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@ArpanDe

3 жыл бұрын

Nice video

@user-np9nf5rj3i

3 жыл бұрын

Point out a mistake, Dongyi is not in North Korea, it is near Shandong Province

@juliuscaesar8925

3 жыл бұрын

Great Video! Very Enlightening.

@Perfectedketchup

3 жыл бұрын

Total war addiction is a pretty accurate description of what I have

@khuret1773

3 жыл бұрын

I think you You missed out on Eastern Part of India region bordering Myanmar Where we have Lots of tribes, different dialects... DM me

These people were treated by Chinese the same way Romans treated Celts. The parallels are very weird - both were amazing blacksmiths, divided into hundreds and thousands of different clans and tribes with varying language differences. Celts were amazing horsemen while Nanman were great sailors. Both got assimilated by those who considered them barbarians. Amazing.

@Milos111Zivkov

3 жыл бұрын

@@cudanmang_theog Vietnam stronk!

@thewanderingrey8830

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there are tribes in Europe that consider themselves to be direct Celtic descendants with Celtic languages. Even Vietnamese people can still claim kinship to some of the tribes in China that speak Sino-Vietnamese languages. The "assimiliation" of Yue was never complete with the presence of many of their direct tribal descendants making up of China's recognized minorities...

@obsidianstatue

3 жыл бұрын

@@cudanmang_theog LOL not assimilated politically, but culturally, vietnam is just a small version of China. it's a shame that you guys couldn't develop a written language. and had to adapt the Latin alphabet. should've kept the Chinese characters or alter it to suit your spoken language.

@rickr9435

3 жыл бұрын

@@thewanderingrey8830 the irish?

@DLDV123

3 жыл бұрын

@@rickr9435 Exactly what I thought, Also Weish I guess

I love this channel's obscure topics. I'd never heard of 90% of this stuff till you guys came along

@navox933

3 жыл бұрын

I also really appreciate Creative Assembly for always sponsoring those vids, i love playing Total War and watching this always gets me in the mood.

@labkone3921

3 жыл бұрын

FAQs

@juliuscaesar8925

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@summersong5876

3 жыл бұрын

SCINTILLAM DEI whats the name of the video?

@Mephisto43

3 жыл бұрын

Obscure to the Western world. Not to China and South-east Asia for example.

Brilliantly done. Especially the visuals and the art. And amazing research on your behalf mate. Cheers! Looking forward for more ❤️

They’re legacy reminds me a lot of the Gauls of Europe. A lot of information about them comes from records written by other cultures who considered them “barbarians,” but they in fact were extremely diverse and had a sophisticated culture. They were eventually conquered and assimilated by a powerful neighbor, but still live on in surprising places.

@samiamrg7

3 жыл бұрын

Even the Trưng sisters are comparable to Boudicca and the last-ditch uprising of the Icenni Gauls.

@weishi9804

9 ай бұрын

​@@samiamrg7please look up monument of Sister‘s conquer, the sister wad sold out by tribe chiefs, in return for continuation of right over lower class Vietnamese.

@weishi9804

9 ай бұрын

The sister choose wrong Chinese Emperor to rebel, who hold the record of leading 10,000 men to defeat 400,000 army.

@damiann4734

8 ай бұрын

​@@weishi9804Doesn't matter if the Trung sister lost then. They started a legacy and won in the end.

@fayhay8011

7 ай бұрын

The thing of what happen to the Nanman & not to the Celts is that the Nanman transforms into 3 distinct groups (Kra-Dai,Austronesia,Austro-asiatic) & one of them manage to explore & settle almost half of Earth's globe (Austronesia)

Speaking as a Northern Thai;(albeit of Han Chinese descent) I went to Yunnan on vacation and visited a town dominated by the Dai people.(Xishuangbanna in mandarin) Their cultures and traditions were exactly the same as at home, even the food, and the local dialect.

@kleuafflatus

3 жыл бұрын

Haha my friend told me the same thing, but the other way around: her grandma is from the countryside of Kunming and speaks a dialect. She went to north Thailand with a group of friends last year and only she understood what they were saying

@R4x0

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrGod47 that's what I heard too. Now we have corroboration.

@ngevacorp

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe ppl ran off to the south to avoid the war and took the land and became Thailand

@caocao4731

3 жыл бұрын

@@ngevacorp That's exactly what happened. It wasn't a single event, but a slow migration south that basically kicked off each time a Chinese Dynasty collapsed. By the time the Tai people arrived in what is now Thailand, the Cambodians were weakening as an empire. We just sort of...gave them a push down the stairs >_>. I think that's why they hate us, ha ha.

@LeSethX

3 жыл бұрын

I like to think of myself as knowledgeable in history in general, yet amazingly I had never even heard of the Nanman before this video (although I've never accepted China's claim that over 90% of the country is ethnically Han Chinese)

Shamoke: "All we had to do, was follow the damn river, Liu Bei!"

@FD_Stalker

3 жыл бұрын

Liu Bei:" Yeeee... no I like the shade of the forest."

@sim8051

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao only the real will get this one

@bryan3792

3 жыл бұрын

@@FD_Stalker Next day, **fire**

@Derna1804

3 жыл бұрын

@@sim8051 Luo Guanzhong likes his armies well-done.

@nore5992

2 жыл бұрын

Only the OG will remember this

This was wonderful to watch, very informative, and what a beautiful graphics!

Thanks so much for this overview of ancient Chinese history, it really helps broaden my perspective.

Im Maori and I wholeheartedly believe that some of my ancestors came from somewhere near the South China Sea. It's no coincidence that our language is exactly the same or has similar words to our Asian counterparts.

@ANTSEMUT1

3 жыл бұрын

@Paul Frei plus more protein in their diet.

@A_K808

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think it's just Maori or all Polynesians?

@A_K808

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuisAldamizWell, I'm in college right now, and what I've learned in my Hawaiian studies class (I'm Hawaiian, btw) is that the Polynesians originated from mainland southeast Asia to south Indonesia and then found their way to the Polynesian islands. IDK how true that is, but it's a possibility

@user-qv5cs4lc9t

3 жыл бұрын

@@A_K808 Taiwan, Mainland Southeast Asia are different.. they are Austroasiatic not Austronesian.

