One of the things about your reviews (that you are probably not aware of) is that when something is not so great, you don't go on a rant about it but suggest how it could be better. Very positive and refreshing considering other reviewers out there who pounce on any negativity and hammer down on it.

Thank you. I have the MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk since last year and so far it has been flawless.

Thanks for comparing with the competitors as well.

Thank you for this excellent, high quality review of higher-end motherboards. I agree with your conclusions that if a person already has an LGA 1700 board, there isn't a need to upgrade either the boards or the processor to one of these. I do think your motherboard reviews help me feel much more prepared when the time comes for a new build. I would be willing to invest in a board you have reviewed. That is more adventurous for me than my previous efforts where I tried to stay with one vendor as much as possible. Thank you again for all your work and all that your team does. I would like to praise the consistently excellent videography and the well thought out arrangement of the set (the stage or set you conduct the filming on.) You must have a professional videographer on your team.

I've mostly used msi Tomahawks and Mortars in my builds. Never the fanciest, but always the best value. I do wish it had a few more quality of life inclusions, like the GPU release latch/button.

Thank you for the good information 😊🎉

I BIOS updated my Z690s but it's nice to know what features exist.

I went with the Tomahawk (non-max) specifically due to the back panel

ASUS ProArt Z790, with its 10 gigabit LAN port, offers superior bang for buck for those who value performance over RGB candy.

@shaolin95

5 ай бұрын

I love RGB but I got plenty of rgb so I don't need the mobo to have it. The Proart features are indeed above the rest.

My favorite MSI MEG Z790 Ace Max

@Rukiadiv13capt

23 күн бұрын

Expensive 🗿

E baš OVAJ video sam čekao, hvala! 😊

@mladenjovanovic9606

6 ай бұрын

Vreme za upgrade? da neces da se prenovis :)

@mladenjovanovic9606

6 ай бұрын

@@jontra08 sa 14900k sa 6ghz na svim jezgrima. mmmmmm..............

Nice videoo! Thanks for this review, Nada! That Ace Max mb is insane ^^

@TechTesters

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Wich one do ypu recommend for workstation, and apart for gsming and also both? Do you think ryzen 9 7950x is better for workstation? Nice video thnk you😊

Is there any plans on reviewing the MSI X670 Motherboards?

will you review MSI MPG Z790 CARBON MAX anytime soon?

Love your.channel Straight with out fanboy stuff Keep up the good work

thank you ❤

Hi could u tell me the difference between gaming plus and pro .

Great video. Which would you recommend out of the Tomahawk, Aorus Elite X and the TUF Gaming?

@TechTesters

6 ай бұрын

Depends on which features matter to you. They're all fine for typical gaming systems. I'd probably match the brand with my GPU brand, or pick the cheaper one :) (again, unless you really want a particular feature)

Thank you. 👏

@TechTesters

6 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

Nice! Want!

hello can you help me out built new pc but i cant get buy the windows connecct to internet i have tried shift f10 but i cant type in the cmd box keyboard not responding how can i get it working and how can i update the drivers for the wiffi or lan off the msi website i have them but can you install them from the bios screen PC Builder Reply

The second one is "MSI MPG Z790 EDGE TI MAX WIFI"

Msi pro Z790-a MAX Wi-fi 14. Gen ready ? Do I need a bios update?

I know manufacturing costs have risen, but I feel for these motherboard prices, I’d be at least expecting more PCI-E 5.0 m.2, the quick release GPU and m.2 latches, post code displays on all these motherboard models. I agree that the Edge Ti Wifi Max motherboard is waaaay over overpriced for what’s being offered over the Tomahawk Wifi Max!

tomahawk max has very bad fixator for m2 the rubber band at the bottom does not allow the drive to be installed properly

I buy this MSI tomahawk for my 14900k build is good mention something i didnt see also before i buy it no read small "letters" upper m.2 slot gen 5 is barely unuseabe because is cut main PCI slot for GPU make it x8 cut of 8 lines doesnt matter what gen nvme you put there. I put my nvme there and not see is cut by later open cpuz which was pretty awkward using RTX 4080 on x8 this is writed on MSI site but need read small letters.....so this slot can count for no existing..... unless use some low end card like 4060, using also nvme slot 3 cut of 2 sata ports make it 6 available not 8

@AdeM-kc7sc

6 ай бұрын

Did you notice any significant performance drop to your SSD or GPU after moving your SSD from the upper M2_1 slot to the lower M2_2 slot? I am thinking to buy this board, but it annoys me that the CPU's 4 PCIE lanes will be unused when the drive is installed through the chipset.

