NEW: X-Plane 12 - First Helicopter Flight and Quick Review

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X-Plane 12 is out. At least as an early access version. Join me on my first flight with the default Robinson R22 Beta II. How is the native Helicopter Flight Model of XP12 compared to its predecessor? Did they fix VRS? How about performance...
My Specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz
16 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
Enjoy!

Пікірлер: 64

  • @HeliSimmer
    @HeliSimmer Жыл бұрын

    The R-22 is a pleasant surprise. Laminar did a good job with the dynamics on this little guy.

  • @marcoabbiate5213

    @marcoabbiate5213

    Жыл бұрын

    Im a r22 pilot, my mission is to build a full motion VR simulator of r22. Do you think is this r22 on xplane 12 better than ipacs?

  • @HeliSimmer

    @HeliSimmer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcoabbiate5213 hey there! I can't make a comparison based on the real helicopter as I don't fly the R22. I am waiting on feedback from a couple of pilots that fly the model as they can provide me with great feedback.

  • @marcoabbiate5213

    @marcoabbiate5213

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HeliSimmer I will let you know, I’m planning to finish the simulator at the end of December. I will also go to Switzerland to try the Vrm r22 simulator developed by Claude Vuichard👍🏻

  • @HeliSimmer

    @HeliSimmer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcoabbiate5213 oh please say hi to the guys for me! I'm looooong overdue on another visit myself.

  • @sebastiensteiner7923
    @sebastiensteiner7923 Жыл бұрын

    Great news that X-Plane 12 is out now. I know you did some videos on the Lama with X-Plane 11. I saw today a new version of the Lama (V2. 0) that is compatible with X-Plane 12. I will be very interested in a commented flight with the new version and some comparison with the previous one. Thanks again for your great videos. Always something to learn.

  • @sebastiensteiner7923

    @sebastiensteiner7923

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @michaelcolletti790
    @michaelcolletti790 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the demonstration! I’ve always shied away from helicopter flight in X Plane. I’m just not good at it and tend to lose control. You’ve proved that successful flight is not only possible, but can be achieved like an expert. Excellent job of piloting! Can’t wait to give this a try!

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, happy to hear that. Have fun learning helicopters! Check out my tutorial series "How to fly a helicopter in a sim" for a few tips...

  • @michaelcolletti790

    @michaelcolletti790

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenerdyhelisimmer4608 I absolutely will check out your tutorial! Many Thanks!

  • @lukelucas68
    @lukelucas68 Жыл бұрын

    I will get xp12 and keep xp11 on my backup drive. Thanks for your very informative videos!

  • @insanebase8883

    @insanebase8883

    Жыл бұрын

    If you're only in it for the flying, you are probably better off keeping XP11 and putting 12 on your backup drive until more sceneries, aircraft and plugins have been ported over.

  • @TheShmuTube
    @TheShmuTube Жыл бұрын

    Hey, glad I found this channel. Helis deserve more love! Would you ever be interested in making a sim recommendation list? I try to hunt down heli sims, but fixed wing tends to occupy a lot of the sim market. I'm super curious about X12's helis and heli games coming soon like the little indie project "Thunder Helix". Thanks!

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    The best sims for helicopters: Xplane 11/12, DCS & Aerofly FS2 (... very limited scenery and aircraft). Let's see how MSFS does whith their helicopter implementation...

  • @Madnot4
    @Madnot4 Жыл бұрын

    I love the helicopter flight model! It makes me really happy lol

  • @peterstrempel4922
    @peterstrempel4922 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding your comment that you don't know about the JRX update policy: JRX had announced to update the Bo 105 and Gazelle for free for X-Plane 12, see sticky posts in their forum. Very customer-friendly. Still in work as they did not have access to a pre-release version of X-Plane 12, if I understood them right. Personally, I can wait a bit longer until my most important helicopters & planes have been ported (the Bo-105 is my favourite). Expecting JRX to have the update ready after two days is of course unrealistic. Thanks for your videos, enjoying them a lot.

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Peter, that's great news 👍👍

  • @macjoe4448
    @macjoe4448 Жыл бұрын

    I had the HOTs for it... but now.... I think I will wait!

  • @SunTzuBrazil
    @SunTzuBrazil Жыл бұрын

    Please make a video with the S-76 of XP12 👍🏻

  • @ellonysman
    @ellonysman Жыл бұрын

    Isnt the R22 synonymous with danger? lol. I subscribed so maybe I can learn new things as a rotorhead, for the October MFS2020 Guimbal Cabri and Bell 407. Cheers

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to have You on board ✌

  • @insanebase8883
    @insanebase8883 Жыл бұрын

    So far I liked what I saw, very nice for a first Beta, but it is - as you could expect - still a bit rough around the edges. The new weather system and clouds are certainly the most interesting part, even with the issus that are still in it. Looking forward to where it will end up. It runs surprisingly well on my rig, although until now I only flew it purely stock without any add-ons.

