To confirm the SWAG MACHINED TUBING BENDER AIR/HYDRAULIC RAM MOUNT needs to be for a Woodward Fab WFB2 correct?

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

Yes the WFB2 is the swag clamp I got and worked perfectly. If you ever need to do .188 wall thickness I’d strongly consider the www.swagoffroad.com/products/swag-machined-tubing-bender-air-hydraulic-ram-mount?variant=41836911722681

@johnvansloun7443

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. Can you confirm the dies and part # as well? thanks!

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

@@johnvansloun7443 I got the 120* 1.75 die. It’s part number WFBDT 1-3/4 x 6

This is the type of content we like to see as offroad enthusiasts and builders. Saving coin here and there can go along ways towards nice parts

Awesome video, I've been looking at some benders and for me just starting out I think this would be perfect! Glad it popped up on my recommended! Thanks for the info!

Awesome review and explanation!

Excellent info here, thanks!!

great video I was looking to try to find a cheaper way to get a bender in my shop and this is what I needed. Thank you

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

I’m usually the last guy to recommend a foreign product, but if the budget is tight this works!!

What a great video! I subscribed. Can’t wait to see your next videos!

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

👍🏼

Companies could make a killing down here in NZ or Aus with these benders, they want about 2.5k US without dies which puts it out of the game for most people and it sucks as you have to rely on others which just ups the cost of building even basic things and with added taxes on importing stuff its just crazy. Honestly i don't care were stuff is made as long its quaility and they have good support - even baileigh now makes stuff from china. Thanks for the upload and review

Great video !!! THANK YOU instantly subscribed !!!!!

Thanks for the breakdown.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

👍🏼. it’s definitely not easy to publicly recommend a Chinese knockoff. Wish we all had a extra grand every time we go to buy a new tool!!

@williamherring5441

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. No doubt….Sometimes you buy the best because you need it or want it and other times you get good enough because it’s the best you can do until something changes. Many times it’s turned out just fine for me. I think you mitigated the risk just fine. You can always update the video with the good or bad as you do more stuff with it.

nice explanation

Engine stand is brilliant...

Thanks for sharing

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

Glad you found it helpful somehow.

Whoa! Was that a fizgig, or a tribble that I seen roll across the floor. I didnt even see that Shepard for the first 5 mins.

Great info! Thanks for sharing your f-ups so the next guy doesn’t have to. That Jeep looks flat nasty! Subscribed!!

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

We all f up. It’s better to learn from other people‘s mistakes. It’s going to be a great year for wheeling the CJ. The snow is melting now!

@user-ji8ls9dr9f

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. 1000%

Awesome video brother. As an average guy, I have to pick and choose what to put my money into. I'm all about buying nice tools when it makes sense, but I'm not a fab shop so buying a 1k+ tube bending setup doesn't make much sense. This is great!

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

I feel the same way. This felt like this was the best way to get a semiprofessional style bender on a regular man’s budget.

It’s crazy how fast and expensive used benders go for on marketplace in my area. I have been wanting a bender for a very long time. I almost regret not getting the JD 2 but this cheep bender works and I’m trying to put the money in Jeep parts instead.

@foregonetrails

Ай бұрын

Great video! I was lucky and picked up a JD2 here locally with 3 dies, hydraulic ram, and stand for only $700. But this is a great option.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

@@foregonetrails That’s awesome! Can’t go wrong with JD2 🇺🇸.

Maybe I missed it but where did you get 1 3/4" die for $272? Thanks. Great video, really informative.

