Fact is it's absolutely useless! The vehicle moving causes serious medical conditions to every crew and passenger. As a result the UK has completely stopped all further vehicles and all training or use of the donkey vehicle. Thank you General Dynamics, the wonderful US engineering at work! Time we went back to good old British engineering!

@Cartoonman154

Жыл бұрын

I think they resumed testing the other day. “I wish to provide an update on the AJAX equipment project that is part of the Armoured Cavalry Programme. My first concern is the safety of our personnel, which has been at the forefront of the work that has been ongoing over the summer. I am pleased to be able to inform the House that, following agreement from the AJAX Safety Panel, this work has led to resuming the User Validation Trials paused earlier this year and since Monday 10th October there have been eight days of trials. Successful completion of User Validation Trials will allow progression toward Reliability Growth Trials. I will continue to ensure that the House is kept updated on these matters.” More guff.

@travisedmonds4214

Жыл бұрын

Good British engineering? From the unsinkable titanic, the amazing Valient tank, to the SA80. Britain has a long proud history excellence in engineering.

@BS3RED

Жыл бұрын

@@travisedmonds4214The L85A3 Is actually a pretty tidy rifle now. Only took 20 years mind.

@MichaelKng-fk5jk

Жыл бұрын

@@travisedmonds4214 Titanic (unsinkable a press speculation), more a command error wasn't it? Still a long proven fact not to tangle with icebergs. Valient, a prototype, like many Nations experiment. Why not the Centurion? Challenger, the only modern battle tested MBT not to be taken out by enemy action, unlike the Abrams with was a RPG magnet it was so easy to engage. Warrior, much feared by every enemy that met it. The SA80, issues at start because of Government cost constriction, just look at the AR issues which were much worse. The SA80 Mk3 is up there with the best of the world and easily beats them on accuracy. Yes you'll say HK but, it's HK Nottingham, nothing German there, just visit it! Even the SA80 Mk1 you'd not like to be in front of. I saw some minor issues, never did it not fire if you knew the weapon, massively badly reported by certain units that had an agenda to adopt what the SAS were using. If you think British engineer still doesn't lead in ways you know zero about submarines, space, jet engines, crypto, electronic warfare. Maybe not the richest nation anymore

@Cartoonman154

Жыл бұрын

@@BS3RED Decrepied infrastructure, Hyatt Regency walkway collapse, Three-mile island, Tacoma Narrows Bridge, New Orleans Levees, St. Francis Dam, Kemper Arena, Pinto, Challenger Space Shuttle, Cleveland East Ohio Gas Explosion. ETC . America has a long proud history of excellence in engineering. Don't be such a MeriMutt.

Oh yeah this vehicle shocked so much that it caused the crew to suffer nausea, swollen joint, tinnitus, and hearing loss due to the excessive vibration and noise. The vibration also caused electronic systems to be damaged, prevents the armament from stabilizing and the suspension problems means that the turret cannot fire while on the move. Its shocked the world that this vehicle hasn't been cancelled yet.

@Bobario1

Жыл бұрын

Warrior can't fire on the move either. Nothing new there.

Army would have been better off with CV90, proven technology and off the shelf. No test and development costs.

@csm2455

5 ай бұрын

The problem was not that they went with ASCOD over CV90, the problem was that they had so many custom add ons which required additional development. If they utilise those systems in other projects then it begins to pay for itself but we’ll see 🤷‍♂️

CV90 forever

@dwwolf4636

Жыл бұрын

yep

@dc-4ever201

Жыл бұрын

At least it's tried and tested as well as updated constantly. BaE even offered to build the hulls here and integrate the CT40 turrets already manufactured for Ajax.

@trevorhart545

Жыл бұрын

@@dc-4ever201 Civil Servants who accept bribes made the decision on GD UK?

@dc-4ever201

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorhart545 I wouldn't be surprised, I mean how else does someone turn a blind eye to let a broken vehicle win a competition against working ones?

@peterwait641

Жыл бұрын

@@dc-4ever201 The contract was paid on production milestones , not much incentive to fix early on !

