Nandrolone (Deca): Risks and Benefits your Doctor probably didn't mention
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Many clinics are prescribing Nandrolone as an adjunct to testosterone. Here I break down the science behind the risks and benefits of this interesting compound.
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Never mind, you answered my question in the last few min of the video, thank you for the thorough video!
What an excellent video - good length because it is full of lots of good relevant details. Thanks for sharing your personal experience with Nandrolone too - and I hope your chronic pain goes away.
Watched the entire video, absolutely LOVED it! You're insanely knowledgeable! Hoping for more videos in the future!
First time listener. Thank you so much, I'm very happy I came across your information. Thanks and God bless you
Thank you so much for throughly go into details and experience.
Great video. Thoroughly detailed and very reasonable
@manmedicine
9 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Excellent analysis, thank you so much, extremely informative and applicable.
You really deserve more views, feel like I’m watching old Derek from More Plates More Dates just even more medically in depth coming from a medical background. Great stuff. Looking to start nandrolone and/or oxandrolone for my pain/injuries that come along with my manual labor job. I’ll check back in if I end up getting on either/both.
@Roberta_Esposito
4 ай бұрын
I really don’t care for MPMD at all….
@TheProtagonistGabber
3 ай бұрын
@@Roberta_Esposito I lost all respect for Derek when he started selling bullshit supplements. Turkesterone and a test booster in particular.
@jaimenazaryan860
3 ай бұрын
OXANDROLONE is not even close to nandrolone when it comes to joint relief
@johnmoore1495
3 ай бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 oxandrolone is more preventative from what I’ve found.
I appreciate videos like this so that I can learn more and read other peoples experiences in the comments section. I’m 35 and have been consistently barbell training for 6 years. Definitely made some decent gains but ultimately plateaued and and cousins figure out what was going on. My strength coach suggested I get my T levels checked and glad I did. My total test (after 2 different tests on 2 different days) was around 230 (super low) It took about 4 months for my doctor to figure out my weekly dose of cypionate (they currently have me at 210mg per week) and then 3 weeks ago they started me on 200mg of deca that is mixed in the syringe with the cypionate. Long story short , so far I’ve added about 35lbs to my squat and bench (deadlifts still ain’t shit) but my physique has changed quiet a bit. I look a lot different and the test has allowed me to grow a huge beard lol Love it 😁
Great vidoe and explained well. Keep doing vidoes on all different compounds. And thank you
I brought this up on a trt based podcast like 4 years ago and got a lot of hate for it. People don't like it when you call their baby ugly. Just brought up the fact there are risks in volved and should be part of the consideration when thinking about use. Great info
I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts on Enclomiphene and/or Clomiphene in a future video, Doc!
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
That one is on my list. Spoiler: enclomiphene is much better...
@jakerusty123
Жыл бұрын
Enclomiphine is great! 12.5 mg 3 x a week my LH and FSH are high normal range. No e2 increase
Low estrogen and low DHT causing ED vs the minor prolactin inc - that makes a lot more sense thank you
man i had no clue about this pain study, that is huge! i'd maybe consider it if i wasn't so absurdly sensitive to gyno
Thanks for putting this together; great stuff. Something that jumped out at me during your video is that you did not take into consideration the cardioprotective nature of estrogen for those on TRT, mitigating most all of the concerns for those who would add a therapeutic dose of Nandrolone to their protocol. The rat study was strictly Nandrolone monotherapy.
Excellent episode. Thanks for sharing the science behind nandrolone and risks/benefits/alternatives. I'm about 3 months into TRT at age 49. Still working on dialing in my Test dosage, but I have been struggling with exercise recovery and joint pain. I have high SHBG (82 nmol/L), which presents a challenge. My total T is 900, but my free T % is still 1.1% (10.2 ng/mL). We're pushing my dose from 100 mg per week to 140 mg per week. After my T dosing settles, I'll plan on discussing nandrolone with my doc, if I continue to struggle with joint pain and exercise recovery. I've had a couple of DEXA scans done and my bone density score is -1.2 to -1.4, indicating osteopenia. If convenient, are there any high quality studies that quantify the benefits of nandrolone on bone health?
Please keep us in the loop if the lower dosages yield the same results
Great info keep it up!
Absolutely grt❤️🏅
Great information
30 years on and off lifting and gesr usage aged 52..heavy deads and squats over time ..damaged discs and facet joint ..just had facet nerve burn and about to hop back on npp for the pain wich ive been told wonnt ever go compeltely away ..wel i can say that deca shifts it 90% the only reason i cmse off it was to have cirtisteroid injections and trails to see if they wrked ..and im planning getting off all these opioids and other pain killers very near future ..sticking to my 300 test 150 npp and 150 primo ..greta video
I really love nandrolone also same feedback and similar story, the only negative outcome I’ve experienced is an increased resting heart rate by about 10bpm and slightly increased LDL
Thank you!
