Funny enough this is faster than ikit claw can get tier 5!! Keep in mind the amount of money this will generate for you will MASSIVELY snowball you building new armies / getting you all the money you need for buildings etc. Also Make sure to follow exactly as I do in the video as when the quest reward completes if you haven't got enough settlements you won't get enough food to get tier5! Thanks for watching guys :)

@TisTheWay

Жыл бұрын

I hope you are putting all of these Tier 5 vids into a playlist

Not only do you get a tier 5 city, you also get an entire province to go along with it lol. This strategy is absolutely crazy and I love it.

@TonyFireDragon

Жыл бұрын

to add onto that, you can get lvl 20 assassins with every settlement have the assassin den trait once fully maxed out, giving stitch a literal immortal death squad in tow. There is cheese and then there's skaven cheese.

For everyone wondering why his autoresolve was so favorable, he was on easy difficulty. Just use easy difficulty until you finish doing this and then swap to any difficulty you'd like to

Thanks for the vid!

they fixed the rites but its still doable as long as the second army backs off and you dont fight it at the same time he did then raze the capital before occupying for the extra food to get to 121

On the initial battle of Celestial Monastery my units suffered too much damage from the previous auto resolves and you can't auto resolve it the first time, but simply playing it out should be ok.

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

I'd recommend turning the battle difficulty down if you'd like to follow the strategy I do, otherwise fight the battles :)

@todhold2673

Жыл бұрын

@@Battleseyttv Ohhh!!! That makes sense. You should mention this in the video. I was super confused on how your autoresolves resulted in damn near 100% healthy units.

Awesome! Is this viable as Throt? I dont think he has a food quest early though

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

I'll be taking Throt to the lab soon 🧪👨‍🔬 I'll figure out what he can do

@ho8ojoe8

Жыл бұрын

in wh2 you could get him to tier 4 by turn 4 i think

@Unonomouse

Жыл бұрын

@@Battleseyttv I tested Throt the other day and got Tier 5 Hell pit on turn 7 without using the bugged rite on turn one. I was a little intricate the way I did it but idk how you can get it earlier.

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

@@Unonomouse Cheers Karl, any pointers?

@Unonomouse

Жыл бұрын

@@Battleseyttv Hope this makes sense and hope you can improve it. Turn 1: Recruit Warlock master lord at Hellpit and recruit 3 units and move as close to Fort Straghov as possible and build rubbish pit. Attack Kislev army WITHOUT putting hero into Throts army and take food reward. Encircle Fort Ostrosk with Throt and add hero to army then occupy settlement (TURN OFF collect income option if on legendary to stop early rebellion) and recruit units with Throt. (If we are ignoring rite bug then use expansionist planning on Hell pit for this turn to unlock rite next turn) Turn 2: Activate dominating scheme. Encircle Fort Straghov with Throt and march Warlock towards settlement but keep close to fort Ostrosk. Sack the settlement and march Throt towards Zoishenk and keep in own territory for replenishment and change Hellpit commandment to food generation. Turn 3: Occupy Zoishenk with Throt and recuit some more units and put warlock in raid stance keeping him in Fort Straghov but as close to Fort Ostrosk as possible to bait out army from Straghov settlement (they don't always attack though) END TURN and then retreat from attacking army and then take fight when you have reinforcements from garrison at for Ostrosk. Take food reward after battle. Turn 4: Occupy Fort Straghov with Throt and march Warlock into Hellpit province towards unoccupied Yetchitch settlement (if Warlock did not move previous turn try giving Throt units before moving away). Upgrade Fort Ostrosk main building and activate exploitative planning on Troll Country. Turn 5: Put Throt in raid stance and move towards hell pit and move warlock close enough to Yetchitch to use underpass next turn. Turn 6: Keep Throt in raid stance and move closer to hell pit and abandon Hellpit then use warlock to underpass towards settlement Turn 7: There is a bug where before you settle at Yetchitch you have "120/115 food" settling at Yetchitch bumps it up to 120/120 so maybe it is not necessary. If for some reason you are still short on food you can activate the growth vat which will give you 10 more food.

The Orks prolly wanted to giv you a crumpin' after that.

i do have a tier 5 throt by like turn f and have complete control of the whole snow biome :)

Turn 8-10 you can get a tier 5 settlement if you do it right

Is it me or are his autoresolve results, super lucky.

@alexshaw6047

Жыл бұрын

easy difficulty

Great tactic. What difficulty is the campaign set to for this tactic? I’m on VH and my units are too wounded after the first battle to take the village of the moon settlement without losing my triads and warp grinder units.

@ap_ace7237

Жыл бұрын

U need to fight a lot of these battles manually. He probably had it on easy battles for auto resolve to show the strategy for us

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

Very Hard Campaign Easy battle difficulty for the sake of showing the strategy off, tune it down if you just want to auto or fighting the battles manually will work! :)

@el_danimal5028

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Battle, new to WH3 and I began a Clan Eshin in campaign right before getting this video in my feed. Great timing ha!

combine this with rockboy turn 1 skaven lord save cheese and you got your campaign ready to go

@micahhurst9308

Жыл бұрын

Yo what is this cheese

@torch1028

Жыл бұрын

@@micahhurst9308 skrolk can recruit a chieften lord named ian rockborrkw turn 1 he has no trait according to the recruit screen He in fact does have a trait which increases scrap income factionwide Make a few burner campaigns and save him Load somewhere else

Geez I played Miao Ying for last 3 days, haven't have any strategy as broken as this one

@2ndFace666

Жыл бұрын

Haven't played Cathay in a while. Has their strategy evolved beyond, level up Your Lord and steamroll?

