New vs old... Which is better? VOTE BELOW!

@carwow

Жыл бұрын

VOTE: New Type R!

@carwow

Жыл бұрын

VOTE: Old Type R!

@Smzxe

Жыл бұрын

New one Rimac Nevera Vs V10 F1 Vs 22 Moto GP Vs Kawasaki H2R Modern V6 F1 car Vs Rimac Nevera will be cool Bring some 1600 HP GTR too

@squintus8140

Жыл бұрын

@@carwow review the NEW WRX

@M.A.Q..

Жыл бұрын

Idk ill go for the old one p.s same for the accord

My dad was one of the quality engineers on the team that designed the seats in both cars (they are basically identical underneath the upholstery) and he is almost (i stress almost) solely responsible for the way they feel to sit in. He died in early 2020 so he isn't around to hear how much people love his work. So thanks Matt for the compliment. Also, if there are any engineers out there with a first edition iso 9000 standards book. Go look in the contributers section for a dude called Williams. Same dude. Also fun fact: the seats in the type r are cheaper to make than the seats in the next model down.

@spinkygr

Жыл бұрын

Rip my friend, my condolences to you and your family

@M3PH11

Жыл бұрын

@@spinkygr it was is own fault. he got covid, didn't know it and then wouldn't go to the doctor. "it's just a chest infection" he said. 5 days in he went to walk up the stairs in his house, got 3 or 4 up and passed out, fell backwards and snapped his neck in the fall. if the stubborn bastard has listened to us and gone to the doc he would probably still be here. Such is life.

@julencin2000

Жыл бұрын

@@M3PH11 sad to read this, my condolescences. But cheers To your dad, he is behind such a good design, remembered by many car lovers like me.

@M3PH11

Жыл бұрын

@@julencin2000 best part is, if was here he wouldn't want to take the credit. That was his other greatest quality. Humble to a fault.

@DrDrops420

Жыл бұрын

@@M3PH11 very sad to read it.. i hope you will be alright, please take care

I love the previous generation design. Simply one of the best looking hatchbacks ever

@grandtheftgameryt

Жыл бұрын

It’s not my favourite hatch but I have to give credit it looks incredible and super sporty. Very nice design for sure.

@wayward03

Жыл бұрын

Tell me you need a donation for lasik without telling me you need money for eye surgery....

@RCM701

Жыл бұрын

@@wayward03 Your comment makes you looks like you are a kid other then a grown fat man

@muhammadosama127

Жыл бұрын

@@wayward03 haha agree to disagree mate. The civic x type r is one of those hatchbacks that when it is parked on the road everyone stops by to look at it. It looks fast even when it is standing still. Civic x and Mazda 3, best looking hatchbacks in my opinion

@muhammadosama127

Жыл бұрын

@@grandtheftgameryt it has everything a car guy wants and needs in a car

I always liked the big spoilers and aggressive look, hot hatches are meant to look a bit out there, like you would see in the car mags in the 90's.

@sandersson2813

Жыл бұрын

Spoilers are laughable.

@BlueCivid

4 ай бұрын

Idk about ek9 I feel like the 11th gen is a modernized version lol

I'm so glad the new one doesn't make my eyes bleed when I look at it.

People always start loving the old design once they see the new one

@scuckplexity

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty much the cycle until a year or two. Same goes for the same mfs that started liking the fish GT86 over the GR86 for some reason

@daftcow706

Жыл бұрын

the old one looks like a hotwheels car

@fara-j9693

Жыл бұрын

Both good but dont have money for either

@mediocreman2

Жыл бұрын

Not me. Old one still looks like crap

@greg882

Жыл бұрын

Nope. New one looks much better and less mindlessly ridiculous

I like the older one idk, I've always liked the design of it, even have a hotwheels version in the same spec as in the vid

@gigachad6162

Жыл бұрын

imagine liking fake vents over functional ones

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@gigachad6162 1995 Civic 3 Door says hi.

@svgaming2716

Жыл бұрын

@@gigachad6162 its an opinion, you may like the new one but i have always loved the old one, and btw i don't care about fake vents

@rayhan4502

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 Just as bad as that

@Plaganomica

Жыл бұрын

@@gigachad6162 Theres loads of functional vents too, plenty other cars use fake vents and trims.

