it was not new really. Also - about the sold-out tour in North America. It is vital to know that the whole band, not just Tarja, had agreed mutually to only return there for only 2 weeks top, after having a horrible experience there last time. Surprise surprise, they contract a 4-week long tour and do not notify her. In addition, that tour was contracted on days that were marked red on their shared calendar since long past, and the contract was not coinciding with fees the band usually asks for. Should she have conceded and just carried on and cancel her own pre-scheduled plans, and accept a worse fee than usual? Maybe she should have, for the sake of not causing any more unnecessary tension. But I can totally see how in her mind, she feels like they have already thrown the first stone by neglecting to include it in the negotiation of the contract. Also - it was particular tours in North-America which was straining on her health, not just hers, but all the guys. With horrible accommodation, sometimes no showers or any proper food at the venue. And to do this for 4 weeks with more costs than profit, combined with feeling betrayed and left out. It's not so easy as black/white. Thus, so much unnecessary drama could have been avoided if both parties just communicated a little bit better, and they're both guilty of this. But for the guys to re-tell this story and leave out THEIR part in leading up to these incidents, is an attempt to create a false narrative, and to control it. The easiest factor to understand why one should inject some serious criticism whilst reading their letter, and the book, is the fact that they had millions of opportunities to depart with her gracefully, but choose this path instead.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Tuomas.Troy and Johanna have a new single out from the second album by Auri called Pearl diving..Gotta love Tuomas writing..

THANK YOU Maggie! I did got so much more of this masterpiece, as I watched you, and heard your accurate and genuine comments. I also like those windmills you did, but don´t hurt yourself. I love the way you do these reacts. Greets from Finland. Stay safe.

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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Maggie, as a long time Nightwish fan, Thank you for taking the time to go through all the history behind this song. I remember being completely confused about when Tarja "left" Nightwish, I was young and didn't know about either of the open letters, so thank you for helping me fully understand what happened back then. keep up the amazing reactions and diving into the history on occasion. Cheers from Canada :)

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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If you watch again, keep an eye on the lighting truss. It keeps getting lower and lower (like the pendulum) until the end of the 3 minutes and during the intro to act v they slowly work their way back up out of sight.

@unbekannternutzer25

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I watched this performance so many times and never noticed it 😮

My thoughts come somewhat from the outside... I was there at the beginning of Nightwish in the late '90's and found the sound they created quite fascinating... I liked the overall style quite a bit but I was also in my expansion phase again where I was listening to all sorts of genres and while I had a few "classic favorites" from decades prior, I was not fully enamored to the band. I would catch their new releases and appreciate the music, but I was never really "hooked". I also started seeing the "Diva Tarja" rising after 2001 with "Everdream" and continuing into the Album and tour for "Once"... I find it odd how they always call Tarja's husband Marcelo as an "Argentine businessman" and add "Tarja's personal manager" as an afterthought when he and his partners were in fact a **RECORD LABEL** and Tarja was doing all kinds of projects and gigs outside of Nightwish. I take no offense that Tarja was pursuing other projects but I also believe in fulfilling prior obligations and commitments first. I do place the blame more at Marcelo Cabuli's feet as a record producer and manager for pushing for "compensation" and contributing to Tarja's apparent attitude changes, as this behavior is well known in the music industry worldwide. For Tarja's part, you could see and feel the difference as she would sweep in separate from the band, do her performance, and then sweep out again... There seemed to be little connection left and there appeared precious little dedication to the band she had been in for over 7 years. Some of the points Tuomas made in the letter were also already known through other sources. I remember thinking that they should rename to "Tarja Turunen and Nightwish", even though it was the other band members creating the lyrics and music. I was only marginally impressed by "Once" (and I don't care what other fans think) and I was not really that surprised by them dropping Tarja and even appreciated that they laid out the explanation as to why. I also never really connected with Anette Olzon and kind of lost track of Nightwish for nearly a decade until the first time I heard Floor during their "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" Tour and was hooked back into Nightwish. The other lead singers were great in their own right, but Floor Jansen is still the best singer/performer the band ever had, and it was her performances and dynamicism that brought me fully back into the "Nightwish Army" in recent years. Those are my feelings and opinions and I really don't care about any rebuttals, the band's history is just not that important to get into arguments about. I appreciate them in their current incarnation, just as I appreciate other bands during certain periods of their career as well.