Buy the CV90

There's no new news on the Ajax since there trials were halted due to safety issues and the vehicles total failure to achieve any goals set out. It is impressive on paper that is as far as it gets. They replaced a scout tank with an IFV thats 8 Tons with 42 Tons, why the he'll they did this and ordered Boxer which is successful btw and also an IFV is beyond me. Well at least they can take the turrets off these and stick them on Boxer hulls. General Dynamics sold the MoD a Turkey based on the ascod which has never worked correctly. Someone at the MoD was clearly bribed to accept this PoS when the CV90 made by BaE systems is proven, successful and upgraded constantly. An investigation by Parliament and the Police is needed to find out where our ££ Billions have gone!

@peter.a.langan5872

Жыл бұрын

US MIC and bribery to take an overpriced pos, I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!

@dc-4ever201

Жыл бұрын

@@peter.a.langan5872 Yup ain't capitalism great, where bribery and corruption are the veritable grease that seems to slip in everywhere.

@thearmouredpenguin7148

Жыл бұрын

Never attribute to a conspiracy ( or a bribe ), that which can more easily be explained by incompetence.

@dc-4ever201

Жыл бұрын

@@thearmouredpenguin7148 There's no other way to explain how a non working vehicle beats working ones in trials. Even incompetence of ludicrous levels doesn't cover that and well we know how the defence industry does things, bribes and back handers are a way of life to those kind of people.

@gurglejug627

Жыл бұрын

smile, relax, it's the UK - part of Pakistan. No worries.

Highly unlikely this platform will ever see service as its now well behind its delivery deadline and so far no vehicles have been found to be of acceptable standard. Problems with the vibration and noise are now well known and general dynamics does not even know if it can be fixed

@mementomori7825

Жыл бұрын

Fun tho, they could just get the CV 90 instead.

@kingcurry6594

Жыл бұрын

Correct. This is one of the biggest scandals in British military history and the MOD should be suing General Dynamics for the full cost of the program.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@mementomori7825 or the standart ASCOD on wich Ajax is based.... seems to function well in austrian and spanish service....

@paladindanse2989

Жыл бұрын

So another story of failed super expensive western AFV development.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@paladindanse2989 well, there are succesful ones like Puma, Boxer, KF-41

It has a crew of 2. Commander, gunner and driver.

Informative and concise: excellent.

@incredible_facts

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Awesome! 👍

The shock is that £5bn has been spent on Ajax and that is has been scrapped.

@dallen521

Жыл бұрын

No shock. The MOD has wasted billions and billions on failed IFV developments for decades.

@simonb4757

Жыл бұрын

@@dallen521 And they contine that trend by procuring Boxer, great vehicle, juat not for the job they are buying it for, it a not a Warrior replacement.

we need to cancel this shambles and get what we can back in terms of money and go for the CV90

@ronlumsden3164

Жыл бұрын

This vehicle is rubbish. How many vehicles do you know that the crew get sea sick in it Some of the time it's ok but it starts to rock as it's reached a certain speed travelling over rough ground. I'm told it's not bad on the smoth highway. And it has other problems that haven't been fixed as well. Told looks good but a rubbish vehicle. This is from men who did the testing, not some one reading out of a book trying to sell these view. This has been going on for years still hasn't passed test or fixed.up these problems.

@RR-us2kp

Жыл бұрын

Too much invested

@dannyblackwell2426

Жыл бұрын

@@RR-us2kp yep with so many ex military and MPS with shares in the company not surprised

Lovely😮

Why don't they go for the lynx cv90

Faults have been fixed, programme continues.

They made a 40k Chimera .. Very cool

@dc-4ever201

Жыл бұрын

Would be cooler if it actually worked and wasn't more dangerous to it's crews than the enemy.

It only shocked the UK by getting dropped from production for causing serious sickness problems for the crew

I'm so shocked I couldn't sleep. :]

my thoughts on the *cough* Ajax is hold back on it upgrade the warrior with a new turret and whatever else it needs whilst researching how to fix the Ajax and its many problems and if the Ajax can't be fixed then your just left with an upgraded warrior so you can start a new or buy hint hint pre-existing IFV's hint hint.