Compared to all the drag race videos you upload, this was a welcome change back to a proper car review, and I have to say, you are incredibly good at it. This is one of the best car reviews I have _ever_ seen!

This channel is never boring. There are always new exciting videos.

Mostly people love aggressive design, hence the old one is getting more love in the comments. But I prefer the more streamline design of the new one it looks more smooth like most modern cars.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Spoon cars are equally aggressive as 2023 Civic Type R.

@203tron

Жыл бұрын

I like agressive design, but I hate how many fake features it has so I preffer the new one

@calumwhite7760

Жыл бұрын

The new one really feels like a spiritual successor to the integra dc5 lol

@Incendia

Жыл бұрын

@@calumwhite7760 DC5 owner here. Please, don't compare the DC5 with that Kia rip-off. The DC5 design is miles better.

@rolfstuh

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the new nearly looks as booring as most modern car.sorry but soon, every car looks the same.. Just booring

In person, the older one looks so much better and aggressive.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Spoon Civic Type R also. Despite only 250bhp max

@geminfinity1674

Жыл бұрын

You trippin the old type r ugly as fuck with that ugly ass rear fake vents a lot of fake vents. The new type r is cleaned up and looks so much cleaner. You got some weird taste

@Red-ev8ls

Жыл бұрын

Maybe for boy racers I always prefer the old simplistic looks of type r I don’t wanna my civic to look like a kid took it to los santos customs and went crazy on it

@geminfinity1674

Жыл бұрын

@@Red-ev8ls I think you got your cars switched that’s exactly what the fk8 is a los santos custom shit box

@theweeknd2725

Жыл бұрын

@@Red-ev8ls yeah but it looks FREAKING SICK! like stands out like a supercar on a road almost 🔥 It actually looks awesome ngl

I have the FK8 in America and we have the cup holders in the backseat, weird they weren’t included in the Euro spec model. Also, Ive had the car for a coup of years and I still love this car. Boy racer… for sure… but I honestly like that it stands out from everything else. Currently working on replacing the fake CF trim with real CF. Both are great cars, but I can’t justify the price of the FL5.

@jankisty9704

Жыл бұрын

In Europe we have diff things in FK7 and FK8 ... I think in continental Europe were cupholders. Euro spec model was also much stronger some functions extra. Also I know that steering wheel in FK7 was different, depends when you buy the car. Some cars has touch volume buttons and some has only up and down :D ... I also asked Honda why.. They didn't know.

I don't know much about cars but I do enjoy watching and learning about it cheers mate

Never had an issue with the FK8 design, still think it looks great but that FL5 really does look like a step up. Exterior and interior. Would love to take either one on a twisty bit of road

@TriMarko

Жыл бұрын

FK8 has to be one of the most overstyled cars in history. Looks like it was designed by a 14 year old after watching fast and furious

@darthgroot9130

Жыл бұрын

@TriMarko As a former 14 yr old, i disagree with your comment. Looks like a 14 yr old on crack and heroin who just watched fast and furious designed it

@Incendia

Жыл бұрын

If by step-up you mean it looks like a Kia shell with a BMW interior... sure. Boring works for some people I guess.

@wanglee21

Жыл бұрын

Looks more sophisticated like German cars. The FK8 looked in the Fast and Furious tuner years in early 2000's

@theweeknd2725

Жыл бұрын

@@Incendia FK8 Type-R was definitely the Truest of the Type-R🔥🔥

Top review Mat. Great to see how your opinions have become more nuanced and informative over the years. Agree with you here for sure. The price diff isn't justified.

Love the Belgian Malinois reference. Accurate description and I love them

The review I was waiting for

As soon as Carwow uploads it makes my day .

@alstound

Жыл бұрын

Perfect if they change the countdown voice, worst British accent ever!

@mrew42

Жыл бұрын

@@alstound @rse

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@alstound agree. 😂

@copperkeyracing6167

Жыл бұрын

Translation: As soon as carwow uploads, I blow my load

Was behind the new one yesterday. It's enormous!!

I have an fk8, and I love it. I thought about trading it in for an acura type s but I'm really not sure until it comes out. Love the video, man!

The perfect R for me would be the FL5 with a sprinkling of the FK8’s crazy styling. FL5 has the nicer cabin, better user interface, without sacrificing much user ability, but looks way too plain for my liking. By the way, I heard and read the FL5 will be built in smaller numbers, which explains the price.

