My guess is that the Spurs are stockpiling draft picks to give them the ability to trade for an all-star in the next couple years. But they could have kept Dillingham and developed him, then made him the centerpiece of a trade.

@thequixoticangler3364

5 күн бұрын

No they're trying to get 2 top 7 picks next year. A fast rebuild. That draft is going to be landmark.

@specialwhenlit8435

4 күн бұрын

Developing Dilly as a ball-handling PG means taking it away from everyone else, including Victor. Also he's bottom 1% on the defensive end, he'll get exposed often and most likely have the value of a spark plug off the bench. He can definitely be the centerpiece of a trade to an And-1 squad, tho, he's got those skills on lock.

@razkable

3 күн бұрын

Seems like they want to tank for a pick and allow victor to play as the main guy again without needing to share the ball with someone else who needs to develop and get up shots...the 2 players style wise may have clashed and hurt each other growth wise...salaun made more sense for them

@schuylerkrizay6192

2 күн бұрын

they also could just not be into Rob.

Spurs have like 8 pick swaps in Wembys prime perfect. Or they package stuff for a far better player than Dilly.

@yido65

5 күн бұрын

This is what people aren't seeing. The reactions have been very short-sighted.

@smoothhoops3739

5 күн бұрын

Or just take Dillingham you didn't get a crazy haul for him. Use those other picks as ammo

@blablablaa14

5 күн бұрын

People really think the spurs are stupid and will try to contend next year. Instead they are stacking their team to demolish teams in 3-4 years. The league is just OKC Celtics and Spurs. The rest of the teams are not at that level of thinking for the future

@smoothhoops3739

5 күн бұрын

@@blablablaa14 Rob Dillingham in 4 years could easily be an all star and by then he'd have great chemistry with Wemby

@specialwhenlit8435

4 күн бұрын

@@smoothhoops3739 Wemby plays great defense, Dilly doesn't care about it at all and chronically dies on screens and picks. There's no chemistry to develop.

They turned Poeltl into an unprotected 1st & a top 1 protected swap. Come on guys.

@robertomaldonado2723

5 күн бұрын

George Hill*

@blablablaa14

5 күн бұрын

And Poeltl was just a throw in during the Kawhi trade. Spurs are building the right way

@chiefw3573

4 күн бұрын

With what players around Wendy?

@schuylerkrizay6192

2 күн бұрын

@@blablablaa14 you're thinking of the wrong trade brother. Poetl traded BACK to toronto he means

@blablablaa14

2 күн бұрын

@@schuylerkrizay6192 No im not. The trade of Poeltl to Toronto was only enabled because of the Kawhi trade to Toronto which got Derozen and Poeltl to the Spurs where Poeltl was just a throw in young guy, and that trade was only possible because the 15th pick which the Spurs used to select Kawhi as George Hill was traded to the Pacers for that pick. So basically George Hill was traded for Derozen (who was later traded for picks) and the picks the Spurs have now from the Wolves

The draft being 2 days for 2 rounds may be the most unnecessary thing they’ve done in years

Can’t wait until Buzelis shoots a good percentage from 3. Everyone tried to say Keyonte George couldn’t shoot that well last year too. EYE TEST

the conspiracy theory on spurs twitter is that by moving the #8 pick, that frees up more cap space for the spurs ($26m) to (hopefully) use (this year) in free agency. going castle + dillingham would have been sort of redundant. i do believe the spurs pivoted once salun was taken at 7.

@Dr.Deagle.

5 күн бұрын

I don't think its redundant at all. Castle is a great defender and can slot at either guard spot while dillingham cam create his own shot better than anyone else but isnt a great defender. How is that redundant

@bigwillie54

5 күн бұрын

@@Dr.Deagle.it’s redundant because they drafted Castle to play at point.

