New Tires vs Worn Tires - What Performs Best?

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The Truth About Worn Tires - What Happens As A Tire Wears?
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Do tires get better or worse with wear? What's the difference between a new tire and a worn tire? As a tire wears, you may be surprised to learn that its dry performance actually improves. Braking distances tend to get shorter, and cornering grip tends to increase.
The opposite, however, happens in the wet. As the tire nears the wear bars, braking distances increase and cornering grip decreases? Well, why is this? And what can you do to prevent wear from ruining a tire’s performance?
First off, we need to break down how a tire gets its grip, which can be grouped into three categories: construction, compound, and tread pattern. A tire’s overall grip is a combination of all three. The construction of the tire provides the overall shape of the contact patch, and how it interacts over bumps and imperfections.
The compound obviously plays the most critical role; how well the compound sticks to the road determines how well the tire performs. And what’s cool about compound is that it doesn’t change as the tire wears, so you want compound grip to be as high as possible for both wet and dry grip.
And finally, we get to the tread. Tread patterns are great for wet grip, they improve traction in the wet by evacuating water away from the road contact to help prevent the tire from hydroplaning. So it’s logical then, that as the tread wears away, wet performance wears away with it.
In the dry, however, that tread pattern reduces the amount of rubber contacting the road, and decreases the rigidity of the tire, allowing it to flex and squirm. As the tire starts to wear away, the tread pattern wears away with it, and the response and grip of the tire improve. This is why in racing, when it’s dry, you’ll see tires without any tread pattern at all, just a smooth, sticky, flat surface for the tire to clench the road.
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  • @mihai08
    @mihai086 жыл бұрын

    There's one thing you forgot! Age!!! Depending on how much you drive, it is not only wear that affects the tyre but also age. Rubber compound is only guaranteed for a certain period. So although you get more surface contact are as the tyre wear down, with time the compound losses its characteristics becoming stiff, dry & brittle

  • @PapotsGarage

    @PapotsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mihai Constantinescu THANK YOU, just mention this in my question.

  • @sharpd.9058

    @sharpd.9058

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great comment, came here to say the same!

  • @LoganDark4357

    @LoganDark4357

    6 жыл бұрын

    tire.

  • @promethbastard

    @promethbastard

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tyre, actually. I tire of your antics.

  • @nfsm654

    @nfsm654

    6 жыл бұрын

    And on top of age let's not forget heating/cooling cycles.

  • @joelmammachen
    @joelmammachen6 жыл бұрын

    Good they removed the badges, not even God will know that's a Camry

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don't know what I was driving, but I do know it was fast! Guessing something exotic. 😂

  • @Jabid21

    @Jabid21

    6 жыл бұрын

    Engineering Explained Did the big reveal happen when you found out you were in a Chevy all along?

  • @gamingmadesimple5510

    @gamingmadesimple5510

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jabid21 definitely was a Bugatti... look at those crazy curves and that aerodynamic design

  • @VideoManDan

    @VideoManDan

    6 жыл бұрын

    That was the 2018 Camry. Looked into it myself this year, but read all the negative reviews of how much molded plastic Toyota used this time around, making the interior look and feel so blah. An untrained eye will like all the curves in the console though.

  • @joelmammachen

    @joelmammachen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Royer that blah was voted among the best interiors of the year

  • @coscorrodrift
    @coscorrodrift6 жыл бұрын

    not enTIREly intuitive huh?

  • @josephlarson9310

    @josephlarson9310

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sold you sole. Like the catholic church. Next train for the coast. Appeal to emotion

  • @ytechnology

    @ytechnology

    6 жыл бұрын

    Get a GRIP. You are only COMPOUNDing the problem! :)

  • @frankeggers4024

    @frankeggers4024

    6 жыл бұрын

    You mean "soul", not "sole".

  • @Chr0nalis

    @Chr0nalis

    6 жыл бұрын

    enTyrely*

  • @veganpotterthevegan

    @veganpotterthevegan

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is 100% intuitive

  • @javasoy
    @javasoy6 жыл бұрын

    A good example of sponsored content done right. Thank you.

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    6 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome, thanks for watching!

  • @thedriverux
    @thedriverux6 жыл бұрын

    I personally would love an enTIRE series dedicated to tires. Tire engineering explained. In depth, everything. Make me a tire nerd in depth. Thanks.

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    6 жыл бұрын

    Haha, I’m all for it!

  • @VCBird6

    @VCBird6

    6 жыл бұрын

    Engineering Explained give an explanation video on the Continental Sure Contact series of tires They kick some serious butt!

  • @rainystorm88
    @rainystorm886 жыл бұрын

    When EE makes sponsored contents that are also super educational, I wish I could like the video more than once!

  • @Matowix

    @Matowix

    6 жыл бұрын

    rainystorm88 it doesn't make me want to buy muchilin tyres I already knew they are the best and very expensive and unnecessary for the average driver.