@Car3stash

Жыл бұрын

so the FK2 is the answer :))

@xxs774

Жыл бұрын

You want fk8 sprinkling? Put some cheesy red pin stripes on your rims and fake vents everywhere you poser.

@theweeknd2725

Жыл бұрын

@@Car3stash No not the pregnant civic type r I am sorry 🤣 FK8 is so much more Streamlined, aerodynamic and Race orientated looking 🏁

@fk8chick893

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone I agree with. Wish they would of kept the 10th gens crazy boy racer style and upgraded the other things .

I love the " Type R " configuration 🇯🇵🔥

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

And also has double the amount of bhp than the 2010s Civic.

I just can't wait till I get mine. I have to wait until 2025 !!!!! For my Fl5 ... I got videos in the mean while lol. Good job mate.

Excellent video Mat!

We upgraded the fronts on our FK8 to Michelin ps4's and the improvement in grip was huge so I'm not surprised you managed to launch the Fl5 a bit better.

@jankisty9704

Жыл бұрын

Gear ratio and turbo is also changed.

I love the previous generation design. The fact that it's overdesigned and overly agressive and race-y just makes it feel like a true Type R to me. Edit: I started a war with this comment, proceed with caution.

@darrensmall1133

Жыл бұрын

Me 2. You’re meant to know it’s type R without seeing the badge

@harrisr1018

Жыл бұрын

Type Rs have always been simple. Ep3, ek9 etc.

@idrisahmed2659

Жыл бұрын

Same here I love the previous gen design ... And the current one too .... They both have their own individual personality and that's completely ok

@mariajustina7866

Жыл бұрын

@@harrisr1018 fk2 was agressive...

@hamdanali2036

Жыл бұрын

a true type R? bro look at the generations before and tell me how the fuck the Fk8 looked like a true one. it looked like a kids car 💀

Such good cars. Would love to experience one of these and if had the chance definitely buy one and use it as a daily. Strong, reliable, 5 seater and spacious. Talk about a perfect car.

After years of driving, fixing and racing cars, the only kind of car I drive is a Honda Civic. That says alot. I've been in so many cars, but Honda's, especially the Civic, are it for me. Great video.

One thing to remember is fk8 has 245s and fl5 has 265s as tires. I know that makes a difference for sure. I wonder what the results would be if they were both on similar sizes

The reason why i went from my FK8 to the Civic E HEV, yes the FL5 is better ( Especially the interior ) but not £13000 better, ridiculous increase. Very impressed with the E HEV, good performance, comfortable, good handling and steering. The Advance model, which i am buying is nicely equipped. Not forgetting between 55-60 mpg.

@championxxlNL

Жыл бұрын

I mean that new civic is definitely one of the best cars that have come out in the past year imo. And it isn't alot slower to 100kph than the type r aswell, every reviewer seems to do around 6.8 to 7 secs which is not bad at all

@greymark420

Жыл бұрын

@@championxxlNL Exactly, at carwow they did a 0-60 in 6.7.

@theweeknd2725

Жыл бұрын

@@greymark420 that is just MENTAL for a normal civic, I have the MK10 Civic 1.0L VTEC Turbo which is a great car, also handles really well & drives snappy with the turbocharged 1.0 engine producing probably the most hp you can get out of a 1.0 with good economic numbers. And it also looks great ngl, especially in night time the Red shines so well, almost makes it look like the FK8 type r as I have gotten the praises for it before 😅🤣🔥

@greymark420

Жыл бұрын

@@theweeknd2725 Yes it's a crazy price increase. The E HEV that i am buying will be my sixth Civic. Civics have always been reliable and sporty to drive, looking forward to the Hybrid.

I just bought an EP3 Type R and I love it!! Would love to see the new Type R vs the EP3 round a track maybe?

I had just been wondering why I hadn't received any notifications from your channel and this pops up on my feed 😊

Muito bom, conteúdo de primeira qualidade.🇧🇷

@BrunoSouza-jl5dh

Жыл бұрын

Brasil

The previous generation looks savage and unique, whereas the new one is more car ish and simple looking. It took me a while to get used to the looks of the FK8 though! Both are super fun to drive and reliable boy racers for reasonable money.