@jey4908

5 күн бұрын

I thought it's obvious that it was the plan. What's only weird is the pick is 7 yrs away lol. Shouldve been like 2028

@bigwillie54

5 күн бұрын

@@jey4908 Minnesota don’t have earlier picks because they traded them in the Gobert trade

@Littlepeep192

5 күн бұрын

Draft picks don’t count against salary until they are signed. They can easily waive Graham as his guaranteed is only 3 mil if they needed money.

Dalton should choose #4. Knecht 4 nickname. Very excited for the pick!

@nickrandolph4213

3 күн бұрын

I believe he actually did :)

@concernedcitizen4171

3 күн бұрын

@@nickrandolph4213 awesome

Love the draft breakdown. KOC really had his notes ready!!!

I actually liked the two day draft. Emphasize the 1st round.

I feel bad for Kyle Flip and Johnny Furphy. Green room invites not drafted on Day 1. This is why I’m a firm believer in draft prospects not returning to school to improve their draft stock. I remember Kyle was projected to be a top 20 pick last year. For him to not get drafted in round 1 in a supposed weaker draft must be a gut punch for him. I hope Kyle and Johnny gets drafted into a great team situation in round 2.

@schuylerkrizay6192

2 күн бұрын

cause bro got some weird mormon babysitter grooming him lol

These experts are so hilarious. Yesterday this was the worst draft in years. Spurs traded the 8th pick (Minnesota absolutely told them who to pick) for control of 2 future firsts to stay flexible. What are they gonna say when Dillingham is unplayable in the playoffs?

@Joe-bj3yp

5 күн бұрын

Castle can’t shoot and non-shooters are massive liabilities in the playoffs

@coachtimmeh6826

5 күн бұрын

@@Joe-bj3yp castle absolutely can shoot. Great mechanics, solid ft%. Wemby shot 27% for 3 before the nba. Everyone said Kawhi was a terrible shooter. If spurs picked him, they believe he has a great chance to improve his shooting.

@rockett3756

5 күн бұрын

What they’re saying isn’t wrong they just said they like the player more the spurs need shooting and playmaking rob does that at a higher level than anyone on the spurs and for him being a small guard wemby couldve made up for a lot of his defensive shortcomings but now the twolves can

@Joe-bj3yp

5 күн бұрын

⁠@@coachtimmeh6826 no, he absolutely cannot shoot and has never shown the ability to do so at any level. And the “but Kawhi” line of reasoning is tired. He’s a developmental anomaly. Most good defender/bad shooter prospects remain just that

@nickhurt6600

5 күн бұрын

@@Joe-bj3ypmaybe he’s never a good shooter but if he’s a plus on offense otherwise plus great defense he’ll be a valuable rotation piece or more

2031 draft = Some kid who is in entering the 6th grade this fall

The number gives me Josh Childress vibes

KAT will be 35, Gobert will be gone, and who knows what that ownership situation looks like. Ant may be gone if they don't take a step forward soon in a brutal west, it's a good bet.

@rickevans8055

5 күн бұрын

That’s also banking on that they do absolutely nothing else to improve the team in that time. You’d imagine an aggressive GM like Connelly would do something in that 7 years.

@specialwhenlit8435

4 күн бұрын

@@rickevans8055 After this and the Gobert trade they're about out of 1st rounders. To be aggressive, he'll have to trade away good players because no GM is gonna bail him out.

@gullintanni

4 күн бұрын

@@rickevans8055Historically UFA stars don’t stay in Minnesota. Might be cheap owner and it’s hard for small market teams to compete, even with smart GM.

It’s never a bad thing to have pick swaps and first rounders

The Spurs banking on the Timberwolves reverting to form (being bad) in 2030 isn't a bad bet. Gobert will either be retired or playing as an expired 38 year old. KAT will be gone. ANT, having won nothing, likely politics his way to a major market.