@user-qv5cs4lc9t

3 жыл бұрын

@Charles Huang Not really lol

Fun fact: The diplomat Han Wudi sent to Nan Yue was a former lover of the Nan Yue Queen Dowager. They rekindled their old flame and were slaughtered by the Nan Yue court. That gave Wudi the pretext to invade.

@brokensky2378

3 жыл бұрын

Han Wu Di was like the Trajan of the Han Empire. The guy fought a massive war against the Xiongnu nomads, and routed them in their homeland.

@cristhianramirez6939

3 жыл бұрын

When will kingdoms learn? killing diplomats and emmisars is calling for war

@hantingliu882

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a set up in first place

@masterj2245

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, Han Wudi（汉武帝） is his title, which means The Emperor of Martial of Han Dynasty. His real name is Liu Che(刘彻). All of the emperors in Han Dynasty have the family name Liu（刘）.

@stevengreen9536

3 жыл бұрын

@@cristhianramirez6939 It seems in the past when a ruler or the court got angry.They would forget the rules concerning the treatment of messengers. :/

This is really one of the most beautiful videos you guys have done. Beautiful in its art, story, and message. Well done.

This episode is exceptionally well written, the chronology, the names, the convergence of various countries/people's origins, the maps, everything is top quality, highly educational and very entertaining nevertheless. I've watched many episodes on this channel, they are all pretty good, but this one stand out by a far margin ahead, IMO. THANK YOU.

@fredgunon7066

6 ай бұрын

Thanks the archive of the Chinese documents...some documents of the encounter with greek and other civilization is still exist nowdays

Long time podcast and youtube lurker. I must say, thank you K&G for providing consistent and thought-provoking content. Keep up the good work!

Man, I've been watching your guys' vids since you made it to the frontpage of reddit that one time a few years ago. Thanks for all the content!

Cantonese here. An absolute MASTERPIECE. I prostrate to your scholarship & production skills. I've never seen such a detailed English summary of Nanman & Baiyue. Only 1 thing, it's Meng Huo not Hou!

@jackjackyphantom8854

2 жыл бұрын

Cantonese are a subgroup of Han-Chinese, isn't it? The Natives of Guangdong and Guangxi were the Tai-Kadai peoples, and Zhuang for example are a surviving indigenous group in Guangxi.

@rqjj1502

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackjackyphantom8854 Cantoneses are mix of Baiyue & Han. Han culture and gene in dominant position. Similar with Hokkiens. People in Guangxi are more similar to Baiyue than Cantonese. The Hakka is the Han immigrant for Central plain.

@rqjj1502

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackjackyphantom8854 The invasion and conquer from Han to Baiyue is long ago which make it impossible to distinguish clearly Han and Baiyue people In China.

@rqjj1502

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackjackyphantom8854 The assimilation start approximatly after Conquer of Baiyue in Han dynasty. At that time the North China (region such as Henan, Shandong) have significant population and economic superiority than south. There are sevaral migration activity from north to south after that for war and natural disaster, which weak the influence of Baiyue in south and move the economic center to south (till today). That is why south Chinese language is so different with the mandarin (which is from north).

@rqjj1502

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackjackyphantom8854 Han Chinese have huge population number advantage than group around because of many reasons, which significantly help to assimilation. These assimilation also amplify the Han or we so-called Chinese. That is why we have so large Han Chinese group today. Similar thing happen on Manchu conqueror. They move to Han culture under the incredibly huge population dominant of Han Chinese. Their area of origin, manchuria, also become Han Chinese region by the migration activity called ChuangGuandong at the last phase of Qing empire.

Wow! This channel makes really high quality documentaries, and this video explained the history of Yue very well!

The art in this video is breath taking. I don't know how you do it.

What a fascinating video. Kings and Generals may just be the most interesting channel on all of KZread.

I am stunned by the level of detail you managed to assemble. I can remember a snippet of history from a recent Vietnamese worker at my job. It was fascinating then and even more so forty years later.

Wow, I really enjoyed this one! Excellent work! Thank you! Thank you!

Thank you for making me aware of this obscure part of history. Very interesting and well put together video.

At last, an episode for the Baiyue people. I used to look for episodes like this as well as like the imjin war. Finally, you created one with a kings and generals version. Great Video!!!

Thanks for the upload. I had been exposed to much of the information before, but this was the first time I was able to see it in a compiled form and in English.

Loved this documentary. Beautiful. So much appreciation for Kings and Generals.

Outstanding production and interesting as always. Thank you so very much.

Our tribe (Biaju/Ngadju)ancestors came from Yunan Region in Southern China...Even now in our island of Borneo, there are hundreds of tribes with different dialects and languages yet share almost identical cultural roots with each others, hence we refer to all of our tribes as D'yak/Dayak (Which means: "People" or "Those who dwell in") then followed by region or villages where it came from. As example, my tribe is Dayak Biaju/Ngadju which means "Those who dwell in inner region of the island" or "People of the inner region". Our closest kin are the Dayak Ot Danum (Those who dwell on the rivers/riverside), and Dayak Bakoempai (Those who dwell on the grasslands).

@juch3

3 жыл бұрын

The more recent out of Taiwan theory is more widely accepted now as it has better linguistic evidence supporting it.

@Patrick-wr9bg

3 жыл бұрын

Yup,dayak people linguistically and culturally related to the Malays and Indonesian ancestor Austronesian people as stated in this video

@Supitcha2023

3 жыл бұрын

Can we understand each other? I am zhuang Nanning Guangxi ( Quang Tay).

@chinmungkuan8551

3 жыл бұрын

I'm from Sabah too , never know or hear dayak from Yunnan . Where you get the info ?

