I like how Chaos is holding their own head from the previous game, with what seems to be a new version of them coming from it. Plus Chaos' new look and outfit are killing it. Really nails the fact to that they are both male and female and also neither male nor female. Plus the fact that there seem to be 3 Chaos in the image (The old look, the new look, and the infant) makes me think that Chaos must be constantly changing through some strange cosmic death and rebirth. Which is perfect for a being who is literally entropy.

Chaos sounds like a scientist observing and interacting with an experiment.

@teshindax3683

Ай бұрын

Did he always sound like that?

@lunerblade13

Ай бұрын

@@teshindax3683he always sounded like an outside observer away from everyone but a part of everything.

@doubt3430

Ай бұрын

that is pretty much correct hes stated that himself

@someoneawesome8717

Ай бұрын

They are powerful beyond the concept of gender, not a "he"

@Broomer52

Ай бұрын

@@lunerblade13 he says as much he made the world to see what would happen when life sprouted forth, would things end badly or well? What events would transpire before the end? Who would be immortalized and what would be made? A creator God who never had an end goal in mind, just an interest in how it would all play out.

Chaos: Don't mind me, just holding the severed head and spine of my previous form that is currently regurgitating an embryo. Nothing to see here.

I like to think that Chaos's appearance changes based on the state of the world or how much 'chaos' there is. He appeared monstrous in the first game because things were peaceful and he didn't have as much 'power', or more accurately, didn't have to EXERT as much power. But since Chronos came along and mucked up the world so badly by messing up the balance of life and death, the world, the underworld and Olympus are LITERALLY in utter chaos, thus giving him more power and allowing himself a more 'regal' form. It could even be a situation where, since the world is so messed up thanks to Chronos, he's had to genuinely get serious in God knows how long and, just like the new sprites of the Gods on Olympus, this is sort of his 'war armour'. Also headcannon that the old face he's holding is literally his old body, like he shed off his skin from the previous game like an exoskeleton and that's what he's holding. And the fetus attached to the skin represents Nyx, as she is his child aka his 'baby' and it also appears to have the Darkness gem that's associated with her. It's 'asleep' thanks to what Chronos did to her. As for why he looks like Maegara, I honestly have no idea, but maybe it has something to do with how the Titan's ALSO came from Chaos, and his appearance was passed down to Maegara and the furies as they're like, his graddaughters or something. Who knows.

@banned2911

Ай бұрын

Maybe chaos looks like meg to make zag happy i dunno

@Vinegar436

Ай бұрын

You make some interesting points, but you confused the 2 definitions of chaos: the lack of order and the Primordial Chaos. In Greek mythology, Primordial Chaos is the "raw" reality - like clay that you use for pottery, except instead of pots you make gods and universes. It is quite disorienting, but it is not related to disorder or disorganization, nor are those things the domain of the deity Melinoë talks with. Chaos (the being) actually mentions it in the first game when talking about Ares: "He still worships me, you know; yet, I would say he does not know me very well" Ares is the one who invokes anarchy, confusion and havoc. The war and the chaos on Olympus would empower him, not the Primordial.

@mobgas

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the why he look like magearna just confused me

@awesome118-smmo

Ай бұрын

I think the head represents death and rebirth - the core of the rougelike genre.

I feel like the nature of Chaos' concept prevents anyone from having any criticism on their design. Any criticism can be countered by saying that it's Chaos, it's supposed to look wrong, etc... Personally I'd rather something less "defined" than this design, but whatever.

@bokarndiaye323

Ай бұрын

I don't know if I would have thought the design fitting on its own, but I think it works really well if you take in in context of the first one. Chaos holding a shell of their former self is a great way to trigger a mix of surprise and familiarity when we meet them for the first time in Hades II. It remains androgynous as the first design: the two new additions are the long white blouse (which calls to attention that Chaos is running an experiment), and the long mane of hair (like with Moros, I assume it indicates ties with Fate and the Fates). My main point of dislike is that the Earth globe they were holding is now an earring, which is a bit... meh. Doesn't bring enough attention to the idea that the world is just a tiny playtoy in Chaos' hands.

