Love that you remembered to add the Bender sticker…classic!!

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

The bender sticker is a must at this point lol

Just ordered mine today and 2 Dies. After talking with David on the phone and watching your video it was a no brainer. Thanks again for always putting out quality videos and non biased opinions.

Your excitement was palpable. Awesome bit of kit

Thank you for doing this video i purchased the bender right after seeing this video and it arrived today, first impression is this thing rocks... thanks again for all your awesome videos

Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

Just got this bender in and put together. Thank you for this video! The instructions swag sent were not very thorough, and it being my first tube bender was a little confusing lol to toss together lol

Great tool!! Awesome video as always. Can’t wait to see more Sammy stuff 👍🏻👍🏻

I can imagine having a part like the spring no longer being a potential hazard is nice because it’s one less thing you have to subconsciously keep track of, which makes work less fatiguing and maintaining flow easier

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Dude, you nailed it. The more metal plates you are juggling, the more it affects your work. Even the small things like exposed springs are just one more hazard to be mindful of.

@bradywilliams2666

Жыл бұрын

@@DirtLifestyle I have a JD 2 bender but don't have the cylinder. I like the work out. It's not as much of a hassle to set the dies up without the cylinder. But that is probably the only difference I like. The other stuff doesn't really matter. I've bent 1.5" 1/4" wall no problem.

@mikemchaney1003

Жыл бұрын

@@bradywilliams2666 Have the jd2 with full hydraulic cylinder that has auto return. No springs to worry about, no hassle to drop dies in with the cylinder hooked up. I have no idea what he is saying about needing the bushings. I can only see a wearable item in those bushings.

I chuckled everytime I saw the Bender decal on the old one. Glad to see the new one is carrying on the tradition.

I'd love to see you do a comparison between the bends of both these benders. Put a micrometer on them to quantify which does the closest to a perfectly round bend and has the least amount of deformation.

Awesome as always

The old jd2 bender you are comparing to seems to be a early model 3. Light duty bender. The new swag bender looks to be a copy of the jd2 model 32 bender with a couple small changes. I'd be curious to see the price difference and quality of the dies after heavy usage. JD2 has a proven design with significant R&D into the die profile. Comparing a model 3 to a 32 is not even in the same ballpark. Curious to see how the swag stacks up.

@mikemchaney1003

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. These types of videos are not a direct comparison as far as apples to apples go.

@georgeosborne3913

Жыл бұрын

Happy someone said this. Poor to compare the old jd2 model, the 32 is much beefier

Thanks for the review, placed my order today..

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

No problem! This is a great unit, you will love it 👍

Love this. Much appreciated. Think I made my decision on a bender. Starting slow on getting my future shop stocked with what I want and need. From one Fabricator to another. Love your mad skills brother. Much love and good fortune

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Hey man! I really appreciate the kind words 🙌. Good luck stocking the shop! Lots of great affordable equipment options out there now!

@arnoldnunez1512

Жыл бұрын

@Dirt Lifestyle yes sir. Technology is really advancing. I'm a specialty/ combo welder by trade. Need to upgrade my welders as well 😆. Especially my aluminum tig welder. My ole tig 225 is a little outdated. Later plan to upgrade to a water cooled possibly. But us men love expensive toys. Would love a Miller pipe pro 400 for the house/ or shop to lol. That's why I'm still working in the plants. Make that money to build up my shop

@mikemchaney1003

Жыл бұрын

Might want to really consider that their dies are proprietary due to the pin size. And that means when they do not have any, you are at the mercy of their supply. Whereas with other brands you can use other dies in different benders that use a standard pin size. Just food for thought.

👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽 awesome bender. I’m glad they are making there own instead of upgrading someone else’s

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Me too!