  • @AndrewBrowner

    @AndrewBrowner

    6 жыл бұрын

    really though.. kill all the advertising and sell the best tire for a moderate price

  • @robertescalante9858

    @robertescalante9858

    6 жыл бұрын

    How does abs work?

  • @jonasswano

    @jonasswano

    6 жыл бұрын

    rainystorm88 y c

  • @mezalong

    @mezalong

    5 жыл бұрын

    I shall scroll to the top after this comment and like in your honour, rainystorm88.

  • @mubashirali3213
    @mubashirali32136 жыл бұрын

    The only automotive channel explain things perfectly.

  • @MattMaranMotoring
    @MattMaranMotoring6 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting video Jason!

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Matt!

  • @tangles01
    @tangles016 жыл бұрын

    True that on the average economy tyre it will grain performance with wear, but UHP road tyres with much softer compounds are susceptible to heat cycles. So if you push them get them hot you will change the compound over time and make it harder, losing dry performance with wear.

  • @HubbaDuck.
    @HubbaDuck.6 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this one! My work revolves pretty much entirely around tires. The insight you brought really helped me understand the inner works of a tire!

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac1085 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. On a Porsche that I had years ago I had a set of Yokahama A008Ps that I carefully rotated frequently to equalize treadwear. I timed the point when the tread wore down to zero to the beginning of our dry season in San Diego and so I was able to drive the car for quite a while on slick tires. The handling was fantastic, above the already great handling of the tire and I had no problem. On the rare occasion when I did encounter water on the road I would just slow down and drive more carefully and so I never had an issue. However, when my wife found out that I was driving on slicks she made me go out and buy new tires😟

  • @ozzstars_cars
    @ozzstars_cars6 жыл бұрын

    This is one of my most favorite channels on KZread. The Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires on my 2018 Corvette Grand Sport grip like glue but at 10-15k miles they will be worn out due to soft sticky rubber. It's the sacrifice I can live with due to the turning performance that is amazing!!

  • @Thumbs0311

    @Thumbs0311

    6 жыл бұрын

    Go with the Pilot Sport 4s, it is the number 1 summer performance tire on the market right now. I run them on my car and the performance is outstanding.

  • @supaahflyy

    @supaahflyy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs Gaming they would be next for me but my Tesla's 21 inch rims means they don't even make pilot sport 4s's in that size yet. Only the older pilot super sports. Looked up reviews and people say apart from longevity, performance is not any better

  • @WTGRacing

    @WTGRacing

    6 жыл бұрын

    Assuming you drive the car spiritedly, 15k miles on a tire/car like that is very impressive life. Cup 2's are pretty much as close as you'll get to an R-compound tire, along with bridgestone RE-71r's. If I remember correctly, the cup 2's are actually 180TW, which isn't even allowed in most street tire class races, where treadwear ratings are capped at 200.

  • @jenniferwhitewolf3784

    @jenniferwhitewolf3784

    6 жыл бұрын

    Try Nitto NT05.

  • @mithereal

    @mithereal

    6 жыл бұрын

    My slingshot back is gone in about 6k bfgoodrich pro comp not getibg afain

  • @joaoluistavares6046
    @joaoluistavares60466 жыл бұрын

    This is how a video about Tires should always be done. It doesn't mean necessarily to be kind of similar copies, but the explanation should be correct. I saw different videos where there was this tendency to actually make all people think that is not an issue at all on the wet surface as the Tire Wears. Thanks for giving us this explanation.

  • @JohnDotBomb
    @JohnDotBomb6 жыл бұрын

    I really like tire videos. I also really like when you use sponsored content to make high quality educational content with connections. Great video, really hope to see a video in that testing facility. Also want a video in the factory if you ever get the chance- I would love to see the molding process and tooling

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! Something often overlooked (that you pointed out quite accurately) is that sponsored content generally provides access to engineers and product managers that I typically wouldn't have the ability to speak with, especially not for long durations on a single project. It's great to be able to pick their brains for information, and ultimately we all learn from it (this is always my goal for sponsored content). With regards to the onsite testing, here's a link to a few videos: bit.ly/2LdI157. Under the section where it says "we partnered with Jason Fenske" there are three clickable video thumbnails. And I agree, it'd be very cool to see the molding process!

  • @Iceberg86300

    @Iceberg86300

    6 жыл бұрын

    Engineering Explained there are videos showing the tire making process, although the ones I've seen kind of "leave you hanging," especially if you're an engineer or technical type. IIRC an episode of "How it's Made" deals with tire manufacturing. Unfortunately, again IIRC, it deals with retreads. It was plenty informative for that particular subject, and I'm sure many of your more inquisitive viewers would enjoy it. However, I think more would enjoy the process of producing a "virgin" car tire & the different options such as steel or corded, especially if done in your style of video, and even moreso if you had some company sponsorship. In the meantime, I suggest that anyone looking for the tire molding process to seek out the retreading video as the final molding is going to be nearly identical to that of a brand new tire.