@davidoconnor3201

Жыл бұрын

50 grand is not reasonable, It's absolutely outrageous. It should be 30 at the most.

@cyanofelis

Жыл бұрын

What's a 'boy racer'?

@hughjass5583

11 ай бұрын

@@davidoconnor3201 nah fr who is paying 50k for a regular degular looking civic with a spoiler on it

Good to see actual journalism again!

New one is a massive improvement. No overengineering or faking anything. Every vent is real and the body looks much more put together. Unlike the old one, Honda really went all out with their engineers to REALLY make sure the new one was going to blow track records out of the water, which is why it's now #1 on the Nürburgring FWD times. Overall, the new one is just the better car. Upgraded and practical parts and it's actually something I would buy over the other.

I would absolutely buy the new one if they made a couple. Love the videos watching from the U.S

What a comparison carwow! Have to say the New Civic Type-R is awesome but that is a lot of money in difference compared to its previous generation.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

What about comparison between Ford Focus 2022 and Toyota RSC?

@rayhan4502

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 Ofc the RCS slayy

@shivamarya5225

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 what's an Rsc?

@smokwawelski7235

Жыл бұрын

But at least it's not as nasty

regarding the handling/tyres/differences between the two gens: i switched from the OEM contis on my fk8 to the PS4Ss and it's basically as you're - Matt - is describing: i basically prefer the contis. so much more precise but the PS4Ss do feel more playful.

Matt is second to none in terms of test driving cars; his thorough, articulate turn by turn commentary on the driving experience of each car made me feel like I was actually driving them rather than watching a review. No other car reviewer does that for me; kudos!

5.62 was the best time an fk8 got on a previous video from Carwow!

Awesome comparison of the 2 Type Rs, but I noticed that the drag times of these performance cars tend to tapper off when compared to their newer models during a test, where usually when they're new, the times are more impressive. Is it due to ageing of the engines or the choice of tyres?

@ThePurpleSquares1

Жыл бұрын

Official 0-60 times will never be matched in the real world. The journalists and manufacturers abuse the hell out of the cars to get the lowest times and often do stuff like removing the 1ft rollout from the time. All i can say is that in the 15k miles ive had my FK8 i havent noticed any performance degredation (in fact, it hooks up even better now that i ditched the shit contis for Pilot AS4s). The FL5 also has a slightly longer final drive ratio than the FK8 which means it can hit ~62mph in 2nd whereas the FK8 only hits 58 and needs a 2-3 shift to do a 0-60.

@copperkeyracing6167

Жыл бұрын

It's called carbon buildup and lack of maintenance. 99% of people don't know how, and don't ever do it. Then they sell it, and the next guy thinks that's how it's supposed to be... and then it blows up.

I love the look of the Fk8. It’s in your face, it’s futuristic, and it’s instantly recognizable as a type r. The new type r can be parked next to a base model vw Jetta and you’d think they’re the same car. It looks good yes, but it doesn’t have that “cool” factor, it doesn’t say “I’m a race car”. It says “I’m on my way to the grocery store”

@BlueCivid

4 ай бұрын

Gotta see how wide they are in person lol

Really enjoy all your content Matt! Thanks for another interesting / fun video. At the end of the day, Honda is the real winner, as you said, they are really only competing with themselves. Also, well played Honda - the folks saying they enjoy the FL5 for it's "grown-up" looks, are ready to make the switch to an Acura. The future TypeS will be one to keep your eyes on.

I love the way the previous GEN type I looked except the rear, the new type R doesn't look bad, but I think it's a little under styled and looks basic in some angles

I love both, but I absolutely am delighted over the refined look of the FL5. The FL5 is more like the times of the EG chassis, its as if they modernized that, and I like the throwback feel of that because the EG looked very very good, and still looks good if you see it today. The FK8 is very cool, but its cool to see, not to live with, its the reason I dont have one. FL5 is such a nice looking vehicle that I cant wait for the ridiculous mark up to die out and then the lack of sales to make it dip even more, then Ill be ready..

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Ready for what?

@TamjidVlogs

Жыл бұрын

Facts EG design was the best

@W1es

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 To buy one....

