NEW Porsche 992GTS and five reasons you might take it over the 992GT3

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Car experts perpetually want to declare which is the best real world Porsche 911. They say the current base Carrera could be more aggressive, the GT3 needs to be less hard and they ask why a Turbo S costs more than the national debt.
And while Porsche sticks to their two year product cycle it seems they listen because they’ve just given us a 911 which both adds and subtracts.
this new 992 GTS has added aggression but has anything been taken away?
And can it be better in any way than the car awarded the title of best drivers car 2022, the new GT3 ?
Well my plan is to compare these two and to offer up 5 reasons why you may just want to take this GTS rather than that GT3.
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  • @MAXREVS
    @MAXREVS Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Roger, you have outdone yourself in making this video. For me personally the best video you’ve made this year. Great angles and camera work and fantastic subject matter comparing these two cars. Hats off mate!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thanks Max !

  • @AckenCamera
    @AckenCamera Жыл бұрын

    Love your video ! I am a happy 992GTS owner , it is perfect and beyond imagination

  • @barryseal5730
    @barryseal5730 Жыл бұрын

    excellent!! a Roger Bailey video, time to sit back and be entertained

  • @DM-MayBee
    @DM-MayBee Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful review. Very balanced and very insightful. Another great video and review RB, very well done and thanks.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @dianapalmerston2194
    @dianapalmerston2194 Жыл бұрын

    Diva. Great video Roger. An excellent comparison video of two fantastic cars. One of your best!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    glad you liked it x

  • @Jupa
    @Jupa Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I really appreciate this and will keep this video in mind one day when I get a job

  • @6juliuserving
    @6juliuserving Жыл бұрын

    I have both cars a Carrera 4S and a GT3. They are completely different characters. A GTS is for traveling, from a to b, a GT3 is for driving out of your garage, have fun for two hours and drive right back into it. But those two hours are topped by absolutely nothing. A. GT 3 is a complete class by itsself.

  • @davidkn

    @davidkn

    Жыл бұрын

    you dont have both cars though, you have a 4S, a 4S is not a 992 GTS, its a completely different car, especially in 4 form.

  • @Steve-yr5vi

    @Steve-yr5vi

    Ай бұрын

    Making any 911 a "4" moves it from "sports car" to "fast commuter" or if you prefer, wanna be rally car. A Carrera S also is almost, but not quite a GTS.

  • @mickmoorhouse9834
    @mickmoorhouse983411 ай бұрын

    Great informative video......mine is due in a few weeks, you have put my mind at rest now.....can't wait!!!

  • @BB-ii3or
    @BB-ii3or Жыл бұрын

    by far the best youtube channel there is when i comes to car reviews, very skilfully made roger bailey great video

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thanks!

  • @sitipo3547
    @sitipo3547 Жыл бұрын

    for me this is the best car review channel on youtube, keep them coming Mr Bailey

  • @robertgregory1927
    @robertgregory1927 Жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison video!

  • @mohamedmayet4522
    @mohamedmayet4522 Жыл бұрын

    Agree 💯 Roger! That black example of a GTS is superb! 😎

  • @dewitudur.dyddiauyndonnini741
    @dewitudur.dyddiauyndonnini741 Жыл бұрын

    Very enjoyable video Roger. Grazie.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @Spook-ru6eu
    @Spook-ru6eu Жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this one, a proper comparison of GTS & GT3 and its by the maestro of Porsche reviewing, excellent job roger

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks spook

  • @MAXREVS

    @MAXREVS

    Жыл бұрын

    2nd and 3rd your comments @Spook 1111

  • @Pedro-rx2jd

    @Pedro-rx2jd

    Жыл бұрын

    Possibly Catchpole the maestro but Roger is right up there as well, in fact Roger is more impressive as I think he works alone so I've heard

  • @stephenlane9168
    @stephenlane9168 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Roger, nice work 👌👏

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Stephen👍

  • @michaels3897
    @michaels3897 Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your videos here in Colorado. Drive an M4 Competition, but love Porsches and Corvettes. You always seem to get to the meat of the review clearly. Keep them coming! This one was really fun.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Michael - Will do!