My questions are how thick are the bender frames? What is the max angle the dies can bend. Looks like 90* only. My JD2 dies are 180* and the frame is 3/4" thick. Also the degree dial is easy to read so no second wheel needed. Also what is the pin diameter? JD is 7/8" for all but the center which is fatter.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

The bender will work with 180* dies. Three pins are 7/8” and the center pin is 1”. The arms are 5/8”

So Amazon is just under 3 but swag is over 3 with a little tig weld and grinding to fit can make the swag work on cheaper option mentally noted

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

The mounting clamps that hold the hydraulic ram to the bender only accept a 80mm outside diameter hydraulic ram. The only place that sells a 80mm ram is Harbor Freight, the rams that are sold on Amazon are 78mm and will not work with any of the Swag Off-road bender ram clamps. I should have explained it a bit better in the video. Thanks for asking.👍🏼

@bassinshankles

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. You explained it perfectly what I'm saying is tig weld inside the clamping area of the swag clamp to decrease the size of the opening from 80mm to 78mm best you can and grind it to fit

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

@@bassinshankles It definitely crossed my mind, I decided to use the 78mm air over hydraulic ram on my engine hoist. I get a lot more use out of the engine hoist and I really enjoy having it air powered now.

@powerwagon3731

Ай бұрын

Great work! Got to get me this setup for my 1980 short bed power wagon build.

are ya bending that with a little heat ? or is it really that stout of a bender ?

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

No heat. The .120 wall was easy cold. I definitely had my safety squints and a grin on my face when I was bending the .188 wall. I knew I was maxing it out.

nice content

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

I appreciate it. I really enjoy working on and having fun with Jeeps! Thanks for watching.

@mehedihasanbh29

Ай бұрын

welcome,,,, I analyzed your KZread channel and found that you are doing something wrong in uploading your videos and that's why your KZread channel does not rank on the top search result.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

@@mehedihasanbh29 I do this for fun, if ppl find it then good for them, if not… I still head fun!! Thanks for watching though.

Definitely way more prepared in you video than mine go 👌🏻. Turn your music audio to -3db brother.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

If only I didn’t say “Woodward Fab” a thousand times!! I cringe when I watch my videos. In my mind I feel like i said something great but then…..nope! Every time I think I have the music turned down in the edit it always feels to loud!! It happens to me almost every time.

@BlackAndBlueGarage

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. Same man, same

@DonnieDispersed

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime.if your editing software has a DB reading for individual tracks. Aim for voice to hit -10 on average and music to hit -25 on average or even lower if needed when there’s talking.

Where did you get the release knob on your cherry picker?

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

www.swagoffroad.com/products/swag-machined-thumb-knob-for-round-hydraulic-bottle-jack-release-valves?_pos=1&_sid=20af7fc6e&_ss=r

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

Video about it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oq17r9VxY6u8ndY.htmlsi=BXcQnPvWK8sF96WY

@duanebrenneman8296

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. Sweet! Thanks!!!

Where did you get the (yellow) degree wheel?????

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

www.jmrmfg.com/collections/tube-benders I sandwiched it in between the bender and the original degree wheel.

and how do ypu hold it from moving? Plus if it wont bend 2" 120 wall. no good.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

2” .120 wall would be no problem. I’ve only been bending 1 3/4” DOM. Both .120 and .188 Wall thickness. The bender will handle 2” with the proper die. I use adjustable roller stands to support the tube during setup while confirming the tube is in plane. Once a bend starts there is plenty of force holding it during the bend. After a bend i position the roller stands under the new shape and release the die clamp. The engine stand has no problem holding the weight.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

I could have explained it better. The only part that is underrated is the Ram mount. swag off-road has a better one that’s rated for up to .188 wall thickness. The one I have is only good enough for up to .120 wall. Thanks for watching.

I looked at some budget benders. How many of them are rated to bend mild steel tubing with 1.75 od and a minimum wall thickness of .118 per nhra? Not all of them. And that size you better be hitting the gym a lot and have a cheater bar 20 ft long to bend by hand. Even some of the larger table top units with a bottle jack don’t meet the requirement. I get if you are just building bumpers of light bars. But roll cages are about safety, not about being thrifty or cheap when your life may be saved by a good cage.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

Definitely use the rulebook of the sanctioning body that you will be participating in. Bending .120 isn’t hard on a mechanical bender of this design. A 4’ leverage bar is more than enough for 1.750 x .120 DOM tubing on a mechanical bender.