Interesting that Chaos helped with Chronos and his takeover (if inadvertently). Also I'm *sure* we're going to find out in the full version that there's a reason Chaos looks so much like Meg.

@blosfora

Ай бұрын

I think he's more like the Nyx. Maybe it was the restoration of their little father-daughter family that had an effect on him. Something like he became closer to this world and took on a more suitable appearance.

@a_KattyCorn

Ай бұрын

I honestly think chaos and meg design similarities are purely coincidental, but I do think it’s interesting that chaos took on a more humanoid form. Is it because the influence, Zag and Nyx had on them? They already seem so curious about their “experiment” perhaps their form reflects that somewhat, being more connected to their world.

@Broomer52

Ай бұрын

Chaos can look however they want. He’s holding the head of his appearance in the first game and a baby version of himself is sprouting from the mouth, sometimes Chaos even refers to themself as if they were more than one person and then refers to themself as a singular person. Chaos is formless.

@themushroominside6540

Ай бұрын

Chronos merely asked and Chaos merely responed in earnest. To chaos, they expected nothing from chronos, not even malice nor the sembelnce of a deal to be made. They embrace curiosity and novelty, they are perhaps the only known being to know exactly where the fates may reside for they are able to act on fat whether they like it or not. One can ask the very secrets of the entire universe, and Chaos shall grant it to you without question. The cost of being given the secrets of the universe merely lies in ones own limits, it could take eons for them to finish or gor you to comprehend, eons of information could suddenly be transfered into your mind causing you to go mad, the awnser could be ridiculous simple or otherwise seen as an elaborate joke and the resulting realization/embarrassment of it all would certainly be amusing to chaos. It is said that the abrahamic god in a similar manner held creation for himself by merely asking for it from Chaos, giving him omnipotence whilst spliting him into three. Infinite power in the immortal alchemist, infinite knowledge in the incorperal ghost, and infinite compassion in the mortal child.

A lot of people are giving their ideas for the drastic design change. Personally, I see it as him observing himself. His previous form was created simply to HAVE form. But he seems to be a perfectionist in nature- or perhaps this form is just as chaotic and alien as any other to him, and he did not take it in order to blend in, or because he necessarily believed it necessary. He takes this form because in the sprawling, infinite Chaos of All, a feminine male(I know gender doesn’t really matter this so just how I describe them) in a dapper white and gold suit is no less chaotic then anything else. Perhaps what we see as normalcy is mearly a pattern, when in reality all that is normal and consistent is just a small blip of a pattern. A dot of consistency and sanity that only appears so because we are only observing it at that point. If we were to see the entirety of infinity, I doubt what we see as normal is universal. And perhaps the patterns of creation we see are outliers in comparison to all.

@kennyholmes5196

Ай бұрын

I agree with you on this matter; normal is not universal. Not in the slightest. Because when you take what is normal in one area and move it to another that is different, what is normal is necessarily made abnormal due to shifting normality. Extrapolate that out to an infinite world with a finite area that has any given standard for "normal", and everything ends up being both an outlier due to how much of the universe doesn't have the normality, and the universal standard at the same time due to how infinity works.

@someoneawesome8717

Ай бұрын

Chaos is older than the concept of gender, they are neither male or female, or perhaps they are both and more!

@Broomer52

Ай бұрын

Chaos approaches everything like it’s an experiment and they are a scientist. They way he talks to you would be like how someone would try and speak to an AI. Chaos even calls this universe and experiment and treats no one in it like living creatures even while talking to them. Treating Zagreus as more of an amusing development rather than anything slightly significant and being less enthused by his sister noting how different they are. They are Chaos incarnate in that theirs no end goal to this experiment, rather they simply generated a world with criteria and wanted to see what happens. Theirs no method, theirs no purpose, just curiosity. Although after the events of the first game Chaos got more involved and now they fear they tainted the experiment by interfering too much which is likely why they chose a more humanoid form.

@mr.cuddlesworth3144

Ай бұрын

I prefer his older look. His new one does not at all match the setting IMO. Looks like he came from a different game entirely.

@kennyholmes5196

Ай бұрын

@@mr.cuddlesworth3144 Which is perfectly in-character for Chaos to pull. It's Chaos. It's the exception to every rule.