  • @saurabhpatel6630
    @saurabhpatel6630 Жыл бұрын

    My 992 gts is on the boat to United States! I driven both and GTS felt faster in a straight line but cornering was amazing on a GT3.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    you have a great car incoming !

  • @abiazis1
    @abiazis1 Жыл бұрын

    I went Turbo S and no regrets selling my GT3 as daily driving is my use......unbeatable daily especially on the low end torque being there versus other 911s....

  • @antoniodias8088
    @antoniodias8088 Жыл бұрын

    Very very good comparison.. Great review Sir

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @parodontitis
    @parodontitis Жыл бұрын

    Great Video comparing exactly these 2 cars. I ordered the GTS.

  • @barryhoft4123
    @barryhoft4123 Жыл бұрын

    Loved the video as always Mr Bailey, and I agree on your findings ! Well done Sir ! Both lovely machines but GT3 is in another league, so much more emotional as you've so well shown us ! GTS is such a great all rounder ! Greetings also to Mrs. B !

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Barry, Mrs B sends her best

  • @WFO.
    @WFO.2 ай бұрын

    Help from 🇺🇸. Very well done review. Ordered my ‘24 911 GTS Coupe last week.

  • @philjones4141
    @philjones4141 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video - well done

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks Phil

  • @J-Tiger
    @J-Tiger Жыл бұрын

    I chose gts and I am satisfied. Actually, it's the same price as gt3 because it's a 4 gts cabriolet, but it's more useful 👍

  • @mikew9113

    @mikew9113

    Жыл бұрын

    Waiting on my 23 Carrera 4 GTS Coupe in Averturine Green Metallic to arrive later this month. Getting psyched!

  • @D992
    @D992 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video Roger ☺️👍🏼 Hi from over the water 👍🏼

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello there!

  • @kw8757
    @kw8757 Жыл бұрын

    Nice drone footage of West Kirby at the end of the video Roger. GT3 every time for me, but until I win the lotto I'll just make do with my Cayman.

  • @74aamer
    @74aamer Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation

  • @deepakchanrai5842
    @deepakchanrai5842 Жыл бұрын

    Great review of the GTS, thank you! I’m tempted to order a manual one..

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks, hope you do so..

  • @bsmuda
    @bsmuda Жыл бұрын

    Oliver with the cutest of noise reviews

  • @Daniel-hg4hb
    @Daniel-hg4hb Жыл бұрын

    brilliant video, best channel out there

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thanks!

  • @user-qn6yt3zx3w
    @user-qn6yt3zx3w Жыл бұрын

    In my market, a well used 2019 GTS sells for more than the list price of a 2019 GT3. Crazy market dynamics…

  • @robbey300
    @robbey300 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Roger loved the Thunderbirds countdown (amazing childhood memories as I was T2) - excellent content and editing. For me it’s the GTS all day long. Looks like Oliver had a funday out! 😎

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it Robbey, nice seeing you,

  • @David-lt2fq
    @David-lt2fq4 ай бұрын

    Another excellent, on point video and all so true. This is the 911 I would recommend to 99% of those looking to own and truly enjoy the entire 911 experience.

  • @Driven-Productions
    @Driven-Productions Жыл бұрын

    Awe your grandson screaming noisy - now ain’t that your definitive “is it loud” test right there 💯 😂 Good content!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Children say it as it is ! Cheers - Roger

  • @terencelee00
    @terencelee009 ай бұрын

    I had until recently a 991.2 GTS with PDK and just upgraded to a 991.2 GT3 Touring. The GTS is fantastic, probably faster in a straight line, and comfortable. However, it left me wanting more. The GT3 gives that to me. It’s harder to drive and is a lot less practical and comfortable (bucket seats), but you can’t beat it for raw emotion, if that trade-off is worth it to you. I find the ride to be marginally stiffer and of course it sits lower. The steering is more precise and gives me much more confidence in the corners. Completely different cars and can’t go wrong either way. Btw love your videos. You’re very articulate and knowledgeable. And the rock music is cool.