  • @kodiak2fitty

    @kodiak2fitty

    6 жыл бұрын

    The tire companies get pretty frigid when you ask to see the the magic behind the curtain :). It'd be rare to get to do footage on a modern tire company production floor. Great video.

  • @JohnDotBomb

    @JohnDotBomb

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matthew Zaleski Yeah, I just remember How It's Made videos. This is the kinda channel that would be perfect for making a video on a non-proprietary process, like molding. I don't think they'll want to talk more than generalities about compound.

  • @JohnDotBomb

    @JohnDotBomb

    6 жыл бұрын

    Engineering Explained thanks for the linked videos! I'll watch them.

  • @VCBird6
    @VCBird66 жыл бұрын

    As a Certified Tire Pro for National Tire and Battery and TBC Corp, I gotta say... Damn good job and on point with everything about the Michelin Premier :) I'll be using that explanation about partial depth siping with cheaper tires to explain to customers why dealership tires are the way they are as well as the explanation about the thinner steel for skinnier siping making the process more expensive, but overall justified due to the better performance :)

  • @coolqwerty73
    @coolqwerty736 жыл бұрын

    You’re are genuinely the only Content creator that makes great stuff even when sponsored. Really enjoy this video

  • @codylau7718
    @codylau77186 жыл бұрын

    I work in a tire shop so I already know these Michelin Premier are pretty much top of the line, but it's nice to learn something new. No matter what brand I get, I make sure it has a long mileage warranty. I also look to see if the sipes go down to the bottom so even when they are worn out, performance isn't degraded as much. Michelin and a few Goodyear ones do this as well but I haven't seen Pirelli do it.

  • @manoman0
    @manoman06 жыл бұрын

    Blimey, probably the best video about tyre profiles I have ever seen. Before this was simply a black box to me. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!

  • @15october91
    @15october916 жыл бұрын

    Jason you’re the man!

  • @accordinglyryan
    @accordinglyryan6 жыл бұрын

    I had Premier A/S tires on an old car of mine, they seemed really nice and I liked the idea of the tread expanding as the tire wears down. Sadly they don't make them in 235/40R19, so I guess I'm gonna go with the Primacy MXM4s when my current Continentals wear out.

  • @darrenseepersad3705
    @darrenseepersad37056 жыл бұрын

    Wow what timing with this video because I was actually tire shopping at the moment. Now with all this new information I shall reconsider my previous choice in tire

  • @bobriley000444
    @bobriley0004446 жыл бұрын

    Wow I thought you would 100% say worn tires are worse, being as you're sponsored by a tire company i thought you would tell everyone to get new tires. Good to see you don't sell out out and just say whatever your sponsors would be most happy with. Keeping it 100 with your viewers big respect

  • @hhhhhhhhhhhhh4927
    @hhhhhhhhhhhhh49276 жыл бұрын

    I didn't tire of watching this video from beginning to end. 👍

  • @zacharyponds4582
    @zacharyponds45826 жыл бұрын

    My brother works for Michelin in Lexington, South Carolina and has done the very same test you did! Tires are extremely important and way more complex than most people realize.

  • @Xx1SailorScoutxX
    @Xx1SailorScoutxX6 жыл бұрын

    I need new tires on my Civic, so this video is right on time. Thanks, Jason!!

  • @christianroman780
    @christianroman7806 жыл бұрын

    I use those Michelin premier a/s on my forester. Excellent wet and snow traction. Love them for northeast winters.

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute6 жыл бұрын

    Very cool stuff about the silica in the tires, with the binding agent! In pavement engineering, we need to have binding agents and emulsifiers for the gravel and sand aggregate to mix in with the bitumen. There is definitely a lot of chemistry happening there and different mix designs do very different things. Very cool to understand this is happening in tires...makes a lot of sense, as these items genuinely hit the roads, and being complementary to the roads is smart!