@Ukyo82

6 ай бұрын

@@AdeM-kc7sc is good motherboard they just made some cut off from chipset seems but is not advisable put nvme in slot 1 if you use x16 gpu gonna loose bandwidth and will feel drop on performance special on higher resolutions. Motherboard have 3 more nvme slots so is not end of the world but is good to this be mention. Otherwise this tomahawk got pretty good sound card don't no what it is exactly but my sound improve greatly from previous one

Hi Nada. You do such a great job reviewing PCs and components for me. After watching one of your videos, my wife asked if you could start a new channel reviewing appliances. Wow, that's a real compliment.

Leuk! Ik zat te wachten op de MSI 14th Gen Ready motherboards. Ik denk dat ik de Max wifi ga halen.

is there a product line with all the technical features, minus the usless gaming stuff like rgb .. also, its past time mobo have better audio dacs built in

@TechTesters

5 ай бұрын

MSI has the Unify, but that's pretty much it I think.

If I was to go with the msi meg Z790 ace max motherboard would it fit in a HYTE Y60 case?

@TechTesters

5 ай бұрын

I dont know how EATX looks in a y60. Might make cable management tricky.

I luv my Gaming Edge Z790. I think you're being a lil harsh with it. The one more M.2 slot for me makes all the difference and I luv the aesthetics , goes with my white build. MSI rocks. 😎

Hello ma'am, i have a question that no one answered yet, i asked everywhere and tried searching for it everywhere but nothing good found so far, i would like to know that since these boards are pcie switching when i install m.2 ssd in first slot then my pcie gen 5 x16 lane reduces to x8 lane which i kinda find very skeptical to whether buy these gen 5 ssd boards or stick with gen 4. In simple words if i install m.2 ssd in 1st slot and then run gpu in x8 lane does that impact my gpu? Will i lose performance? Will my gpu run in limitations? I know that pcie 5 is double in bandwidth of pcie 4 so 5 x8 lane would work exactly like 4 x16, but that 8 lane is not convincing me. I hope you would answer.

@TechTesters

5 ай бұрын

All these Z790 run the GPU in x8 with a (Gen5) SSD in the top slot. You'll lose maybe 1-2% of GPU performance though, not really a huge deal if you really need the M.2 Bandwidth.

@parassingh9835

5 ай бұрын

@@TechTesters thank you so much for replying and make it simple for me to understand, i already bought tomahawk max, and i barely saw any fps change.

6:56 I prefer the 2.5 over the 10 because the 10 is picky. It either accepts a full 10G connection or it downgrades itself to 1G only.

I bought the Z790 Ace Max!

@TechTesters

6 ай бұрын

Enjoy!

Hello which motherboard I should go for I just want performance I don't have budget problem so which one is the best ASUS Rog Maximus z790 dark hero vs. MSI meg z790 ace max

@synqFPS

6 ай бұрын

z790 nova

@gwrayka946

6 ай бұрын

@@synqFPS which brand is nova ?

@CaptainScorpio24

6 ай бұрын

go with a T eye ... its naturally faster .. will give you more fps 😉

@gwrayka946

6 ай бұрын

@@CaptainScorpio24are nishant bhai kya bol rahe kuch samaj nhi aa raha

@CaptainScorpio24

6 ай бұрын

@@gwrayka946 just a sarcastic take bro.. on Ti branding by tech manufacturers .. go with asus tuf z790 wifi . i have its z690 plus tuf wifi variant since 12th gen launch .

is there any news about the unify lineup will return? thanks

@TechTesters

5 ай бұрын

I will ask. Always liked those

@themeeksproject9785

5 ай бұрын

@@TechTesters thanks for your efforts

I think MSI save the 10G Ethernet for their Godlike boards

Cheapest one is the MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI.

I upgraded from the 9900KS and 3080Ti to the 14900K and 4090 using the Edge Ti Max Wifi. I'm a brand loyalist, so I had to stick with MSI. The Tomahawk was just too plain and the ACE was just too expensive for what it offers. The Ti Max Wifi is at least a pretty white that matches my new Hyte Y70. I shouldn't have to upgrade for at least another 5 years. 💖

I'm having real trouble with the "tool-less design" of the M.2_1 socket covers on the Ace Max. Out of 3 motherboards, only one cover was easily removable (push button, lift up slightly, then slide to the left to remove). With two of the motherboards, the covers would not lift up enough to slide the cover off. The mechanism is jamming, and I really do not want to force them since pulling too hard might damage the motherboard foil runs underneath. Why they didn't just use screws like I still need on all of the other M.2 socket covers is bewildering. I don't know if any of the other models using this design is having this problem, but I've already sent one motherboard back. The other one I'm using a gen 5 SSD in the M.2_5 socket, so I'm not using the M.2_1 socket. UPDATE: I just received a replacement motherboard from the online retailer I shipped the motherboard back to, and this 4th motherboard has the same problem with the M.2_1 socket cover not being able to be removed. I've been in contact with MSI tech support, and they say that they haven't heard from anyone else about this issue. 3 out of 4 ACE MAX motherboards that I've received since November have this problem, yet I'm the only one? Either they aren't selling many, or I'm very unlucky.