  • @David-lt2fq

    @David-lt2fq

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed, except I think the road noise, suspension, and rpm range of torque usability as a daily driver in the gt3 is not optimal for most people. It is simply too extreme. As far as the comfort factor, ordered my 992 Touring with the 18 way seats and they are great. I love all the road noise, the suspension and rpm range, especially with the third pedal. If you are into that, the gt3 is awesome! Enjoy your car.

  • @bilalsalim1171
    @bilalsalim1171 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the Video comparing both vehicles. I ordered a GTS which will be delivered mid October. Total wait time for it would have been about 1 year. Doing that put me further up on the list with my dealership for a GT3 which is estimated at 3 years away for 992.2 generation car.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi bilal you have a great car incoming

  • @volkankuru3586
    @volkankuru3586 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Roger! Great Video.. I just order a GTS yesterday and I was very happy to watch your Clip, which simply confirms what a complete sports car the GTS is.. now I am having a tough time waiting till delivery in November 😕

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped !

  • @davidkn

    @davidkn

    Жыл бұрын

    youre very lucky if you only have to wait until November, In the uk the wait is more like 18-24 months now. ive waited 12 months and mine is due this week.

  • @JC-qf1jd
    @JC-qf1jd Жыл бұрын

    gts in that same spec is my dream car - unless i can get a gt3 touring!

  • @mark82421
    @mark82421 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video, and fully agree with your GTS verdict (hence I ordered one.... 18month wait though....)

  • @stefanmeyer4190
    @stefanmeyer4190 Жыл бұрын

    I can see why a GTS will apeal to a broad audiance but for raw thrills I'd take the GT3 all day long, as it happens I haven't got the money needed for either of them.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope you have the money one day

  • @tredfxman

    @tredfxman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RogerBaileyOnCars Id pick the GTS coz very seldom ill have the need for a GT3. Im also arguing if the GT3 must be a harscher chassis to ride in towns with, but im guessing Porsche has something like Volkswagens DCC system (Dynamic Chassis Control) so chassis can adapt with push of a button?

  • @davidkn

    @davidkn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tredfxman it does , PDCC, but I dont think its available on the GT3, but is on a GTS

  • @TrackMonkey327
    @TrackMonkey327 Жыл бұрын

    I love your videos, Roger. I live in California and I have to say that the 718 Cayman/Boxster base with 6-speed MT may, in fact, be the best car for California roads (including the engaging canyon roads) and traffic situations. Plus, gas mileage is pretty good with the 2.0T engine. Keep up the great work!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks and yes that 2.0L 718 is a peach.

  • @benpenagonzales6014

    @benpenagonzales6014

    Жыл бұрын

    Fair. Had a cheap 986 few years ago. I want the lower power as it means more time enjoying it! And roads are so bad in SE UK I sold my M3 CONVERTIBLE on eibachs as too annoying!

  • @tomingrassiaimages8776
    @tomingrassiaimages8776 Жыл бұрын

    Great review Roger....makes so much sense. By the way..my Targa 4S gets built next week!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope the next few days pass quickly !

  • @richardkennett4086
    @richardkennett4086 Жыл бұрын

    The 911 is a car that gets under your skin in a way that if ever you own one and then sell it you just know you will want another. There really is one for everyone. The Turbo S just does everything, GT3 is an aural delight. The base Carrera is pure 911 and wonderful. The GTS is the absolute consummate all-rounder. But If I had to choose a body style to turn heads it would be the 992 GTS Targa 4. It might be the heaviest, but it will get you from A to B in style. That folding roof is really handy when you want to pack things in when touring too, it gives great access! If you are fit enough to get in and out, plus you can afford one it will be a car you will not regret buying! The perfect sports car. Graet video as always Roger!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally with you Richard on the Targa 4 GTS - cool factor is off the scale and you don't notice the extra weight. - cheers , Roger

  • @johseb1
    @johseb1 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Roger. Congrats for your beautiful GT3 and the video. As far as I understand, it is quite difficult to get a GT3 allocation in the UK. In Italy, my Porsche Zentrum would let me order both GTS and GT3. In this case, there is no discussion in my eyes if you are looking for a “weekend” car, GT3 all day long! Keep the great content.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    interesting information thanks Sebastian.

