Have to disagree with the reviewer, we aren’t being pushed towards plug ins or fully electric. Millions of drivers don’t have the option of a driveway or somewhere to charge their vehicle. Also the current prices of charging plus the higher purchase costs have nullified the push for EV. A frugal hybrid which is fun to drive and quick is actually a perfect option right about now. I ordered one after a test drive

@m.r.2718

Жыл бұрын

Agree. A non-plug-in hybrid like this would be perfect to bridge the gap for the actual revolution and hopefully more affordable EV cars in 5-7 years or so.

@randyrandier2664

11 ай бұрын

All these so called Car Journalists are obsessed with cars that have to have the most complex drivers dash and pure EV plug in power trains to name but a few. The more over complex an item is, the more likely they will go wrong and cost a fortune to fix. Honda, the organisation as a whole, are great engineers and they refine their products over time with each generation, unlike the Germans who have to force the latest innovation in their products whether you like it or not, and yes, the customers are the beta testers.

@vladimirv3255

5 ай бұрын

I completely agree with you. I recently bought Honda Civic ehev sport white and I’m happy with it

@scottscottydog

13 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@vladimirv3255 hi mate, are you still happy with your Honda civic, putting the feelers out for myself. Any probs?

I brought the advance and love the car, best hatchback on market. Car is fully loaded and looks and drive great. If your not interested in charging your car and waiting around to charge up then you can't go wrong with the new civic. Take one for a test drive and see for yourself.

It's very vague review which gives impression that this hybrid is as any other, eg. Toyota. This is so untrue. Powertrain system is based on same idea as in eg. Jazz, but it's more powerful one and newly developed. This car has no gearbox in any shape. Gears are simulated and extra faked in SPORT mode by special unit which can't be turned off (but can be disconnected by 10min DIY). "Gears" in this car is a modulation of the current which powers electric motor. It's basically an electric car, which most of the time is driven by quite powerful electric motor (184HP/315Nm). Only at specific scenarios (calm, steady ride at 70-150Km/h) system can switch to direct drive by petrol engine (through simple clutch, aka. 6th gear). Any acceleration, hill etc and you back to hybrid mode where electric motor powers wheels and petrol engine just powers generator and battery. In case of any sudden need for extra power system will use generator (so also petrol engine) + stored battery power. This car never uses both engines at the same time to drive wheels! It's fundamentally different system to Toyota's. Whole idea is based on fact that petrol engine is mostly disconnected from wheels and can operate at optimal conditions close to maximum engine efficiency (2-3K RPM). Any surplus of energy is stored in battery for later use. This is key secret of this drive system. Typical petrol car operates at relatively low efficiency which changes through the drive and about never reaches optimal value. Here petrol engine, is most of the time, close to its optimal working point, so petrol usage is relatively low (recuperated energy helps further). System is so clever, that when you drive steadily on petrol engine directly and battery gets full, it will switch petrol engine off and instead of wasting new energy it will drive purely from energy stored in battery (even if we drive eg. 120Km/h). Once battery discharges (not close to 0 , but to safe value to prolong its life) petrol engine turns itself on and whole cycle repeats. Petrol engine never slows or speeds too much as this would mean leaving optimal working condition (and burning even 2x more fuel). Instead we either store extra energy in battery or take it from battery (surplus of energy stored earlier or from recuperation). Plain simple at the end. Even recuperation works efficiently as wheels are connected directly with powerful electric motor (no gearbox). Extra good news is that petrol engine is never stressed too much, but operates steadily around its optimal conditions. Thanks to all of this Honda offers warranty up to 300K km as there is not much to break (electric motors are rather reliable parts). We will see how it translates to real life. Issue with noise may be at least a bit related to fact that Honda comes with Michelin Pilot Sport tires, which are great for grip, but also bit noisy.

@johanmarnfeldt5262

Жыл бұрын

Is this also how Nissan e-Power works?

@SOMEONE-ME

Жыл бұрын

@@johanmarnfeldt5262 Very similar, just bit further refined. It was Honda who invented it many years ago ( I think year after Toyota introduced theirs).

@johanmarnfeldt5262

Жыл бұрын

@@SOMEONE-ME Which hybrid system do you think is the best, Honda's or Nissan's?

@SOMEONE-ME

Жыл бұрын

@@johanmarnfeldt5262 Hard to say as it’s down to quality of components. Honda’s system is more refined and even further pushes efficiency thanks to extra mode (direct wheels power through petrol engine). Honda’s petrol engine in Cicvic is covered by 5 years/300K km warranty ( very generous), so they must feel confident.

@johanmarnfeldt5262

Жыл бұрын

@@SOMEONE-ME Is the new CR-V using the same powertrain as in this Civic?

This is the best looking civic i´ve seen so far. Looks great

@carbuyer

Жыл бұрын

And the Type R looks even hotter!