@maryllthemusicman1318

3 жыл бұрын

@@chinmungkuan8551 his info is likely from the older theory of proto-malayic migration down from Yunnan into Sundaland/Maritime SEA while a large genetic component of those living in Western SEA is from these peoples, likely the progenitor of Austroasiatic languages (Vietnamese, Aslian, Cambodian, Munda), the majority genetic component and definite linguistic origin of the peoples of the Malay Archipelago (ergo including the Dayaks in Borneo) is of the Austronesian family that started in South China before moving over to Taiwan around 3000~2000 BC The "Out of Taiwan" theory is currently the newer and more accepted theory of the two

Fascinating! I came for the battles, stayed for the great history and cultural lessons. Well done.

This might just be the information i've been looking for for years

Hah! I remember the Nanman from ROTK 8. Once you conquered the Southwest provinces, they paid tribute to you and offered you Elephants. Thank you for covering China during the this period ^.^

@BritskNguyen

3 жыл бұрын

I hate that campaign, the elephant can knock you down and push you down to a corner and you're dead because when you stand up you're immediately knocked down again.

@sl6706

3 жыл бұрын

ROTK 8 will always be my favorite of the franchise.

@carlosnevarez4003

3 жыл бұрын

@@sl6706 Same here. Lord knows how many hours and smokes I sank into that game 😂

@NobleKorhedron

3 жыл бұрын

ROTK...?

@andymeese8249

3 жыл бұрын

NobleKorhedron Romance of the Three Kingdoms

As a speaker of Cantonese, i can understand some Vietnamese words amongst other words from south East Asian countries. Very interesting 🤔

@gnak2

3 жыл бұрын

well vietnamese do refer cantonese as brothers and more closely related to them than chinese

@charlielee5906

3 жыл бұрын

SCINTILLAM DEI go for it. And it sounds like a rollercoaster cuz it has 9 tones compared to mandarin which has 4 😂

@nguyenquang4707

3 жыл бұрын

Me too some Vietnamese and Cantonese words are suprisingly similar. In addition, my father is Taiwanese and my mother isVietnamese therefore I realize that vietnamese and hokkien (a language is widely used in Taiwan) are quite similar.

@boruizou4285

3 жыл бұрын

@@gnak2 Lmao，I Chinese and cantonese，dont associate me with Vietnam like we are the same people.

@xXxSkyViperxXx

3 жыл бұрын

it is because vietnamese also mainly borrowed from cantonese during classical chinese era

I've read a lot of books about Eastern history and listen to podcasts and other KZread videos about Chinese history and I learned more about the history of this region from your 20 minute video then all of that stuff combined.

A great one to watch. Thanks for your work!

This is easily, the go to channel for world history. I've learned more from this channel in 1 year, than I did in 4 years of schooling. ✌

Kings and General: the craziest part is they let this guy go seven times Me: there’s a man who can control animals like a land aquaman and this is what you are concerned about

@QuangHoang-ps3mm

3 жыл бұрын

Should he be called Terraman ?

@umjackd

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuangHoang-ps3mm AniMan is a hero name that's surprisingly not used yet...

@fern1009

3 жыл бұрын

At least they clarified why the Nanman can use Tigers in the Total War DLC - although I've yet to hear if that feature is turned off or modified on the non-romance mode as with most other elements from a romance run.

@Cassandra_Solidor

3 жыл бұрын

@@fern1009 They are not. Records mode also allows Elephants, tigers and some of the abilities.

@death2denemy

3 жыл бұрын

Lol!!

This is exactly what I was looking for when I saw the Nanman DLC coming. I didn't know anything about them and wanted to educate. This is the best video I have found so far! Thank you Kings and Generals and Total War for sponsoring it! :)

So cool that this topic was covered. I remember reading the book and wondering about these people and what became of them.

This is beautiful! I first read The Romance of the Three Kingdoms when I was about 13 years old (when Dynasty Warriors had picqued my interest), now I'm almost 30 and finally I've got an answer to where the Nanman came from and what happened to them. Thanks K & G!

@DaiMie

3 жыл бұрын

I always wonder who the Nanman were and wonder why I got a weird affinity for them. But I still end up siding with Wu in the end. I never like Shu cuz Liu Bei a fucking cannibal. Fuck that guy.

@chessonso2610

3 жыл бұрын

HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.

@skeptic781

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying your name so there's no confusion

@damiann4734

2 жыл бұрын

They are hiding in Vietnam haha

@BarHawa

Жыл бұрын

@@chessonso2610 Hello, I am Polynesian and descend from Taiwanese aboriginals. Would it be a stretch to say that we're connected?

This is incredibly detailed and I learned a lot about my heritage. Thank you so much for making this!

Really high-quality video. Hope that one day you could make a video about wars in China's Warring States period. That would be fascinating!

this is one of the most important channels in the whole youtube

@KingsandGenerals

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words!

Haven't even watched it and have already pressed the Like button! That's how much I value the content made by Kings and Generals!

@SlayerRiley

3 жыл бұрын

@GoodGirlKate man, you sure love commenting on this channels videos, no blame tho

This might be my favorite Chinese history video. It's so hard to find info on the Yue or really even any historical minority of antiquity, and you not only presented it beautifully, you somehow did it *from the Yue perspective* despite the lack of great sources. Keep the vids like this coming!

The drawings and animations are top notch! love the style

@otgunz

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

Two major aspects of general Yue culture not mentioned in this video are their headhunting (猎首) and affinity for water battles (好水战)。 Also, there's another notable woman warrior among the Yue, who was usually just referred to as the Maiden of Yue (越女) in the historical records. She was an accomplished swordswoman during the Warring States period, said to have come from the "Southern Forests" near or within the State of Yue. She expounded one of the earliest attested martial arts theories in China (complete with application of Yin-Yang concept). She imparted her skills to the State of Yue's army and thus had a hand in helping the State of Yue to conquer the State of Wu.

@tranquil_dude

Жыл бұрын

@江永生 the 越女论剑 story was first mentioned in Han Dynasty records. Afterwards it was also referenced in other places, including a martial arts treatise by Chang Naizhou, all predating Jin Yong's time. Jin Yong's contribution is just that: to turn it into a novel.

@ColoniaMurder20

11 ай бұрын

woman in the Philippines still follow our ancient culture today.. woman in our country always lead our country and hold higher position in government.