I wanted the review on how it bends and performs

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

It’s coming. I’m going to do a great video about it.

You can make better bends by hand.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

I think you’re over estimating me, haha. But I’m interested….

@LNWLF-cb3di

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. I'm not trying to be "one of those guys" talking out their... Just sayin, when your inching up on an angle it's a lot easier to get it right by hand. Once you go too far.. You're too far is all. Happy Wheelin!!

It’s not high quality. I have this 209 bender and the arm has ALOT of play in it. I had to weld several plates to it so it didn’t slump. Also a company named Grizzly offers dies that work for this bender for a fraction of the cost of Woodward fab or any other die

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

Interesting, you have my attention. Is it the center pin insert bushing that is worn out? Everything else is 3/4” steel bolted together. I’m not picturing much that could be sloppy other than the bushing to have any play. I’m not using the mechanical arm though. That went to the scrap bin in day one. I went straight to the hydraulic ram. Thanks.

@RELAXnRENOVATE

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. That’s exactly what it is. The bushings aren’t an exact fit around the pin nor inside the hole they go in so there is so much slop that the arm hangs at a pretty decent slope as it sways through the bend. I added some plates and drilled the holes to be more exact around the pin, plus added some spacers to the mechanical arm to make it more tight. It’s a lot more tight and level in action than it was. I’m going to be making a lot of compound bends so I need it to be tight.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

@@RELAXnRENOVATE this is why I started the video talking about JD2. When a cheep knock off company is selling stuff quality control issues are always a problem. I may have gotten lucky with mine the clearance on the center pin are tight. I don’t know how long it will last (especially bending.188 wall) the Jd2 says their model 32 is good for up to 2” .250 Wall DOM. Thanks for sharing your experience.

@RELAXnRENOVATE

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. I thought about the effect a hydraulic ram would have on the stability of the swing arm. It seems like having it mounted stationary is what gives a normally sloppy sway arm a little more rigidity. That might be why you didn’t notice it since you discontinued the mechanical arm right away. Anyways…check out the grizzly bender. It’s the same as this 209 bender but with inexpensive die sets. That company offers a 1.5” 180 degree 4.5” radius for under $300.00. The other companies are around $500.00 for that specific die. Seems high quality so far. It’s worth checking out

I think we must be past caring about US made. Remember, it's your neighbors that have businesses like JD2.

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

Trust me. I’m always the last guy to recommend a foreign anything. I was spending so much money on Jeep parts when I bought this bender I had to save some money somewhere. I tried to start this video, giving Jd2 the credit they have earned.

@pcoplin

Ай бұрын

Totally get it. Especially when eggs are like $10 a dozen!

@eddieknight9234

Ай бұрын

The benders are mass produced plasma cut flat plate.......absolutely no reason that "American" is literally double the price for exactly the same pieces made with the exact same process.........

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

@@eddieknight9234 the real deal breaker for me was $179 shipping.

@Burnit53

Ай бұрын

@@TrailTime. Free with Prime..

Would've been nice if you focused more on the bender. Your too far. All wee see is the jeep and you 😒

@TrailTime.

Ай бұрын

I’m making a video next week titled using the $209 Amazon Roll cage tube bender. It will be the one to watch. This was a introduction to the bender. I’ll answer all the questions I get. Thanks for the feedback

Had one of these and wasn't very impressed. Lose tolerances and poor machining. Guess you get what you pay for 🤷‍♂️. Ended up selling it and buying the REV 2 complete bender from Swag Offroad. Couldn't be happier with it. I'll shell out a few more Biden bucks for a product made in the US.

@4Low_life

Ай бұрын

Glad the Joe Biden economy is working for you💰. Some people need to save when they can.

@donjohnson5424

Ай бұрын

@4Low_life I definitely get that man... someday money will be worth something again...