@kofib3

Жыл бұрын

@@carbuyer was about to say that.. 👍🏽

Well I love my new civic. The guy hasn't quite got that this is the only engine you need. It is as economical as the previous 1.0turbo . Has the torque of the diesel and the performance of the 1.5turbo!. It's leading the way for how future cars will be.

OMG, why would anyone not want a Civic hybrid?! this car will not get left behind mate. Petrol will be around beyond 2030, trust me!

@MrVroom1

Жыл бұрын

Because it’s not a Golf or something German. If it isn’t German then no matter how up to date the tech is, how high the quality is (In most instances over the past several years, better than German) it’ll always play second fiddle because badge over substance in the UK.

@burso83

Жыл бұрын

@@MrVroom1 read again. I've said why would anyone not want a Civic with a hybrid engine, in response to the reviewer and their comment about the lack of engine choice.

@MrVroom1

Жыл бұрын

@@burso83 I read and understood what you said the first time. What I’m saying is they wouldn’t take issue with the lack of engine choice if that’s what a German equivalent offered.

@burso83

Жыл бұрын

@@MrVroom1 understand, so people would buy a German car with a hybrid engine over a Japanese car with a hybrid engine. That's crazy!

@MrVroom1

Жыл бұрын

@@burso83 in the UK yes. If it has a German badge on it, people will gravitate to towards it no matter how crap it is in base spec or how unreliable it is. They’re huge badge snobs over here and most people wouldn’t buy a car from another brand with proper substance even if it was better than the German brands.

To me it beats the latest Golf by a mile and being a hybrid rather than going full electric will to many buyers be a far better option... i really like it..

I prefer the styling of this MK11, to the previous MK10. It makes sense to buy a hybrid car from Honda, the way things are with fuel prices and rocketing energy costs. I would definitely consider buying this car.

Good explanation of how the Honda Civic hybrid works. I have test driven the car It drives more like an electric car most of the time Certainly has plenty of power when needed. Matt Watson from Carwow achieved sub 7 seconds 0 to 60 mph times. The car comes with many extras that VW and Audi charges extra for. Ordered mine from local Honda dealer. Delivery time expected May 2023 !

@Jordan-ql8pv

Жыл бұрын

Good choice. You are going to love it. Too bad here in Canada we do not get the hybrid version. The 180HP option for us is the 1.5 Turbo. Shame really.

@crazyforiegner2

Жыл бұрын

@@Jordan-ql8pv Shame ? I'd way rather have the 1.5 turbo. It comes in a manual so will be more fun to drive, less heavy and so better handling and better fuel economy on the highway.

@greymark420

Жыл бұрын

German manufactures offering options, when they should be standard. Surely not.😁😁

It’s a shame in this review carbuyer failed to make reference that the Mk 10 (previous model) launched in 2017 didn’t have magic seats either, so this model not having it isn’t new. The reason for it not having them is due to it having multi-link suspension that uses greater space over torsion beam that the Mk 8 and 9 had, as well as the Jazz and HRV. Multi link typically gives it a better ride and handling. So carbuyer, you say you don’t love it. My question is what would? I think it’s better then the golf in every aspect - but my feeling is you’d still recommend the golf over this.

@carbuyer

Жыл бұрын

Not true. We highlighted a number of areas (interior layout, boot space) where we prefer the Civic to the Golf...

@richardwilson2447

Жыл бұрын

@@carbuyer Thank you for your response, You mentioned that the dials are very much more standard then the VW golf’s but you also did not point out that you can get a much more configurable digital dash on the Advance trim. Just wondered if you could be explicit as to why you only “like” the car rather then “love” the car? Is it the styling or the fact it’s limited choices in engine spec and options?

@randyrandier2664

11 ай бұрын

@@richardwilson2447 These so called Motor Journalists are all obsessed with the German brands as if they are on their pay roll. Have a look at the type that drives VW Golfs, Audi A3 and BMWs who would never get behind the wheel of a Honda and think they are for their grand dads.....says a lot about them.

A lot of other channels have rated this car of the year.

No surprise here. A bit pricey though. As 2030 approaches I think more car makers with go hybrid which gives them another 5 years worth of sales and development. I am waiting for Skoda to do the same. However which cars are actually available without huge wait times.

We didn't get a civic hybrid here in the states. Just a 2.0 & 1.5T. they are selling like mad.

I like it, not as wacky looking as previous gen, would seriously consider one, perhaps I’m in the minority but not everyone wants electric until we have to

@carbuyer

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! And we get that. If you're not ready for EV, then the hybrid Civic is a fantastic option.

Really like the car and great review Looks a lot like the new Astra from the front

Great car, arguably even class prominent, though also rather expensive one, starts at 29890€, which is e.g. price of a i30 Fastback in absolute full specs.

