Do you think Daniel Negreanu has the BEST live poker reads? 🤔

@toddfarkman2177

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. He's had some big misses. I think his talent is definitely tells and interacting with people. He seems to do really well with players he's familiar with. running well in the high-stakes games.

@TzCata

Жыл бұрын

Negreanu - Romania 🥰

@carltaylor2975

11 ай бұрын

I used to think he was REALLY good at reading people live, but I haven't kept up with the scene over the last 10 years or so, who else is up there with the best reads right now guys? Opinions?

I've been watching Daniel play for a long while now and he has amazing reads. That said somehow sometimes he manages to make a slip and lose focus and then lose everything. When he is laser focused he wins big as long as he stays that way as he did in the Super High Roller, I just happened to be there that night and he was in the zone.

@austinhoffa99

Жыл бұрын

I think everyone caught up with the poker legends .

8:06 - “The vegan delivering the meat” is crazy - even his man had to repeat it 💀

I think the raise was spot on. 3 handed, second place I feel like NP played his hand face up - AA KK AQ KQ KJ Q10 1010. What he almost certainly doesn’t have is QQ QJ Q9 K10. That river should have made NP really consider the payout difference between 2nd and third. What was the cash value of those chips in terms of tournament place?

After just calling on the dinamic turn Petrangelo capped on 2 pairs and sets, that's why it was an easy raise for Negreanu on the river.

Agree with most stuff but the flop favours Daniel in 3 handed. Button raises so many weak low and disconnected hands. A lead out range is fine with K10, J9 as he can easily call a raise. But check raising those hands becomes a nightmare when you get re re raised

Nay rather, I think the Queen on the River *destroys* him.

" You're talking too much jonathan, move on" 😆

I don't think our opponent has a full house unless it is exactly QJ. I guess you figure AQ/KQ might call a jam so that is probably the best play, although I guess you sometimes run into QJ. But this is a tournament and you only have so many hands so I'd side on being aggressive and shipping it in.

It was not DNG's who destroyd him, it was only Bad Luck!

What would Petrangelo put Daniel on after the check raise on the river? Daniel should be having here either straight or full house considering he check raises the river, right? I still do not get Petrangelo call, it wold be difficult fold, but I don't get what he hopes to beat after the check raise

Can’t fold a straight. But what does patrangelo target with a small raise? Bad bet sizing. I’d call.

I think nicks raising any sets and 2 pairs even his draws so Daniel has a clear raise ..i know you can’t put anyone on a specific hand but in this case a Qk qa j10 Ja is in his range tons

I was going to raise to 600k. I think you have to go for value there and you cant go crazy like pot or an overbet bc then you’re only getting called by full houses really (idk much abt icm but i assume especially with ivm this is the case) And theres absolutely no reason to min raise or something because whatever is going to call a min raise for 1/2 pot will call a 3/4 pot raise. Basically you just plan to raise fold if you get 3bet large and cry raise call if it’s a small 3bet? although i doubt that would happen lol

“Not often do you see a vegan deliver the meat, but there it is” Schulman: “OOOOF” Lol

Very interesting hand. This hand is a cooler as KQ is one of the premium bluff catcher blocking straight and boat. But the the sizing choice of 1/3 river bet put Daniel in a situation where he cannot check/shove because of the ICM. I think this sizing is very wise at 3left. And retrospectively (always easy to say) Daniel, as the chip leader should rather build a range that would front door a potsize bet-ish sizing on the river against someone who block bet IP on the river. It makes me think that the winner in this hand is Petrangelo for only loosing 900k in a situation that could have cost him the tournement or at least 2/3 of his stack.

@Badbentham

Жыл бұрын

I feel that Danny played his exact hand quite decently , and that he probably extracted the most value that he could: Checking helps to protect his range, and if he should face a huge polarizing River bet, then he can elect to just call. - As it is kind of an issue that Petrangelo should still have a Nut Advantage, where it is at least possible with his chosen line that he has any of QQ, QJ, Q9, and JJ. While Danny only ever should have QJ and Q9; 77, maybe. That said: I would be most curious to know whether it was a valid option for Petrangelo to ever turn a Q (as Nut blocker) into a bluff; however, the K in his hand may actually spoil it, by blocking parts of Danny's assumed folding range.