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, haven't checked out the wheather engine yet. Promising from what I read...

  • @TR_P
    @TR_P Жыл бұрын

    They said the VR isn't ready yet and it sure isn't, I like the R-22's flight model but I can only experience it in potato on my headset. XP11, DCS frame rates in VR currently kick the living crap out of XP12. I wonder what the timeline is to exit beta?

  • @mrprering7828
    @mrprering7828 Жыл бұрын

    Great to see you in 12 and that your rig can actually keep up pretty well! (I myself run an older GPU, a 1070) it appears to me that the performance of 12 is plain better out of the box than 11, I would mostly credit this to laminar finally including MSAA as the standard AA option rather than the incredibly frame costly SMAA the framerates for me have also improved and become more consistent as the beta versions went by (last tried beta 12) My experience with the flight model has been similar, it just feels more natural than 11, I've been liking JRX' Bo105 in 12 so far even though he only published a compatibility hotfix for it rather than a full XP12 version which he only wants to release once v12.00 is final The scenery update for 12 is still to be implemented, though, post release of v12.00 as said by laminar... it wont be anything wild but it supposedly will improve the looks of the default scenery by introducing higher resolution ground textures and more variety in them across the globe not too smart marketing wise imho because it will release XP12 in a state that is much closer to 11 and doesnt reflect austins remarks about 12 being "all new" perhaps they should've kept 12 in beta until they had the scenery update ready but apparently they felt the need to publish by this december

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it seemed clear from early on XP12 could not compete visually with MSFS even with the new features (seasons, 3D Vegetation etc.). Still they have a very good helicopter implementation but the gap closes. MSFS now has heli support and while their B407 was rather dissapointing the Cabri G2 is done quite well. Not yet XP standard but definetly good enough to explore and enjoy the MS visuals. XP12 is hard on my system. Flying in remote areas is fine but lately tried out the updated Telluride payware scenery...no luck (15-16 fps at best). Haven't tried more congested areas with the default scenery yet. Yes looking forward to the Bo! Hopefully Rotorsim will find a way to make their plug-in work in 12. And Fred said he'd bring us the S300 and B407...we'll see 😉

  • @mrprering7828

    @mrprering7828

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenerdyhelisimmer4608 one can only hope for further optimization, seeing as scenery is a major performance hog in xplane I am also setting high hopes on the scenery overhaul to improve frames. visually MSFS certainly is ahead and XP will not beat it anytime soon that is for sure, the default ortho scenery and worldwide OSM based vector data is really nice for VFR navigation, though one can achieve the same in XP by downloading orthoscenery and using simhavens fantastic xworld plugins that introduces the very same OSM data MSFS uses into xplane, downside being of course you will have to store these on your harddrive, whilst the xworld packs only take about 10gb on your drive per continent, ortho can grow quite out of hand size wise and you will have to limit yourself to certain areas you fly in. Personally I havent had a chance to try MSFS' new helicopters yet but I've been using the simulator every now and then for flying fixed wing, primarily PMDGs fantastic DC6 as I am a vintage aircraft enthusiast. But despite the eyecandy and PMDGs great DC6 I can't stick with the sim too long, its full of these small minor bugs, inconsistencies and annoyances that when all combined always driven me back to XP so far that, in spite of its own gremlins, gives me a more consistent experience. The B407 returning to XP12 had me excited for sure, as dreamfoil had pretty much stopped development of it in 11 for health reasons iirc, but the 407 being one of my favorite helicopters in XP and also my go to heli IFR platform in combination with the RXP GNS750 and SAS/AP system its nice to know all of its previously lost features will be restored and it will make the jump to the new platform :D

  • @vladimirrakocevic6669
    @vladimirrakocevic6669 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, great video, makes me very interested in helicopters to fly in Xplane 12. For now, find it dificult to do stable pickup and hover. I have Airbus TCA sidestick. What is your expirience, is this sidestick any good for learning?

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    What a coincidence, I just made a video on how to do a simple joystick extension with exactly that controller, so stay tuned. Coming up soon. I'd say yes it's fairly good stick and should work well with XP12 👍

  • @SHSeby
    @SHSeby Жыл бұрын

    hi, i can't seem to get m xplane set up correctly for r22. any chance you would do a zoom call tutorial with me?