You are good personal experience is the key
What are your thoughts and opinions about Bpc-157 and sermorelin? I’ve had 13 orthopedic surgeries, injuries, including 5 on my spine, etc. I might run a bit of eq and deca to help with muscular skeletal issues, dry tendons and aches. My current blood labs vs symptoms are all out of wack from necessary pain management meds (shbg). Clomid helps prevent my estrogenic effects but I feel like shit. HGH is way too pricey and pain in the ass going the big pharma/big medical insurance route. Thanks!
Love me some deca!
Thank you for your channel doc. Can you do an in depth look into the morbidly obese on trt please? I’m in that category myself. I started trt some 10 weeks ago at 410lb. I’m currently 380lb. My dosing is 160mg weekly with 0.25mg Anastrozole. I’ve experienced joint discomfort and would love to supplement about 50mg Deca weekly. Right now my dose is SubQ once weekly. I have maintained a total T of 1300ng and Free T of 390pg. My E2 is 45, SHBG 34, and other labs are good. BP is steady and normal. My current bf% is 42 and dropping. I believe the AI keeps my test high (of course). And now I’m looking to alleviate joint issues and continue my recomp. Again, thank you for your contributions and information.
Been using 200mgs weekly deca with my TRT for about 5 years now. Those two compounds together are great! So much aches and pains gone now. My primary recommended adding it on to my TRT so its pharm grade. Didn't change any blood markers and my yearly ECHO is good, but I did also add 40mgs of telmisartan to it a few years ago for the LVH.
@manmedicine
6 ай бұрын
Awesome. It has really helped my joint pain. I can actually sleep on my shoulders now ;)
@jaimenazaryan860
16 күн бұрын
what was the testosterone dosage that u have been using with 200 mg deca ,,, also how is your libido ? ever notice any erectile disfunction ? ever experienced any side effect during this 5 years ? thanks in advance
This was excellent. Just discovered your channel. I shall be back :)
Wow doc, im sorry you have had so much pain. Glad your feeling better. Ive been suffering from tarsal tunnel syndrome in both feet for years. Its debilatating. Think nandrolone could help?
Have you seen or reviewed what Taeian says about solo NPP Cycles, especially not to go over 3 weeks?
Awesome video! I’m on week 3 of 1:1 Test/Deca (120mg). Shoulder/elbow/knee injury problems seem nonexistent. 80% less crunching which was unexpected but I noticed it right away (squats,presses,etc) I’m 41 and should have done this immediately following my injuries in August 2019. Follow up labs in a few weeks- I’ll see what it’s done to my blood then. Thanks again for the video
@jayelee7176
Жыл бұрын
I'm on week 2 of 500mg test e & 300mg deca ( first time using deca ) i wasn't expecting to ' feel ' anything yet but from about 8 days on i feel a massive surge of energy and i have a crazy pump 24/7 ( in a good way ) my shoulders and back have got bigger already which is crazy to say so soon into cycle but they have... just wondered if this is your experience too ? I'm assuming it's the deca as i've never felt this strong or pumped off test e before.
@Brian_Life
9 ай бұрын
How were your labs?
@justinhignite8944
3 ай бұрын
Good to hear it acts so quickly, I was under the impression it would take a couple months to feel the joint benefits.
Great content .. a video on bodybuilder taking arbs like thelmasartan would be cool.
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
I did one early on but I should probably do an update video
Could you do a video on NPP please
Thanks for making this video great perspective, one question do you plan on staying on this long term at a low dose?
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
Only if all of my cardiac risk factors remain optimally controlled.
New to channel. Great information 👍 thank
Would love to hear the follow-up on this, including bloods and weather you intend continuing with this long term? I have tried adding Nandrolone to my trt protocol due to arthritis in my spine, with very promising results. I have just been trying to weigh up the long term health risks and sustainability in comparison with the boat load of pain medication Nandrolone seems Abe to completely replace.
@manmedicine
2 ай бұрын
I'll be doing an update soon. Waiting on some updated blood work!
Would like to see head to head Deca only to Test only at the dosage of most of those studies. Test at 1000mg etc. Would have to wonder if Test alone at 1000mg/w would come back as looking “negative” also.