@W1es

Жыл бұрын

Oh, and also, I would leave the crazier design space for Mugen to utilize, thats what they are suppesed to be about

@andresduques2013

8 ай бұрын

I'm afraid it will never be much cheaper than this mate, these kind of cars are always expensive, no matter how much time has passed smh

Love to see a drag race between the two. Saw another video n the fk8 , even with less hp kept winning .

Yes, we definitely need to see a track battle between the FL5 and the FK8

The upcoming Acura Integra Type S will be an excellent alternative. Same powertrain but a little more luxurious, and likely a smaller dealer mark-up.

@morgancunningham8819

Жыл бұрын

Wish we could get these RHD in the UK

@tjk9263

Жыл бұрын

Honda HQ in Japan tore the dealerships in the US a new butthole for the absurd dealer mark-ups on the Type R and I guess a lot of dealerships won't be getting anymore special edition anything for a while.

@imkirbo3094

Жыл бұрын

Imagine living in a country which has "dealer mark-ups" and calls Hondas "Acuras"...

@ngc-fo5te

Жыл бұрын

@@imkirbo3094 All countries have dealer markups at times.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@morgancunningham8819 Integra Type R 1995 and Honda Civic 3Door 1995 also best alternatives.

Mat We need a drag race of the type r fl5,fk8,fk2

Cant wait for the roll race!

I've got a late 2019 FK8 and love it. Have been thinking about the new one since it came out but the price hike and increased road tax cost as it's over £40k will probably make me keep what I have or look at other options in the used market. They actually just increased the new car from £47k to £50k as well.

@lukeskywalker1666

5 ай бұрын

I test drove one these before I got the bmw m140i problem with type r is their slow and the manual gearbox, handling wise tho very good.

Hi mat, for the first time i couldn't agree more on the exhaust system, I prefer the New one, it feels like a little more sporty or ... 🤔😁

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

I prefer 2023 one. Its just way better and has double the amount of bhp from the 2010 Civic.

@zno3177

Жыл бұрын

You mean you couldn’t agree less?

@reaver69

Жыл бұрын

Um Matt preferred the older one....

@J-oDean458

Жыл бұрын

@@reaver69 🤦‍♂️

@erlyszavala

Жыл бұрын

@@J-oDean458 I'm so confused. Are you mentally ill?

You should compare the FK2 with the FL5, too. Like the 1st VTEC Turbo vs the last VTEC Turbo. 😬

Just got the FL5 Sonic Gray. It's gorgeous and a blast to drive! Ran into a few FK8 homies and they only had good things to say about the design change.

Those FL5 seats indeed are truly fabulous

Matt please do a FK2 VS FK8 VS FL5 Drag, roll, track.. All same tyres. Stock VS stock.... With DECENT MANUAL DRIVERS.

@A4ANT

Жыл бұрын

This 🔥

@thestig4408

Жыл бұрын

... And not in the rain. Lol

@thestig4408

Жыл бұрын

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I must be the only person in the world that loves the FK8 design 😅

@CJax749

Жыл бұрын

As an FK8 owner I disagree😂

@rculture

Жыл бұрын

Prefer the FK8 over the FL5.

Love your videos so much but when are u going to review the Toyota land Cruiser & land Cruiser sport 2022

Just sold my fk8 yesterday it was gorgeous and I miss it already

I like the new one better in and out. I love the retro dash. Taken straight out the 70s

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Or Skyline 1971 vibes actually.

@StephenButlerOne

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 one of the early Z cars

The new Civic R is very simple yet looks really amazing.. a lot better than the previous generation.. the latest gen is one of my fav cars.. I was just hoping that it would have come with AWD drive system then it could have smashed all the cars in the segment.. just like a Lancer evo

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

It also has 100+ bhp more than all Lancer Evos.

Also a comparison with fk2+fk8 and fl5 would be great to see

the older one is definitely one of the bizarre designs ever.. simply loving it! Will be buying one this year

1 LOVE THE LOOK OF THE PREVIOUS MODEL TYPE R!!! It looks waaaay more intentional and dramatic than the car that replaced it.