@Ian00003

5 күн бұрын

I’m biased as a wolves fan but I think Ant wants to stick around

@ccogdill152028

5 күн бұрын

@Ian00003 they ALL want to stick around. LeBron wanted to stick around because it was his hometown. Durant wanted to stick around and loved the college atmosphere at OKC in the early days. KG wanted to stick around, but he got stuck in that typical Wolves cycle of bad, bad, bad, decent, good, great, decent, bad, bad, bad. If ANT doesn't get a ring by age 25/26 then he's 100% going to start making gestures at leaving to "pursue winning" before that last year of his deal at age 27. If he wins, then he'll do the Giannis cycle and stick around until the end of time.

@rickevans8055

5 күн бұрын

That’s a lot of time to tear down and rebuild a team though, personally I think KAT will be gone in the next year. Gives them a lot more options salary cap-wise too. That being said 7 years is a looong time and no one knows what’ll happen.

@specialwhenlit8435

4 күн бұрын

@@rickevans8055 KAT has a massive contract that runs until 2028, and the Wolves have no 1st rounders to sweeten a deal. He's not going anywhere.

Buzelis to the Bulls make sense if they completely blow up the roster and get a new coach, which they should, my concern for him would be the concern for anyone going to the Bulls which is the organisation is bad

@vitocarlucci111

5 күн бұрын

The coaching staff's only saving grace has been player development. If the Bulls are going to blow it up, keeping Billy Donovan is the way to go.

The spurs are not building a team to win next year. They are building a team to win a title in 3-4 years. You can try to rush it but their moves are consistent with a team thinking 10 years forward instead of 2-3

@tonycanigo8154

5 күн бұрын

They are just building with no vision going nowhere. Their greatest accomplishment is to have landed wemby through lucky lottery pick. It's just luck.. Other than wemby what have they built...

@schuylerkrizay6192

2 күн бұрын

not done overnight lol. Wemby is luck sure. Its clear there vision and outlook is to build a winner around him.

I need more Tate and college 🏀

KOC taunting Tate for picking a different player from the French league for being the top pick? LMAO

Mario Hezonja at the number 1 pick for the Hawks 😂😂😂

@razkable

3 күн бұрын

No he went 11 to the bulls lol

@Scott86Free

3 күн бұрын

@@razkableno that’s Henry Ellenson

Collier is not going to be anything but a backup PG who can kinda score but not defend or shoot. I doubt Utah has major plans for him

I knew this guy would say the Risacher. He flat out hates the Hawks and he never tries to hide it. Who ever the Hawks would have chosen he would have had something negative to say. He has also made it clear that he hates Trae Young, so I saw this coming.

@schuylerkrizay6192

2 күн бұрын

bro he doesnt HATE any team, you are taking this personal cause he doesnt glaze your guy. Risacher is not a high upside pick its a high floor pick and with upside. Not ideal at 1 overall. but your team has a great track record look at all the gems you got!? Trae AND Cam Reddish (dallas got fleeced you got 2 lotto picks, core pieces) Hunter (risacher 2.0) who elsE?

@Dave-nm8uf

2 күн бұрын

@@schuylerkrizay6192 Thanks for responding. I am not a woe is me Hawks fan but this guy has a history of bias and I do think it is mostly Trae Young-related because there a lot of hate out there for this, for reasons that remain a mystery to me. Sarr was my choice but since he and his agent did not want to come to Atlanta, that's fine. I do agree with you that there was no consensus number one. The more I'm learning about Richaser, the more I'm starting to like. He will struggle a lot, especially early in his career but if he puts it all together, the Hawks may have drafted a star level player. I fist thought you were trolling a bit wqhwen you mentioned Cam Reddish, one of the players that I have gotten wrong in my Hawks fandom. I thought for sure he was going to be a star, instead he has turned into a journeyman. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Luka needs to take up boxing and get lean and mean to go up against all these fantastic defensive players. Lot of great D guys across the league

Utah won night 1

Tim Connley goated

Think the TS theory is correct. Shocked the spurs got that much for Dilly but think they’re up to something.