@tattyheid7279

Жыл бұрын

The taxpayers would be delighted at this suggestion :)

@hisredrighthand5212

9 ай бұрын

Since the UK is already on track to operate the largest fleet of Boxers in the world and is churning them out from two plants, it might be an idea worth contemplating to take all the bleeding edge technology from the Ajax and build the most advanced mission module to date for the Boxer, along with some modular armor solution to get the required protection level. One approach could be combining the highest available protection level armor kit with an APS like Trophy or AMAP-ADS. There are plenty of countries that operate the Boxer and would probably be VERY interested in ways to turn their Boxers into light/medium tanks or whatever the correct term for that kind of vehicle is - at what would likely be a fraction of the cost for say a brand new Leopard 2A8. If I’m not mistaken, ordered in small numbers those easily cost €17 million per unit. Imagine if the UK could offer a package consisting of mission module and armor upgrade for £5 million say to the Baltic nations that operate Boxers but don’t operate a single tank.

@paulhill1665

6 ай бұрын

The warrior upgrade program has been dropped, with the Boxer to replace it, not ideal, as the Boxer is an APC, not an IFV.

@chrisbacon3071

6 ай бұрын

@@paulhill1665 yes the warrior program was dropped mainly because the turrets kept warping and break the hull and the boxer might not be an IFV but because of its modularity it can become an IFV just look at the Australian Boxer. Also did you look at when I posted this comment? It’s old news by now! One could even say because it’s so old it wrong.

What shocked the world was how badly it was bungled and how poorly it does the job it's designed for.

3:52 that’s that 40mm Gmg my friend 😂

Incredible sales pitch more like 😉

But will any of them be better than the Warrior? especially if upgraded to the same specs.

Da war jetzt aber nichts dabei, was mich geschockt hat! Ist halt eine Multifunkionsplatform wo deshalb viele Kompromisse eingehen muss.

The pricetag what the MIC will put on it will certanly shock all of us....

Isn't this replacing the warrior, not the older Simitar? I may be wrong 😅

Good video, although they wont be relying on the Warrior due to delays with Ajax, Ajax is for recce, the warrior is an infantry fighting vehicle and is being replaced by the boxer. To think, I almost stayed in the army out of the excitement of getting to work with the Ajax, the equipment on this thing is impressive, glad i didn't as that was 20 years ago, such a badly handled procurement. I also think it is too big and noisy for a recce vehicle, the Scimitar was the perfect recce vehicle, they just needed to make a newer version with better protection, rubber tracks and quieter gearbox.

@dallen521

Жыл бұрын

Scimitar had rubber tracks. All the CVRT family did. They certainly did in the 1970s and 1980s. Or am I misunderstanding what you mean?

@AS-yc3wp

Жыл бұрын

@@dallen521 I think your mistaken, they never did, I used to drive them and fire them. There was talk of a trial in the 90's but it never happened. There was no rubber tracks before I drove them as far as I am aware, I was also the trained mechanic on them and did not hear of rubber tracks before my time.

@dallen521

Жыл бұрын

@@AS-yc3wp I have also utilised CVRT. They had rubber inserts in the trucks from what I remember back in the 1980s.

@AS-yc3wp

Жыл бұрын

@@dallen521 oh ok gotcha, they were the bushes for the link pins in the tracks. I'm talking full rubber tracks with no metal. Same as a car, where you have metal in metal contact, you either oil it, grease it or bush it 😁

@petermeyerhoff8737

Жыл бұрын

Yes it was supposed to replace the scimitar/scorpion platform. I can't quite see how a 40+ tonne monster is going to fit the role. I think they lost their way along the route. It's practically a medium tank. It sort of follows British military weapon procurement - design, constantly change, invest to the point of research testing and development then either give it away (if it works) or throw it away if it doesn't. Nation of lions led by a heard of donkeys.

Most of the hulls are complete, just a matter of finishing them.

the scorpion had cracking in the armour when first entering soivice .

Looks to me like it's made of Meccano; (For those of you who are old enough to remember what that was).

@pencilpauli9442

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same. lol

Ajax has been a debacle from the start. I can’t imagine any British soldier would want to have anything to do with this heap of crap. Let’s not forget General Dynamics is an American Corporation.

The fact that is got this far along without anyone bringing up the issue with vibration seems to be indicative of some corruption in the process if not individuals.