  • @rubensantos2977
    @rubensantos2977 Жыл бұрын

    Another great porsche vid from Sir Roger. Hope we get a review of a gts 2 wheel drive manual. Heard porsche made changes to the gts' manual trans. Please making more videos Sir Roger. More power!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks Sir Ruben, nice hearing from you, more cars to come - RB

  • @Cars-and-Things
    @Cars-and-Things Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic comparison Roger. Both are great cars. My friend is locking down his GTS spec at Chester OPC as I type this. Lucky chap! 👍😎

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    lucky chap indeed

  • @derrickyap4629
    @derrickyap4629 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and quality filming! What are your thoughts re a big spoiler / aerokit on a GTS?

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Derrick, aero kit is not a bad idea, personally I don't think I would, however they do look impressive in the metal - Roger

  • @jeffreygriffith6399
    @jeffreygriffith6399 Жыл бұрын

    Nice Roger! You’ve sold me!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Jeffrey - thats excellent !!

  • @Jupa
    @Jupa Жыл бұрын

    I actually saw one of these recently on the road and thought to myself, jesus Porsche has stepped up. That looks very much like a supercar like any other Lamborghini or Ferrari. The rear side especially.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    yes they have road presence

  • @deepakchanrai5842
    @deepakchanrai5842 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @luqmankhan5863
    @luqmankhan586310 ай бұрын

    Thank you for that reaffirmation- I have just taken delivery of the 992 4GTS- racing yellow. Where do I go after this😂

  • @theairwave6403
    @theairwave6403 Жыл бұрын

    How did you attach a baby seat to the buckets?

  • @anthonymolet2574
    @anthonymolet2574 Жыл бұрын

    Hi! Would recommend the manual gearbox on the GTS?

  • @rosscurrier1155
    @rosscurrier1155 Жыл бұрын

    I recently got an allocation for a GTS (yay!!!). Really had my heart set on a Targa non-GTS but that wasn’t about to happen anytime soon so the GTS coupe will just have to ‘do’ until I get a shot at theTarga. Roger, your video definitely convinced me that I will in no way be disappointed with this car. Thanks for your perspective and excellent video! Still won’t be driving it until spring ’23, but I’m even more pumped now after watching.

  • @silvercat7328

    @silvercat7328

    Жыл бұрын

    Somethings are worth waiting for! 🥂 (800 miles on mine, another 200 & it’s sports plus time).

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    well worth the wait !

  • @davidkn

    @davidkn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silvercat7328 pretty sure the manual says 1600 miles for run in isnt it?

  • @silvercat7328

    @silvercat7328

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkn you’re right! Page 15 of the manual; 1,865 miles. Sales dude said 1000 which I passed yesterday & promptly gave it some. I’ll back it off for another 800. Cheers 🥂.

  • @davidkn

    @davidkn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silvercat7328 its a lot of miles isnt it, ive never heard of it being so high, pretty sure my 991.2 was only 1000 miles. my 992 GTS arrived at the dealer today, so not long for me, and I'll be working through those miles too!

  • @moneytycoonfx
    @moneytycoonfx Жыл бұрын

    Toppp review 🙌🙌🙌

  • @rashidalameeri
    @rashidalameeri Жыл бұрын

    Hello Roger.. thanks for the great video… I want your opinion… is base 992 deserve to spend money for it..?

  • @michaelzehnder3040
    @michaelzehnder3040 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @xXAlmdudlerXx
    @xXAlmdudlerXx Жыл бұрын

    Both are beyond my reach but I spent some time in the configurator and found the GTS to be better looking in all black with the aeropackage. Also a simple stage 1 tune will make it faster in a straight line than a GT3. Of course when specking the GTS as I wish it costs close to a Turbo.

  • @wdfaws8124
    @wdfaws8124 Жыл бұрын

    The Thunderbirds! Love it!

  • @zaidawni1867
    @zaidawni18678 ай бұрын

    Thank you for saving me $120k. I almost pulled the plug on getting a GT3 touring to replace my GTS (that looks identical to the one you featured) !!