@yosudathapa6150

8 ай бұрын

Can you please share more about the headhunting part because, in India the ethnic group of Nagas people has the historical background of headhunting, and they are one of the tribes Communities and according to the folklore and wars tactics they are really good in hiding.

@ColoniaMurder20

8 ай бұрын

@@yosudathapa6150 headhunting is very common among tribes in Maritime Southeast Asia during pre colonial. here in the Philippines we have famous female headhunter tribe against japanese during world war 2.

@yosudathapa6150

8 ай бұрын

@@ColoniaMurder20 oh that's really cool, even here during the British colonial rule they were not able to capture the Nagas area because they were really good in war tactics and they practice headhunting and the person with the highest number of enemies heads are considered as warriors .thank you for the informations

We studied this migration down south theory in the Philippines... (out of Taiwan Theory) Our professor, being an Archeologist and Anthropologist stated how ancient tools dug up was older in the northern parts of the country (Batanes Islands,) but younger to the southernmost regions of our nation... A "pattern of migration southwards." This study is relatively new and alien to most Filipinos, since the accepted version was that our ancestors came from the South....

@xXxSkyViperxXx

3 жыл бұрын

sadly they completely glossed over the philippines again in this video

@duovaduo1653

3 жыл бұрын

Can you suggest me some books on the migration topic 🙏

@duovaduo1653

3 жыл бұрын

@Zhejun Zhang do check out the Naga tribe of North East India, my tribe may be the remnant of the Nanman tribe.

@glennzoo

3 жыл бұрын

In the 19th century it was assumed that Filipino's are descended from Malay's, the Taiwan connection wasn't established yet. Sadly the Philippines didn't catch up with the facts yet.

@duovaduo1653

3 жыл бұрын

@Hernando Malinche How do you know that the Nagas are Sino Tibetan ?

This was a great video on a subject hard to find info on. Having been to Hunan and Guangxi in particular, and seeing the minority people like the Miao and Zhuong it explains a lot. Also the museum in Guangzhou of the tomb of the Nanyue emperor is worth seeing .

The Malays still used that palm wood armor during Portuguese occupation in the Peninsula. We call the wood Kayu Nibong. it is super hard, even the British said this in their records that an 18 century rifle bullet cannot penetrate it. That is why most fort that was build by Indonesian and Malaysian and also khmer used Nibong wood as palisade.

@user-yc4kt8lm2q

Ай бұрын

可以用火呀😂诸葛亮周瑜都用火消灭了南方少数民族

*_LOVE IT! You made nice video.­­_*

All because of LGZ's fantastically exaggerated tellings in the Romance, many historians doubted Meng Huo even existed. Now the reason why Zhuge Liang had fire spewing contraptions was because of the fabled wicker armor (which was probably just Rattan) the Nanman soldiers wore, which incidentally made them invulnerable to attacks while also allowing them to fight with incredible speed and swiftness. This mystical wicker armor made Meng Huo's troops nigh unstoppable but like everything else made of wood was susceptible to fire. So Zhuge Liang needed to find a way to burn Meng Huo's troops, which he did by inventing a anachronistic flamethrower. Zhuge Liang's incendiary weapons by the way was most likely based on the Pen Huo Qi (噴火器) or "fire spraying device". It first made an appearance on the battlefields of China in 919 CE during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period, which took place at least seven hundred years after the Romance of the Three Kingdoms timeline. These types of flamethrowers could shoot a continuous stream of naptha and was a highly effective weapon. They could be used to burn down enemy fortifications, mounted on walls and towers to rain down fire or project walls of flame against incoming hostile forces, and can even be placed on a four wheeled pushcart to sow terror on the battlefield.

@thanhmai2878

3 жыл бұрын

Ho Lee Shi personally I feel like the elephant part is legit because many Viet armies in history were famed for using elephants.

@mxn1948

3 жыл бұрын

@Ho Lee Shi the tigers are probably fake, the elephants are probably real, chinese states in the warring states period used them in war

@fyang1429

3 жыл бұрын

@@mxn1948 the warring states period was over four hundred years before the three kingdoms period, at which elephant was already extinct in northern China. I had read somewhere that they were still used until 5-6 century CE in the southwest though.

@Gongolongo

3 жыл бұрын

@@mxn1948 tigers are real. They just can't be controlled so well to be used in large scale in an army though. War tigers are a thing in ancient China, just not very common.

@Gongolongo

3 жыл бұрын

The flamethrower only has archeological evidence dating back to 919. But most people who study Chinese history know that there are new findings very often proving things that seem anachronistic. For example, Qin Shi Huang Di was thought to be a mythical figure head from 4000 BC. We recently found his necropolis and proved he is real only about 30 years ago. When I was younger, the first Chinese empire with evidence was about 2000 BC. But now we have evidence that shows existence of an empire 8000 BC.

If it weren't for kings and generals I'd never have known of this. Thank You for making such interesting content guys.

I am so glad you are doing this!!

As a Southern Chinese, I have always wondered why our cuisine are way more similar to Vietnamese cuisine in comparison to Northern Chinese cuisine. In addition, some Cantonese words sound more similar to Vietnamese than Mandarin. After watching this video, a thought came to my mind, that I realized that historically all Chinese dynasties were founded in the north along with captials that are always located in the North and that we of the south are always ruled by Northerners. We are a conquered people that are absorbed and assilmilated into the Chinese state. 😂

@hagongda123

8 ай бұрын

又来冒充了？哈哈

@cgm007

8 ай бұрын

你只能代表你自己，湘菜川菜浙菜粤菜真的一样吗？？😅

@hagongda123

8 ай бұрын

@@cgm007 KZread上好多越南人冒充

@Unfrozen_Caveman_Lawyer1

7 ай бұрын

I think history would have taken a better turn if the south ruled instead 😉

@Imyourfather3

7 ай бұрын

你被征服牛魔了 除非你是少数民族，不然自己滚回去查一查家谱， 汉朝时期的南方人口还没一两百万，今天大部分南方人都是北方人移民，特别是东南

Your artist's depiction of that dragon-summoning ceremony will prove the stuff of my nightmares in dreams yet to come. Great video, guys, as usual.