It was the bang it made when it backfired

Any comments about Gen Dynamics being American? Has the UK now acquired the Military Industrial Complex?

I'm shocked!!

Isn’t it wonderful, they took a design that had been in use for over twenty years in a couple of other countries and completely screwed it up.

you can fix most vibrations and noise by glueing rubber panels to the inside walls, i've done it over a hundred times to shaky body vehicles and large industrial machines that have mystery vibrations

@tatradak9781

Жыл бұрын

That's not solving the problem.. Its covering it up.. It will be cancelled because even at £10m each that's double the price of the proven CV90..

I have not heard of Spain complaining of having similar problems with its own ASCOD.... Either way... at this point it would be more prudent do buy a premade IFV directly from Sweden, the US,, Germany or South Korea.

CVRT can not be replaced by the Ajax

The world was shocked OMG.

hope they can resolve it the men and women of the british army should have the best equipement and support and training as needed

@thearmouredpenguin7148

Жыл бұрын

No matter how much lipstick you put on it, it's still going to look like a pig.

How did it get to a production contract with these problems. surely they were revealed in trials of the prototypes?

@user-ru2yl2pj9x

Жыл бұрын

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Yes the cost has SKY ROCKETED since this vlog was made.

Put the name of the vehicle in the title please.

Just buy the cv90...

I think Ukraine has shown that a child’s drone is far more deadly than a 30 ton vehicle.

@joeie5979

Жыл бұрын

The only thing that the Ukraine/US adventure shows is that NATO is loosing the war despite pumping up it's proxi to the brim .8 years of training and equipping this ukrainian proxi army for nothing . The whole place will be destroyed ....it is a shame .

@tonkerdog1

Жыл бұрын

@@joeie5979 Are you seriously suggesting NATO made Putin invade ?

I'm so shocked 😳 over this new fighting vehicle, said nobody in the world ever!!

@raptorteam486

10 ай бұрын

They're shocked how incompetent the development and delivery process is

Failing to invest in the Defense companies that designed UK armoured vehicles in the past has created a skills gap similar to the Astute program which took billions to fix. This armoured vehicle is although a GD Production a serious failure due to decades of no investment and now we want a tailored vehicle to British Spec, its laughable! Invest in people long term and maybe you get an adequate vehicle, don't invest and you get a shambles costing billions, for god's sake wake up!

@gazza9463

Жыл бұрын

There are skills gaps across all sectors of Britain P.L.C. Million plus vacancies which very few want (or can't) to fill. Those that could fill the gaps won't because of the poor salaries and/or working conditions offered.

@joaoheinz3449

Жыл бұрын

@@gazza9463 The Arms industry is by and large very well paid as are most government financed jobs. Yes there are skills gaps in many sectors which foreign labour can help the UK with. This hasn't just happened its roots go back to the 80's. I benefitted from a training facility owned by the state in Chorley where Engineers could learn any skill set from jointing cables in roads to mapping those cables to rewiring a house to manufacturing tools and components, That training facility was quite modern, it's now gone and a housing estate in its place. We've been telling kids to go to university, which is ok for some but others should have been given practical training in pipework or learning how to fix cars etc...Practical useful stuff. But instead we've ended up with over educated people that are completely useless and totally convinced that the planet is going to overheat tomorrow and that everything their ancestors did in industries that built this country caused this, its F-ckin joke!

@gazza9463

Жыл бұрын

@@joaoheinz3449 I agree with you entirely

@joaoheinz3449

Жыл бұрын

@@gazza9463 Apologies for ranting ;)

@gazza9463

Жыл бұрын

@@joaoheinz3449 No worries. I empathize with your frustration with what has happened over the last 40 or so years.

Should of kept up with the warrior upgrade and saved a fuck ton of money

THE PHOTOS I'VE SEEN LOOKS LIKE ITS ARMOUR IS FROM A MECANO SET?????

The BOXER is now coming into British army and it's way better, we are still keeping warriors and upgrading the main gun from a 30 mm to a 40 mm Cannon mostly for infantry support and urban warfare, or anything bigger we have of course the new Challenger 3 MBT tanks

@paulhill1665

Жыл бұрын

The Warrior upgrade has been abandoned. Current plan is to replace the Warrior with the boxer. The Warrior was an IFV, the boxer is a APC, completely different tasks.