I must be drunk cause I ain't here Jalen Tyson talked about at all

Mr. "Killian Hayes is my number 1 player" strikes again LMAO. KOC really picked Risacher (the guy who most described as a low ceiling/high floor prospect) as his most likely bust candidate comparing him to Stanley Johnson... 😂 Not Alex Sarr, the guy who practically has had no offensive skillset right now fresh off if being a backup in the NBL? Or Castle, the shooting guard who can't shoot? I seriously can't believe anybody still listens to this goober... 🤦‍♂️

I'm not seeing the vision of what detroit has cooking up. they draft fairly well in terms of talent goes but the fit of their pieces remains questionable.

@schuylerkrizay6192

2 күн бұрын

yeah not AT all... seriously do not get it

How can these players play a game that you hv to shoot a ball in a basket & most of them can't shoot

Is Baylor Scheierman a NBA player?

@Dr.Deagle.

5 күн бұрын

6'7 shooters can always make it if they hit shots

Dillon jones is better and will have a better career than Topic

Lots of discourse in the comments on a pick in 2031. All I’ll say is if anyone tries to rationalize their opinion on what that pick will be at that time is throwing out a wild guess. But personally my opinion is that earth is struck by meteor before the pick and it doesn’t even happen. Lose-lose trade

Wizards have done nothing right. Ever. And you guys love what the did? 😅

i HATE being the fan that complains about not being talked about but how does getting a TOP 2 player on your board KOC at number 7 not even register above players taken at the END of the 1st round? In a draft that is so freaking flat, the Blazers getting possibly the BEST player in this draft @7 should have been discussed higher in the rundown. Whatever.

@schuylerkrizay6192

2 күн бұрын

no one cares.

@glc0stanza

2 күн бұрын

@schuylerkrizay6192 have you polled the entirety of the interested population to arrive at this conclusion. Surprised you took the time required to formulate that response.

Sheppard over Castle is a joke for the Spurs

You guys realize Ant is only signed until 2029 right?

@user-rq7ym1jr9z

5 күн бұрын

You do realize ant is gonna have to force is way out because financially he ain't gonna get more money from anywhere else given they have his rights and are the only ones that can offer him the max

@kam_12_

4 күн бұрын

hes gonna sign that super max extension, even if he wants out he’ll still sign and force his way out after. too much money he’d miss out on

The damn Hornets are a MESS it blows my mind how bad they are every year with picking. WHO?!??!! WHOOOO!!!?!??! What a joke

Was there a recent rule change in the CBA? I thought as part of the Stephen rule, till recently at least, teams could only trade draft picks 5 years out max. But this Spurs trade and some others are trading picks 7 years away.

@BetleyIsland36

5 күн бұрын

No it's always been 7 years in the future

Hornets need to draft Bronny at 42 it’s our their only hope. Hold him hostage and have LeBron come to the REAL 🏀 STATE

No Wizards slander?? 🥹 used to pray for times like this, man. Praying at least 2 of the 3 picks pan out

Give us chapters you absolute production noobs

Getting a near term pick would be dumb, since Minny just made the WCFs. For most of their existence, Minny has been crap, so it’s a good 6/7 year out bet.

Of yeah this guy that San Antonio does not fancy at all and no other team wanted in top 7 will be a starter in January for a title contending team. These guys really have no idea what they are talking about.

@rockett3756

5 күн бұрын

Did you watch the playoffs?

@mindyourbuisness8104

5 күн бұрын

Why are we still pretending like San Antonio are some draft experts? They got lucky to have 3 of the most obvious number one picks ever and were ahead of the game on foreign scouting. What have they done in the draft lately?

@specialwhenlit8435

4 күн бұрын

@@mindyourbuisness8104 A bunch of recent 29th picks would like a word....