@PierrePalsterman

Жыл бұрын

I don't exactly know how Daniel is building his 3beting rang and Petrangelo his Cbeting range on the flop. But after flop goes x-x in single raise pot, P. shouldn't have many set left and the same about over pair. Then after leading the turn D. shouldn't worry too much about protecting his x-b-x line. Like i said my thinking was about exploiting the 1/3 sizing bet of P. If P. strategy is to bet small IP on the river, you should adapt by finding plays that allow you to take the most EV possible. You should use x-raise line to gain more EV than a front door betting.

I would have raised a bit bigger to 7 hundo not 5.8 but definitely raise blockish looking bet

What would Dnegs do of the villain jams? Taking take into consideration, is raising still good?

@tqsuited

Жыл бұрын

He would have to fold. Nick is representing a full house (or god forbid quad queens) if he 3 bets or jams on the river.. Nick turning his trip queens into a bluff? Tricky tricky, he would be afraid that DNegs is too polarised.. DNegs' raise is often a full house in that spot. So just calling is safer.

I think there is a world for a thin raise, Dnegs is defending his BB as a chip leader, which means he has a really wide range, thus a lot of weak queens in his range, compared to Petrangelo, who will only have broadway queens, which might lead Nick to call a small raise.

I would have just called with the payout implications

Definitely would raise. As played, Nick doesn’t have many full houses. Two pair would have raised on the turn, a set or a double gut shot like Daniel had would have bet the flop. A marginal made hand would check behind. So my analysis would be Nick has a queen, and is going for value. A decent raise has a good chance to get called.

@rk7631

Жыл бұрын

Yes but you're broke 😂

I would raise to a larger sizing to get value from hands with a queen, approximately to 375k

I think it wasn't difficult to analyze that Petrangelo had no Full. So I am not surprised about Negreanus Play. I am not a Tournement Player, but in Cash Games it is unlikely that this is Bluff and you have to ask what can I beat.

Raise and if he ships fold

I will call.. if I raise and get reraise then i maybe obliged to fold!

Raise and fold to re-raise. Raise to 550K.

Fold is out of the question... raise will only get worse hands to fold and better hands will never fold, so call is the only option. Am I missing something?

@mikedoyle7654

Жыл бұрын

I'm not arguing with Daniel... he's the GOAT. I just don't understand. Was he turning his hand into a bluff?

It makes sense for DNegs to raise. Logic follows, you check, he bets smallish meaning it's very likely he is betting value as he assumes your hand is weak and wants to get paid. Had Petr bet a large bet it would suggest Petr trying to steal it. So the question is, how good is Petr's hand? Not likely QQ, maybe QJ? Not likely. So DNegs raises enough that a hand like Q-Q-Q will call. Or maybe AQ.

Check, raise is the sexiest move in poker

What would we do vs. What would They Do is on a whole nother Level or 10 😅

Call. All the full house possibilities are there. If he backdoored a full house, that is poker.

its not often you see the vegan deliver the meat but there it is

never seen Daniel with that much facial hair before

Small checkraise. I think too large gets called by boats only.

Raise grip it and rip it in… he would’ve raised top two or a set on the turn

This is a year old,,,, why are you posting this?

If he bet big we are probably supposed to start leaning call but there is no way I'm not raising here probably to about 620K

Why not reraise all in if you're Petrangelo?

@leonmozambique533

Жыл бұрын

That is a massive punt lol

@Brazz27

Жыл бұрын

As a bluff, you can consider it.. But these plays are very hard to pull off in a random setting, let alone 3 ways in one of the biggest tournament you'll ever play.

Cr river is obvs DN plan and wanna go big 700-800k

I think I would have just bet 3/4 pot on the river rather than check raising.