Awesome build

You had to build a stand for both benders and when you built the one for the JD2 unit you could have very easily made the same pin holder (yes it is now a nice feature that comes on the swag, but using as many benders as I have the pins have never left the machine and always drop back into their associated holes when and when not in use). That just tells me that you and others did not think too much of it because it was never really on our minds that it was something that was necessary. As far as the external springs go, you could have removed both of these by going with an auto return ram. Or you could upgrade your old return springs with the swag elastic spring kit like on your new bender has so your buddy that is leaning on the return spring while you are working doesn't get pinched. lol Just because the pin size (and main arm material) is larger doesn't mean much unless you know the material type. They could be using a milder material that requires the increase in the size of the pin to accomplish the same thing as the smaller pins in the JD2. You know this being that you have had videos explaining the differences in tubing types and their strengths versus thickness. The other thing to think of here is when the pin size is uncommon, that makes the dies proprietary. Right now I can swap dies from a buddies Woodward bender to my JD2 and vice versa (and other brands that use the same pin diameter). This allows us to buy the dies that we most commonly use and then if the other needs to borrow one that the other doesn't have, then they are interchangeable without having to take the entire bender over to the others place. This saves us money on the onset. Lets look at the "nice" degree arm for the dial, we all know that thing will get bent. This is why all the other benders have used welding wire that is replaceable by walking to our stack and cutting a new one. You will eventually bend that one and have to do work to it to fix it back up. Especially if you are saying this is now your forever bender and will be passed down. lol separately) at roughly $900 to the JD2 Model 32 that comes with an auto return hydraulic ram

Can’t wait for the mini lathe vids🤘🏼

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Dude I'm so pumped on this thing lol

Looks like and awesome bender!

Any specific reason you chose not to mount it vertically? I did this last year and love it. Haven't run across any downfalls yet

Man I’m really excited to hopefully see you at EJS

Lovin the bender sticker bud!

Swag makes awesome stuff. 👍

4:11 welcome to my shop!

Thank you.

Out of all the benders I’ve used, my absolute favorite by far has been the jd2, but they have the model 3 and model 32 which is a bigger stronger model 3, not sure which one you have but the pins and such might be bigger depending on which one you have

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

I really like the JD2 as well! I would say for the folks that already have the JD2 to just keep it. There is no need to upgrade. But for people looking at buying their first one, the Swag has everything the jD2 has and more. After close to 10 years of projects, I can vouch the JD2 is worth its weight in gold. 👍

Come down to Sand Hollow after EJS! Spend Easter there- gonna be a good weekend of wheelin’

Thanks for the video! Do you ever wheel in Florida?

You must have had the model 3. My model 32 is built using 1/2 & 3/4" plate and has 1-1/4" main pins. Rated for 2" .250 wall IIRC. Same degree wheel as the model 3 though.

Nate, one additional thing I do with a new die after height adjustment of the follower is to tune the die to know where the actual starting point of a bend is. Every bender/die with a tube holder strap in front will benefit from this tune. Clamp up a practice tube like normal, mark the tube right at the edge of the die where you would think that the bend would begin. Use a black Sharpie. Proceed to bending the tube. Give it whatever amount of bend to at least 45°. Release and pull the tube out and look very closely to where the tube really did start to bend. You can see this on the underside of the bend where it just starts to change shape. Mark this with a line at least half way around the tube with a colored Sharpie. Preferably up the same side where your original start mark is. Now, remount your tube into the die and get it all dialed back in place right where it originally was mounted with your original Black start line. Pump enough pressure on the ram to load it up tight again. Now, look where the new colored line lands relative to your die, it will most likely be a bit further back from your original black setup line. I grind a small knick in my die right there and use this knick as my bend starting reference instead of the edge of the die. Every die will have its own tune due to the slack and or manufacturing tolerances of all the parts that work together with that die. I get way more accuracy when I am putting multiple bends in one tube. With this tune, I know EXACTLY where the bend of the tube will begin. Without this tune, you can be 1/8" to 1/2" or more off on every starting point of your bend. This can add up over the course of several bends or screw up compound bends.

i dont know if i missed it, but after you bent a piece did you check with a protractor to see if its to the degree you were bending to? or if it was off?

I like the Bender B Rodríguez stickers

Great music selections my man!

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Good day Nate. What kind of bend profile are you getting with the new bender in comparison to old realiable jd2. I’ve had mine sense the 90s. And find it hard to switch to any other binders. Most other binders damage the tubes.

Nate, love the review. ordered one today. Where do you buy your tubing from? I'm in your area.

Dude! This video is very 1-2 years ago! (Back to the roots feeling!) great video! Where’s the Miller?????