@m.vondrake5534

3 жыл бұрын

I was at a Meet & Greet after a show in California. Tarja and Jukka seemed to be arguing about something in Finnish. They were not smiling and kept shooting eye-daggers at each other. Eventually Tuomas and then Marco said something also in Finnish and they stopped but neither of them smiled the entire time.

@lynnlutz5737

3 жыл бұрын

5/5 reaction. Great job reacting to Tuomus's masterpiece.

@mariastelacampi1758

3 жыл бұрын

I think exactly as you. Nightwish is Always changing and up..... And Floor... oh Floor you're devine!!!!!!!!

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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@Wyl7

2 жыл бұрын

wow… these could have been my own words. Totally there with you, same early experience and feelings about Nightwish, and completely checked out on them after an underwhelming Once. Didn’t “rediscover” them until a couple months ago, when on a whim I watched a Ghost Love Score Wacken 2013 video that randomly showed up in my feed.

Thank you for a great reaction

There is good music, great music, and music that rises to transcendent art. This is a transcendent! Great reaction too. I rarely watch reactions longer than 20-25 min, but this was well worth the hour+ I dedicated to it.

I just feel like the part "Mother and Father" has a double meaning. Tuomas metaphorically use to call the band his Child, so the father and mother would be him and Tarja. We know that these words were said by his mom but, from the phrase 'Search for beauty..." the atmosphere of this part changes and seems like the poetic persona has changed and so has the interlocutor. To me, is like a goodbye message to Tarja... "Search for beauty, find your shore" Find your own way and do it in a good way "Try to save them all" Show your art to all those fans who got lost when we parted ways "Bleed no more" I wish your pain ends at some point "You have such oceans within" You have so much talent "In the end I will always love you" As angry as we are now, in the end, my true feelings will not change

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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What I've noticed about the open letters is that Tuomas' one (signed by the rest of the band) is about things that happened, things that were said, where Tarja's one is purely about emotional response. The two moments that always get to me, "spitting on his grave as they came" and "thank you".

@ktompa77

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed to the full stop!

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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windmill i love it like everything else. thanx to great reaction and happy day there. this song get eyes wet. i still love tarja and all the band.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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Very good reaction. Just subscribed, look forward to more of your other reaction's

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to my channel. Glad you enjoyed. 😊

1 + 1=2, Maggie + Nightwish= Success!!! Did you see how many viewers were here today???!!!!! More than 400 !! Excellent reaction, thanks to Sami, Jon, and of course YOU!! 🤘🤘💖💖🌊🌊

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! Thank you! I appreciate you and can't wait to see you Sunday! 😊💖🌊

@mariomonasterio9454

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggiereneemusic Can't wait to see you too!!! I missed you last Sunday!! 😍💖🎤🎶

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

😍

To me, it's always sounded like the break up happened because Tarja's husband/manager probably demanded a bigger cut for Tarja. I can see why Tuomas would feel slighted by that, especially being that Nightwish is HIS baby. It didn't help things when she'd stop showing up for rehearsals to promote her solo career while she's still in the band! I don't think it was cool releasing the termination letter to the public. But all in all, things ended up working out for the best for everyone.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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@paulmarsh4079

2 жыл бұрын

Master Passion Greed is about tarja's husband....so angry with him.

Wow, you really dug deep in this matter. Great!

Thank you once again for introducing me to this incredibly talented group. This performance was indeed Epic.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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You want operatic symphonic metal. Ayreon The electric castle live and other tales concert. Tower of hope, The mirror maze, as examples. You really should see the whole concert.

@trixiebella

3 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Maggie did Greatest Show on Earth on a live, waiting time to edit around her schedule. It was amazing!

@palantir135

3 жыл бұрын

@@trixiebella yes, I remember now. It was late when I commented.

@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

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@maggiereneemusic

2 жыл бұрын

😊

Thanks for the effort of getting the back story. It pisses me of so bad if people do reactions to this work with no clue what is going on there. Well, after this, it is just The Greatest Show on Earth left. Obviously also doing the back story first, because nothing with Nightwish is just a song. And it must be the best version of the work! Great reaction, I loved so much, regardless all the stops..

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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Great work and approach Maggie.

I think this is your best reaction I have seen you do yet. And your windmill was great too 😊

@maggiereneemusic

3 жыл бұрын

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