  • @texastriguy
    @texastriguy6 жыл бұрын

    First of all - great video as always! Advances in tire technology have been fantastic. There are a few considerations here that perhaps warrant mentioning. 1) Depending on where you live, the percentage of your overall driving time that is done in rainy weather is relatively small. Some regions have a lot of wet weather, some less. But regardless, the percentage of hours in the year in which precipitation is falling is fairly small. Statistically, more than 2/3rds of the total precipitation in the US happens in just 30 to 55 calendar days per year. And on those days, it rains far less than the entire 24 hours. Overall, the percentage of time it's raining in the US is between 2 and 8%, depending on where you live and how you measure it. So there's statistically a 95% chance it will be dry when you are driving. 2) Michelin should really differentiate between "wet roads" and "standing water". What Michelin REALLY means in their testing is standing water of some specified depth. For roads that are merely "wet", the compound matters FAR more than the tread pattern or depth. Even more than the tire compound, the actual road surface itself is an even larger factor! Grooved concrete with a broom finish surface, like is used widely here in Texas, provides vastly superior grip over smooth rolled asphalt. This is true whether wet or dry. Further - grooved concrete is permanent. It does not change over time largely. So the effect of worn tires is mitigated by the surface treatment of the road surface. 3) The statistic of one being 4 times more likely to have an accident is also somewhat misleading. There are two aspects to this. First - "being involved" in an accident is different than you being the cause of one. If someone else has terrible tires or drives too fast and slams into you, the tires on YOUR car will have little effect on that. Next - you aren't entirely helpless here. In the USA, few if any drivers receive any real wet weather driving instruction. Drivers get education about driving in the wet, but little to no practice. But the point here is that the WAY you choose to drive when it's raining has the majority of the impact on whether or not you have an accident. One could simply slow down a little, drive more cautiously, take turns slower, and make other adjustments that would have a much greater impact than your tires. 4) On my own car, I run Michelin's Sport Cup 2 track racing tires - and I use them for daily driving. The rationale is that they have much higher dry traction due to a very sticky rubber compound. Since 95% of the time I am driving on dry roads, I benefit vastly from better grip, shorter stopping distances, and better turning control that a wet weather tire. Further - these tires are actually designed for wet tracks - so on wet (but not standing water), they actually outperform many tires designed for hydroplaning resistance. The tread compound on the inner third of the tire is highly optimized for wet traction, the outer for dry and wear resistance. Their only shortcoming is that they do not perform well in standing water. So when that happens and I have to drive, I simply reduce my speed a good bit. Most modern roads have excellent drainage - and as I noted before, many have grooves in them to help shed water. In the end, I actually feel like a tire optimized for world-class dry and wet, but not standing water performance, combined with some driving modifications for standing water, is actually safer than going for a "one tire to rule them all" approach - mostly because of the trade-offs that invariably must happen. And we haven't talked about snow yet!

  • @albertovicinanza
    @albertovicinanza6 жыл бұрын

    If you wear a tire within say 1/2 years the compound won't change; anyways after 3 to 4 years the compound will start to degrade, getting worse with time. After 5 to 6 years the compound will have become harder and will provide less grip. TCS tested this and they found that a 6 year old tire is dangerous. This test was done with full thread depth and with different tire ages.

  • @griffojm
    @griffojm6 жыл бұрын

    Great info! The narrow down to wide sipe is such a brilliant idea.

  • @Kraigmire
    @Kraigmire6 жыл бұрын

    I just bought Premier A/S last November and ran them through most of the Canadian winter. They had very good start/stopping traction in the snow (for all seasons) but understeered quite a bit when turning. Tread design probably affected this the most as they are designed for water not snow. No issues with wet traction or wear so far. Overall they are decently quiet and I am happy with them.

  • @michiel5160
    @michiel51602 жыл бұрын

    Last week I changed my front tyres. Both old and new were Continental contactsport 5. The outer half of the old ones were slicks, the inner half had just a bit of profile left. After about 1h on the new ones they currently don't have the dry road performance the old ones had. Braking is less and in corners I have to correct more.

  • @twhontehwon200
    @twhontehwon2002 жыл бұрын

    I love hearing that the tires I replaced the original ones with are better and I love hearing that, in some ways, my tires get better with age instead of just diminishing in value. Thank you skinny Subaru man.

  • @greglachcik6417
    @greglachcik64176 жыл бұрын

    as an engineering student I prefer the more complicated topics, keep up the good work, love the channel

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph89586 жыл бұрын

    I learned a lot from this Keep up the good work

  • @impact2000
    @impact20006 жыл бұрын

    as always: Great video! But we need to consider: a new tire has more rubber to work with. That means a new tire gets warmed up faster, while a really worn tire can get problems to reach his working temperature at all (which was one reason when I crashed my Caterham . 4°C tarmac and worn semi slicks are no good combination :-) ) More rubber on a new tire means also a softer limit range. Maybe it won´t be as high as with a worn tire in the dry, but for most people with average driving skills a wider range would be better to be warned, that the car will reach it´s limits soon. Regards

  • @peterparker9444
    @peterparker94446 жыл бұрын

    I had those Michelin Premiere A/S tires on my Accord and didn't need winter tires at all. It had gone through 10+ inches of snow without issues and fuel consumption was awesome and just as good as my Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3's. It's an awesome all season tire and if you don't get much snow then this is the best you're going to get for an all season tire!

  • @jtreu107
    @jtreu1076 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. In my dry weather driving (rear wheel drive grip) experience with tires, when the tire wears and the tread depth is reduced and more actual rubber is touching the ground grip is reduced when compared to a newer tire with deeper tread, I’ve always thought that maybe the compound is harder the more the tire wears but according to your video there should be more grip the “balder” the tire is. I’ve also thought that maybe the actual flex of the deeper tread allows the rubber to get a better hold on the rough asphalt surface, allows it to kind of dig in because there is more material to conform. I’d like to see a side by side grip comparison with a low tread performance tire and a brand new tire of the same make/model, I still feel like the new tire would provide more grip...