It’s amazing how both cars seem to be so similar in hardware yet feel so different. I’m still not exactly sure what I think about the looks of the FK8 even after all these years. Fake vents don’t do it for me and it’s probably too OTT and too aggressive for my liking yet in certain colours it looks sort of awesome. Each to his or her own I guess. I am or at least used to be a die-hard Honda fan. Owned an original NSX, Accord Type R, DC2. The only thing that stopped me from getting the FK8 was the turbocharged engine. Effective, sure. And obviously an amazing car in most other respects, at least the ones which matter to a petrolhead. But I still think they went in the wrong direction with the engine. A proper Type R engine with a stratospherically high-revving NA engine and a an electric motor with a small LI-ION battery would have been both a better choice and a purer one, preserving what made Type Rs unique in the hot hatch world. The hybrid unit in the CRZ wasn’t all that heavy or expensive and I’d have taken the small weight penalty over adding a turbo. I just think Honda make some really weird decisions sometimes. Same with the ‘new’ NSX. That car lost so much by going turbocharged when they could have achieved similar results with a NA engine and slightly more powerful electric motors. These things should have been locked-in at the conception stage as absolute non-negotiables and, given that Honda was a pioneer with the whole hybrid thing with the original Insight, it would have doubly made sense! As it stands, if I wanted a 4 seat car which could - at least at a push - do family duty, I’d go for an Japanese FD2 over any of the turbocharged Civics, regardless of them offering more shock and even if they are better in many ways.

Bravoooooo. Great analisy. Great video

@JoseMorales-ld6er

Жыл бұрын

@OfficialMatwatson01 hello Matt and team

Watching this sat in my 2021 Type R GT in bright red.

Sorry, got a disagree with Matt ,This isn’t even my type of car, but I prefer the old car with the aggressive styling.

I like the newer type r..I’m not a flashy car kind of guy..the newer one allows for some good exterior upgrades

Would be interesting to see a track battle with 1/4 mile and laps . Both have pros and cons . All personal preference which one is better. Allegedly fk8 is still faster but they have refined it a bit in Fl5 and looks more grown up more like a saloon with a wing bolted on.

The new design of this Civic is too common for me, but the spirit of the samurai is still here.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

The 2023 Civic Type R looked like J-Coupe from Burnout Dominator too.

Absolutely love the new design. Very simplistic just how the original ek9 was.

Thank You

Great video Matt. Much prefer the FK8, in every respect.

I LOVE the design of the 10th gen. That’s why I decided it to be my first car. The regular civic, not the Type R. And everyone of my family and friends loves the 10th gen design as well. I like the interior of the new one though.

@alexl.102

Жыл бұрын

I agree i get compliments often on my sedan although i do like the rear end of the this hatch

@TheDefiledShell

8 ай бұрын

Yup, I have a 10th Gen Sport Touring, I get so many compliments on it. Imo it’s the best looking Civic ever made.

If I'm not mistaken I believe the fl5 has different gearing than the fk8. So it might be hitting 60 at the top of second where the fk8 needs 3rd gear. clever way to make a car seem faster than its predecessor.

@CJax749

Жыл бұрын

You’re correct. But the FL5 is using similar gearing to the FK2, yet is much better at delivering the power. I believe there’s more to it😂

@atflores85

Жыл бұрын

@@CJax749 oh I know there is more to it. Just an observation from watching the video. No research on my part was done before making my comment.

As soon as I get a ad that I can’t skip 👋🏻

Are the steering wheels interchangeable? I’d love to have that fl5 wheel in my fc1

In my opinion, the 2005 Honda NSX Type R is the greatest Japanese car... *Jeremy Clarkson pause*... ever.

@JZX_Nate

Жыл бұрын

‘in the world’

What I’ve learned from driving these hard is that it only takes one mountain turn and some sand on the the ground to make you go flying off that mountain. Otherwise fantastic machine, drive safe everyone!

@LITTEULCEVENN

Жыл бұрын

The differential will send power to the wheel with the more grip. If both wheels have no grip it will send you off the road.

@farindeeba543

Жыл бұрын

So the moral of the story is don’t race around mountain turns because you’re high up?!

The new design is so much better. Really hope y’all do the actual drag race

I have the FK8 but I want to upgrade to the FL5. Love the look way way better.

I truly think the older one looks better. It’s stands out as a type R better. Yes it’s aggressive, yes it’s rice-y, but that’s what’s you’re going for with a type R. At least in my opinion.

I like the older one, But I liked the one before that even more

@oscarkabowski8413

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the fk2 was the last "small" Civic.