Its a bit weird to me that Chaos fell for Chronos' "good intentions" and not being able to see deceit, yet in the previous game they sometimes speak of not believing Zag yet see his intentions are true. If you cant tell who lies, how can you tell someone is saying the truth? I got the feeling they were curious what would happen if the Fates would suddenly dissapear, but now they are remorseful cuz Nyx is trapped under Chronos' spell

@prisma.

Ай бұрын

In the very next dialogue Chaos says "Yeah I kinda guessed I was being deceived but I was interested to see what happens without the Fates."

@VI_VA.

Ай бұрын

@@prisma. im kinda excited for the drama that is going to follow after we free House Hades. Because I have tje feeling Nyx is going to be *very* upset when she finds out about Chaos' involvement 👀

Is it just me or is the head he's holding the Hades 1 version?

@0axis771

Ай бұрын

Yes. It’s like he destroyed his old self s as me made a new form.

@shadowfoxy1238

Ай бұрын

Is chaos a man or a woman or possibly both and none?

@Camunon

Ай бұрын

@@shadowfoxy1238 Considering the concept of the character, probably both and none lol

@shadowfoxy1238

Ай бұрын

@@Camunon lol

@valhatan3907

Ай бұрын

Literally just Chaos​@@shadowfoxy1238

it's interesting to see that Chaos has taken on a more humanoid form. perhaps they chose to appear this way bc they were inspired to do so after their reunification with their daughter Nyx? or was their choice to appear more humanoid inspired by Zagreus's adventures? either way, I think their new form looks great! and, I'm looking foward to the full release of the game! 💜💜💜

@Techhunter_Talon

Ай бұрын

They kinda resemble the Furies considering the singular wing and feminine face.

@Jadefire1010

Ай бұрын

@@Techhunter_Talon Chaos actually has two wings, the further wing just blends into the background and is almost impossible to see. I almost thought Chaos had one wing until I saw the full portrait on the fandom wiki.

Damn, Chaos is looking quite spiffy

3:38 why do I read this as Chaos wanting to "talk" (in a very non-friendly way) with Chronos after he decieved them and took Nyx from them? But they can't do that directly, so Mel have to suffice.

I wonder if the form of Chaos we saw was due to a lack of connection to the world(aka the place we play in) and thus they become more alien. But when Zag reconnects with them, and especially when they reconnect with Nyx, Chaos is now closer to us than the world than foreign, thus having a more so to speak "rationalized" appearance.

@Techhunter_Talon

Ай бұрын

They even seem like they express more emotion and energy in their words.

I feels like it’s important to keep in mind that Chronos definitely asked Chaos where to the fates AFTER the capture of the underworld. If he already knew, then he wouldn’t have bothered asking Hades. And the fact Chaos asks Mel if she knows about the whereabouts of Zag or Nyx means THEY DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THE CAPTURE Chaos, as established, can sense intentions, but it seems like Chronos got around that. My guess is he said he wanted to “talk to the fates” and failed to mention / think the thought he would take them prisoner if the conversation didn’t go his way. As Chaos wanted to know if all was preordained by the fates, decided to see if it was possible for them to be share that information. Just to satisfy a whim of curiosity if the Fates had brought order to the events of the world Primordial Chaos created. The moment Chronos realized Chaos lacked the valuable information of “Nyx is a prisoner” he took advantage of that to keep her a a bargaining chip while also getting the Fates. Also as Chaos can always sense intentions, this is why they don’t get deceit. If a person lies, they always know. But technically, Chronos didn’t lie. He just intentionally left out a some facts. Some very important facts. And was very careful not to think about his wider scale motivations in Chaos’s presence

“Here take this egg my dear.”

Why is there an embryo attached to his mouth

@Pixelcat607

Ай бұрын

Because chaos

@valhatan3907

Ай бұрын

It goes along on something that supposed to represent creation or birth

@kelthusad9411

Ай бұрын

Chaos 1 head - the Family of Hades, Embryo - Melinoë

@hmalba7864

Ай бұрын

I interoperate it as being symbolic of two things. The first is Chaos is showing it has dominion over life and death. The severed head of its former self is death, and the embryo emerging from the mouth is life/rebirth. Chaos holds these concepts in its hand as if it were a common object. The second is Chaos is showing it is capable of the impossible. It is holding both its past, represented as the head of its former design, and its future, represented by the embryo. A being as powerful as Chaos can simply perform these otherwise impossible tasks with no effort, because Chaos is less of a god and more of an Elderitch concept.