@simonb4757

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who thinks Warrior is still getting an upgrade has been living under a rock for the past year and a half or more. Boxer is replacing Warrior (and maybe Ajax, only time will tell) even though its not actually suited to either the Warrior's role or Ajax's role. But buying Boxer is yet another tale of woe in British Military procurement, the right vehicle for the wrong job.

@TheBooban

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhill1665 uh? By APC you mean not armed. That’s wrong. Boxer very much armed. All kinds. Boxer is just wheeled. Some terrain, you need tracks.

@paulhill1665

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBooban currently the versions being procured by the UK do not include an IVF, just the protected mobility version, e.g. a battlefield taxi, or an APC. AN IFV requires heaver weapons to be able to support troops, such as the now cancelled upgrade to the warrior, with the new 40mm gun system. Given the current state of the UK finances, who is to say that the Boxer program will even continue. The recently announced planned increase in the UK defence spending to 3% of GDP has already been dropped.

It sounds just like when vehicles are recalled with issues found afterwards. These military armored vehicles are not that easy to dissassemble and fix the problem it would take a very long time. Too bad if war breaks out and they need the equipment.

@dc-4ever201

Жыл бұрын

It didn't help that the hulls supplied were all different sizes, so the engineers in the UK had difficulty trying to isolate what was causing the deafening vibrations. In production, if you're gonna build something on a line, it helps if they parts are the same size so if problems are found they can find the cause easily.

@marcbrehaut9510

Жыл бұрын

Or that the lack of quality control resulted in hull sides of different lengths on some vehicles.

There ajax proem seems similar to tye special force chinook helicopter fiasco !

No surprise's here. UK MOD procurement has a history of commissioning projects that are overpriced, rarely on budget and crap when accepted into service despite the concerns of the soldiers who have to use the equipment. Challenger 1, SA80A1, Tarmagan radio, Clansman radio and the bonedome helmet. all shite and known to be so. Challenger I can confirm as I was at ATDU for prototype trials, it was poor. We could have had Leopard 2. Should have. We're obsessed as a country with buying home grown equipment based on politicians pandering to constituents. Bottom line is we can't make much anymore as those same politicians have annihilated our industrial base. Add 6 type 45 frigates and 2 carrier's to the crap list. One type 45 is nicknamed HMS Hopeless. £1 billion by the way.

Scrap it and go for wheeled versions without the many faults!

@mementomori7825

Жыл бұрын

Oooor the CV90

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@mementomori7825 or KF-41, or Boxer CRV etc

i'm surprised it's 40mm not standard nato for that reason we use 35mm in the netherlands

What shocks me is use of shocks the world, before everything you produce. SHOCKING ,SHOUKETH ,SHAKEN ,

This vehicle is fundamentally flawed. I'm not sure they even yet know exactly what the flaw is. If it comes into service at all it will be as a demonstration vehicle to be used on how not to design a complete lemon. Will it survive the scrutiny of those who are probably know climbing all over it to rectify the problem. Most seem to doubt it - I'll go along with that. The irony is the vehicle it was to replace was a superlative example of how to get it right first time. The British Army could do worse than use the Warrior as a blueprint and just see what needs replacing/modernizing in the design and then build it. Generations of infantrymen will merely exclaim, "Told you so".

Yes 40mm at last ,outstanding ////ex (XLH ) ADF ....J

That weight is comparable to the Sherman tank in the second world war

@aymonfoxc1442

Жыл бұрын

It's comparable with some MBTs...

Some things are too good to be true...

That what it say when warrior rolled out but others make it more better

Would appear the MOD are responsible for a multitude of changes as the programme. Too few companies manufacturing military vehicles. I would have gone German, they build vehicles that work!

@hardcorealf8684

Жыл бұрын

As the Boxer has now been purchased and will become the standard IFV, then go with the Rheinmetall lynx kf41 it has the modular build that they are looking for.

@davewarrender2056

Жыл бұрын

FFS we had a full fleet of recon vehicles , shoulda just upgraded/redesigned , instead of this

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@davewarrender2056 50+ years old vehicles though. some times a new vehicle has to enter service to keep up with the times.

