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Nightwish - The Kinslayer (Live) [Reaction/Review]

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Lyrics: The Kinslayer
For whom the gun tolls
For whom the prey weeps
Bow before a war
Call it religion
Some wounds never heal
Some tears never will
Dry for the unkind
Cry for mankind
Even the dead cry
Their only comfort
Kill your friend, I don't care
Orchid kids, blinded stare
Need to understand
No need to forgive
No truth no sense left to be followed
Facing this unbearable fear
like meeting an old friend
"Time to die, poor mates,
You made me what I am!"
In this world of a million religions
everyone prays the same way
"Your praying is in vain
It'll all be over soon"
Father help me, save me a place by your side!
"There is no God Our creed is but for ourselves"
"Not a hero unless you die Our species eat the wounded ones"
Drunk with the blood of your victims
I do feel your pity-wanting pain,
Lust for fame, a deadly game
"Run away with your impeccable kin!"
"Good wombs hath borne bad sons"
Cursing, God, why?
Falling for every lie
Survivors' guilt
In us forevermore
Fifteen candles
Redeemers of this world
Dwell in hypocrisy:
"How were we supposed to know?"
Four pink ones
Nine blue ones
Two black ones

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  • @fdsannie
    @fdsannie5 жыл бұрын

    Tuomas wrote this song about the Colombine school shootings in Colorado. He was really upset by what happened.

  • @andrewludwig9251

    @andrewludwig9251

    5 жыл бұрын

    I never knew that -- thanks for sharing! Ann you are a walking Nightwish encyclopedia!

  • @fdsannie

    @fdsannie

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewludwig9251 :-)

  • @zahrans

    @zahrans

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewludwig9251 I have a sneaky feeling Ann is Tuomas in disguise!

  • @alstlew

    @alstlew

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@fdsannie that's awesome. Thanks for the background information. I'm really trying to get them to react to While Your Lips Are Still Red. Shows how good a vocalist Marco is. The version at Wembley - with Marco and Floor duo is so emotional. Marco as main singer and Floor with back up vocals. Am very surprised there are so little reactions to this song in general. Tuomas wrote it for a movie. Lieska. The guitar solo is done by Troy Dockery instead of Emppu. Floor's background vocals take it to another level. I damn near cried when I heard the new version. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4prsq2vZJyZecY.html There is a Wacken version but only with Marco and Tuomas on keyboards. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXtk1sWNhNSroag.html

  • @fdsannie

    @fdsannie

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alstlew You are right about the Wembley version. It is so unbelievable. The first one I saw was the one with scenes from the movie. I must have hit rewind at least 50 times. lol

  • @SR20FTW
    @SR20FTW5 жыл бұрын

    Tarja has such a massive stage presence when she performs unlike any other female singer I've seen to date. She is so natural and ingrained in the performance as well as connected with the audience. Something that is rarely done easily. For me this will forever be the best time for Nightwish fans when she was heading the band.

  • @joshcavaradossi4813

    @joshcavaradossi4813

    5 жыл бұрын

    Totally true!

  • @marja1044

    @marja1044

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree 100%. Saw NW live 2005 and till this day, it is most impressive gig I ever whitnessed live. Tarja was so charismatic and I was captivated throughout the gig. It was truly awesome.

  • @trene6559
    @trene65595 жыл бұрын

    You guys should do a reaction to your first Nightwish reaction.

  • @APREACTS

    @APREACTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    That could be interesting

  • @trene6559

    @trene6559

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@APREACTS You've had a journey since then, that's for sure! 😊

  • @APREACTS

    @APREACTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    Indeed

  • @TheJama64

    @TheJama64

    5 жыл бұрын

    I second that :).

  • @ginnydileo5168

    @ginnydileo5168

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've suggested that too. I think it would be a great idea.