  • @peterwho9380
    @peterwho93804 жыл бұрын

    I had those Michelin Premiere A/S on my Accord before it was traded in and those tires are the best all season's I have used to date! It got me through 6-8 inches of snow with no issues and also with no compromise on safety!

  • @loktom4068

    @loktom4068

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lets pray the Michelin sidewalls would not cracks with a million smiles in 3 years just like my. Unless you used up all the treads before that.

  • @peterwho9380

    @peterwho9380

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@loktom4068 That tire had like a 75K or 100K tread life warranty and did you not take advantage of it?

  • @4G12
    @4G126 жыл бұрын

    Hmm... These designs for better wet performance when partially worn are exactly as I've expected. The reason they're not more widespread is because they do compromise dry and new tyre performance significantly unless you resort to expensive solutions to compensate, such as narrower but deeper sipes that impose more stress on the tyre mold and make damaging them and the tyre more likely, more expensive tread compounds that are stiff enough to not flex too much when new while still providing good grip, etc. Basically, trading off a bit of new tyre performance for more consistent performance over the entire usable lifespan of the tyre.

  • @dgrayson92027
    @dgrayson920276 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation, you left out a discussion of changes to cross linking and structure as tires age/heat cycle, and a number of other fun things like shaved tires, but you hit the main points spot on. Great video

  • @richie0099
    @richie00996 жыл бұрын

    When I started diving I tried to buy budget tires over the years I noticed that some wear faster others came defective or became unfixable in some cases and needed to be replaced sooner. Then I started buying more expensive performance tires and noticed they last longer and performed better for a longer period of time and didn’t have any mayor issues for the life the tire. Lesson learned as with other things you buy you pay for what you get. Also Michelin is not the type of tire that I buy anymore.

  • @davehoffman3481

    @davehoffman3481

    6 жыл бұрын

    Michelin tires can be great on some cars in certain environments, but an absolute mess on other cars in the same environment. When I was growing up Michelin tires got great ratings for tread life and mileage, but not so good in the rain. Over time they have gotten better in the rain.

  • @jec6613
    @jec66136 жыл бұрын

    One other thing that you didn't mention is that tires can be paired to a vehicle's suspension. Usually this is with high performance cars, but also with all terrain models you see it as well, where the tire's characteristics are specifically designed to compliment the suspension of the vehicle - even down to ensuring that the spacing of the tread pattern reduces noise compared to the harmonics of the vehicle body. I didn't buy into this at first, and then I went and put tires designed for my oddball sized old Forester on it, and despite being A/T they significantly quieted the car down over normal touring tires, and improved handling, road feel and steering precision in all conditions except smooth dry pavement, where I don't really need it as much anyway.

  • @Jjnoriega900
    @Jjnoriega9006 жыл бұрын

    Once again, your a man with much knowledge

  • @rayluo4665
    @rayluo4665 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for confirming that worn tire actually has better grip in dry condition, while losing grip in wet condition.

  • @thisshouldsay2K
    @thisshouldsay2K6 жыл бұрын

    'Teamed up with' Michelin, eh? I just ordered a set of Pilot Sport 4Ss for my STI, I can't wait to try them out!

  • @RyuHayabusa7
    @RyuHayabusa76 жыл бұрын

    Go Bridgestone Tires! I bought some BF Goodrich tires about a year ago because they were known for good wet grip and living in South FL its always raining ( its raining right now ). I have to say these are very good wet grip tires, they give me a great boost of confidence when driving in the rain. the tires are BF Goodrich G Force Comp II . My favorite grip tires so far are Bridgestone Potenzas.

  • @snokones
    @snokones6 жыл бұрын

    Got Pilot Sports years ago and have never gone back. Thanks Michelin!

  • @BenMitro
    @BenMitro6 жыл бұрын

    Well that was very informative and impressive. Impressive because we all know that hype creeps into such videos, but Jason, you managed to avoid that very well indeed and just deliver useful info. Thank you. Can you do the same for off road tyres too? A debate seems to crop up now and then in 4WD forums where one group believes wide tyres are best for offroad, while the other believe narrower tyres are the best. Now the debate is over grip in sand, mud and gravel and when the air pressure is reduced purposely to increase the area of the footprint and to absorb impacts more readily, and ofcourse, the flip side is fuel economy, wear and bitumen performance when the pressures are back to normal levels. It's a much more complicated scenario than for normal cars and understanding the basics will help many offroaders choose a tyre that is fit for purpose.

  • @wasandd
    @wasandd6 жыл бұрын

    This video should just be at the top of all online reviews of tires

  • @SoulTouchMusic93
    @SoulTouchMusic936 жыл бұрын

    idk man, i was in between michelins and pirellis when i brought my tyres. after watching reviews online i decided to get the pirellis and i couldn't be happier. they wear good, the grip is still there and they are really quiet. i got about 30k miles out of them and they hould be good for at least 5k while still passing the mot.

  • @jhuntosgarage
    @jhuntosgarage6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent information! And very well done. Great work Jason.