@otgunz

3 жыл бұрын

it is nice to scare you with paper and ink! Thanks for watching! :)

@trisblackshaw1640

3 жыл бұрын

@@otgunz I assume you are the artist? Your work is excellent. Congratulations!

Kings and Generals always coming in the clutch.

@scooterati7066

3 жыл бұрын

Always got the best videos and topics. Learning while being entertained.

@walrus1074

3 жыл бұрын

Jordan-esque

@fungisrock8955

3 жыл бұрын

@GoodGirlKate the second tour lol

@kimjongunchien5652

3 жыл бұрын

@GoodGirlKate This video so wrong about My country Việt Nam because this is history of china write .Everry thing is wrong because china aways p,redatory in every time in history of human. Ancient they p,redatory culture now they p,redatory technology of EU and USA . 1 bilion 400 people so idio,t .jj

@chessonso2610

3 жыл бұрын

HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.

Great video, especially the music and the whole Chinese style!

Thank you for the knowledge Kings and thank you Dynasty Warriors for opening my eyes to Chinese history 🧡

Thank you for doing this!!! Makes me want to play Dynasty Warriors again

Spent a lot of time with Vietnamese people (Southern and Northern). Their history is extremely interesting and the peoples are much more diverse than most assume. The Southern, Northern, Central highland (Montagnard) people are very different from each other.

Amazing content, expertly presented.

I never knew any of this! Thank you for teaching me!

Its very interesting, as someone who is part of the Malayan people group, the possibility that our very culture was once a culture borrowed but forgotten is very fascinating. Especially the tattoo, which are an integral part of all Southeast Asian and Pacific peoples. To have such an influence in our culture - it is surprising to have never heard of the Baiyue. The Baiyue were basically the Pheonicians of the East, colonizing large swaths of maritime Asia and the Pacific.

@but_at_what_cost

8 ай бұрын

百越并不是一个民族，南蛮和百越也不是一回事，这视频懂得一点皮毛就在那里胡说八道。汉语叙事体系称所有南方未开化的人和地区为蛮，夏商时楚地（今天湖南湖北）是南蛮、苗蛮。百越在基因上是接近的，但是发展程度天差地别。5000年的良渚人，也是越人之一，已经有国家形态，建设了全世界最早的水利工程。而汉朝时期（2000年前）的越南还是穴居状态，非常原始。

@MarkzOng

8 ай бұрын

The worst part happening in the southern part of South East Asia is the importation of Arabic culture that has little roots to this region. The folks only want to destroy and assimilate others into the desert belief. Unfortunately many local blindly follow and a lot of historical practice and belief are forgotten or deny.

@ge7sur3nka34

8 ай бұрын

what is malayan culture?.

@MarkzOng

8 ай бұрын

@@ge7sur3nka34 a good example are Tarian Mak Yong and wayang kulit. TMY is even banned in PAS states as it deem unholy ... You probably doesn't even know what's your culture heritage when asking what's the culture. Too bad a lot of folks are brainwashed since young of everything outside of what some 7th century man did is not right. They lack logical thinking or critical thinking for themselves.

@ge7sur3nka34

8 ай бұрын

@@MarkzOng I am from Mori tribe and even tho i know wayang kulit, it is a javanese culture, certainly not mine and malay. Back to my question, what is malayan culture?

Found this video from steam where 3 kingdoms made an post about this video. It is so cool that they did a shout out for a creator

@KingsandGenerals

3 жыл бұрын

Really good marketing team :-)

@ajithsidhu7183

3 жыл бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals can u don one on xiromh ,dong yi ,beidi and others

@lunharphalanx0259

3 жыл бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals Why Didn't You Mention Philippines Do You Hate Us

An amazing and highly informative and educational video!

Great video I first learned of the Nanman from playing Dynasty warriors as a young lad.

"You shall never subdue me Zhuge Liang, Never" - Meng Huo, King of the Nanman

@liveshow123456789

3 жыл бұрын

The broader idea is that it will never subdue the Baiyue people. And to this day it is impossible to subdue Vietnam after 2000 years

@gcyang1939

3 жыл бұрын

then been captured 7 times😂

@liveshow123456789

3 жыл бұрын

Jorel Williams Chinese fiction story. Can't believe anything Chinese

@NoverMaC

3 жыл бұрын

@@liveshow123456789 never is a strong word

@user-be7fh7wi4q

3 жыл бұрын

@@liveshow123456789 Oh yeah? Why believe in Chinese money and sell your women to those poor Chinese peasants?

谢谢. Great to see the fascinating topic of 南蠻/百越 being covered by a KZread channel. In his 2001 work on the genesis of East Asia, Charles Holcombe refers to the migration of peoples "who apparently had their cultural and linguistic roots in the Yue zone of what is now southern China" as "the great age of Yue expansionism".

@tekchoy

3 жыл бұрын

Han expansionism came later. And is still continuing.

learned so much, thanks!

I’m glad you made this video

Gotta give huge props to Devin for constantly striving to get the Chinese and Vietnamese pronunciations right in this video (with the glaring exception of Meng Huo, although I'm certain the error wasn't his fault). My father is Chinese with Minyue ancestry and my mother is Filipino so it looks like I'm of Yue descent both ways. Great video, very informative, thanks for putting this obscure but interesting bit of history out there.

and interesting thing is, the chinese name of Vietnam is "Yue Nan", which means South of Yue

@baochi456

3 жыл бұрын

Or Yues of the South.

@baochi456

3 жыл бұрын

Or Southwards? Cuz Viet/Yue means forward?