@alexanderlow919

Жыл бұрын

@@2ndFace666 funny enough but what I notice is that bastion gate is kinda bugged,since it's occupied by green color Cathay faction the Kurgan invasion not spawning plus vilitch ai is busy dealing with drazoath ai I believe,I don't even bother to kill vilitch anymore so instead I take out the rebels then go kill snitch and from that point onwards I can do whatever I want lol.btw I played on very hard very hard with harder battle ai mod and Jadawin longer battle mod too

Yeah, in my campaign the orc army moved to the right and i couldnt reach it, sadge. tier4 it is..

The way you say 'Settlement' makes it sound like you are on 1.5x speed.

No matter how many attempts I give it, Sniktch just will NOT ambush the Dimmed Sunz army on turn two. Dozens and dozens of attempts and reloads, not a single ambush.

@n1gtwhisper158

Жыл бұрын

dont auto resolve it then lmao

@todhold2673

Жыл бұрын

@@n1gtwhisper158 Doing the fight manually on very hard difficulty with the units the guide says isn't really feasible.

I've done something similar as Ikit Claw (Clan Skyre) but was only able to get to Tier IV because of food restrictions. I've not yet found a way to bypass it to get to 120 food instead of being locked at 85. I think I'm missing something but I have to figure out what exaclty. Or is it that the extra 20 food from the quest ignore that limit somehow.

@DJESPANAPresents

Жыл бұрын

Every settlement you control gives +5 maximum food capacity. So you need 4 settlements to have 120 capacity and then you can colonise the 5th with 120 food for tier 5.

@MCChimp

Жыл бұрын

@@DJESPANAPresents the better strat imo is to abandon Skavenblight once youre at a 120+ food instead if settling a 5th city, so you can pop that to tier 5 instantly. growth in single city provinces is always so damn slow, it can consistently be done around turn 9, turn 7 or 8 are also possible with varying degrees of RNG

just tried this and i got 14 food for the mission. couldnt go over the food cap of 115

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

You needed to get another settlement, make sure to follow exactly what I do

@ErzaMan14

Жыл бұрын

Oh ok, thanks. I’ll try it again the next chance I can

2:55 in ambush stances enemy always run away from me to escape zone ;(

This doesnt even look like a cheese. Just a legitimate thing.

@thesen8

Жыл бұрын

it's bc of the rites. other than that i think i agree

Can someone help me i follow the guideto the letter but my food capacity 115! how to i get it to 120 ???

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

You're missing one settlement before taking the capital

Jeezus, this is still viable in 3.1! You just hit 120 food on the final battle of kulan! ( because they fixed the rites)

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

Should still work with the quest giving food :)

why rush though isn't most of units locked behind contracts? unlike where having tier 4 or even 5 early on is awesome for doomwheels or mortar teams

@assertiveman8473

Жыл бұрын

Units are not locked behind contracts, or at least I don't believe they are. They merely take a penalty of recruitment cost being astronomically high (200%). Though going through this strat will save a lot of time having to wait for growth to accumulate enough for a population point, not to mention the gold cost of building to the next tier and the time needed to build-up towards it. To keep it short, you save a lot of time and money by doing this, while giving you the advantage of having some of more crucial and critically important buildings available to them instantly.

@holysword876

Жыл бұрын

You can do a lot more stuff with early tier 5 city access though. For example you can open up research tree faster. Get research rate up faster. Get more gold per turn earlier. And so on. You do have a good point about other units being psuedo locked being contracts but tier 5 city is still super nice.

@ilari90

Жыл бұрын

@@holysword876 Better defenses, too, won't be nothing to scoff at this early, although not that great on that map maybe apart from the extra units.

I know this campain is only to show the strat and the trait is not relevant for you. But taking knowledgeable when a cunning Lord was RIGHT THERE really hurt me not gonna lie😂

not enought ammo to win turn 2 fight

Ahh man can't do it anymore :(

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

What's changed about it? I can dig into it again if needed, the rite shouldn't be needed

@kccts44

Жыл бұрын

@@Battleseyttv Can't use the ritual anymore

@tomayris3671

Жыл бұрын

Depends, I've had celestial lake lvl4 and kunlan lvl5 by turn10 in last week playing 3.1....

Sadly it only works in the lower difficulty modes.

Wish I could enjoy the skaven more. Skrolk is the only one I enjoy but the attrition changes from whw to wh3 made him so much less enjoyable.

Ikit claw stronger for mid late game or this faction?

@Battleseyttv

Жыл бұрын

I'd say early-mid Eshin has it but Ikit's doomstacks can't really be beaten

Skaven make this game unplayable

The distance he covered from turn 3-4 was a different cut. That’s why he isn’t showing this at default angle.

Is this very easy difficulty or what . wth is that auto resolve :D

@todhold2673

Жыл бұрын

yes. it is.

Dealing with those bloody Savage Orcs is not fun at all and their stupid Physical Resistance is not helping.

I get the idea, but what good is wasting 120 food on a settlement when Snikitch can only recruit Eshin units (who cap at tier 3) until he gets enough contracts?

@ListenAndDie

Жыл бұрын

Money and heroes

@assertiveman8473

Жыл бұрын

Most of Skaven's income comes from their buildings, plural. Just because you can't benefit from most of the units as Eshin until later on after done enough contracts, doesn't mean you can't benefit from the building effects. Getting the public order building along with that one building that enhances the percentage of income of the province will help you snowball and in turn get more armies, in turn getting more lords available to do the contracts.

@xiaoxiaoxiao4

Жыл бұрын

They not locked behind contracts. You just pay more to recruit them