  • @hamadmazmi3384
    @hamadmazmi3384 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Roger I like your review it's great.. For me I am seeing my self in a Gt3 touring but still not sure manual or PDK.. I woned both and live them both

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks Hamad, theres no wrong choice

  • @nydental
    @nydental Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the information. But when you spec. out the GT3 and the GTS 4, price difference is only $15,000

  • @mikew9113
    @mikew911311 ай бұрын

    Great review, Roger. You mention all the points that made my decision on the GTS. I could be wrong but I read somewhere that the torque numbers on the GTS are even higher than the GT3 and 0-60 is only .1 second slower...2.7 GT3 vs 2.8 GTS. Fast enough for me. Just got the email today that my Aventurine Green Metallic Carrera 4 GTS just got put on the boat from Germany....next week will drag by...but getting excited.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Mike, you have a great car incoming ! - Roger

  • @RB-xv4si
    @RB-xv4si2 ай бұрын

    If you configure a GTS with all the lightweight bits (carbon roof, lightweight/noise insulated glass, PCCBs, and full buckets seats/rear seat delete) and the Aerokit, I imagine the performance is damn close to a GT3.

  • @Pedro-rx2jd
    @Pedro-rx2jd Жыл бұрын

    dyou' know I'd probably take the GTS given the choice. Excellent comparison review Roger

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    there's no wrong choice

  • @winstoncallaway
    @winstoncallaway Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Looks awesome in black. My 4 GTS order just locked in PTS Sports Classic Grey, but this spec with the yellow carbons ceramics is making me second guess that choice!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    yours sounds awesome, congratulations

  • @winstoncallaway

    @winstoncallaway

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RogerBaileyOnCars Thank you!

  • @TuvingtonD

    @TuvingtonD

    Жыл бұрын

    I considered a PTS color for my 4 GTS. Save your money unless you are optioning a uniquely eye popping PTS color, which Sports Classic Grey is not.

  • @winstoncallaway

    @winstoncallaway

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TuvingtonD To each their own, I suppose!

  • @davidkn

    @davidkn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TuvingtonD im with you, no point in ordering grey for PTS personally, my 991.2 GTS was viper green, and ive gone for Signal yellow this time :)

  • @ghowells5433
    @ghowells5433 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Roger. As a daily driver the GTS is the better car, but for pure driving there is no competition particularly given residuals for the gt3. I’m never selling my 991.2 gt3, just lucky enough to have a 2022 Macan GTS as a daily.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    nice collection of cars there!

  • @garymarsh3734
    @garymarsh3734 Жыл бұрын

    well judged entertaining comparison, the main reason of course is number one

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks and good point

  • @winkstorm
    @winkstorm Жыл бұрын

    Give the GTS a stage 1 ECU tune file, it will be significantly faster than the NA GT3.

  • @stevenoujaim1422
    @stevenoujaim1422 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Roger How do I get hold of a front number plate like that on the GT3?

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    pro plates

  • @MooseMeus
    @MooseMeus Жыл бұрын

    i like the gt3 touring. all of the 992's are perfect

  • @yiminghuang8210
    @yiminghuang8210 Жыл бұрын

    Always GT3!! I just got my new 992 GT3 last Sunday and was very happy to own the latest generation of Porsche flat six 4.0L NA engine...hope to enjoy high rev sound after 1500 km engine run in..

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    congratulations and welcome to the party !

  • @algt4521
    @algt4521 Жыл бұрын

    Perfect video. I'm trading my gt3 for the gts.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice 👍

  • @smiles1151
    @smiles1151 Жыл бұрын

    If only they used the same 4.0 liter NA engine in the Boxster GTS, Spyder, GT4. Shame.

  • @John-we7jx
    @John-we7jx Жыл бұрын

    In brief, we need one of both!