  • @AntagonistInPhoenix
    @AntagonistInPhoenix6 жыл бұрын

    Great info! Definitely will think about this a little more based on the seasons.

  • @chikosh
    @chikosh4 жыл бұрын

    Short, sweet, much appreciated

  • @AkaAndyKnuckles
    @AkaAndyKnuckles6 жыл бұрын

    As a riding instructor I have used a lot of Michelin tires for these exact reasons the last years. They do seem competitive.

  • @diogoleitao8628
    @diogoleitao86285 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation! Just a tip: u could make a video on how pressure influences grip on wet and dry performance.

  • @tuhaggis
    @tuhaggis6 жыл бұрын

    My experience has always been that new tyres have better dry weather (and definitely wet weather) grip than worn. Is it possible that the compound deteriorates over time due to kinetic and thermal stresses to be less effective?

  • @johannesdatblue4164
    @johannesdatblue41645 жыл бұрын

    I've got some Heidenau K66 Silica winter tires on my bike and they perform like a beast in every situation! from -10-30° C they can Perform great but with sunshine and dry roads the sweetspot is between 0-20°C. They can handle icy (not iceplates xD), slightly snowy roads or while raining under 6mm water on the street pretty impressive. They feel like sports tires at our todays temprature about 15°C.

  • @rzpogi
    @rzpogi6 жыл бұрын

    Still using my Michelin Energy XM1 from 7 years ago. Even if the tread is nearly gone, the tire still performs well except on wet as expect though and still doesn't have bulges unlike the former Bridgestone tires I had when its tread is almost gone.

  • @MushroomKingdoom
    @MushroomKingdoom6 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a benchmark with light rims vs normal aluminum vs non-aluminum rims to save fuel? is it worth to buy special light rims to save fuel? Also how much a tire must weight to improve performance?

  • @APOnCars
    @APOnCars6 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Michelin premier AS for my girlfriend’s sonata and it improved the feel and handling of the car in the dry and wet immensely over the stock Kumhos. I’m going to be ordering Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ for my Infiniti G37 next week to replace my aging and slightly dry rotted Dunlop Sport Maxx AS and I’m expecting a vast improvement.

  • @chron151

    @chron151

    6 жыл бұрын

    Really good choice of a tire. I used these this past fall\winter in the PNW and felt super stable at highway speeds in steady rain.

  • @davehoffman3481

    @davehoffman3481

    6 жыл бұрын

    A coworker has the same car you do and did the same switch. The Dunlops were not as nice, even when new, as the those Michelin tires. Lots of G37 owners I talk to cannot figure out what Infiniti was thinking with that Dunlop tire choice, especially for rain driving.

  • @michaelbullington3182
    @michaelbullington31826 жыл бұрын

    Best way to increase braking and performance is to slow down when the weather is bad. I and many others often forget this. Somehow Jason is convincing me to buy cheaper tires, with good compound for dry; and just drive more cautiously when there is the rare Southern California rain.

  • @Trades46
    @Trades466 жыл бұрын

    Had a set of Premier AS thrown into my Grandmother's Mercedes to replace the stock ContiProContacts. Night and day difference in rain & snow as well as being massively quieter & more comfortable to ride, but did suffer a 1MPG loss in fuel economy. Still overall they are an excellent tire.

  • @TheTmshuman
    @TheTmshuman6 жыл бұрын

    Funny story with a question attached. I drove my brother and myself from Seattle to Portland for a funeral in my C6Z. I had 345 40 R19s Nitto NT05R’s on the rear. It was supposed to be clear weather however it decided to dump rain. I could not safely exceed 55 mph. The car was riding on top of the water most of the time it seemed. I filled up my tank at the beginning and again at the end. I calculated 29mpg. Question: does water and a slick tire equal significant reduction in rolling resistance (if so how much) or does simply displacing the water negate any potential efficiency gains?

  • @Quetzalcoatlv3
    @Quetzalcoatlv36 жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Keep up the good work :)

  • @sadubone
    @sadubone6 жыл бұрын

    fun, i have the Michelin Premier A/S tires on my car. it's good to know as they are about half worn they are still good for the summer. good tires. thank you for this video.

  • @BuckFitchesThe
    @BuckFitchesThe6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, I'd love to see more videos explaining tires!

  • @billjan9266
    @billjan92665 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Have you considered doing a comparison video between premium brands vs. budget brands but instead of using the same size of tires, use a budget brand tires that is 10-15mm wider but still maintains roughly the same circumference. For example, Bridgestone/Michelin/Goodyear 195/65 R15 vs. any budget brand 205/60 R15 or even 215/55R R15, etc. if these tire sizes exist. My theory is that would the wider width of the budget brand tires compensate for traction/grip and match the performance of the premium tires and at the same time cost far less? I will be watching. Cheers

  • @Luke_NorseSpeed
    @Luke_NorseSpeed5 жыл бұрын

    I can personally confirm that good tires, even on stock suspension, makes the biggest handling difference on a car. I drive a 1996 Volvo 850 with a few mods (BC coilovers, sway-bars, wheels/tires, intake, exhaust, etc) on track and autocross and the tires by far were the biggest improvement. Falken Azenis RT615K+ tires.