@davewarrender2056

Жыл бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 I know that. But remember the saying , if it ain't broke don't fuck with it. They couldda upgraded engine , supercharged instead of turbo , therefore giving full power band at any revs , they could've redesigned all-sorts on the vehicle using modern materials , the cannon , couldda been fitted with gyroscopic gun control , as well as remote operation. This is the problem, Britain has a history of finding a weapons platform that works, and then running off and paying stupid money for a flash one , that is untested .REF: l85A1 , SLR , BREN LMG.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@davewarrender2056 its actually more like this: the uk decides on a "unique" way of doing stuff and continues to do it that way, even though general consensus, technical and physcial limitations etc clearly state that this way is one of the worst possible ways to do something. Then excuses and elaborate stories are invented to support this choice. this whole move costs the UK every time they do it. Look at the 120mm rifled. has been obsolete since 1978 (or one could say even since 1962). 25%-35% lower performence than contemporary 120mm smoothbores from rheinmetall, penetrator developement stagnates for the last 30 years. Excuse: but its more precise (it isnt) and it can fire HESH wich is better vs soft targets (HEAT-MP-FS does the same job and more for decades)

besides being bloody useless they are too big for what is needed, should have updated the scimitar. also they are almost as heavy as a tank and cost almost the same.

Just one "Lancet" inaugh.

What SHOCKED me is how often you use the word SHOCKED in your video titles. I'm SHOCKED the world is still turning what with so many SHOCKS happening all over the place.

@thearmouredpenguin7148

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's absolutely shocking how often "Shocked" is used.

Since, like a certain Norwegian Blue, this 'weapon system' is clearly dead. And not resting. We require alternatives. As a quick interim solution. The Cavalry could use horses. Already trialled and in use. Horses with chain mail could be used again instead of tanks and riders equipped with Javelins. (the missile, not the pointy stick. Do you think I'm being silly!!) The Artillery have also trialled horse systems and need only extend usage. RLC, Signals, REME etc will get the horse and cart option - slow but reliable. Mechanised infantry is tricky. Likely have to opt for speed over protection and utilise chariots. Unmechanised infantry will be issued shanks's pony. Since we seem to get tangled up in fracas in sand boxes, the military ought to develop Electric (Fighting) Vehicles over the long term. To replace horses. Probably best to give the development contracts to the Germans who seem to be able to produce things fit for purpose. Look at the VW Beetle and ignore the nasty early adopters in the 30's and 40's. Still in production almost a century later. Given the British Army likes to operate kit until it's literally falling apart and use for half a century or more. The Germans seem like the perfect fit. (This was a research collaboration between The Royal Hospital Chelsea and Shrivenham Military Research Centre of Excellence. All rights reserved.)

WOW, it doesn't work, and the UK is still supposed to pay for it??

everyone who does ride in them gets a shocking experience as i read it :D

Bushmaster Infantry Mobility Vehicles (IMVs) 24unitsare have be with The United Kingdom Special Forces (UKSF) 2008 so maybe they are looking to over Vehicles as a stop gap

@user-ru2yl2pj9x

Жыл бұрын

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Ajax is not a replacement for the FV10X series.

No it didn't. These things take decades to properly develop and get lots of advertising at big international events. So it's not shocking anybody.

"Ajax, formally known as the tracked SA80 Mk 1".....

I thought it was scrapped

It's costing the UK more and more, and the in-service date is constantly being put back. General dynamics SHITE!!!

I recommend to watch "the Pentagon war" ......

@zen4men

Жыл бұрын

You would have thought it would be required watching for those designing the AJAX program!

AJAX was binned as it makes the crew feel ill!

They're all shocked at how we could fuck up a half tidy platform,and make it more dangerous to it's crews than an enemy

So the MOD claims all of the problems have now been solved - but they woudl say that wouldn't they!

Surely the suspension only needs hardening ?

@razor1uk610

Жыл бұрын

it's not just the suspension, but the material specifications of the alloy its hull's made from, and the thicknesses of parts of it too - with that amount of vibrations, the material is too thin to dampen resonating vibrations within the structural material itself - its likely an aluminium alloy, that could well become very brittle with age/service life just like the USN's LCS's hull have caused them all to be stricken from the registers & scrapped.

wow

I was on the AJAX project a few years ago and it was doomed from the start. Too many different companies involved. One company making the Hull in Spain, the Turret by another in the U.K. na d the wiring and tech made in America. What a load of shite. Should have just gone with a CV90 off the shelf.