  • @Glasairman
    @Glasairman Жыл бұрын

    what stick / collective are you using and is the stick setup usuable for fixed wing? I was thinking of the Logitech X56-Pro using mapping to provide a collective

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/emlo07VvnsrYgpM.html

  • @Glasairman

    @Glasairman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenerdyhelisimmer4608 Thanks. I have now ordererd a complete Virpil Alpha , Collective/UH-60, Mongoos Throttle to go with MFG Crosswing V2

  • @cevizkabugu3308
    @cevizkabugu3308Ай бұрын

    Can you explain how you made the joystick settings for the helicopter? I use thrustmaster hotas. When I give it gas, it does not take off or it turns around itself very quickly and crashes. What should I do? Thank you.

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Ай бұрын

    Check out my video about control settings. It's part of the Playlist "How to fly a helicopter in a sim". Make sure You have full throttle with governor on and use proper Anti-Torque controls.

  • @airbornerat
    @airbornerat Жыл бұрын

    Do you know what improvements have been made to the heli flight model? I find all Cowan sim models all have an arcade linear flight model and generally of low quality. The closest I can get is flying the dream foil 206 in xp11 🥴

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    To me it feels like Helicopters do have a little more inertia going in XP12 which makes them easier to fly. Bit harder to slow down as well. I like the CS B206 and the MD500E. DFs 206 is way of the charts power wise when You use it in XP11. I wonder if we get an XP12 Update for the 407 and the S300. Fred said he would...

  • @airbornerat

    @airbornerat

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenerdyhelisimmer4608 yeh I agree the power is insane 🤡

  • @OneDubAday
    @OneDubAday Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I was wondering what everyone uses for sim controls. I bought the Max Flight Stick Robinson Helicopter Flight Simulator Controls (about a 2 month wait till i get them). I couldn't really find any other r22 sim controls. I'm new to the sim community and it seems like there a bunch of other versions of r22's you can download as well as the dreamfoil everyone is talking about? I was wondering which one is the most realistic or does the one that comes with x-plane 12 the best version? Thank you in advance!

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    Do You mean hardware controls? If You ordered the Max Flight Stick You should be covered. There's a video showing my controls (see link below). If You mean sim wise: Don't buy dreamfoils R22 unless You use it with XP10. The XP12 R22 is pretty good. So is the Aerofly FS2 R22. The R44 by VSkylabs for XP11 might be interesting as well...

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @OneDubAday

    @OneDubAday

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenerdyhelisimmer4608 Yes the hardware controls just wanted to make sure the max flight stick was a good r22 trainer to buy! I know people use the puma but I didn't see a r22 setup. Thank you for the response! Okay I'll use XP12!

  • @andresespinoza9535

    @andresespinoza9535

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, im curious to know if you have received your control set up yet. I am currently one click away from ordering, but the long wait from Hong Kong makes me nervous. Im in the U.S. you are right, there aren't very many options. If you have received it, are you pleased with the product. Thank you in advance

  • @OneDubAday

    @OneDubAday

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andresespinoza9535 hey buddy I ended up not ordering the setup because I felt like it overall wasn't going to help me with my flight school. I think I was right, If that is why you are buying it. It's not even close to what is like in real life. I understand it's suppose to be semi close but it really wasnt with the other sim stuff I bought and returned. I'm almost done with my flight school and I'm overall glad I didn't get it. If you are getting it for fun I'm sure it's great! Hope this helps!

  • @doemacmonkey
    @doemacmonkey Жыл бұрын

    Will I buy it? Not entirely convinced yet. I have been using X-Plane for a long time after switching from FSX for a better flight model - I held off getting MSFS because many said it was more gameish rather than sim, and I read earlier this year that those that had X-Plane 11 would be able to upgrade for free - that turned out to not be true, so I’m not yet convinced that 12 is far enough ahead of 11 to warrant me forking out (Australian dollars) $80 for something not all that new. Have been doing most of my simming lately in the Yak-52 on DCS and might stay there until I see what changes. Thank you for this video I am not a chopper pilot (have only done one brief TIF in a R22, I prefer fixed wing flying the Tecnam P2002, but have been looking for reviews of XP12 since I found the demo version is somewhat limited. (Edited for typo autocorrected simming to swimming)

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. While the price is probably not gonna Change over time it's perfectly reasonalbe to wait and see how XP12 progresses. I used Fs9/FSX myself before XP11. I switched for the Heli Flight Dynamics which were awful in FSX. Fixed wings were quite nice already. I remember flying the Ifly 737 and the PMDG 747 a lot. Anyway as I expected, visually XP12 has not a lot to offer so if MSFS can come up with decent Helicopter flight dynamics I might go there...(although I somewhat doubt they will). Love DCS...but the limited scenery and no chance to fly on vatsim. Cheers

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    @Shyam Vijay What do You mean?