  • @jakobschelling3685
    @jakobschelling36855 жыл бұрын

    Please do Nightwish - Over the Hills and far away - End of an Era !! Guitar and Drums are so epic on this one😍

  • @alexis_r69
    @alexis_r695 жыл бұрын

    I like it.. Wonderful reaction..Tarja love it

  • @yamadojo81
    @yamadojo815 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely epic performance that was as the whole gig of this dvd (that i have of course). Despite loving Floor era too, i miss Tarja as well. Greetings as always guys 🤘

  • @zoltansilling3755
    @zoltansilling37555 жыл бұрын

    The Kinslayer is a tribute to the victims of Columbine High School massacre. Tuomas shocked by this tragic event, because he was an exchange student in U.S. in the early 90's.

  • @paivitee
    @paivitee5 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on 30 k 👍🏻 who’s w me?

  • @APREACTS

    @APREACTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @joshcavaradossi4813
    @joshcavaradossi48135 жыл бұрын

    She onws this song perfectly!

  • @edudario1974
    @edudario19745 жыл бұрын

    Good reaction. End of an era is an amazing concert. It"s epic. It will be interesting to check out the upcoming Nightwish live DVD of the Decades tour. They performed many old songs, the Kinslayer is among them. Getsemane, Dead boy"s poem, The Carpenter , etc. All performed by Floor. I can't wait for that DVD. It will be amazing. And recorded in Colombia and Argentina. I was in the Buenos Aires' concert that day and the crowd... well you know how we are in South America.

  • @babatoa
    @babatoa5 жыл бұрын

    This song is sadly timeless..the song is written by Tuomas Holopainen about the victims of the Columbine High School massacre in April 20, 1999. The dialogue in the middle of the song quotes the actual phrases between the killers and their schoolmates during the shooting. You should watch " bowling for columbine " documentary.

  • @rafaell.atlanticforest603

    @rafaell.atlanticforest603

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was a exchanger in 90s in USA.

  • @Honksu1986
    @Honksu19865 жыл бұрын

    20 sec's into the video and I saw the Salmiakki bottle at the background. Respect!

  • @andersoncorreadasilva1874
    @andersoncorreadasilva18745 жыл бұрын

    😉👍 , suggestion Nightwish - yours is an empty hope , live cruise .

  • @AdrianBumbarov

    @AdrianBumbarov

    5 жыл бұрын

    +1 for this suggestion

  • @flavio_spqr

    @flavio_spqr

    5 жыл бұрын

    + 100 for this suggestion. Actually, I was hopping this would be it...

  • @Nopeahuoli1
    @Nopeahuoli15 жыл бұрын

    That guitar player Emppu vuorinen has other bands too, you should check Brothers Firetribe - heart full of fire (that song even has Nightwishs second singer anette in it) or other songs 😃

  • @TheJama64
    @TheJama645 жыл бұрын

    Btw you still have songs to react from Wacken ;). Hope you will also react to Planet Hell from end of an era. Tuomas said on interview that the music is ready for the new album so there’s gonna be new songs to react for you :).

  • @MrYamaha2306
    @MrYamaha23065 жыл бұрын

    this gig was takening place, our biggest ice hockey hall, about 12t or bit over 13T+ ppl, if it is getting SOLD OUT

  • @OathKeeper95
    @OathKeeper955 жыл бұрын

    React to Bless the child - same concert 😍

  • @mariac.9344
    @mariac.93445 жыл бұрын

    The one Nightwish song that fits Jaime Lannister is probably Ever Dream, probably the second part of Beauty of the Beast too. Yes, I think about Jaime Lannister a lot. :)) PS: this song is about the Columbine massacre.

  • @Ublabaah
    @Ublabaah5 жыл бұрын

    When you want to go back to the more metal side of Nightwish be sure to check out Weak Fantasy live at Wembley. That song kicks ass.

  • @mattikarhunen7382
    @mattikarhunen73825 жыл бұрын

    Well, Tarja is bit to metal what Bruce Lee is to kung fu.