Nate are you giving the SD bender away ???? sure would love it .. its a great start to one of us fab guys

Nice bender!! It would be nice to compare vs the JD2 Model 32

You need to hook up with Matt, Paul and Rory while there. Great information.

It would be nice to see smaller dies and perhaps some different radius options.

Give your old one to Muddy Beards

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

I have another buddy that is "inheriting" it already. And Kelly doesn't have anywhere to put this thing 🤣

@Hickeyjones

Жыл бұрын

Convert it to vertical bend like mine. It takes up about 1/3 of the space.

@michaelharris1455

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I was hoping for a raffle.😄

Any chance you could do a How to video on tube bending basics, 2d and 3d bending. Any "Short cuts" and how to apply these skills to a project, say a bumper or sliders or enter project here...

Hey ..! Nate really enjoy the show.. question? What’s the measurements on this stand base & height.? Thanks 🤙

Friend, can you tell me if this tube bender force piston mechanism is pneumatic or hydraulic because I made a bending machine just like yours and I'm thinking of automating the force mechanism. Thank you for sharing these tips and very important.

What size square tube do you use on the base build to connect to the bender? Just ordered one, want to get a head start on building a stand

I like the wheeled base for the swag tube bender Could you’ll the dimensions of the base the width and the length .thanks

Try the rogue fab bender, Hands down the best bender on the market currently.

good stuff

I have that same evolution s355mcs saw. It kicks but.

Is there any way to measure the distance on the tube that is going to be perfectly middle in the bend? I mean there has to be a way to make sure you're bending the tube in the perfect place. I just have no idea how to do that :D

What would you recommend the most on dies? The 4”, 5” or the 7” CLR?

Cool!

Did you have any issues with your hydraulic press? As soon as I mounted mine. It wouldn’t operate properly and then began leaking the fluid out

Would've like to hear more about the die's. Being a different size than everyone else sounds like a potential problem in the long run.

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Good point... I think? I totally see what you are saying as far as the only place to get these dies will be from swag, BUT the dies on my JD2 are mint after all the years of use. And I got them used, btw. If you damaged one of these somehow 30 years down the line, you might be getting a repair instead of buying a new one since the size is basically proprietary. The good news is it's pretty hard to damage a solid chunk of steel, lol. But again, I see where you are coming from.

@Tippyb97

Жыл бұрын

I went to their website and all the dies are on backorder

If I’m gonna watch it commercial, I want Nate be my salesman!

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@TrailTime.

Жыл бұрын

I just grabbed a spot on Metal Masher and two other trails. Maybe I’ll swing by the On X booth and say hi if the timing works out. 🤘🏻

Love your videos Nate, you should do a collab with Ambition Strikes!

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

I really like their videos. Seems like they are good folks 👍

Yes handing my shop tools down to my kids is kewl. But MORE importantly, I DO NOT want to buy an expensive pice of equipment more than once if at all possible!!

great video are you selling your old bender?????

Do you have dies for 1"? Also can you use a 10 ton hydraulic cylinder? I use Edwards Products. I have there hydraulic pump unit. Do you think I can use your bender with there pump. Thank you

Hehe, Bender on the bender!

where did ya get the Bender Rodriquez sticker????

I can't find this model on their site? Where do you get one?

How big is your shop? 30x40?

Model 32 has a feature to lock the arm so the tube doesn't relax when resetting the ram and bigger pins. Think it would be a more fair comparison. Keep us updated on the bushings. It appears that the arm is riding on the outside and the pin on the inside with the main frame holding the bushing itself. Could be a potential problem with splitting the bushing or creating a lot of slop. I do like the idea overall though. I have a model 4 and wish it had larger pins, but if I break the 7/8" ones I guess it'll get to meet the Bridgeport . Tools can be modified just as easily as a car. Seems like a lot of people are scared to though. kind of funny because the same people don't mind cutting into a 60k dollar 4wd, but a sub 2k dollar tool is off limits.

@mikemchaney1003

Жыл бұрын

As I stated in my comment above, the good thing about the pin size of the JD2 is that it is the same as other brands and you can use their dies and guides. Having a larger pin requires that you have to use their product which makes that a no go for myself.