@keisukeketa4490

3 жыл бұрын

嘉隆元年（清嘉慶七年，1802年），阮福映建立阮朝。次年表请清朝册封“南越国王”，最终清仁宗嘉慶帝改以“越南国王”之名冊封，阮朝正式国号即为“越南”。这也是越南国名的由来，取代之前的名称「大越」，一直沿用至今。 “ 阮福映表请以「南越」二字锡封。上谕大学士等曰：「南越」之名，所包甚广。考之前史，今广东、广西地亦在其内。阮福映即有安南，亦不过交趾故地，何得遽称「南越」？该国先有越裳旧地，后有安南全壤。天朝褒赐国号，著用「越南」二字，以「越」字冠其上，仍其先世疆域；以‘南’字列于下，表其新赐藩封；且在百越之南，著于《时宪书》内，将「安南」改为「越南」。 ” -- 《嘉庆重修一统志》卷五五三 Năm Gia Long thứ nhất (Năm Gia Khánh Thanh triều thứ 7, 1802), Nguyễn Phúc Ánh kiến lập Triều Nguyễn. Năm sau dâng biểu xin Thanh Triều sắc phong "Nam Việt quốc vương", cuối cùng Hoàng đế Thanh Nhân Tông Gia Khánh đổi tên ra sắc phong thành "Việt Nam quốc vương", Triều Nguyễn chính thức lấy quốc hiệu là "Việt Nam". Đây cũng là nguồn gốc tên nước Việt Nam, thay cho tên cũ trước đây là Đại Việt và dùng cho tới ngày nay. "Nguyễn Phúc Ánh đề nghị xin sắc phong hai chữ "Nam Việt". Các thượng dụ đại học sỹ (những người soạn chiếu thư cho hoàng đế) nói: cái tên Nam Việt vốn bao gồm vùng đất Quảng. Xét theo sử cũ gồm vùng đất Quảng Đông, Quảng Tây ngày nay. Nguyễn Phúc Ánh có được An Nam chẳng qua chỉ là vùng đất xưa của Giao Chỉ, sao có thể gọi là Nam Việt được? Nước ấy trước kia thuộc đất Việt Thường cũ, sau này hoàn toàn nằm trong vùng đất An Nam. Thiên triều nên ban quốc hiệu là "Việt Nam", đặt chữ Việt đứng trước biểu thị vẫn là cương vực đời cũ, ghép chữ Nam đứng sau là tên mới được sắc phong, lại là phía nam của Bách Việt, được ghi trong "Thời hiến thư", vậy đổi tên "An Nam" thành "Việt Nam". "Gia Khánh trùng tu nhất thống chí" quyển 553.

@baochi456

3 жыл бұрын

@@hanyawang4324 nhưng mà theo sử thì có vẻ họ là một liên minh giữa các quốc gia có văn hoá giống nhau? Theo sử thì hai bà trưng còn tập hợp được các quận ở miền Nam Trung Quốc được mà?

@baochi456

3 жыл бұрын

@@hanyawang4324 sử ta thì thế rồi nhưng sử Trung cx chép thế mà ?

Romance of the Three Kingdoms... Thank you Kings and Generals!!

Thank you for the video

Great video and I hate to nitpick, but the Trung sisters of Vietnam rebelled against China’s Eastern Han dynasty in 43 AD, not 43 BC, which would be the Western Han period instead. Otherwise a very informative video. Thanks.

@SonPham-nx3sy

3 жыл бұрын

I think Trung sisters rebellion is biggest part , but Video just focus to total war commercial.

@xwah5016

3 жыл бұрын

Cư dân Mạng lmao ok sure. Blaming on the ccp for that.

@kennywong4239

3 жыл бұрын

@@cudanmang_theog Do you know what is actually the cause of the Trung sister rebellion. It is overglorified by the Vietnamese until the true reason is obscured. Around 25 AD, China's Xin Dynasty just collapsed and the whole country was in turmoil. One of the Trung sister husband was killed by a tyrannical warlord, not unlike something 200 years later. They rebelled for vengeance but later wanted to be warlord themselves (not surprising) but was quell by the Han armies which succeed in uniting the whole China.

@kennywong4239

3 жыл бұрын

@@cudanmang_theog so, what was the ACTUAL cause of the uprising then? You didn't answer the question. Wikipedia stated very clearly it was due to Trung Trac husband being murdered by the tyrannical warlord and she cannot find anyone to address the unjust because the whole of China was in chaos then. There is nothing nationalistic here.

@larryl1517

3 жыл бұрын

@@SonPham-nx3sy There isn' even a battle described. Clearly commercial, lol

This video was very informative.I always wanted to learn more about the Nanman.Also i am glad that their is finally a Three Kingdoms game that is attempting to accurately portray Meng Huo historically.Instead of the human joke he was made out to be in previous titles.

@jackeyarise4870

2 жыл бұрын

I am Chinese, I can tell you exactly that Meng Huo is a virtual character

@stevengreen9536

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackeyarise4870 Then who lead the Nanman back then?

please do one on the yunnnan' lao or dao, people when you can; I just may need to check to see you may already have done it... thanks great stuff. just sub'd!

Hats off to this channel

The Yi people (Tibeto-Burman) of southern China actually recognize Meng Huo as one of their ancestors.

@chessonso2610

3 жыл бұрын

HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.

@mekichiew8282

3 жыл бұрын

@Jacky Phantom well duh, but not like we ain't got baiyue blood in us, heck, historical "han" kingdoms that would pop up from time to time during "China done fucked up" periods still uses their baiyue names (Wu, Min, etc.). Let's put it this way, even if you're only 30% black in the US, that still means you're DESCENDED (Not black, but DESCENDED) from black people. So your argument is moot.

@MRT-co1sd

3 жыл бұрын

@@mekichiew8282 It's more like 2%.

@mekichiew8282

3 жыл бұрын

@@MRT-co1sd Eeeh, i would say it's more like up to 15% the further south you go from SuNan(South of Nanjing, North South divider of China), we're pretty distinctive physically from the northerners.

