This should be the go-to video on maintenance for this drive. Great job!

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I greatly appreciate it

Just want to drop a comment saying how helpful this video was. Bought all the equipment recommended and did it in about 30 mins. Got my kayak used 4 years ago and never did maintenance until today. Despite such a long time and pretty regular use, the gears were in good shape. Definitely smoother than before though. Thanks!

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! Its not super hard to do and gives you confidence your drive is in good condition. Especially when you are out a long ways

Joe, nice step by step on how to maintain your kayak propel drive. Have a great week my friend, Blessings!

Great tutorial/demonstration Ryan ! The Native Propel Drive is the simplest and most robust of all the peddle drive units out there in my opinion. Thanks for the links to the tools. Good job bud !

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It was late and I’m really happy with how it turned out! I just hope it helps someone who is apprehensive about tackling this job

Great video, thanks for the walkthrough.

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Awesome video your a excellent technician and teacher

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Nice HOWTO Ryan! I've been putting off doing this to my 701 for months.

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ! Yeah so have i

Nice Video thanks

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it. Hope it helps you! Thanks for commenting! Have a great weekend

Thank you for making this video 🤙🏽, the dummy that previously had my kayak put the gear for the peddles backward so when you peddled forward would go backwards and backward would go forward

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Omg lol. Glad my video helped you get your life moving forward

There are 4 bolts on the bottom and four on the top. You don't need a spanner wrench to grease the gears. Nor do you have to take off the pedals. I have a video of the complete break down of the drive. All parts and components removed.

If anyone starts getting clanking or other noises and the pedaling isn't smooth, check to make sure you didn't strip a gear. The small gear on the upper transmission on my propel drive was jacked up after two years of use so I had to replace it. It was an easy fix, but I would have thought it would have lasted a little longer.

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the input. I find that odd too. Had you ever disassembled it?

@nj_angler_kjb

7 ай бұрын

Yes, did the routine maintenance following your step by step video a couple times. All of a sudden a couple months ago, it started with the loud noises and clanking. I push the drive too hard sometimes so I think that's why the smaller gear stripped. @@RhinoJoeOutdoors

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

7 ай бұрын

I would thing the metal used would be stronger than that. Sorry to hear that happened but glad you got it figured out. @@nj_angler_kjb

@nj_angler_kjb

7 ай бұрын

I would have thought so too. 3-4 grooves from the smaller gear were worn down quite a bit. Anyway, easy fix! Thanks for the video.@@RhinoJoeOutdoors

Searched the Facebook group for spanner wrench and came across your video. Thank you for the detailed walk through and tools used. Went on Amazon and ordered what I needed and am super excited about taking this long over due project on.

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Mine is so much more quiet and smooth. I probably should have done this shortly after getting the kayak.

Looks like a well-built unit! Check out a video Florida fish Hunter posted I think it was called native drive oil conversion. He changed it from a grease to an gear oil conversion in the lower unit.

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t want to void my warranty so I’ve kept mine greased

@aranha9365

2 жыл бұрын

works far better than grease! Really worth it. Mine is 3 years now, 2 on oil.

@aranha9365

2 жыл бұрын

@@RhinoJoeOutdoors It is not just put some oil, it is fill all the unit with engine oil, all components stay permanently imersed in lubricant it makes the drive extra smooth, much quieter.

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@aranha9365 The problem is if you buy the unit new putting oil in it will void the warranty with the manufacturer. If it weren’t for that I would have use some gear oil like you use in a vehicle differential or in a lower unit on a boat.

@miamiwax5504

4 ай бұрын

FFH is a badass

Any good alternatives to the silver 70 grease? It's been out on the website for months

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like the red and tacky grease would do well also. Main issue is with the grease native recommends is it slings off the drive. Im sure they went with that based on some environmental requirements or something. If my drive was out of warranty I would probably just do an oil conversion on it .. amzn.to/3tyUzxr

Hope this video gives you the confidence to maintain your own Propel Drive!

if you want it realy quiet, you can put gear oil in the tail piece

Why dont you take off the left pedal and lube that gear too?

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

It’s only one ring gear. There aren’t two

I’m hoping the manufacturers start using the “ISIS” style of splined bottom bracket system in their drives. The arms stay tight much longer and the system is just a stronger mate up of the cranks arms and bottom bracket spindle.

What size bolt did you use for that rotogrip on your drive?

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Evan! I did a little video on it and all the parts are in the description of that video! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fn2fo9V9mLStp84.html

Can you take off the gear without removing the pedals?

I think the bearing in the lower casing of my propel is no good. How do you get into it to replace a bad bearing?

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

You have to take the lower housing off I believe

What country makes the propel drive

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I think its made in the USA but not 100% sure

Meu amigo e muito caro este pedal aí onde vc mora aqui no Brasil e muito caro.

Does doing this void your warranty if you service it yourself?

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

It should not void the warranty. You could always check with native or your dealer to be sure.

@robbiejohnson3698

2 жыл бұрын

Kaku pedal drive fits in the native kayak

@robbiejohnson3698

2 жыл бұрын

Kaku kayaks

I noticed as soon as you touch your pedals the propeller responds immediately...Mine has about 1/8" of play when I move my pedals before the propller responds, I thought that was normal, guess not. What could be that be? Do i need to tighten something?

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

3 күн бұрын

Make sure the top silver ring that screws in is tight. That's what sets your pre-load on this type of ring and pinion gear system. Sounds like the ring gear from the pedals isn't close enough to your pinion gear on the shaft.

@prynceal6762

2 күн бұрын

@@RhinoJoeOutdoors Hey thanks for getn back with me...I am not sure what's meant by "top silver ring" can you elaborate? Or let me know which area on the drive has this "silver ring".

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 күн бұрын

@@prynceal6762 it’s the part where the crank arm attaches. It’s the silver ring that you have to use the spanner wrench on.

@prynceal6762

2 күн бұрын

@@RhinoJoeOutdoors Oh ok, hmmm I have never touched that its still sealed/tightened from the factory...However I have opened the lower unit in the past to fill it with gear oil but that "play" existed prior to me doing that "maintenance uograde" but I will give it a double check...Thanks again!!

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 күн бұрын

@@prynceal6762 no problem. If you ever work on vehicle differentials it’s the same concept. If you search google for Yukon gear ring and pinion setup you will get an idea of how the gears should mesh. I would suspect the gears aren’t tight into each other enough. In a vehicle it’s a lot more crucial with the loads transferred. I would check on it though because if it’s too loose and you put too much pressure on it you could possibly cause a gear tooth to break.

Do not buy the Amazon arm puller I highly suggest getting the burley pro set. If your crank arm is even a little tighter than it should be from the factory the center push screw is just small enough to ruin your threads. 200$ mistake for trying to save money on the tools. This guy got lucky not to experience this but take my word for it get the burley pro set

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I never had a problem with the Amazon puller. I’ve used it on the pedal drive and on my bike with no issues.

Does not work, constantly loses connection and signal. Goes off line way too often....Do your homework.

@RhinoJoeOutdoors

2 ай бұрын

A propel drive can’t lose signal 🤷🏼‍♂️