  • @pyro_sky9362
    @pyro_sky93625 жыл бұрын

    Pleas Rammstein - Rammlied (Madison Square Garden) 🤘

  • @pantoon123
    @pantoon1235 жыл бұрын

    Amazing Song, best singer in my opinion. Just E P I C

  • @TheZachh
    @TheZachh5 жыл бұрын

    Great reaction as usual. MORE NIGHTWISH. You should do "Ghost Love Score" from the End Of An Era version just to contrast with Floor's version. This DVD the audio mix is perfect, so you can hear all the KEYS, BASS, DRUMS, etc. its wonderful. Plus Tuomas has some epic solos in this version that you don't see much in other live clips. The climax isn't there since Tarja leaves the stage in the middle of a note but otherwise its great sound wise. You guys would enjoy it. Thanks!

  • @Lerssinen
    @Lerssinen5 жыл бұрын

    ROOTS of NIGHTWISH, the real and only good gathering of this band !

  • @magnetik9228
    @magnetik92285 жыл бұрын

    "Running Wild - The brotherhood" Pleeeeeeese, guys!!!

  • @elmachingon
    @elmachingon5 жыл бұрын

    I love your T-shirt "Make Power Metal great again" Stratovarius still doing great power

  • @folklore.evermore3
    @folklore.evermore35 жыл бұрын

    Guys you have to check out The Kinslayer from the live ' from wishes to eternity ' , that version is much faster and much epic than End of An Era !

  • @oraculodeavalon
    @oraculodeavalon5 жыл бұрын

    I really love your Nightwish Sunday and this song is a master piece as all Nightwish songs. And as I said before your reactions videos are amazing. Maybe some day you could do a reaction video with some Ayreon songs like Age of Shadows, Beneath the Waves, Day Two: Isolation or The Day That The World Breaks Down. Thank you guys. Love your channel ❤❤

  • @canalquandosurgeoalviverde2423
    @canalquandosurgeoalviverde24234 жыл бұрын

    How Do not love this woman?

  • @saghistick
    @saghistick5 жыл бұрын

    The Kin(g)slayer was here, the guy wasn't king for a long time, almost just King for a Day (Battle Beast), so the Death of a King (Amorphis) happened... Good pick, good reaction!

  • @ddcarpenter1790
    @ddcarpenter17905 жыл бұрын

    Also Powerwolf has some new videos for their most recent album that came out oct 2018

  • @thisusernamenowtaken
    @thisusernamenowtaken5 жыл бұрын

    Catching up with _reactions_ of yours I forgot to watch *over* the last "1 month", with quick comments, *part 1:* Emppu (the guitarist) has been using _that_ pose as long as I remember - that is since I first saw them live circa *2000* I'd be disappointed if he stopped :)

  • @joshuacoe8235
    @joshuacoe82355 жыл бұрын

    Another masterpiece! Hoping to one day see you guys react to Promethean - The Nameless Colour.

  • @pmasher
    @pmasher5 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually surprised you guys haven't done Yours is an Empty Hope - Live (with Floor) yet. You two will love it. Maybe cause it's not from Wacken :P

  • @shanefoleyyyyy
    @shanefoleyyyyy5 жыл бұрын

    Jason Richardson & Luke Holland - Tendinitis!

  • @staticbus944
    @staticbus9445 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, you will Love this vídeo (and the song as well): Demons on you by Tarja turunen(ex Nightwish) feat Alissa white gluz. Abraços do BRASIL.

  • @user-ll6ys3zw2e
    @user-ll6ys3zw2e5 жыл бұрын

    Rammstein - Amerika, Volkerball, Les Arenes de Nimes 2005!

  • @natashaweikath1487
    @natashaweikath14875 жыл бұрын

    What a Brilliant song by their best singer, in my humble opinion. I think they sacked her straight after this show. When you get a chance check out Haggard Awakening the Centuries, I believe they are of a genre which you may not have done before. Have a lovely day.