@jessehenry9152

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you on that. The way the model 4 operates is pretty much backwards from this design. It's a little more aggravating, but I can use the model 3 dies in it, and I've used Woodward does also after polishing the holes. Think outside the box for a second though, and if you have both sets of pins there is no reason the smaller pin does couldn't be used with an adapter sleeve top and bottom. In fact the sleeves would fit in the same location and function just like the bushings in this swag unit. Probably find most of it at any farm store for three point tractor hitch parts.

I have no need for one of these, but I want one..

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Lol. I have many tools in the wants list but only a few end up in the needs list...

Awesome bender.By chance do you have a coupon code before I grab anything from them?

@jake-mv5oi

Жыл бұрын

Cyber Monday is the only time their stuff seems to go on sale.

Just a historical FYI. The JD2 is a Hossfeld knockoff. The JD2 dies don't usually fit the Hossfeld. I have seen a 2 hydraulic cylinder set up for a Hossfeld that will do 120 degrees in one hit. Do NOT be scared of getting Bend Tech Pro (or whatever the new version is). Also, calibrating your dies is no bullshit. Not necessary, till you try to do a single tube, multi bend deal. If you don't mind splicing roll cage main hoops together, you may ignore that advice. If you want to get GOOD,,, well,,, get the right stuff. Mittler Brothers makes a kick ass bender. CLEAN THE TUBE !!!! Dirt and rust will score dies and that'll score tube. That Swag bender is bad ass, and well thought out. Huge improvement over the old Hossfeld, and an improvement on the JD2.

Priced the same as the tested and proven jd2 Model 32. There aren’t even any specs on the capabilities of the Swag bender - is it too new for them to be able to stand by them or does it not match up with the similarly priced Model 32? Are there going to be issues with all of the proprietary parts and lack of interchangeable components down the road? How well does it hold up? How precise and clean are the bends? Why is the video comparison based on a lighter duty older model from jd2? Seems like way more research could have gone into this - hopefully people aren’t running out and buying this model based on the video alone and not looking into it a bit further.

Hey Nate. Could you link the blades you use on your metal chop saw? I’m sick of using the giant cutoff wheel types on mine.

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

These blades are specifically designed for the evolution saw. I'm not sure if there is a blade that is made for your traditional abrasive disc style chop saw but it would be worth looking into. I think the issue you will find is the saw speed. These evolution saws run at the perfect RPM to work with this exact blade. That one reason why they last so long. Good luck!

@Tonnsfabrication

Жыл бұрын

RPM's are seriously reduced on metal cut saws, not the same as abrasive wheels. Just suck it up and buy one, you won't be sorry if you do lots of metal fab.

are you comparing that to a model 3? that's not a fair comparison as far as pin size

What die would you recommend getting if you can only afford to get one set? Basically just bumpers and sliders on jeeps and Toyotas.

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

1 3/4". This is by far the most common size used for cages, sliders and bumpers. Then buy a bunch of full sticks of 1 3/4" .120 wall tube, and you are ready to build just about anything 👍.

@ZJ_Rubicon

Жыл бұрын

@@DirtLifestyle Thank you so much! Can't wait to get one and start practicing some fab skills.

What model is tour JD squared rig? Model 2 or model 32? I have the model 32. Was curious.

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

I have wondered the same! I don't think it says on the bender, but I will double-check.

As soon as “Bender” made his Appearance, I started looking for his “shiny metal . . .”

LANDCRUISER!

Did I miss what size square tube slides into the bender ?

@sanimalp

Жыл бұрын

It's 2in x 2in. source: I own the rev2.

I am looking at getting the evolution circular metal saw for a flat bed project I have coming up. Can I ask if you like and suggest yours?

@jamiethomas8975

Жыл бұрын

from what ive heard in other videos he absolutely loves it! I bought one after seeing him praising his and I have no regrets. It cuts like butter!

@jadebrecks

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiethomas8975 Much appreciated! Unfortunately his discount code doesn't work anymore 😞

Looks like a beautifully made machine but I can't believe they left that flame cut edge on the frame and just put the black finish over it, especially since it appears the rest of it may have been machined on the outside profile. That one should've gone to the scrap pile.

