"All you ever did was fall out of her womb." Holy shit, Nemesis 💀

@Hamstir4

28 күн бұрын

I had to give Nem that one ^

Interesting that Hecate specifically cites Eris as one of Nyx's rebellious daughters. As the goddess of Discord, I'm sure she's having an absolute field day during this current crisis.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Ohoho, I'm sure the same is for Ares.

@maylp1

Ай бұрын

i bet eris and ares giving cronos allys pure tatarus at the frontlines maybe eris brought her daughters the Machai with her.

Melinoē : That's awful... Nemesis: That's life. Me: That's bullshit!

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

The delivery of that exchange was impeccable.

she's going to make you work to win her over. my antagonist-to-rival-to-friend-to-more will bear fruit and it will be perfect.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

The development would be very satisfying.

@lunerblade13

Ай бұрын

I find with things stopping at friend. People see her as Mel’s Megaera but she’s more like Alecto.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

@@lunerblade13 I could see that. I do find it interesting here is that we'll see Mel's full development between Nem and Moros, while Zag appeared to have already have a pre-existing relationship prior to the game.

@lunerblade13

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 another thing worth noting is that Mel doesn’t have her brothers chill. She is prone to more abrasive confrontation with nemesis

@falconeshield

Ай бұрын

I wonder if Mel will have more to choose from than just the ex, the pining, and the platonic options.

A lot of folks pegged Nem as the Megaera analog of Hades 2...But based on this and depending on how things go, I think she might be more like for Mel what Hades was for Zag.

@StarryxNight5

Ай бұрын

What do you mean by this?

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Y'know, I felt this too. I think the relationship between Mel and Nem is different from Zag and Meg if you ask me. It could still work, but the develop looks rough since Nem views Mel as a lapdog to Hecate.

@Bears5056

Ай бұрын

​@Hamstir4 i mean, the relationship between zag and meg was super rough too. Zag just had a more charismatic personality of sorts. But it did improve over time

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

@@Bears5056 it’s interesting because I don't recall if Hades 1 went into details between Zag and Meg, only that Zag screwed up and hurt her. The conflict between the two was personal and Zagreus apologized. The conflict between Nem and Mel are quite different in that they clash in ideology. If Nem and Mel were going to work, they'd have to agree on a few things or two. Which could happen and has already kinda happened. Mel went to Hecate and stated she worked hard too.

@lunerblade13

Ай бұрын

If I could be honest nemesis to Mel is more like Alecto then megaera, someone who will always be on Mel’s case and will take the entire game just to get a respectful compromise out of the two.

One thing's for sure, Nemesis doesn't hold her tongue

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

And we love her for that. popcorn munches*

She says it in the most asshole way possible but she does have a point about Hecate sending Mel on foot alone. That's kinda hm. Actually she makes a lot of good points

@visionofsolace8961

Ай бұрын

Mel does sound like the perfect distraction to keep Kronos busy, she is incapable of properly dying.From Hecate's point of view, I don't think she currently expects of Mel to truly deal the finishing blow.But she does expect from Kronos to use his powers to try and stop her, meaning that by keeping the big ol' scythe sociopath busy, the gods have another advantage point in their stake against the Titans! Also, she would perhaps reveal their hideout if she magically transported her in the middle of Kronos' forces.

@aolremembers9450

Ай бұрын

@@visionofsolace8961 other interactions in the tech test suggest that his attacks on Olympus are odd and actually are distracting him from looking at Mel. In the tech test, Mel never enters his radar

@visionofsolace8961

Ай бұрын

@@aolremembers9450 so it's the other way around, she is sneaking up on the enemy behind his lines, btw what I meant is, as we progress, Hecate will be more sure that Mel can kill Kronos again, but I think, considering that he is reffered to as time itself, we will have to kill him, many, many times.