  • @doemacmonkey

    @doemacmonkey

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenerdyhelisimmer4608 I think they are suggesting getting it from captain Jack Sparrow - my days of that sort of thing are well behind me - might as well publish all my passwords on Facebook

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    @@doemacmonkey Now I get it 😄

  • @PK-xg4jt
    @PK-xg4jt Жыл бұрын

    Do you train on helicopter flying?! Or where can i learn to master the helicopter?!

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    If You mean in a sim my tutorial series is a good place to start 🙂

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @windshearahead7012
    @windshearahead7012 Жыл бұрын

    looks like xplane 11

  • @tmangamingx
    @tmangamingx Жыл бұрын

    Every plane cost so much in MSFS 2020. I am hoping Xplane won't be as exspensive. I got so frustrated with microsoft. To have the nice aircraft you have to pay out the butt for a good helicopter or plane. Does Xplane charge for mods ?

  • @highflow6143

    @highflow6143

    Жыл бұрын

    Xplane has a vivid modding community with many high quality mods. I expect this to continue for the xp 12 version

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, one of the nice things about XP is a very active community sharing a lot of freeware via their online forum. Every now and then You'll find some amazing stuff with payware quality. You can check out my video series "freeware gems" for two examples. Never the less most high quality aircraft and scenery in Xplane are payware too. Helicopters ranging from 25 to 50 $. Airliners sometimes going up as far as 70/80 $. Good thing about MSFS is you already have great custom scenery worldwide whereas XPs generic scenery looks like...

  • @murdoch9106

    @murdoch9106

    Жыл бұрын

    Depends heavily on what you look at, anything with high degree of systems depth with cost 40 - 100$ depending on what you look at, in any sim, X plane and MSFS seem to have similar prices, the amount of work for both sims is likely pretty similar too. Dont go to X plane and expect it to be cheaper, infact, since MSFS has a much bigger market share it will be easier for those devs to keep prices down. We already see big devs like PMDG pushing their prices down just because they sell so much more now, that said, its still not cheap to get their Boeing 737 800 for example, 80$ or so, and the A320 Fenix is 93$.. because of all the custom systems code in them. I have high fidelity GA aircrafts ranging from 11$ - 40 or 60$ on MSFS... so many factors that play a part there.

  • @ellonysman
    @ellonysman Жыл бұрын

    R22...isn't it the widow maker??

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    With their two bladed rotor-system the Robinson helicopters are prone to mast bumping. Manufacturer says You should avoid cyclic pushover maneuvers that cause low-g situations and when You get into one to apply gently aft cyclic. Also to slow down the aircraft in turbulence. Especially with the R22 You can run out of engine power fast. It's an ongoing debate wether or not the R22 is an unsafe aircraft. Some say it is, some say it's not. It has a comparably high accident rate but then again it is the number one training aircraft so it is more likely to have an accident in the first place. Anyway in a simulator we can't blame the aircraft now can we 😅

  • @TR_P

    @TR_P

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenerdyhelisimmer4608 I wonder if mast bumping will eventually be implemented like the DCS Huey? If I recall one R22 went down from a likely mast bumping incident in New Zealand with a pilot with many, many hours on the type at the controls- it was suspected to be turbulence induced. I know if I had the money to buy any helicopter I wanted to, the rotor would be articulated.

  • @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    @thenerdyhelisimmer4608

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TR_P If I had the money to buy ANY helicopter I sure wouldn't be going down piston lane 😃

  • @ermannocavallini7145
    @ermannocavallini7145 Жыл бұрын

    I have been an instructor pilot of light and ultralight aircraft for over 35 years, and I honestly do not believe that the graphics of the FS 2020 scenarios are adequate for the real training of light and ultralight aircraft pilots. Microsoft thought it (rightly) for those who want to play and not for the training of pilots. for this reason it is much better to take the realism of the X-Plane flight model and build on it autonomously dedicated scenarios. As has been done successfully with the Italian project of the "VFR ESTREMO". In this case, a synthesis of the advantages of the two simulators was obtained. maximum realism of the flight model and maximum realism of photorealistic scenarios.

  • @ryanwright3965

    @ryanwright3965

    Жыл бұрын

    Why do you spam every video with the same copy and paste comment?

  • @TR_P

    @TR_P

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryanwright3965 homie loves VFR ESTREMO

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