  • @bildertattoo

    @bildertattoo

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or something from agalloch or pillorian

  • @user-su6wy3bj4v

    @user-su6wy3bj4v

    5 жыл бұрын

    Please don't say "best singer" in a Nightwish-related video. There's a comment war that's been going on about that subject since 2005 xD

  • @natashaweikath1487

    @natashaweikath1487

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@user-su6wy3bj4v Well I did say in my humble opinion, but as a huge Helloween fan I know what you are going through and what you mean, have a nice day.

  • @user-su6wy3bj4v

    @user-su6wy3bj4v

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@natashaweikath1487 uhh? :D No, no. I was just joking because people always fight over nightwish in the youtube comments section

  • @josedavidfalcon1974

    @josedavidfalcon1974

    5 жыл бұрын

    Love Haggard ❤

  • @pavolridrich3434
    @pavolridrich34345 жыл бұрын

    Theocracy - The Mirror Of Souls (with lyrics) Celesty - Legacy Of Hate pt3

  • @tarmotyyri6733
    @tarmotyyri67335 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Have you guys already watched these "Nightwish Live At Wacken Open Air 2018" kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYCIwdZtdpXJZ5M.html and "NIGHTWISH - Full Set Performance - Bloodstock 2018" kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZygp8ivkpDHaNY.html P.S. I think that the missing G was added when the kinslayer found her sister's G-spot and became kingslayer.

  • @meantimppa320
    @meantimppa3205 жыл бұрын

    Nothing wrong with comparison of Tarja and Bruce Lee... Immortals both!

  • @GabrielaHernandez-kj3ip
    @GabrielaHernandez-kj3ip5 жыл бұрын

    Xandría-Sacrificium

  • @nemo__8828
    @nemo__88285 жыл бұрын

    More Nightwish💙

  • @zoltansilling3755
    @zoltansilling37555 жыл бұрын

    Tarja has a better voice than Bruce Lee. :D

  • @MrMasapoika
    @MrMasapoika5 жыл бұрын

    Please react to Nightwish - Kiss while your lips are still red live version! Marcos beautiful voice in its glory

  • @petertapola8097
    @petertapola80975 жыл бұрын

    One more Finnish band for you to react to: Heavy Metal Perse: "Vainolaista Vastaan". Short, but epic song. Try it, you won't regret it :)

  • @stpftw1

    @stpftw1

    5 жыл бұрын

    heavy metal perse is great!

  • @Bashi88

    @Bashi88

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Heavy Metal Ass", this should get Pedro's attention. Hopefully 8-)

  • @kwbigbob
    @kwbigbob5 жыл бұрын

    Dax/Hopsin drops tomorrow be there #youaintreadyforit

  • @samusuihkonen2638
    @samusuihkonen26385 жыл бұрын

    React to Rifftera-Eye of the Storm you guys gonna love it

  • @ser.vel.2511
    @ser.vel.25115 жыл бұрын

    Fucking epic man ¡¡¡¡¡¡

  • @adamdriverlatinoamerica8836
    @adamdriverlatinoamerica88365 жыл бұрын

    please react to Nightwish Shudder Before the Beautiful live at Wembley !!!

  • @babatoa
    @babatoa5 жыл бұрын

    Try anything from "From Wishes To Eternity DVD" by Nightwish. Maybe Wanderlust.

  • @warhammer5690
    @warhammer56905 жыл бұрын

    Intsresting factoid. Tarja is a martial arts fan. So she could have been inspired by Game of Death.

  • @muhamadapriyanto1
    @muhamadapriyanto15 жыл бұрын

    Please react nightwish stargazers live

  • @checpneumo5261
    @checpneumo52615 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys you should make cry my name by bloodbath live at Rockpalast 2018 please!!!

  • @bassieadrieaan2430
    @bassieadrieaan24305 жыл бұрын

    please do nightwish - yours is an empty hope. best wishes from FRYSLAN.

  • @Kotikutomo
    @Kotikutomo5 жыл бұрын

    You should do Kingston wall video!