@aolremembers9450

Ай бұрын

@@visionofsolace8961 "As we progress" we the audience know this, as we know we're playing a video game and that's inevitable. The characters don't, however. For all they know Mel could spend another 1000 years stuck in Erebus or in the next section. Heck, Artemis points out that Olympus doesn't think she has a chance at winning. It doesn't change Nem's point however. Nemesis is all about retribution - consequences come to you cause you did something(s) to invoke them. Mel in all senses - did nothing to invoke such consequences. Unlike Hecate who failed (hence Nem's argument with her) or Nem herself cause it's her job, Mel's only "crime" was being born to Hades and Pesephone. What did she do to deserve dying a billion times to get a shot at fighting Chronos, which to the characters, she might not even win? Why does she have to bear this struggle, and alone at that? Not saying I agree with Nem's POV (it's obvious she doesn't have the faith in Mel's capabilities the way Hecate does) but it's a fascinating insight into a very contrarian character and it proves she's not just simply a Hater, but coming from a certain POV

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Right, she wouldn't have a reason to exist if her POV was false. and I wouldn't be surprised if Nemesis would have specific dialogues addressing what you said. Ofc, the players are aware of the nature of the game, but when Mel and Nemesis find out the Task involved repeatedly slaying Chronos time and time again, the question does arise, Does Mel deserve this? and I have a feeling Hecate knew Mel would be held captive to this Task forever.

So Hecate's basically their babysitter

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Reluctantly, yes lol

the way eris was talked about makes me hopeful she'll make an appearance

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Hmmmm! Would Supergiants be overambitious for this? Don't know don't care. However, if you ask me, I think it's Supergiant's way of saying she'll be MIA going about. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat.

@averymetagal

Ай бұрын

​@@Hamstir4 Get your hat seasoning

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

@@averymetagal I just knew how cooked I was.

@WaterCanoe

29 күн бұрын

She did appear!

@Hamstir4

29 күн бұрын

@@WaterCanoe I know everybody! Stop making me look silly! AH-

It is funny how for her Hypnos interaction she really wants to see him wake up just to see Mel realize how he actually is

@Hamstir4

23 күн бұрын

It would be a helluva reaction lol

Wow..... she's just like my damn uncle. Not being afraid to say things how they are and not giving a single f**k. And I love that about her.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Same, she gets sat down here by Hecate. But I predict as the story goes on, Nemesis may score some points here and there.

@jurtheorc8117

21 күн бұрын

You may like Pseudo from Clash: Artifacts of Chaos and Cherry from Cookie Cutter. Both games from 2023 with protagonists who speak their mind and just get out there to get things done. Both are *very* strong artistically with solid gameplay, but Cookie Cutter is a lot more bloody and brutal. Clash: AoC is a bit more grounded, but kind of like if a Dark Crystal-type world was a martial arts movie.

Can’t wait for Hecate interactions

Definitely a lot meaner than Meg but just as hot... bet we'll learn a lot more on release but here's hoping she wins me over like Moros definitely has Edit: Hypnos getting called beautiful is the fanservice that I need, or in Nem's terms, what I deserve. Wonder if Mel will be just as awed when he finally interacts with her

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Hypnos would've blushed if he was awake to hear him described as such. Everyone's anticipation when Nem said, "When".

@sorrychangedmyusername3594

29 күн бұрын

Meg is a passionate ball stepper while Nemesis the queen of cock and ball torture.

@-MelodyMoment-

25 күн бұрын

nemesis is meg if she was epic

@Hamstir4

25 күн бұрын

@@-MelodyMoment- Whoa there, I like Nemesis, but was Meg not epic?! most people used her aid because she was epic.

@-MelodyMoment-

25 күн бұрын

@@Hamstir4 nemesis just does the "dommy mommy" trope way better than meg does it

nobody gets her like i get her

@playheavens

Ай бұрын

REAL

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Nemesis definitely coming to take you both.

I think one of the most interesting things is when Nem talks about Chronos. I think its fascinating to see how Nem is so sympathetic towards Mortals while Meli is incredibly dismissive towards them. Considering how the Olympic gods have been consistently awful to mortals... Maybe Nem isn't entirely wrong to wonder if they deserve this.

