My university teacher couldn't explain this subject in 2 hours but this man did in 14 minutes!! Incredible.

@TheJo201

8 ай бұрын

For Real

It’s a great day when one comes across such a compelling, insightful, concise, and articulate teacher of philosophy and religious history. I finally can begin wrapping my head around Gnosticism. John Vervaeke, Wes Cecil and now Mr. Darkwaterhermit! Thank you for all your work, Sir

@darkwaterhermit

Жыл бұрын

That was really kind. I’m glad you enjoyed it. I have full courses on my playlists

It is so interesting that there are striking parallels between Gnosticism and Hinduism. Brahma, the creator god, created the Universe, but before doing so he was tainted by lusting after his daughter. And thus, everything in the material world is tainted. Shiva and Vishnu are the other 2 members that along with Brahma make up the Hindu triumvirate. However, Shiva and Vishnu are strictly in the domain of spirit/non-material. And so, every Hindu (every human really), because they are a direct product of Brahma, must help Brahma return to the non-material domain/become untainted, so he can be alongside Shiva and Vishnu once more. They do this by rejecting the material world and remembering their spirit nature. So we have strong parallels with Gnosticism. Brahma is definitely a demiurge type of concept. In addition, a core concept in Hinduism is of Maya: the teaching that the physical world is an illusion and an obstacle to enlightenment (moksha). That are true selves was not of Maya, but of the higher spirit realm.

Very concisely taught, no waffling. Nice!

I wish I had teachers like you in my lifetime

This was such a a good summary of this topic thank you for this

This was a great concise summary of complex concepts !

seriously awesome class! Thanks for posting!

This was totally amazing I had just come to Know About NeoPlatonism

Amazing! Except for that rude woman in the background who constantly chirps and then, at the end, really yawns so loud I'm surprised the poor speaker didn't kick her out of his class. Thank you for this wonderful lecture

@user-fb8ee7ec8e

3 жыл бұрын

Would it be college without attention seeking, obnoxious young women?

@falayyou

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fb8ee7ec8e best comment here

Really interesting from depth and clarity, thank you for even attempting to learn this. People most often appear to structure these in terms of power hierarchies - is it necessary also to delineate ethical hierarchies running alongside to balance power and virtue? Also does this mean animals have no soul?

This seems like a classic example of giving Christian Gnosticism a fair enough explanation, so a blatant straw-man critique(to me) slips by unnoticed… The Gnostics, at least according to the Nag Hammadi Library, did not believe Christ was ‘possessed’ by the Monad(God). Jesus was understood as an ‘emanation’ of the Monad, an ‘Aeon’. Think of how one zygote divides and creates twins…Something akin to that. It was also far from unanimous that Christ was a ‘phantom’, and a great deal of Gnostic sects maintained that: ‘Jesus is identified…as an embodiment of the supreme being who became incarnate to bring gnosis to the earth.’ Also, the idea that the Gnostics thought material bodies were evil, end of, is such a misrepresentation of what they thought. They believed bodies were prisons that entrapped a person’s divine essence. It’s was an observation, not a moral condemnation. Just as an actual prison is no more evil than an inanimate knife, or gun. It’s the creator of the prison that’s immoral, the Demiurge, not the prison itself. Based on the Latin slides, I’ll assume it’s a Catholic-centric lecture. Why is it every time a Catholic figure discusses Christian Gnosticism do they set up a radically simplistic, unrepresentative uber-dualist straw-man? Because it makes it easier to discredit Gnostic teachings, maybe? It’s worth noting that concepts such as ‘heresy’, and ‘orthodoxy’, did not exist in Christianity until the Church invented them. Specifically to counter the threat to religious hegemony that came from the spread of Gnostic teachings, with their lack of need for a religious middle-man. To reinforce this point, the Church saw enough value in Gnostic teachings to eventually adopt them for the cloistered priest-class, whilst simultaneously ‘crusading’ the proponents of those ideas out of existence. Vow of Celibacy: A Gnostic idea first.

“Pretty trippy” stellar info!

Great explanation.

Holy shit! That was an amazing 15 mins! Unbelievably enriching and concise. The Gnostics were/are fascinating. I could listen to this man all day!!

@darkwaterhermit

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, that was quite the compliment. Glad you enjoyed it.

@commissar5851

Жыл бұрын

​@@darkwaterhermitdo you have a whole lecture series on thos topic? I'm fascinated by the early churches and how different they are from Christianity today. This video was so illuminating. I've come back to it a couple of months later as it's stayed with me. So much information in such a short space.

@darkwaterhermit

Жыл бұрын

@@commissar5851 I do have entire courses in my playlists, but I don't think I have one on church history specifically

Great summary

Hello, can you help me and suggest some books on philosophy and religion? Thanks

SQS channel helped me understand gnosis more

Yahweh in Gnostic texts is only one of the hypostases of Yaldabaoth, this is his "bot", figuratively speaking. The attitude to the serpent among the Gnostics was also different, judging by the texts from Nag Hammadi. The radical dualism of most versions of Gnosticism is very similar to the views of the Neo-Pythagorean Numenius of Apomea.

@Anthropomorphic

2 жыл бұрын

Right, I think there's a text that essentially treats different Old Testament names for "God" as distinct entities.

So the Question is how Did the Demiurge get into and know the mind of God???