  • @marciusnhasty
    @marciusnhasty5 жыл бұрын

    Tyrion Lannister is kinslayer (killed his own father). Jamie also killed his cousin, so he is kinslayer as well. Game of Thrones have all types of slayers covered... ^^

  • @APREACTS

    @APREACTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @gh8447

    @gh8447

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, but do they have Brittney Slayes? 😃

  • @flampy1
    @flampy15 жыл бұрын

    Make Wilderun - The Means to Preserve great again!!

  • @aliyahburnette8231
    @aliyahburnette82315 жыл бұрын

    Can you please react to storytime nightwish live in Tampere.

  • @unbeatableegghead1974
    @unbeatableegghead19745 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to keep trolling you until you do Troldhaugen - Viva Loa Vegas I saw someone react to this song on another reaction channel, and immediately went and downloaded all their albums. Not a very well-known band, but very creative and talented. They are from Australia. Very similar style to TrollfesT, but perhaps more experimental, crazy, and catchy if you can imagine that. They might be my favorite of all the troll bands you have reacted to so far. Oh, and if Finntroll, Trollfest, Trollwar, and Troldhaugen all did a tour together, it could be called "The Tetra-Trolling Tour." You may be annoyed by my trolling now, but trust me, you will thank me later. That is, if you can ever trust a troll.

  • @AzelasEM
    @AzelasEM5 жыл бұрын

    I think you guys should do a re-reaction to Ghost Love Score. Let's call it a "review" more than reaction. See how your feelings changed from the first time.

  • @Piia2023
    @Piia20235 жыл бұрын

    This song is for the victim s of Columbine shool schooting. Sadly we have had in Finland two school shootings, where 20 students was killed. If you wanna see Tuomas go crazy on the keyboards...check out a video Phantom Of The Opera in Italy...😁 If I am.not mistaken Emppu has the same or similar black jacket at the Tampere concert 2015.

  • @PatrickHutton
    @PatrickHutton16 күн бұрын

    LOL nothing to do with GOT. "Good wombs hath born bad sons" what a line!

  • @ddcarpenter1790
    @ddcarpenter17905 жыл бұрын

    Do wishmaster for next sunday!

  • @ShadowhispersBand
    @ShadowhispersBand5 жыл бұрын

    Guys, you still missing a really big thing. You're into Nightwish, Epica, Blind Guardian, Queensryche, etc. But you still missing a really big one. Ayreon. You need to do Ayreon. It's a project with many singers. I won't say more... For a light first one, I recommend Everybody dies live kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3V1utaOlLCdqKg.html For something more epic: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXqpr62dot22obg.html I'd even dare you to watch it blind-folded and try to recognize the singers. I think you know most of them

  • @tomashribolaznik5381
    @tomashribolaznik53815 жыл бұрын

    This is REAL NIGHTWISH,with TARJA!!!!

  • @donignacio1384
    @donignacio13845 жыл бұрын

    Please react to the song "throttle" of within the fire !!!!!

  • @vulturmusic99
    @vulturmusic995 жыл бұрын

    Is the better version in dvd live 2001

  • @gulixy
    @gulixy5 жыл бұрын

    The only problem with tarja was her goofy moves on stage, other than that, she was perfect.

  • @Nazgul-mu8dc
    @Nazgul-mu8dc5 жыл бұрын

    Do Creeks Mary's Blood!!!!

  • @debrakurenai588
    @debrakurenai5885 жыл бұрын

    Please react to X Japan’s song Kurenai from The Last Live. You will not be sorry. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @SuperFireshield
    @SuperFireshield5 жыл бұрын

    Its more depend on tipe of songs..early songs are better with tarja because they darker and her voice fits perfectly...later heavier songs fits more to floor...also on the live shows floor is better-more versatile voice...on studio albums tarja is better they can capture tarjas powerfull voice way better and its more stable there...just my opinion(that i know is right:)

  • @bjrnhagen2853
    @bjrnhagen28535 жыл бұрын

    just a question do you always shake yur head when listen to music.or just on video ;) ?