@mkmc94

Ай бұрын

@@hmalba7864 nice analysis. They really did a great job with their characters design

For those unaware in Greek myth. Chaos is a huge deal as they are the sole creator of everything including Nyx. Literally Chaos is at the top powerful beings which is why in this game they are PISSED at Chronos. Because of what he did to Chaos, they themselves cannot deal with Chronos as it is against the worlds nature so they lemd their power to those that can

I just want a Chaos hot springs scene tbh

@lunaea_a

Ай бұрын

AMEN

Is that.....meg? The hair, face the singular wing

@kraosdadafusfus8034

Ай бұрын

Chaos probably met and befriended her like with Zagreus. She's technically their granddaughter.

@colleagueloyal7269

Ай бұрын

no its not chaos just took a different form

There's... there's a baby in his mouth...

I am glad that Chaos is present in the 2nd game (my favorite of the 'Gods' from Hades I), but I can't say that I like how "overly defined" thier character design is.

Bro got the best drip

Chaos has the greatest drip

chaos is so gender

@dependent-ability8631

Ай бұрын

them boss aesthetic

So, just so I'm clear Chaos is more powerful than the fates, right?

@Hermi0Taurus

Ай бұрын

Chaos is the origin of practically everything in Hades and is their grandparent. I would imagine Chaos *has* the abilities as their triplet granddaughters but is admittedly naive since they both prefer keeping themselves in their realm while also holding no real favoritism whichever way in terms of the Olympians and the Chthonics. They at least know they screwed up after faintly feeling their daughter's absence in the House of Hades.

@ezekielbaskerville2710

Ай бұрын

@@Hermi0Taurus It's not that they prefer keeping in their realm, it's more that they inherently destablize any other realm. He *cannot* enter the world it made, rather than that she _will_ not.

@Hermi0Taurus

Ай бұрын

@@ezekielbaskerville2710 That actually makes sense.

@kieranray5340

Ай бұрын

Technically yes, but the Primordials retired from the universe into their own realms, so we can assume that Chaos no longer has that influence outside their realm. Worth noting that Nyx, as Chaos' daughter and personification of Night, is also a Primordial, yet she fell to Chronos like the rest of the gang.

Chaos looks so much better than before

@josephmoffatt4696

Ай бұрын

I think it’s debatable. But it is definitely *different.*

@kamionero

Ай бұрын

“I found him amusing. How interesting how offspring can be so dissimilar” Well… im sorry for boring you 😭😤

@jst1215

Ай бұрын

I like the new outfit but I prefer their old face and hair, which granted is still part of the design but still. It was more androgynous and I like that given Chaos’ lack of defined gender.

@kelthusad9411

Ай бұрын

I think the Hades 2 Chaos is 100% an improvement, the new design is so pretty and smart in it's details and symbols

They sound very similar to Singularity from Bayonetta 3

3:41 Oh dear... that bodes poorly for Chronos.

why are they so hot...

@lunaea_a

Ай бұрын

I LKNOW RIGHT

@Pikamarmot

Ай бұрын

Greek Mythology has always depicted its deities and figures to be generally attractive, with a couple of exceptions.

Why don't I see anyone talking about Meg? Why is she holding chaoses old head?

@gasalpha879

Ай бұрын

This isn't meg, just chaos being ever changing

@retronismaximus5534

Ай бұрын

@gasalpha879 if he is ever changing, then why would he choose a form that already exists? And why make it look like it killed itself?

@colleagueloyal7269

Ай бұрын

@@retronismaximus5534 Chaos probably just cycles through life and is reborn when it dies. Chaos probably is genderless and also what they look like now might be like nyx not meg as they are directly related.

@retronismaximus5534

Ай бұрын

@@colleagueloyal7269 but nix doesn’t have blue hair like that with the one bat wing.