That is an awesome looking bender. I just emailed Swag with some questions and referenced your video. My big need is for a bender that can bend up to 2” .250 DOM

@Marcus_Woodard

Жыл бұрын

Look at the Rogue Fab benders too.

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Good question! I would bet this could do the job as long as the ram is upto it. 2 x 1/4 has some serious strength and is hard as hell to bend.

@max7143

Жыл бұрын

@@DirtLifestyle The Pins and the 3/4” plate on the Swag have me impressed. I bent 1.75” .250 DOM on an old M-Tech prototype bender using a Swag Harbor Freight air ram kit. The Ram had no problem bending it, but it also bent almost every pin on the bender.

@max7143

Жыл бұрын

@@Marcus_Woodard I’ve been eyeballing Rogue for a while now and never pulled the trigger. My issue has been I’m more familiar with bending horizontal as apposed to vertical. Maybe it’s not an actual issue.

@turbolab2376

Жыл бұрын

I just bought a jd model 32 yesterday. They advertise it capable of 2” .250 I’m looking forward to using it bought it with the 1.75 die will get more in the future but I intend on bending up bumpers for a couple full size trucks and think that’s a decent start point. Ain’t cheap in Canada.

It’s a jd2 model 32 copy with a few tweaks. looks like his jd2 is the old smaller model they don’t sell anymore

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! When I go to the JD2 website, I don't see an upgraded needle for the degree wheel or bronze bushings in between body/swing arm. Are pictures not updated or something?

@goathunter2007

Жыл бұрын

Looks like a great bender I think it’s going to come down to price point bender and dies Vs jd2. are you going to be able to get parts, dies and dies sizes 10-15-20 years later if you can’t interchange between the two brands. Swag makes quality tools and dies no doubt about it

@kevinmtoyota

Жыл бұрын

@@DirtLifestyle the model 32 doesnt have those fancy things but the frame is bigger/thicker and the pins are bigger, so basically it wasn’t an apples to apples comparison but yeah the swag has some nice upgrades over the model 32 regardless

Nice video what’s the cost of the bender

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

It was changing a little bit, so I'm not exactly sure what it is now. It's a brand new product so they are working out details like assembly costs and materials, If I was to guess. 👍

I think the base you built may become cumbersome and in the way of your feet 🤷🏻‍♂️ i dont know what the answer is on the correct shape , but i have seen it get in your way a cpl of times already on the video… just my unrequested 2 cents😂😂

How well does it do with aluminum tubing?

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Good question! I'm not sure yet. I have bent aluminum tube before, but it's rare.

@Fix_It_Again_Tony

Жыл бұрын

I think it really comes down to the center line radius of the dies and the alloy and heat treatment of the aluminum. Any bender will have the power to bend aluminum, but to not rip it apart you might need a bigger CLR for aluminum than you would use for the same OD and wall thickness steel tube. Structural aluminum is commonly available in 6061-T6, but because this is hardened it is very difficult to bend. An alloy like 6063-T5 is easier to bend, but not as strong. If you really need the strength of 6061-T6 then you will need to send the weldment out of heat treating after welding anyway, so it should be anneal before being bent.

So... are you gonna give one of those benders away? I need one.

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

Nope, it belongs to my buddy Nick now 👍

@lanemichaelmcconnell-hand1472

Жыл бұрын

@@DirtLifestyle Lucky Nick. Love all the work you do Nate. Keep it up.

So you're telling me that swag has a tube bender now and how much is it

😎👍

Really should have researched the entire JD squared model availability prior to making this video. I'd venture to guess that you have a model 3 where as that SWAG unit is copied off of a model 32.

WHERE'S YOUR "PPE"??!!...

Discount code…🎉

Bender! Hahahahahahahahahaha

Sell me your old bender!

@DirtLifestyle

Жыл бұрын

My buddy Nick owns it now 👍 My friends often inherit my tools, lol.

@CalicoRiot

Жыл бұрын

​@Dirt Lifestyle did swag give you a discount code? 🤔

Nice products. I do like their stuff . . . _but_ . . . I cannot stand the name of the company. SWAG? Really? How phu-King Ghey.