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    correct

  • @TuvingtonD
    @TuvingtonD Жыл бұрын

    Having a new 4 GTS, I can say that what makes it a better daily drive is the torque, more relaxed steering, and the helper springs which give excellent body control at high speeds. Downsides include numerous rattles and buzzes from the interior that can’t really be pinpointed and fixed.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    sorry to hear of those rattles and buzzes

  • @911aircooled5
    @911aircooled5 Жыл бұрын

    Well put together and narrated Roger, well done! For me it comes down to 2 things. Do you really need 4 seats? And do you want a 911 engine turbo engine or a Race Breed NA engine? It was a no brainer for me....3 all the way. But I do understand if you want 4 seats. I'd change the spoiler on it though, to a duck tail or even the GT3 lower lip (smaller ducktail). Cheers

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks, good points made here

  • @michaelsalter2473
    @michaelsalter2473 Жыл бұрын

    Great review. So big question is 2 or 4wd? Also do you think GTS is better for a daily driver that gets 4 or 5 track days a year?

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Michael, Personally I'd always take 2wd. The GTS a near perfect daily driver and is also very capable on track.

  • @deepakchanrai5842
    @deepakchanrai5842 Жыл бұрын

    Do you recommend going for the rear wheel steering and 10 mm lowered suspension? Does the latter greatly impact the ride compliancy?

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Deepak, 10mm lowered suspension is hard to detect in real life so I'd have little worry there, the rear wheel steer is excellent and worth having in my opinion - Roger

  • @alb3096
    @alb309612 күн бұрын

    In tbdd ex real world the higher torque available sooner makes a huge difference in favor of the gts. Sometimes I think the gt3 could be turbocharged with shorter gear ratio then it will burn anything

  • @gordonknipe4677
    @gordonknipe46779 ай бұрын

    I have a GTS coupe coming in in late October. Ordered with Normal PASM. Don't need an overly stiff ride in normal mode. Did I do the right thing?

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    9 ай бұрын

    Hi Gordon, did you mean PASM vs PDCC? you have to buy rear steering to get PDCC so it gets expensive and in the real world only improves things by a small amount, real wheel steer is worth going for in my opinion, that said there isn't really a wrong set up here just slight variations of an excellent theme- Roger

  • @LifeOfToyz
    @LifeOfToyz Жыл бұрын

    I'm new to the Porsche family; I just picked up a '23 Cayenne GTS last November. It's exceptional. But I really want a new 911 before they go electric/hybrid, so I put a deposit to be on the waitlist for the next generation 992.2 GTS. It will give me a few years to live with the Cayenne before I trade it in. Likely going with the Coupe, RWD, PDK, Black Jet Metallic.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    it'll likely be well worth the wait.

  • @danmel3978
    @danmel39785 ай бұрын

    gts has a newer 8 speed pdk and is more torquey wouldnt be surprised if its a bit faster too. I think most people that want a gt3 actually want a gts and dont know it

  • @MrOliverDXB
    @MrOliverDXB Жыл бұрын

    Great review and compelling arguments. The 992.2 4GTS is on my shopping list.

  • @JC-qf1jd

    @JC-qf1jd

    Жыл бұрын

    have you seen the images of the test drives - i think its got a centred exhaust. Im also looking forward to seeing this.

  • @mort6913
    @mort6913 Жыл бұрын

    Your guest presenter is refreshingly honest :-)

  • @martinboulden4388
    @martinboulden4388 Жыл бұрын

    I would take the GTS so I didn’t have to kneel down and beg to a OPC Salesman ! Great video Mr B.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    good point Martin

  • @thezanzibarbarian5729
    @thezanzibarbarian5729 Жыл бұрын

    The *_911 GTS...._* _Mmmmmmmm...._ *Very, very nice.* However. I wasn't expecting to see Tracy Island with this Thunderbirds themed video, but I'd have thought the _Blonde Stalker_ would have made a *Jilly Island* out of loo rolls, carboard boxes and sticky backed tape! 🤔😶😁 So, so dissappointed Mr. B. 8-((... From what I've read and watched about the GTS for the last 6 or more months, it certainly seems to hit the spot. Not too powerful and not to average either for a 911. If there ever was an _"average"_ 911? Great video again Mr. B. And still Your No1 Stalker ;-))...

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Jilly’s obsession with Mr Tracy finally made it into a video, next up will be her full size model of thunderbird one! Nice you stopped by again TZ keep stalking :-)

  • @thezanzibarbarian5729

    @thezanzibarbarian5729

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RogerBaileyOnCars I'm going to hold you to this. Your next video title, "Jilly's full size model of Thunderbird One" ;-))...