This was so good I had to listen to it again. What are your thoughts on it tensing to cause mental side effects such a depression, anxiety, aggression and lack of pleasure? I see a lot of guys reporting in this but it seems more related to cycles vs TRT doses. I agree with you I’ve been slowly giving the a try and so far only noticing improvement in pain and I’m bit more hungry and this has been at 10mg every other day. But it’s only been about two weeks. My script is for 75mg a week so I think I’m going to slowly bump it up until I get there and see how it goes.
@drdrew8397
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I haven't experienced any emotional side effects, but like with anything, using high doses (especially crazy high bodybuilder doses) could potentially cause problems.
@kovenantsreeftank1317
6 ай бұрын
That's a mental induced thoughts. But that doesn't happen on Deca and Test. Maybe if you mix it with something else.
I started using nandrolone as part of my TRT about a month ago. I’ve been taking 25 mg twice a week so far I’m not sure that I’ve noticed anything in terms of pain relief, but I did seem to gain about 10 pounds and what seemed to be about 10 to 14 days I feel just as good as I did before with my testosterone by itself that is being taken at 37 mg a day yes that is higher than the typical TRT do but I’m also aggressively cutting bodyweight and using little bit of Ozempic so I’m trying to do everything I can to hold onto the lean tissue
I see this video is a year old but i wanted to address an issue I had on NPP. My AST ALT were elevated on two blood draws on cycle. I was running 300 npp and 750 test with anastrozole @ 3 mgs a week. I could visible see the distention in my upper abdomen under the rib cage. Now, almost three weeks later, the distension is gone and I'll draw labs in a couple more weeks. Is this an issue you've heard of on NPP?
Talk about the effects of Nandralone decanoate on Lipoprotein (a)
If you had to choose between nandolone and test for HRT, which one would you choose? (at low doses) no 400-600mg craziness
12 days in 4 total injections. 400 Cyp 200 nandrolone dec. Hours after injections i’ve been getting almost pump level swelling in adipose tissue, like I OD’d on sodium or something. Fluid retention, neck muscles, shoulders, arms and chest feel tight. Only thing that will solve it is a diuretic. 4-5 hours after that I am back to normal. Ive run a decent amount of gear before 750+ test + Tren, and a litany of other compounds. Now im 39 y/o and keeping it light so was surprised to get such a reaction. High BP but regulated on ACE inhibitor Lysinopril. Recently had bloodwork done for 140mgs weekly of TRT and my iron was crashed for some reason. Anyways, doesnt seem to be something common. BMI is the highest I have been though 20+, so could be the issue. Rambling now but was curious someone’s thoughts. Also, awesome video. Thanks for your thorough insights and detail. Super informative.
I've been on 120mg cyp per week for the last 3 years. I'm 50. Just recently added in 60mg of NPP in. Joints feel great, no change in BP but I do get a little bloated if I go heavy on the carbs. If I keep carbs a little lower, all is OK. I'm having a CT scan soon just to keep an eye on things. BP is 119/70 (last reading) My current protocol is 120mg cyp, 40mg taken on Monday, wed and Fri. 60mg NPP, again taken 3 x per week (20mg) 750iu HCG, taken 3 x per week 250iu each time and 5mg cialis daily. Bloods taken every 3 months. No issues.
@superpoacher6711
3 ай бұрын
HCG? Your 50 You plan on having kids🤣
@thefatlosscode365
3 ай бұрын
no mate, got 3 but i like my balls not to shrivel up like raisins, but thats just me :) and it's you're. @@superpoacher6711
@umairiqbal8323
2 ай бұрын
How about deca dick issue?
I enjoy 150mg npp when on bulk cycle… made the mistake of going straight to 150 last cycle and had a bad nip flare up
I was wondering, I’m 46, will this 2 month cycle also put on muscle?
Im confused where you got your answer at @ 18:15 if its dosed at 2mg/kg and you weight 100kg that’s only 200mg not 1000mg of deca
I used deca only at 900mg and my libido was awesome. No prolactin issue no ED issue. 🎉
@jaimenazaryan860
16 күн бұрын
how was it when u stopped?