Biggest pile of shit the MOD have ever spent money on. How many CV90 variants would £32bn have bought?

From what I've heard it's a complete bag of spanners, and don't start on the cost of the bloody thing

That platform is based upon Spanish Pizarro vehicle, which works perfectly. I do not understand why this british prototype presents so many problems.

Surely you make a prototype, test it and improve it before you go into production?, the fact that they are continuing with production without receiving any more money from the MOD makes me think they know how to fix it externally. Either that or General Dynamics have completely lost their mind.

@user-ru2yl2pj9x

Жыл бұрын

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@benlongley9859

Жыл бұрын

I heard GD UK is going into liquidation

The only people truly shocked by that vehicle are the UK taxpayer and the soldiers forced to ride in it. This is just embarrassing, the vehicle is a testimony of military-industrial logic at its worst. So that thing towed 62 tons at a mass of mere 38 tons - impressive, I never thought that there could be such a thing as a ludicrously overpowered tracked military vehicle. I wonder whether the vibrations issue has something to do with that. I understand that this is probably due to the jack-of-all-trades approach with bridging engineers just facing different power requirements than mounted infantry in their line of tasks. Yet after all the industrial wars/arms races of the 20th century that lesson about jack-of-all-trades promising more bang for the buck (and sucking at it) has to be re-learned again? ;-)

Shocked the people inside it to apparently 🥴

It's not really British, it's made by General Dynamics - it's also too big to do what the CVRT used to do, too expensive and apparently it's so noisy and has so much vibration that it can harm the crew - all in all it's just a bit crap. Should have been scrapped long ago and the money put into CV90 which could also have replaced warrior and was what the army wanted. Instead we've got boxer and this thing, it might be okay in its other roles if they can fix its problems but it's not going to be good at reconaisance - whoever thought it was a good idea to use the same vehicle as a bridge carrier and recovery as well as reconaisance needs to be sacked. The cannon isn't important as its whole job is not to be spotted.

We should never have even entertained the idea of this project and gone and bought the CV90 family of vehicles instead.

UK government should be seeking recompense for this miserable lemon

'ajacks' lmao

The only thing that shocked the world is just how awful it is. General Dynamics should have to pay all of the money back.

I general dynamics, won't be paying any money back! No APC no money!

This thing is a donkey. Its supposed to be a "scouting" vehicle but it doesn't float, its slower than a main battle tank, and its so obnoxiously loud that they had to retro fit sound dampening, and issue special ear protection because it was deafening the crews and giving them traumatic brain injuries. The design philosophy seems to have been "can you make us a really terrible, incredibly slow tank with no cannon, that makes so much noise you can hear it coming from five miles away, AND can you write the word scout on the side just for lols" Modern commercial tractors drive faster than the Ajax....and they have a better view

Immer wieder die Überschriften, schockt die Welt. Die Welt ist geschockt. Its al so schocking.

It has a crew of two; commander, gunner and driver". What planet are you from? The USA?

Nice that the UK have bothered to think about upgrading their AFVs since the 80s (Spartan, Samaritan (?) Saracen, Scimitar, Scorpion etc)- when the media go on about the Russians using vehicles from the 80s/cold war. I recall pottering about in them in the late 80s. As hilarious as it is embarrassing. 24 years and nothing better?

Just admit it's a failure and go with the boxer armored vehicle and purchase some light tank later on:)

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I never understood why they wanted to replace an 8 ton flying machine of a scout tank with a 42 ton behemoth of an IFV. The regiments that use them don't carry infantry, they are fast cavalry, it's a bit nuts. Unless they want them to act as a battle taxi for spec ops and do and end run around behind the enemy dropping spec ops in their back but a 42 ton vehicle charging across the landscape is going to draw alot more attention than the previous scout SV. Surely a new scout SV could be around 25 tons with modern equipment and the same speed.

British required huge amount technology in the Ajax, so it's been complicated process