  • @yyz4165
    @yyz4165 Жыл бұрын

    Drop a detuned GT3 NA engine in the GTS’ softer platform and that’s the sweet spot IMO. GTS too similar to the S version

  • @trentcardwell8620

    @trentcardwell8620

    Жыл бұрын

    GT3 Touring? Duh

  • @yyz4165

    @yyz4165

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trentcardwell8620 Duh, cheese and chalk my guy. GT3 platform a long way from a commuter car

  • @touayaaj84

    @touayaaj84

    Жыл бұрын

    I still think the S is the best spot. A tune in the S will make the same power as a gts. Save that money

  • @rogeritt88

    @rogeritt88

    Жыл бұрын

    I personally have a GTS and for those who say its the same as the C S. Well clearly they either have never pushed both or have never driven one. The 0-100 sprint against the GT3 is very interesting.

  • @MrMaggelan

    @MrMaggelan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rogeritt88 i saw a direct comparison here on KZread and there was no big difference. With the fact that the mechanical components of the engine are absolute the same, I would choose a Carrera S.

  • @stevenhornreich9980
    @stevenhornreich9980 Жыл бұрын

    Dear Roger , please comment on the comparison between a 2022 718 GTS 4.0 ( naturally aspirated , love the sound ) cab that I now own vs the 2023 992 GTS Cab with rear wheel steering , which would choose ? My 911 comes in at end of Oct 22 , I came up on the list a bit to my surprise early July . Both cars are made to my order White with red tops & Bordeaux red interiors, pdks , Great videos . By the way I’ve driven a few GT 3 ‘s including track laps in a 2019 Gt3 RS ( loved it ) , my GTS is at MSRP . Thanks Doc Steve

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Steve, while the 718GTS4.0 is a sensational sports car, personally I'd take the 992GTS for its more modern appointments, that said there isn't a wrong choice ! - Roger

  • @stevenhornreich9980

    @stevenhornreich9980

    Жыл бұрын

    Roger , thank you for the reply . Keep up the great reviews 👍🏻Steve

  • @kmac5849
    @kmac5849 Жыл бұрын

    I think this customer history, allocation thing is unique to British dealerships,as a 992 GT3 fanboy I scour the internet for reviews and it doesn’t seem to be the case overseas🤔

  • @Saji310
    @Saji310 Жыл бұрын

    Would had been funny to see the reaction of your grandson in the GTS (boring, let's go back to the GT3 😉). Interesting video, but to me both cars doesn't really compare to eachother, because the purpose for both is different. The one is basically a race car (even the 992 touring as many complain) that you buy for weekend fun, while the other is more aimed to be a fast daily driver. I don't think anyone would take the GTS for track driving, if he had the chance to get a GT3 instead. So when you look at it from the purpose perspective, the comparison between GTS and Turbo/Turbo S might be better, since they also are meant to be daily drivers.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Good points here thanks

  • @DaveCrenshaw
    @DaveCrenshaw Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Roger. How does the cabin noise of the GTS compare to the next step down, like a 4S? I've read rumors that it's louder, but can't compare where I live.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    GTS & 4S cabin sound levels are indistinguishable, the GTS makes more induction noise once you really get on it

  • @DaveCrenshaw

    @DaveCrenshaw

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RogerBaileyOnCars Much appreciated. Love your channel.

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh Жыл бұрын

    The 718 GTS 4.0 seems the most desireable as far as a high performance everyday useable Porsches go. What it has ahead of the 992 GTS is the NA engine, which I don't need to explain, and the more compact dimensions, which makes it much more suited for regular (back) roads.

  • @mrlotusmic

    @mrlotusmic

    Жыл бұрын

    After driving one for over a year I think you might be correct. It does everything that you need if your not intending to track.

  • @saljaved9674
    @saljaved9674 Жыл бұрын

    I would be more inclined to go for a 7 speed manual? PDK is quicker of the mark but wouldn't manual still be more engaging 🤔

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Manual vs PDK I don’t believe there’s a wrong choice

  • @LifeOfToyz

    @LifeOfToyz

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm facing this choice. I've driven stick my entire life and I love the engagement, but the PDK is so precise. And I think I'm done using my left leg so much in a daily. I'm ready to relax while I'm driving "spirited".