  • @ManualMaestro
    @ManualMaestro6 жыл бұрын

    Sorry if I overlooked this in the video, but what about dry-rotted tires? Does that effectively change the compound?

  • @rubioalejo
    @rubioalejo4 жыл бұрын

    Wow amazing!!! It’s incredible how many technology are behind on Michelin tires!! Great video! Thanks

  • @MrCarmichael47
    @MrCarmichael476 жыл бұрын

    hey engineering explained, I live in South Carolina, that's cool that you came to our state.

  • @icefire70
    @icefire706 жыл бұрын

    Good job, EE. Informative while making sense - especially the sipe presentation.

  • @ryleungutube
    @ryleungutube6 жыл бұрын

    Jason, While I appreciate the contents and your presentation in the video, I'd have to disagree with your premise that the tire compound's performance does not change over the course of the tire's life. While it is true that lower tread depth provides stiffer tread blocks which would perform better than full tread depth where there is more tread squirm, this higher performance claim would only be true if the age of the compound is the same -- ie. you're literally comparing a brand new tire vs a brand new tire that has been shaven down to having less tread.. In everyday situations, the tire compound's performance deteriorates over time as a result of heat cycles, UV damage, general drying out as the tire age, etc. Especially as a result of heat cycling, both the dry and wet performance of a street tire will drop significantly due to changes in the compound.

  • @JAlexanderG
    @JAlexanderG6 жыл бұрын

    I hope one day we get to see all the stuff the michelin producers cut out. Congratulations on the job though, you did great!

  • @church493
    @church4935 жыл бұрын

    Thread pattern/depth changes by wear. But also compound changes by age (eg. for winter tires some additives to rubber may wear/vapor/press/whatever out), and also even compound might get adversely be affected by heat cycling (especially matters for tires used in both daily driving & trackdays). Michelin is often mentioned as providing more mileage in most classes of tires (at usually also proportionally higher price though), but there might be cases where no matter all the tries with smart tech to improve tire performance at higher wear, but cheap new non premium tire can outperform used premium one.

  • @St0RM33
    @St0RM336 жыл бұрын

    You forgot about heat cycles that change the compound performance

  • @PapotsGarage

    @PapotsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    St0RM33 thank you, I asked the same. My a048 are a full second slower when old

  • @Hungrystudent101

    @Hungrystudent101

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ummmm you don't heat cycle touring tires lol. Trying to race with them will help your drifting though lol

  • @DannerPlace
    @DannerPlace6 жыл бұрын

    I's pretty amazing that EE delivers 70k views on day one.

  • @mossmiller
    @mossmiller3 жыл бұрын

    Some good insights on why some tires cost more than others. As far as driving on older tires, if they have no dry rot, you are probably OK on back roads below 50mph, but on the highway, watch out. Proved this recently with a set of 10-year-old Dunlop winter tires that look like new as I rarely drive the car on the highway. But at 60 mph had definitely developed a shimmy. Also, stay away from Chinese tires with unknown brand names to avoid balance issues in highway driving.

  • @randymurray934
    @randymurray9345 жыл бұрын

    Personally i prefer Pirelli tires.. Cheers lots of good information in your video.

  • @Kneedragon1962
    @Kneedragon19626 жыл бұрын

    As a general trend, the newer your tyres, the better they are. The more worn a tyre is, the less effective it is, the less safe it is, the less it will resist punctures and the less it will resist aquaplaning and skidding. There are some things though, an old tyres may be slightly better for. 1. An old tyre, run at fairly high pressure, will have lower rolling resistance than a new one. That makes a small difference to fuel economy. 2. A worn tyre will build up far less heat at continuous high speed. That makes tyre failure of the tread separation type or the overheat and blow-out type, rather less likely. 3. A mostly worn tyre will have much lower slip angles than a new one, because it has less tread to distort. (Colin Chapman : "if it's not there, then it can't flex or break.") 4. If you're going to play with a car, and risk the chance of a flatspot because of a spin, or a brake lock-up, wouldn't you rather have that on a tyre that was about to be replaced, than one that you still wanted to do another 20 thousand miles on? 5. On a cold day, a newer tyre will grip much better than an old one. But on a hot summer afternoon, on a road with fast sweeping corners, in a car that is heavily loaded, a worn tyre generates less heat and gives off that heat much faster & easier. In most ways, a newer tyre is always better, but not in every way, not all the time.

  • @davehoffman3481

    @davehoffman3481

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the reminder on puncture resistance.

  • @billyethridge1558
    @billyethridge15586 жыл бұрын

    We learn so much from you.

  • @mobilePCreviews
    @mobilePCreviews6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jason, wouldn't the degradation of the tire compound of a worn tire effect the grip quite alot and offset any gains to be had through the increased surface area? Most guys I know that go racing shave their tire to get better lap times, but after a certain amount of heat cycles they either scrap the tires or sell them for cheap. Can you elaborate on this?