@FK2VtecTurbo

Жыл бұрын

Me too 👍

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

2023 Civic just far better imo.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@FK2VtecTurbo Spoon Civic and Spoon FIT are also better.

What a result, and incredible advice from matt. Totally agree.

FL5 tires are 265mm vs FK8 245mm. Interesting that you like the FK8 handling better. Maybe too much rear grip now is a little more understeery. Maybe they had to lighten the steering to handle the extra contact patch.

The past generation seems more athletic and it is not worth paying this difference in the new generation.😶😶

New ones so much better looking than the old one!

I looove how that new one looks

I love the inteior of the old FK8 and exterior of the new FL5

Hot take: The old Civic looks better to me

@funtimediaz7435

Ай бұрын

That’s not much of a hot take, most people too like the old design more

Raise your hand if you've been watching Carwow for a long time🤚

@kozmo7640

Жыл бұрын

Bro why carwow built like that

@akoss_2009

Жыл бұрын

bot

@Fifers86

Жыл бұрын

Ya fucking like hoor

@James__bond007

Жыл бұрын

No

@haleemm870

Жыл бұрын

✋

Hi Carwow, ive noticed you dont have any videos on a Porsche carrera and carrera S besides the launch video, all the other videos are of the turbo s, it would be nice to see some comparison with other models.

I had the same PS4s tyres as the new type r fitted to my m2. I had them removed after a few months I thought they had really vague steering feel and didn’t feel composed in high speed corners.

I mean, the price is a total piss take.

FL5 better, might got too boring but it’s have better upgrades, FL5 stands out better especially the headlights at night

@ApothecaryTerry

Жыл бұрын

Mat was saying the FL5 is less boring. The complaints were that it's less of a serious sports car (for me, being a serious sports car was the FK8's biggest flaw, that's what Porsches are for) but mainly that the FL5 is £47k. Since I mentioned Porsches, you can get a brand new 718 for £47k. The problem with the FL5 is simple. The FK8 has a niche - if you can only own one car, need to carry a family but do a lot of track days, there's nothing better. The FL5 doesn't have a niche, since it's worse at all that than the FK8 so the only reason you'd buy an FL5 over a used FK8 are looks and fun. Well, buy an i30N or 308 GTi then, they're both 100000x more fun and both look better. Then there's the elephant nobody seems to be mentioning- the FK8 took the FK2 and made it more serious. The FL5 is taking the FK8 and making it less serious again...so if you want a less serious FK8, spend £15k on an FK2! Then you've got £30k to buy a used Porsche...like mine that happens to be for sale soon 😂 The Honda niche was always being better on track, which I'm sure it still is, but if the FK8 is better...why exactly would anyone ever buy an FL5? I don't dislike it, it's just that for any possible scenario I can think of, another car is a better choice. Leaves me with 1 conclusion - the FL5 is only good if you want a Honda collection.

Fk2 is still the best, lovely front end crazy back end and mines flipping quick I reckon quicker than both of these at 360bhp crazy fun love it, well until I get in my ep3 and I still love that to the moon and back ❤️❤️❤️❤️

I think ill always love and prefer my European cars, but great vid Matt I always enjoy watching you

I'd have neither, save myself 20k and get an fk-2

@alsayedfakhri4597

Жыл бұрын

I'd go for the FK8 at least, as someone who has owned both (and has an FL5 on order) the FK8 is a massive upgrade. The fk2 is the value buy but the FK8 is just better in every way.

@Matt-go7ss

Жыл бұрын

@@alsayedfakhri4597 that's what's I've read. I've also read the ride in the fk-2 is awful. I love the fk-2 looks though!

@alsayedfakhri4597

Жыл бұрын

@@Matt-go7ss yeah, the fk2 does look nice and you're correct, the biggest issue with the fk2 is ride quality. Drive both, see if the price difference is worth it - like I said, the fk2 is abit of a bargain still.

@Matt-go7ss

Жыл бұрын

@@alsayedfakhri4597 thanks for your advice 👍

@CJax749

Жыл бұрын

@@alsayedfakhri4597 Sound like you’re the same as me mate😂 the fk8 is a big jump over fk2 and I’m expecting the FL5 to be a big improvement over my pre-facelift fk8