@legendary.super.shannon9699

Жыл бұрын

Problem w/that is, the only worse hand that's just calling a bet that big on the river is exactly what he has; anything he's holding that can't beat 3 of a kind is folding, while anything better is raising all-in, which then puts Daniel to a brutally difficult decision w/what is like, what, the 8th nuts on the river? We can see the others' cards, they can't (although sometimes w/Daniel i'm not certain that applies to him, but assuming he can't). I don't think Patrangelo plays a boat the way he did here, specifically on the flop, but still, he *could* have flopped bottom set & made a full house on the river, or had a hand like QJ in which he would've played perfectly in this spot, had that been the hand he was holding.

@bappo795

Жыл бұрын

​@Legendary.Super.Shannon I feel like our bluffs would start to run him over if he is only calling 3/4 bet with only trips and up though. I think we could reasonable have plenty of bluffs with this line, no? Or maybe I personally play too lose and would have too many bluffs in this spot.

@legendary.super.shannon9699

Жыл бұрын

@@bappo795 I don't think Daniel is betting this line on a stone bluff, nor do I think Patrangelo is hero calling a bet that size w/3.5 mil on the line, 3 handed (IIRC) at the final table where the buy In was $300k. Maybe if this were a cash-game you can consider a big bluff here in this spot but not at this stage in a tournament, & not w/either of these 2 players specifically. So no, I don't think Daniel ever bluffs that big, nor do i see Patrangelo calling down 3/4ths pot (a huge percentage of what he has behind) w/anything less than trips. Maybe he calls a thin value bet w/a JX type hand, but no chance for 3/4ths of a huge pot.

Considering your three-handed at a final table and you hit a straight, but you no longer have the nuts on the river. I love Daniel's check to see Nick's action. After the small thin bet from Nick, I love the idea of raising. You clearly need to get value from your hand and you only lose to QJ which is less likely that Nick has since he didn't lead out on the flop. If Nick would have bet pot or bigger then you can reasonably call in Daniels spot with the straight

@connorcrump3825

Жыл бұрын

Would he never have Q9 in that spot?

@Kevgamer88

Жыл бұрын

@@connorcrump3825 that is also reasonable, but he could cbet reasonably on the flop with mid pair since he does have a slight range advantage

Probably I'd have raised bigger, around to 800k . Especially when I sense I am up against trips, based on his size.

Ali Nejad is hilarious

@eternalselph

Жыл бұрын

No he's not

Check raise was too small on the river. I would go 1M.

He could have had ace diamond and Jack diamond. So it's good to bet

"He's pretty good at poker" 😆...he is the 2nd or the 3rd (long time 1st ) on all time money list ...yeah , agreed ..pretty good at poker . LOL

A: raise about 850,000

5 minutes in so far and you don’t mention a flush chance? Bad coach. Actually just a great call and not raise by Petrangelo.

I would have raised to 700k setting up the trap....🎉

Reptilian! Lol. Pretty good comment along with slip it to him lol. Nick P is one of my favorite players. He just ran into it here.He lost the minimum. I like his small sizing and Nick almost had to call. Well played by 2 great players. DNegs is down around 800k so far at the wsop this year. ImHo I think he has not been in top form at all. Too loose. Too tight. Just isn’t feeling it right now.

Raise

Amazing how Dan got lucky and got the best hand there.What a player.

Call. Pot's already big enough, and Nick could have QJ for a full house.

Raise $500k imo

I think I would raise small and fold to a yam.

Daniel Negreanu is 100% romanian blood ...next time u intend to judge romanians by any meens , please think of him ...or Nadia Comăneci ...or Eugen Ionesco ..or Emil Cioran..or Panait Istrati or Costantin Noica or Mircea Eliade or Henry Coandă or Traian Vuia or Aurel Vlaicu or Hagi ,Halep or Țiriac !!

Not sure about the destroyed him, he just got the nuts lol

@RylHango

Жыл бұрын

Pocket queens are the nuts

@mrhumble2937

Жыл бұрын

@@RylHango not on turn

Raise to 540k

I tried, can't sit through that commentary..!

Are you talkin through ya nose?

you talk too much

If only Petrangelo on the flop to represent a J.. then his turn and river bet would make Dnegs unable to raise.. for the fear or QJ~ Which is a sensible hand to play. In a sense by betting more, he’s more likely to lose less.. but then again.. you’ll never know.

Yeah. I can't watch it anymore. Bye.

500K RAISE