@Hamstir4

23 күн бұрын

That dialogue hit me the most, I had to pause there, unexpected how self-aware Nemesis was here. We could say she’s sympathetic, more specific to deserving mortals, but her hobby is sniffing out and crushing the “bad” mortals. Passionate was a word I was thinking for her ^ I’m curious how much he says about the Golden age were true. Hecate implies it’s a lie, but Nemesis claims the intent might’ve been genuine.

I love a good enemies-to-lovers pipeline. Hope our guesses are right and Supergiant makes her romanceable.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

I would enjoy the developments along the way, and we know the writers know what we want lmao

@falconeshield

Ай бұрын

And Mel isn't spineless either. Nemesis seems to love blaming what happened to her own family to both Hecate and Mel's backstory.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

@@falconeshield Right, I'd love to watch Nem learn what happened in real time with us.

thank you so much for posting this!! i saw your other interactions video and was waiting for nemesis 🙏

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your patience Caacker and you're welcome!

Gee I sure hope these two decide to make out eventually.

@Sifya

Ай бұрын

100%mel is showing as she is zag sister, they have same taste;strong work orientated women and they look like they can kill but they are cinnamon

She is the definition of "I can fix her" for guys

@Hamstir4

28 күн бұрын

I think Nemesis would put the guys in their place.

@dylanr3733

28 күн бұрын

@Hamstir4 bet those guys would love it too. Damn simps................ .........aka me

@Hamstir4

28 күн бұрын

@@dylanr3733 LOL I see you Dylan.

I not only love ❤️ Nemesis but also love ❤️ the nine Muses, Nike, Eunomia, Eirene, and Phaenna.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

I know very well your love runs deep for Nemesis Tuan haha. Interesting you bring up the 9 Muses!

@tuantran4880

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 Please don't forget about Nike, Eunomia, Eirene, and Phaenna.

@tuantran4880

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 1:08 I wonder what happened to her father, mother, and younger brother?

@tuantran4880

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 Melinoe is a Goddess of Ghosts and Princess of the Underworld. She was born at the mouth of Cocytus, one of the rivers of the underworld, while her mother was sleeping on the riverbank and Hermes in his underworld aspect as psychopomp was stationed. Hermes kept the souls of Cocytus in a state of stability as the birth of Melinoe was causing the dead to experience madness and lucidity due to her being a goddess of ghosts whilst Hecate aided in Melinoe’s delivery. Melinoe was born after her older sister Macaria and before her younger brother Zagreus. Also, she has her eyes are Black Voids. Melinoe is a combination of her parents, so she is said to have a mysterious and sad appearance like a combination of both, which means she has black and white hairs. Her left side is her black dark, cold-hearted, and the coldness of the underworld from her father Hades when Melinoe cold-hearted and doesn’t talk too much with her older sister Macaria because Melinoe said that she is a virgin deity that mean she never married. And for her right side is her white light, kind-hearted, and the warm beauty of spring flowers from her mother Persephone when she loves her little younger brother Zagreus because Melinoe promised to her parents that she has to protect and take care of Zagreus. Moreover, Melinoe is the goddess who accepted sacrifices offered to the ghosts of the dead and capturing escaped souls back to the Underworld.

@tuantran4880

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 5:35 Talking about Eris. It reminds me about Harmonia because without Harmonia, I was wondering what happened if evil Goddess Eris cause discord and chaos again, who is gonna stop her to prevent the discord and chaos, and then turn the world becomes concord, harmony, and order?!

I love their dynamic

@Hamstir4

27 күн бұрын

They're one of my top favorites! Nemesis is so good.

I actually really like her so far

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

LOL i read your original comment. You're secret is safe with me. and I like her too, she has some of the best dialogue.

@italoa.9168

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 i was like nah lemme make a real comment for once lol

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

@@italoa.9168 you had me wheezing

She has such a hater energy, hope she gets a cool character arc

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Her character is already quite compelling. She comes off as mean or a hater, but she's mostly calling out the bs. We can't depend on the Fates and not much progress has happened over the years. I think her character will elevate further if a lot of her points are proven right.