@magine7682

3 жыл бұрын

as an YI people，i am more like the self-called nationality name “Nasurp”，Menghuo‘s history is stigmatized in pop culture ，especially by the fictional book The Romance of The Three Kingdoms 。and sadly most of the Yi people were assimilated in YunNan province， they’ve forgotten the root of their own culture， lost the identification of the nationality， they are ，most of them ， no different from Han people。 and more，Nasurp has a very unique culture system，mythology，origin，history，religion，language，lifestyle。there are many nationalities have extincted in history，thank god we remain exist （about 10 million population so far）。

Even though I'm part Chinese, I wasn't really interested in Chinese history until Creative Assembly announced the next major Total War game would be focused on the era of the Three Kingdoms a few years ago. Thanks to them and your videos, I've broadened my horizons and learned about the Han Dynasty, the Tang Dynasty and many of the great figures of the Three Kingdoms. I hope you continue to make great videos like this for many more years to come!

@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs

3 жыл бұрын

In the name of Communist Party, you're under arrest.

@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs

3 жыл бұрын

@Remo Gaggi What?

@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs

3 жыл бұрын

@Remo Gaggi That is very strange. Even someone who love foreign culture, the history of your own kind should be "glorify" *cough* American *cough*

Great illustration and explanation thank you

Thanks for this video. I learn more about my ancestors.

Ive been to Viet Nam a few times. The Trong Sisters are considered the first of a long line of leaders who fought for Vietnamese independence that ended with Uncle Ho. They are revered and honored.

@chessonso2610

3 жыл бұрын

The BAI YUE: Ancestors of Southern Chinese people

@balo700

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, the Trung Sisters, not Trong

@Harthorn

3 жыл бұрын

@@balo700 Vietnamese women always strong, in past and in present :)

@Mikelowrey90

3 жыл бұрын

The trung sisters are heroes. Can’t say the same about Ho chi minh

@TheVietarmy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mikelowrey90 wtf Trung sisters rebellition was AD 11 AD 43, ho chi minh was modern vietnam , its fuking odd to compare people at different history

As a Vietnamese who studied history, this is a well made documentary and very well done to you, Devin, Leo and the other Kings and Generals.

@duovaduo1653

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm also a history student from North East India . I'm interested in this migration study, can you suggest some books for further reading 🙏 I'm planning to write a thesis on my tribe. My tribe i.e. the Naga is quite similar with the above mentioned tribe . We are ethnically and culturally akin to the Chinese people

@vunguyenhoang2922

3 жыл бұрын

@@duovaduo1653 As they mentioned in the video, the records of these peoples are rarer than diamond, all we have left are lores and legends. But in our culture, the Hundred Yue (we call them Bách Việt) were mostly eradicated after the Qin and Han's conquests. Only the Lac Viet (our direct ancestors) and Au Viet (ancestors to the people living in modern day Guangxi and Guangdong and the northern parts of Vietnam). I can't suggest any book but maybe you can try contact the Association for Asian Studies, maybe they can help. Good luck to your thesis

@kenh758

3 жыл бұрын

Vu Nguyen Hoang Au Viet are in modern Zhejiang province. They inhabitants were named after Ou River or Ou Jiang (甌江)

Thank you,I enjoyed listening to it.

Total War game sponsoring K and G video is a perfect pairing. I hope they sponsor more of your videos.

Thank you, that was fascinating. My maternal grandmother was a Khasi woman from North East India. I mentioned this to a Chinese teacher, and she said they are related to the Miao. However, I have not been able to find any documentary evidence about that. You mentioned the Miao, and linguistic pockets scattered around. The Khasi greeting is "Khublei" - perhaps it is a link to China and Kublai Khan, who knows.

@youngboi3727

3 жыл бұрын

Khasi people are Mon-Khmer people and closer to Khmer people of Cambodia. They are not related to Miao people. Where do you live now?

@Gloriosus

3 жыл бұрын

@@youngboi3727 Thank you for your reply, Young Boi. I live in Scotland.

Urm, the Miao are natives to the lower yellow and yangtze. We are descendants of Chu.

Epic. Thank you! From Thailand with mixed heritage 🇹🇭🇻🇳🇹🇼🇨🇳🇮🇳🇺🇸🇬🇧🇳🇴

Good stuff, thank you.

Fascinating exploration of this part of Chinese history, particularly in its connexion with neighbouring peoples.

@DanfuLiu

3 жыл бұрын

Now we know why the Viet hates China that much

@SVanTha

3 жыл бұрын

The oldest walled cities in China are actually not from the north, but from the south and from the regions of the Hundred Yue and Nanman. Their ancestors were the first to have large scale rice agriculture which allowed their civilizations to develop into city-states similar to Greece. Archaeological finds not only show the fine metallurgy mentioned in the video, but fine pottery and jewelry (earliest forms of worked jade was found in the south). Evidence from other ancient sites in the north and south showed a series of trade networks. As for the people, the genetic evidence found at ancient sites match those of modern Austronesian and Hmong-Mien speakers. It's very likely that the ancestors of these groups of people made up the Nanman and Hundred-Yue people.

@yeluabaoji7222

3 жыл бұрын

China and russia are the two giant monsters killed and erased many civilization nearby them. The Luo Yue, Lac Viet were the ancestors of the ethnic Vietnamese

@generalvonkek2496

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeluabaoji7222 Nah, they did nothing wrong.

@Intranetusa

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeluabaoji7222 The Lac Viet were ancestors of both modern Vietnamese and modern southern Chinese people. And with southern people such as the Yue tribes migrating north and with different northern Chinese ethnic groups migrating south, they all got mixed over thousands of years. The modern southern Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc people are a mixture of many different ethnic groups due to migration, conquest, etc. As for erasing smaller civilizations or assimilating them, all civilizations and empires that conquer other nations do that.

Despite our tragic loss of the history and (most of) the culture of groups like the Nanman, it's of paramount importance that we continue to spread whatever knowledge we do have of them, I'd say it's doubly important in light of the loss. Even as a child I was frustrated with how most history I came across only focused on the west, with bits and pieces devoted to other areas of the world, and usually told from a clearly biased perspective. KZread, for all it's flaws, has expanded my horizons farther than everything else I read and saw before. I will always hold a space in my heart for those people and cultures that never got to share their experience. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to tell a more complete Human story

@samgyeopsal569

Жыл бұрын

Hokkien and Cantonesw have many basic words which are related to Thai and thus probably remnants of the Nanman/ Baiyue languages.