  • @druscanam
    @druscanam6 жыл бұрын

    Are you able please do a video on the affects of tyre width on both dry, wet, low grip and high grip surfaces?

  • @markletts2000
    @markletts20005 жыл бұрын

    This guys channel is awesome..just finished his turbo eps ..this is the thinking mans channel..really well explained,but some of the math formula I don't mind admitting,went straight over my head...👍🤔😳🙄

  • @100brsta
    @100brsta6 жыл бұрын

    What about the degradation of compound performance with time? I think that some great tires get really bad with age, Pirelli Cinturato is an example, after two summer seasons the compound on my tires became terribly hard, lost the grip.

  • @lz3390
    @lz33906 жыл бұрын

    Depending on the compound, some do wear through the course of the tires life. R-compounds are prone to heat cycling and start to lose their stickiness.

  • @randomvideosn0where
    @randomvideosn0where6 жыл бұрын

    My tires used to be worn out with no tread, and terrible in the rain. Now the threads are exposed and they work pretty well cutting through the water.

  • @matowixunplugged7927

    @matowixunplugged7927

    6 жыл бұрын

    GoogleMinus same with mine. They are down to the canvas and the grip is much better now.

  • @Matowix

    @Matowix

    6 жыл бұрын

    GoogleMinus I have really bald tires on all wheels and they still drive fine and I push my car round corners

  • @christoforospaphitis4090
    @christoforospaphitis40906 жыл бұрын

    In my old sporty car i have tried several tyres to finally find the one GODLIKE for it. dimensions were R15 205' 55. I originally had goodyear and my god they were horrible. I was having excellent grip for 1-2 corners then they would overheat. then I tried Yokohama, they were consistent but I wasn't really satisfied with the amount of grip they provided. Michellin's were a bit worse but then I got some Pirelli Drago P5200, the grip was not only simply amazing grip but also consistent and only a bit worse than the Yokohama in the wet. I must say however that where I live the temperatures in the summer may peak to 45C during the day and 30+C in the night. There is little rain in the winter and autumn so I was focusing mainly on dry and hot weather conditions... I could do that because at the rate I was consuming tires at the time I needed new tyres every 6 months lol without even burning tyres, just from cornering

  • @abdulazeez.98
    @abdulazeez.986 жыл бұрын

    The animations were really nice.

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Slowly getting better at it haha.

  • @abdulazeez.98

    @abdulazeez.98

    6 жыл бұрын

    Engineering Explained Wow you replied to my comment! That's amazing.

  • @todddembsky8321
    @todddembsky83216 жыл бұрын

    AH, I ain't worries about a little water, it is snow. Even a tire at 1/2 its life will decrease performance in snow. Then add a big torque monster engine and 255's on the driving wheels and you have a new contestant in the automotive Luge. Great video -- I like Engineering Explained !!!!

  • @g-mech1244
    @g-mech12446 жыл бұрын

    please do a video on "will increased intake volume (IE, intercooler pipe length/diameter,intercooler size) effect turbo lag time etc.".

  • @Grandpasaab
    @Grandpasaab4 жыл бұрын

    Question for all you guys, On a dry asphalt will a regular new tire have more grip or does the same tire but worn so much that it almost became a Semi will have more grip? my 2 front tires are worn due to trackday, and my rears have tread, cheap nankang sport tires, will the bald tires have more grip or will the rear tires with atleast 2.5mm have more grip ?

  • @kingjeff3688
    @kingjeff36886 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Very informative! Thank you!

  • @franciscogavino5506
    @franciscogavino55065 жыл бұрын

    The Oem tire for my 2018 sorento is 17".what will happen if i changed to 18"?19"?or 20"?( braking/ performance)

  • @caseysgarage5991
    @caseysgarage59916 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are always so informative, worth a watch every single time

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @DickeyHepSleeve
    @DickeyHepSleeve6 жыл бұрын

    For grip go with directional tread patterns. Look at rain tires used in racing and rear farm tractor tires.

  • @BLH130
    @BLH1306 жыл бұрын

    Jason, How about doing a whiteboard about replacing one partially worn tire on an all wheel drive car. Say 1/32 worn, 2/32s worn etcetera. After getting a flat, the tire salesman wanted to sell me four new tire because my tire had worn 3/32s and he said it would be unsafe for me to replace just one tire. Please talk about the differential, the transmission, and tire ware. Is it really unsafe, will I damage my transmission like he said? As always, great work, Keep it up!

  • @gary_dslr2615
    @gary_dslr26156 жыл бұрын

    I hope they gave you a free set of something grippy for the Crosstrek, for this most informing video , keep up the good work :)

  • @volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
    @volodymyrzakolodyazhny77404 жыл бұрын

    There can be a mistake at 1:20-1:40 - compound DOES change with wear (with time). Because rubber isn't 100% chemical inert - it changes, usually becomes firmer.

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