Have you looked at Christopher Jon Bjerknes work? Very interesting

Super interesting! First time I’ve seen a video from you. I have a question to this scripture. “But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:28-30‬ ‭ Are you saying that this desire is or isn’t being acted upon? Jesus to me sort of gives you the reality that because it starts in the mind and goes to the heart, if this isn’t dealt with then it will seep out into your members, exactly where Paul was in Romans 7. I’m not sure if I’m asking a good question or not? Haha. God bless!

I feel like most people talking about Gnosticism can’t actually grasp and articulate it. This guy nailed it.

@darkwaterhermit

Жыл бұрын

thank you, I was just trying to give an impression, the "gnostics" are diverse and complex

In the version I read, God was known as Abraxis and the demiurge was Yaldebauth

@munkabatasza5019

3 жыл бұрын

Thats from the Apocryphon of John, I believe and is part of one of the many iterations of Gnosticism; what is today called Sethian Gnosticism

@wantanamera

Жыл бұрын

Not really. Mention of Abraxas comes from Basilides which believed that there where 365 planes of existence below the pleroma each with their own archon. Yaldabaoth is the archon of the lowest plane (our plane) while Abraxas is the archon of the highest plane. Abraxas is referred to as the “Great Archon”. But they are both different from the “unknowable father” (God of the pleroma).

How do I take your class?!

@darkwaterhermit

3 жыл бұрын

jennifer haslinger i teach at San Diego Christian College and will be teaching 8 week online versions of both Metaphysics and Philosophy of Origins and Ethics in the Fall. Or you can watch the entire course playlists on my KZread channel for free. Glad you enjoyed this one. Classes start Monday but you could still enroll.

@jenniferhaslinger5983

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I can’t stop watching this class. You’re a wonderful teacher :)

Interestingly enough, some of the Gnostics took a "tantric" turn, viewing sexuality as a way to free themselves from the powers and principalities. I think the Gospel Of Philip in particular underlines the importance of sacramental marriage and the "wedding chamber" as a vehicle of spiritual liberation. Of course, it's hard to know to what degree it's supposed to be understood literally or poetically.

@user-ov8qv3hp9d

Жыл бұрын

False. A true gnostic knows the true meaning of sex which is inner and not outer. A true gnostic will completely stop having physical sex, even to completely deny the so called family which is the biggest trap of the spirit

@Anthropomorphic

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ov8qv3hp9d I think this might be a matter of descriptive versus prescriptive statements.

What does it mean to return to God or unite with God ? Does it mean we become God in a pantheistic sense ?

@kirkyone1

3 жыл бұрын

return to the source its a timeless place where anything is possible god is not a being its a place i call it the construct

@jacobpodolsky2649

3 жыл бұрын

Theosis

neat

Fun Fact: Nag Hammadi Library? There's an app for that.

@darkwaterhermit

Жыл бұрын

how cool is that, thanks for letting me know

That was what ahkenaten did with the sundisk. In the early monotheism. The sun is shining for us but we worship man made gods

I think John Lamb Lash would disagree with a lot of what you're saying

yo chappie im the One thats going to take us back to the source i think we should talk

True gnosis naturally leads to antinatalism

I am beginning to strongly suspect Jesus was influenced by both western and eastern philosophies heavily.

Evil does not necessarily mean bad. The Lord says I form the light and created darkness. I created good and evil. (paraphrased). Evil is merely a state. I could say a base state. Dead material that needs to go through the process of alchemy.

Do you mean animals have no spirit?

@darkwaterhermit

3 жыл бұрын

I am not teaching my views but it is my understanding that Neoplatonists do not believe anything below humans have souls or spirits. I certainly do 😎

@u-shanks4915

2 жыл бұрын

The myth of er opens a new can of worms

@user-ov8qv3hp9d

Жыл бұрын

The body is an aspect of the soul (subconscious, registered memory of physical experiances) but the spirit is the perfect self that was trapped to create the soul. The body is designed to die but the soul needs to be crucified back to the spirit (gnosis) if we are ever to leave the material realm.

Your genealogical chronology is questionable. Ammonius Saccus died in the mid 3rd century and Gnostics had been around from the second half of the 1st. Doubtless there was mutual influence/conflict later, but you give the impression that the originating Gnostics were dependant on Neoplatonism.

@darkwaterhermit

3 жыл бұрын

Good correction, and I have a question. Is that Lundy Lake on your youtube home page ?

@polemeros

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkwaterhermit Probably Weir Lake, really a large pond below South Lake, which is about 20 miles above Bishop. Those alpine areas high up in the Sierras are magically beautiful.

Any thoughts on the theory that Jesus was a psychedelic mushroom?

@EmmaGodLovesTruth95

3 жыл бұрын

How does that make any sense.... I've tripped many times and never spoke to Jesus during a mushroom trip. I was then saved much later on. Jesus was obviously a person he spoke and had a human body. Read the bible. Mushrooms don't teach real spiritual information... They just make you feel connected and spiritual etc.

@Jacob-fd9nm

2 жыл бұрын

@@EmmaGodLovesTruth95 "But now a great thing in the street Seems any human nod, Where shift in strange democracy The million masks of God." Mushrooms might reveal that you are born of God just as well. Or they might not.

Europeans will always love and create multiple Gods like they made a God out of Jesus which is unique in human history. That's why Jesus will return. He'll return because of these so called Christians.