@pgiivanlennardesguerra8300

3 күн бұрын

@@specialwhenlit8435 1 was a recent champion, the other is a previous allstar the only miss in the recent history is the primo pick and its not even basketball related he just have too much D lol

@guillaumeraux

Күн бұрын

@@mindyourbuisness8104 The Spurs are historically regarded as one of the best franchises in the league, usually top 3, at drafting and developing talent. And it's not because they lucked out with 3 generational bigs. It's about the other ones. You don't become the most successful small market franchise in North American team sport, with very very few major trades, without being good at finding and developing talent.

Go Lakers!!!!!!!

I think Edey will be a much better pro than clingan..... They keep talking about clingan showing 3s in high school... He barely made over half his free throws...edey touch and growth during college makes me think he can develop his shooting range much quicker than clingan and he is on a better team with a better fit

I think it’s hilarious people think Rob can play in the playoffs. He would be destroyed defensively. Good luck to the wolves trying to have Rob guard Luka when switches happen and defend a guy almost a foot taller

@snarkmark2806

5 күн бұрын

Luka is 7’2”?

@blablablaa14

4 күн бұрын

@@snarkmark2806 He's like 6'9. My point stands

Castle the player has been endlessly praised for the past 2 months but I don’t like the fit in SA. He can’t shoot and NBA defenses will not respect his shot, ie more attention on wemby. Dillingham at 4 was a better value than castle at 4 imo

@snarkmark2806

5 күн бұрын

You obviously don’t watch them. SA runs a ton of inverted pick and roll with Wemby as the ball handler. Up until now, it’s been Tre Jones effectively scoring on the cut after the inevitable double on Wemby. Now, have Castle set a bone jarring pick, and cut to the hoop, creating a 4 on 3 opportunity EVERY time, and he either scores, or finds the one open guy.

@Joe-bj3yp

5 күн бұрын

@@snarkmark2806 ok coach, because all that inverted pnr led to a whopping 22 wins this past year

@specialwhenlit8435

4 күн бұрын

@@Joe-bj3yp Ok advanced analytics department, your "P&R effectiveness = win total" theory is noted and submitted to the board for approval

@Joe-bj3yp

4 күн бұрын

@@specialwhenlit8435​​⁠ you tried, but it’s quite simple. Castle cannot shoot and it will be an issue in a league that’s trending 5 out

Keep hating on matas please!!! As someone who uses that as motivation we need the haters to be loud. Then when all yall wrong on him he and we gonna come back and sit out nuts between yo eyes

@theleelife313

5 күн бұрын

The Matas Buzelis vs Ron Holland games are going to be fun.

Y’all overrate dillingham

Matas, Coby and Giddey 🔥 that’s an absolute amazing core. Trade Lavine and don’t sign Demar. Draft Ace Bailey or Flagg next season

Reed Sheppard will not see the ball in Houston. J Green Whitmore Jabari. I don’t think that was the spot for him.

The Spurs management knows what they are doing.

@silewis9396

5 күн бұрын

Do you know what they're doing?

@liljackypaper

5 күн бұрын

They gave up Derrick White for next to nothing lol

@Joe-bj3yp

5 күн бұрын

They haven’t won over 35 games in 5 yrs and just had a 22-win season after lucking into the best prospect since Bron

@dwightmonteith5699

5 күн бұрын

@@liljackypaper They gave up Derrick White for Victor Wembanyama.

@wembychan

5 күн бұрын

@@dwightmonteith5699we could have easily ended up with the 5th pick as well…

All this trading of picks years down the line is goofy and shouldn't be legal.

@Righteous210

5 күн бұрын

How do you see it? Why is it a bad thing?

@HalseyHFW

5 күн бұрын

@Righteous210 There should be a limit. Next thing team will be trading unprotected picks 20 years ahead of a Draft.

@James-ow5ze

5 күн бұрын

@@HalseyHFW You haven't explained how that is detrimental yet. Let me guess, you didn't like the emergence of three point basketball ten years ago either? Just because something is unconventional doesn't make it wrong or bad.