  • @jameswillard1
    @jameswillard1 Жыл бұрын

    I just had the opportunity to drive these 2 back to back and without having the time to watch this video yet I can say with absolute certainty that they are nothing alike and it’s almost amazing that they start off from the same basic platform. The GT3 while being noticeably less torque sounds night and day better, the gearbox of the GT3 was also far superior to the much more vague 7-spd in the GTS but the biggest difference is undoubtedly in the steering response and precision of the GT3 as well as the suspension seems so much more dialed in without a huge detriment to the ride. It felt like the GTS rode higher and was actually more crashy over bumps which was very surprising to me because it didn’t feel a lot more dailyable or livable but moral of the story is anyone that says the GTS is a slightly less GT3 is a complete idiot (and I’ve read quite a few reviews/watched videos saying such things). The GTS is a glorified Carrera S which is what I drive, GT3 is a totally different car, it literally blew me away and I now understand why people pay ridiculous premiums for them.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this, 👍🏼

  • @bentleygucci

    @bentleygucci

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a 991.2 manual GT3 and a manual 992 GTS on order. Your comparison (opinion) of the GTS vs S is way off. Do more research of these trims before making a totally incorrect comment.

  • @jameswillard1

    @jameswillard1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bentleygucci I’ve done plenty of research and even better have driven both of them. I can see that my opinion isn’t sitting well with you, probably because you have one on order and are expecting it to be more than it is, but I assure you I know what I’m talking about and have probably have even more experience with Porsche 911’s than you do.

  • @bentleygucci

    @bentleygucci

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jameswillard1 Haha!! LMAO!! You’re nothing more than a completely clueless wannabe that has no earthly idea what you are talking about. And no - your comment is based only on YOUR opinion and not the facts.

  • @jameswillard1

    @jameswillard1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bentleygucci wannabe huh? 🤔 Wonder who the “wannabe” is based on the fact that you have “Bentley” and “Gucci” in your name ….two of the most “wannabe” brands….and the fact that your allocation is for a “wannabe GT3” because your Porsche dealer clearly didn’t think you were worthy of a 992 GT3 slot, so they gave you a 992 GTS instead

  • @johnnyg8206
    @johnnyg8206 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Roger. I am thinking about getting a GTS Cab by trading in my AMG GTR. Do you think that I will feel a short of performance with GTS?

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    A bit probably, GTS is more civilised than a GTR & any small short fall in acceleration is made up by the GTS being able to put it down better, GTS a more accurate steer.

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 Жыл бұрын

    Just never order centre lock wheels, I had puncture last year, had to be recovered to Porsche, it took 8 hours...for a simple nail in tyre

  • @russellg3906

    @russellg3906

    Жыл бұрын

    Carry a tyre repair kit about £15 and always carry a tyre inflater. Very rarely will you get a blowout. So just over infltate the tyre and top up when pressure gets a bit low. Never changed a wheel in 30 years. Always got home with a puncture.

  • @Superbustr
    @Superbustr9 ай бұрын

    The GT3 is the it car of today. But the GTS will be the it car of the future. I predict that there is going to be a big change in the car world. We are going to go from the highest possible performance, highest possible speed, and any/all features that make a car more racecar like... to a market that wants better interior design, more comfortable ride, better fuel economy, etc which is the GTS.

  • @dutchchiro
    @dutchchiro Жыл бұрын

    Is it worth upgrading from a rwd 991.2 gts with rws to the 992 s or 992gts?

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    its worth taking a test drive of the 992's, they are quite different in feel to the 991.2

  • @davidbee9563
    @davidbee9563 Жыл бұрын

    What about the Cayman GTS? It is lighter and comes with the 4 litre NA engine. So you can use more of the performance more of the time and has some of the sound of a GT3/4. If you were to use the extra performance of the GTS over the standard S you would lose your licence anywhere except the autobahn.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars

    @RogerBaileyOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    great car the 718 four litre, good point

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