  • @APREACTS

    @APREACTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    Always, sometimes I dance as well, and slam dance. I look like I am having a stroke

  • @bjrnhagen2853

    @bjrnhagen2853

    5 жыл бұрын

    hehe ok so you dont need to go to the gym ;)

  • @APREACTS

    @APREACTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    I still should hit the gym but I can’t bring myself to it

  • @dodgrblu
    @dodgrblu5 жыл бұрын

    Kamelot - Memento Mori

  • @borjekurtssonjonsson4186
    @borjekurtssonjonsson41865 жыл бұрын

    React to Gormathon - Land of the Lost!

  • @starsword-c2534
    @starsword-c25345 жыл бұрын

    You guys should react to "Paradise (What About Us?)", Within Temptation with Tarja Turunen (same singer as in the "Kinslayer" video). kzread.info/dash/bejne/dq1qr9KsdLOxpNY.html

  • @JapePelaa
    @JapePelaa5 жыл бұрын

    Please drink that bottle already w/reaction - and then do a review of it

  • @TheJama64
    @TheJama645 жыл бұрын

    The Kinslayer is written about the victims of the Columbine High School massacre.

  • @josedavidfalcon1974
    @josedavidfalcon19745 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaa Bruce Lee

  • @mjpmattos
    @mjpmattos5 жыл бұрын

    The "From Wishes to Eternity" version is way better...

  • @helloween599
    @helloween5995 жыл бұрын

    Nothing react to nighwish 2001 dvd, al react to Nightwish end era or wacken.... and 2001 is the best era... powerfull and dark

  • @hamishalexander5048

    @hamishalexander5048

    3 жыл бұрын

    but the sound back there is old i loved this time... but now i prefer new version 2013 +-.....

  • @TheJudas71
    @TheJudas715 жыл бұрын

    If you liked this, you should check out this song from 2001. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHWAss2mY9a6oNI.html

  • @robertkozik6255
    @robertkozik62555 жыл бұрын

    Finsterforst - Mach Dich Frei

  • @alstlew
    @alstlew5 жыл бұрын

    Please react to Nightwish at Wembley - While Your Lips Are Still Red. Marco and Floor duo. Marco as main singer and Floor with back up vocals. Am very surprised there are so little reactions to this song. Tuomas wrote it for a movie. Lieska. I swear you won't regret it. Really shows how good a vocalist Marco is and the guitar solo is done by Troy Dockery instead of Emppu. Original was just Marco. Floor's background vocals take it to another level. I damn near cried when I heard the new version. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4prsq2vZJyZecY.html There is a Wacken version but only with Marco and Tuomas on keyboards. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXtk1sWNhNSroag.html

  • @jonis1203
    @jonis12035 жыл бұрын

    Thank god Floor is singer now ...

  • @Moonlight_shine7

    @Moonlight_shine7

    5 жыл бұрын

    Floor managed very well to murder kinslayer and many others xD

  • @MrGeirPaulsen
    @MrGeirPaulsen5 жыл бұрын

    10th man down !! This gem does not get any love :/

  • @MartinKopilec11
    @MartinKopilec115 жыл бұрын

    I like Tarja and dont get me wrong, this is just not song for Tarja. This is song for Floor and Marco. You should hear them to sing this song. I did, and it is 1000% better.

  • @Moonlight_shine7

    @Moonlight_shine7

    5 жыл бұрын

    I heard them and is sooo weird, floor voice doesn't fit at all.

  • @akukemppainen1458
    @akukemppainen14585 жыл бұрын

    Old Nightwish 👍 new nightwish 👎

  • @rareacts9868
    @rareacts98685 жыл бұрын

    Nightwish with Tarja sucks. Floor Jansen took this band to a higher level.

  • @grrrexky

    @grrrexky

    5 жыл бұрын

    You should check some early Nightwish where Tarja came out with force kzread.info/dash/bejne/nauhw9SLk9izndo.html

  • @Moonlight_shine7

    @Moonlight_shine7

    5 жыл бұрын

    NW with Tarja was epic. NW with floor is just another European normal band