Thank you for this. I don't think I had ever even heard of these people before this. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)

Beautiful illustrations gang

This was super interesting! As a descendent of the FuJian and GuangDong regions this was really eye-opening and very cool to watch as an Asian American.

Great documentary! I'm an American born in America, our people call ourselves Hmong, known as Miao in China. The Hmong people were a tribe in Laos who allied with America during the Vietnam War, my parents fled Laos into Thailand to seek refuge. Then migrated to the United States as refugees after the war. The last Miao rebellion against China was in the late 1800s. Having lost the war, many fled south into Laos and came with a new name Hmong meaning free.

@kenh758

3 жыл бұрын

A very good possibility that the NanMan name used implied “free” people of the south back then.

@kemuyun5554

Жыл бұрын

苗族最开始生活在中国的黄河流域，我们最古老的民族之一

@stump4522

Жыл бұрын

We Hmong are not Nanman bro. Our ancestor don't ride elephants or tatoo. Although its sounds cool.

@AuomAk

Жыл бұрын

@@stump4522 Who said we were NanMan?

@user-kk1iv3xq1i

Жыл бұрын

苗不是汉的一枝吗？

I love this channel.

finally , great thanks for the nanman content, it really open my eyes that not just Fujian who came to Nusantara archipelago but also Nanman and probably champa change every tribe and ethnic in Indonesia, some of em is Dayak in borneo, who was said from Yunnan, which I think they have similar culture, I might assume it was reversed but idk, it mightbecause huge eruption in Toba and probably Sunda mountain eruptions in west Java in the past, far more than han dynasty.

@sriparameshwara3855

2 жыл бұрын

Yes there is the theory of Yunnan theory migration. Dayak were and are heavily asiatic, Austroasiatic whom themselves originated in Yunnan or southern Yunnan specifically. Each of the migrations of proto Melayu or deutero melayu could have originated from Yunnan, then the Austronesian part starting from the Philippines to Borneo, where they mixed with indigenous like Dayak and further expanded and mixed their genes with proto (ASIATIC,) melayu, leading to the high mix of Asiatic genetic marker in Indonesians and Malaysians, with minor genetic markers of Austronesian from Philippines and Taiwan. We have some of cultural similarity and kinship between NanYue / Baiyue southern China and the rest of Southeast Asia, which are in whole, part of the true descendants of Baiyue whom were not sinicized.

This is beautiful not only because my ethic tribe mien was mentioned but the explanation and illustration of the historical events brought light upon many ancient tribes that still exist today but are forgotten.

Awesome video as always!!! Nitpicking here (aka unnecessary extra context/details): While geographically, the Wu/Jiangnan region is frequently depicted as part of Yue/Baiyue on maps, in reality the region was only briefly conquered and absorbed into the Yue cultural tradition (though influenced nonetheless). Historically, culturally, linguistically, and genetically, the Wu region was almost always within the sinosphere of Great Plains China, albeit on the periphery. The Yangtze area was already colonized since the Shang era by a branch of the Zhou royal family; Wu state was founded by Taibo, uncle of Wen of Zhou, who later conquered the Shang and started Zhou dynasty. The connection between Wu and Baiyue is tenuous at best, and Nanman completely separate. Archaeological evidence supports the early presence of Yue-like peoples in the Zhejiang area, but they were likely driven out or partially assimilated even before the Spring and Autumn period. However, Wu was indeed conquered by Yue after King Fuchai of Wu's betrayal by King Goujian of Yue, backed by the more powerful Chu state. Ironically, Yue was in turn also conquered by Chu shortly after, and their people fled back south to Fujian/Guangdong. While the Yue presence and influence in the Zhejiang/Shanghai region was short lived, somehow Wu and Yue are still often conflated to this day. In practice, the various similarities in culture, language, cuisine, etc. between the various tribes, minorities and modern nationalities of South China/Asia (Cantonese/Yue, Min, Zhuang, Viet, etc.) do not really include Jiangnan culture. In fact, more likely (and lesser known) connections can be made with other sinoxenic groups - ancient Japanese practices bore many similarities to the Wu; the earliest recorded name for Japan is Wa/Wo, and those tribes themselves claimed to descend from Taibo; the oldest system for Japanese pronunciation is Go-on (Wu sound), preceding Kan-on (Han sound), and To-on (Tang sound); and even today Japanese and Wu dialects have noticeable overlap in some vocabulary, cognates, tones, pitches, accents, etc. (as well as with Korean and Middle Chinese). Genetically, Wu/Jiangnan people are coherent with the rest of Han population, and fall between the northernmost and southernmost populations - so they can hardly be considered part of the Yue/South cluster. Keep in mind, most Chinese belong to Han haplogroup(s) i.e. direct male line, due to the long process of southward colonization described in the video. Baiyue ancestry is therefore primarily found through mtDNA (matrilineal descent) or autosomes, and this research does indeed indicate high levels of this ancestry in e.g. modern Cantonese populations, i.e. descneded from male Han settlers intermarrying with the conquered, local Yue women. Speaking broadly, the Jiangnan/Shanghai region seems to have always found itself in a liminal state of affairs; since antiquity existing on the line between "North" and "South" China, and in modernity becoming the most prominent interface between Chinese and Western culture. It's really refreshing to see such a well-researched video on little-known aspects of Chinese history. Would love to see more episodes on the different sub-groups and sub-cultures in China - there is so much more depth behind the apparent monolith that the rest of the world sees!

@DerivativeDrivel

3 жыл бұрын

Another point is the legendary metallurgy also mentioned in the video, was in fact a feature of multiple kingdoms during the Spring and Autumn period (Chu, Wu, and Yue) - and was likely a direct result of geography i.e. access to higher quality copper and tin deposits, bodies of water, etc. as well as culture ("water spirits" inhabiting the blade can be interpreted as a superior method of quenching bronze). Famous swordsmiths of the time were known to travel in search of optimal locations close to ore and water, and settle there to practice their art - often moving between kingdoms in the process, and taking their skills with them to serve under the protection of the local ruler.

Outstanding, mind blowing.