@falconeshield

Ай бұрын

I'm veery curious about her whole backstory.

Together we shine, Hamstir

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Together we shine, Starcrumb. (wait what a fitting username)

LETS GOOOOO

PLEAAAASE do Odysseus interactions after this! I love him so much

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Hmmm, I think you can wait a little longer mwuahaha.

I'm getting exes vibes here Edit: Okay, not exactly exes, but rivals. Still getting the *vibes*

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

I don't think you're entirely wrong here. There's def some tension, and enough material for the ships lmao. But I don't think its fully developed yet.

I'm surprised denying nectar is now a mechanic

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

The game being meta with how we often gift nectar

So Eris is gonna be in this game. Sweet! They were setting that up in the last game with Ares and Nyx. Edit: HOLD UP FOLKS! I think I may have mixed some gods up. Need to fact check some things as I may have led y’all astray.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Fr? I must've missed it in Hades 1. Perhaps I am going to eat my hat after all.

@couragew6260

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 Oh yeah, if you do a quick search on KZread, you’ll find clips here and there of Ares wanting Zagreus to pass some messages on to Nyx. The wiki also has some things worth mentioning

@couragew6260

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 Scratch that! I may have mixed up my gods. Need to do some fact checks

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

@@couragew6260 I recall the exchange between Ares and Nyx which I thought was cute, because Zagreus went defensive for her in case he went for any uninvited advancements. I’m all for Eris wreaking havoc. We’re missing a Chaos stand-in. Where is Chaos btw?!

I honestly kinda like how Nemesis points out that Chronos' rule was better for humans and how she contemplates how it might be just retribution for the Gods to be subjugated by him. I mean, considering all the atrocities the gods are responsible for putting humanity through, even if it's just specific humans to sparking entire wars, they do deserve some retribution in turn for what they've made people suffer through.

@Hamstir4

5 күн бұрын

I agree with this take ^ assuming Chronos's Golden Age was truly better for mortals, Nem has some moral conflict going on. Chronos has done awful things, but the gods had their fair share of sins too. Nem is in a tight predicament.

She definitely does remind me a lot of Meg I guess it might be because of the sultry ness in her voice. Plus she seems like a very serious type of woman. Definitely what Meg was. They took both their jobs very seriously. And neither of them had a really close relationship with their siblings.

@Hamstir4

28 күн бұрын

She has a lot of similarities to Meg ^ I think where she differs, she honors Nyx specifically, rather than the House. Meg was very obedient under Hades and Nyx, who wouldn't even strike Hades if Zag would call for her aid initially. I believe Nemesis would go out of her way disobeying orders if she found it more productive.

Anybody notice certain characters you meet are wielding weapons zagreus used in the last game. Nemesis is using a sword zag used.

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

You're right that it's from the last game. One of Zag's sword can become the Aspect of Nemesis, it's highly likely Nemesis reclaimed her sword back.

oh man she's so......

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

You'd have to get in line with that thought.

@verity_amo

Ай бұрын

@@Hamstir4 I will fight if I have to

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

@@verity_amo hmm! Your chances might’ve just bumped up!

@falconeshield

Ай бұрын

Tough. It's too soon to judge. She has great gains though.

@verity_amo

Ай бұрын

@@falconeshield that's all I need broski

god nemesis is so hot

@Hamstir4

6 күн бұрын

She is! Her voice does it for me.

16:36

@Hamstir4

26 күн бұрын

The extra exchanges were delivered so well ^ sibling dynamic haha

@MV96_

26 күн бұрын

@@Hamstir4 Nem, dear, he was just finished explaining he’s ambivalent about deciding things for others and you say “speak for yourself”

11:34 SHE COULD WHAT

@Hamstir4

15 күн бұрын

A hypothetical! However, my money's on Hecate.

If she's one of the love Interests in this game I'm not rizzing her up

@Hamstir4

Ай бұрын

Valid

@falconeshield

Ай бұрын

It's fair. That's the beauty of role playing.