Is ASRock also in the pipeline?

@TechTesters

5 ай бұрын

No plans for ASRock atm, sorry.

I just ordered the MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI DDR5 ATX for 274.- and i am missing it here. It supports 14th gen and has all i need for even lower price, so i am missing it here.

@reinulf656

3 ай бұрын

How do you like it? Any issues? Crackling Audio by the Alc4080 or network issues of the Intel 226 Chip?

@usurpinesusanti3149

3 ай бұрын

@@reinulf656 works perfectly fine for me, no issues at all. There is imho no reason to waste more money on a "better" board.

Does the MSI ACE Z790 have USB4 port?

@TechTesters

6 ай бұрын

Not that I know of.

@ceuser3555

6 ай бұрын

@@TechTesters thanks. So they carried over the shortcoming of ace x670e

HI Lady :) Makes one wonder what the maximum performance increase would be compared to a midrange Z590 board from 2021. I think an overclocked midrange from 2021 would compare to a Z790 stockspeeds. Yet i can not deny the bottlenecks which cause the GPU RTX 40 series to throttle/break at highspeeds (75%). At stockspeed on a I5 11600k, this goes up to 25%. Which is a major drawback since one would not get the maximum out of their GPU performance. On top of that, the RTX4070TI is already its own bottleneck with a memory bandwidth of 192-bit instead of 384-bit. So all in all, with a i7 1470k, new DDR5 XMP2 or better with high frequency/lowest possible latency, PCIe 5 and the fastest M2 SSD you can get, performance increase should be quite noticeable across the board. Assuming water-cooling comes at hand so we can test it as its own max clock speeds within stable limits.

if only the MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk max comes with 10 Gbps lan it will be perfect. flawless

Only one thing I miss on lower tier motherboards and that is the postcode and if you dont own or know how to use a Phillips head screwdriver you should not build PC's

@TechTesters

6 ай бұрын

You'll need a screwdriver to install the motherboard anyway, but being able to add or change SSDs without the risk of losing those tiny and annoying ssd screws is so much nicer.

@willsutton54

6 ай бұрын

the latches are cheap and the chance of them breaking is high and the number of times I would have to screw them in is so low it doesnt matter . I had the plastic latch in the CM700 break and send a huge rad onto my motherboard so definitely prefer screws.

ok so we r also getting a T Eye or Tie in tge motherboards as well 😂

its disgusting u need to pay EXTRA for 2 digit error display thats outrageous . z70 back in 2013 form msi had 150 euro and had everything on ... now u pay quatriple the price and still not even close... i paid 350 euro 2 years ago for msi carbon z590 now tomahawk has that price... i think what manufacturers are doing is following the GPU market in terms of ridicilus prices.

''and you probably don't need a new cpu either'' 😉👍👍

im happy with my strix z790 e gaming wifi 🙂

@TechTesters

5 ай бұрын

Lovely board, enjoy!

Motherboard prices are insane.

😒👍 pickup the boards that have a digital readout

👍👍❤️❤️❤️

😊

You skipped the best board , the carbon max

Apart from amazon, where else do pc enthusiasts in NL satiate their desire for PC hardware? 🤔

😁😁😁👍👍👍

we pick the one who can run 8000 ram

Don't forget to LIKE the video

The Z790 Ace max is not MSI's Highest end board the godlike max is

MSI CARBON MAX >???

Why would you go for Intel,nowadays?

I'm the First Viewer

@TechTesters

6 ай бұрын

Well done :D

@saadiasahim1812

6 ай бұрын

​@@TechTesters 🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪

Can't trust any other brand, MSI are the leaders in motherboard technology, MSI Software also leaves ASUS and Gigabyte for dead.

@wherearemytesticles

6 ай бұрын

Afterburner isn't made by MSI btw...

@TheGioiAmNhacVideo

6 ай бұрын

not really

@shaolin95

5 ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅 delusional. MSI is a joke compared to Asus

@stumpusMaximus

5 ай бұрын

I’ve had an ASUS ROG Maximus V Gene, along with an i5-3570K for 11 years!- I use it ever weekend with hundreds of Steam,GoG,UBi,Origin,Epic games In my second PC. 100% rock solid without ***ONE*** issue in those years. Come back when you’ve had hardware that is still going as long as that. Win 7 to Win 10. Honestly people just open their mouths and let their belly rumble if not it comes out their butts…. This is what ASUS had as STANDARD back then that MSI only do on Zboards and NOT on B boards. Cheapskates.. “On top of this there are a couple of extra features that are new to the Maximus V Gene, such as USB BIOS Flashback, which is a natty little feature that allows you to flash the EFI (despite the name of the technology) with only the board, a USB stick and a working PSU. You don’t even need a CPU or RAM installed in the board, which is as amazing as it is eerie.” Over 11 YEARS AGO Don’t forget that.