It's really hard to fault. Interested to see how many decades you'll need to wait to get one delivered

@richardwells1709

Жыл бұрын

Ordered mine in November Just been advised the latest delivery to dealership will be July this year. That is 8 months 😢

Are we getting the tourer still? Love the range Topping blue but need a decent boot for the dogs.

@carbuyer

Жыл бұрын

No estate version planned for this generation of Honda Civic, unfortunately.

@stuartcraigon2003

Жыл бұрын

@@carbuyer shame that.

@baratrion

Жыл бұрын

Bonkers

I want a Petrol engine Civic without the hybrid, less future problems to deal with when the hybrid system gives out.

@SOMEONE-ME

Жыл бұрын

You are most likely wrong. If anything this system will be longer lasting as petrol engine works in optimal condition and it's never really stressed there. On top you have no gearbox at all and electric motors are very reliable parts. There is a reason why Honda gives up to 300K km free warranty. Small battery may be biggest weak point, but for the first 10 years you have nothing to worry about.

Wish this was available in the states

Guys, this is the best sincere review I've ever seen ever. Respect from my heart and a Happy New Year.

One year on are we any closer to a fully electric world ? DONT THINK SO

I'm really glad you put the Civic price list on display (02:26) So many current ICE drivers slate the "extortionate price of EVs" as a reason why they won't be swapping to greener motoring - yet an MG4, a perfectly adequate sized family EV is £28,500 in 281 mile long-range format or, if you need even more boot space, the 250 mile, MG5 estate is only about £500 more than your recommended Civic Sport model.

@Sto79Be

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it’s MG. That’s not badge snobbery, they’re good bargain cars, but you are compromising with them compared to other brands.

Look at the black border of the window and the pillar when he's talking. Wobbly finish...😵‍💫

Didnt anyone tell him the engine charges the batteries

Well done Posche and thanks you for saving the engine. EV is not the way forward yet. Thank you Honda Hybrid 100 percent until this EV nonsense is sorted out. Great looking car. Let's face it 60k to 100k is normal pricing for a car you can't charge quickly at will that cant drive more than 250 miles without issues in charging??

Is this the 2023 honda civic

Finally a car maker not trying to shove ev s#it in our faces. Fantastic motor👍well done Honda

Hybrid only is NOT a negative point! The performance vs economy is excellent.

@carbuyer

Жыл бұрын

It's more the lack of choice - and that there is no fully-electric version as yet...

@greymark420

Жыл бұрын

@@carbuyer All the better for not having a electric version, with our woefully inadequate electric infrastructure.

@s4nder86

Жыл бұрын

Higher price, more complexity and a degrading battery aren't what everyone is looking for.

@greymark420

Жыл бұрын

@@s4nder86 Battery is covered for 90000 miles, I see no problem with that. By that time will probably replace the vehicle.

After watching this review and the Astra video, I’m convinced this guy has absolutely no idea. Totally out of touch. In a world of Nicola Hume, Rory Reid, Mat Watson and Chris Harris, this just isn’t worth watching

@carbuyer

Жыл бұрын

We always appreciate constructive feedback, but could you be a little more specific please?

@jasonbernard1277

Жыл бұрын

@@carbuyer a hybrid won’t become obsolete in the next few years. Comparing this to an Octavia is a bit ridiculous if one is a small-medium hatch and one is a medium sedan. Criticising the Astra for not being an SUV or not having a great 0-60 time when it’s a family hatch. They’re just criticisms for the sake of it, with no real validity. It’s just frustrating to see him dump on cars that don’t deserve such hyperbolic and far-fetched criticism. It feels like he can’t cope if he’s not in an SUV, like he doesn’t recognise there are other types of vehicles that might appeal to people. Now he just annoys me haha

@haveaseatplease

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonbernard1277 This reviewer didn't do his homework. Maybe he wasn't interested in the car or maybe he is just a lazy bugger who can't be bothered to inform himself before doing the review and spewing a diarrhea of nonsensical comments.

ANY petrol or hybrid powered automobile someone buys in 2022 and beyond will have awful resale value in 10 years time. No matter how high the quality of build and engineering at the time of purchase. That would be like someone buying a horse and carriage in 1920 and trying to recoup their expenditure selling it ten years later. Transportation technology would have moved on

@s4nder86

Жыл бұрын

Nope, cars won't be fully electric any time soon. The infrastructure doesn't exist and neither do raw materials for all those batteries.

Where’s the fully electric, this will age very quickly IMO.

@haveaseatplease

Жыл бұрын

Honda e:NS1 only for the China market.

Boring... just not quite as ugly as the previous gen. Honda are on a slow death as a car company.

@greymark420

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@gortys3929

Жыл бұрын

In Europe probably. But it's only 5% of their car business. USA and Asia are Honda primary markets.