@CoachedByRoland
16 күн бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 testicular atrophy and no speem. no ED issue
Always get blood work it’s very important. As long as you’re using responsibly and not abusing you should be good especially if you don’t use toxic compounds like tren
Where are these clinics
Very informative like most of these treatments it's educated known trade offs !.I feel where you are at with the pain and aging as a former high-level rugby player ( who played way beyond my expiration date ) add on Greco-Roman wrestling! Day to day shits appearing! I am the only person I know who can get sleeping injuries
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
I'm still feeling my 4 years of college rugby🤣
@deanpaulson6714
Жыл бұрын
@@manmedicine I played from. 10 to 42 🤣🤣🤣 everything was fine till my mid 40s🤣 my ex wife ( family practice doctor ) " This will catch up w you " 🤣🤣🤣 she was right 🤣 she's been right about a lot of my bad choices 🤣 sometimes we don't listen. 🤣
@deanpaulson6714
Жыл бұрын
@@manmedicine probably doesn't help that I started a moving business IN FLORIDA 100 degrees plus most days 🤣
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
@Dean Paulson But if you do everything doctors tell you you'll never have any fun! 😉
@seanthundercock6770
Жыл бұрын
@@manmedicinewww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4576214/#:~:text=Maior%20et%20al.,of%20QTc%20interval%20in%20human. Can you confirm if this study is legit and your thoughts on it ?
I bought some deca and started looking into it and got freaked out with people saying they have alot of mental side effects like depression and paranoia jealousy with a dose as low as 100mg/week. I wasn't going to blast a relatively moderate dose actually.
I have used nandrolone with trt for years - generally 1-1 ratio but also going higher on nandrolone. I feel amazing. The only downside was that it did raise my BP about 5 points. I am still under 130/80 so I’m good. I come off for about 6-8 weeks every 4-6 months but my understanding is that this is not necessary.
@manmedicine
9 ай бұрын
That's great. As long as your blood markers are in the green and you feel great it's hard to argue with that.
@archivaldogutierrez7439
3 ай бұрын
My best bulking cycle was with 200 mg / WK spread in 3 doses. Tren ace 100 mg , anavar and test E . For 16 WK then had to do pct. Amazing results for me. Only con was aggression from tren. But it was worth it with the results
@jaimenazaryan860
16 күн бұрын
what are you dosages please
@13Ambro
15 күн бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 I was doing 200 nandrolone and 50 testosterone per week total. Just switched to 80 nandrolone, 70 testosterone and 60 Primabolin cause I had some primo. Better for fat loss. The nandrolone based protocol was great for mass and joints.
Does the prolonged QT interval return to normal after discontinuation of deca? Do the potassium channels upregulate?
@manmedicine
6 ай бұрын
Yes it does.
Curious if he was taking naproxen right after his lumbar surgery and thereafter? Naproxen inhibits the growth of the bone for the spinal fusion. When I had my spinal fusion I found naproxen helped and my orthopedic explained to me why I shouldn’t take it. Now two decades working with spinal neurosurgeons in my career and they all inform their patients to stay away from naproxen because until a year post surgery
@manmedicine
11 күн бұрын
Nope, no NSAiDs after surgery, and I had bone morphogenic protein not a bone graft so it should have worked
Great info Doc. Can nandrolone legally be prescribed for chronic joint pain by a TRT clinic?
@manmedicine
4 ай бұрын
Yes it can and it frequently is.
Can other pre-existing conditions be affected with the use of nandrolone such as ; left or right bundle branch blockage?
@manmedicine
8 ай бұрын
It's not been studied to my knowledge, but I suspect depending on what is causing the BBB that very high doses could have an effect.
i've also heard of someone getting anadrol prescribed too which is wild
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
That's insane
@zmb5501
4 ай бұрын
Well its good if you have anemia
Should a man with a left branch block avoid nandrolone?
My dr fixing prescribe me this and test 370 test a week with 200mg nano, I am under weight I only weight 149 at 6'4, would I see some good muscle gains after 6 months eating right and a lot weight training.
key is ...low Deca 100mg per week...speaking from a TRT point and Sust around 200 or so ...its personal and depends on how long you have been on gear. a little proviron and some good supps.....maybe a little HCG once in a while for the Leidigs...you pretty much need to fing the spon on your own as most docs have zero idea
Doc, what is the success rate for minimally invasive herniated disc surgeries nowadays? If one can live with it but it prevents some activities, would it be approved for a surgery or too dangerous?
@manmedicine
6 ай бұрын
I'm not up on the latest stats, but my understanding is the overall success is the same as conventional procedures in the long run, but the recovery and post-op pain is less. At least that was the case when I had my lumbar fusion.
Quick question, im planning a test e/ nandrolone mixed cycle. Are there any AI i need on hand? Or any meds that would counter any side effects? I tried to do my own research, but i either find bro science or terminology i dont understand. I know i should do my due dilligence, but i dont have time to learn complex biology. And id rather have an opinion from someone who knows.
@manmedicine
10 ай бұрын
You know as a doctor I'm going to advise you not to do steroid cycles. Having said that it is my opinion that AI use in men is unhealthy, unnecessary, and potentially harmful and should be used sparingly if ever.
@BobHarlie
10 ай бұрын
@manmedicine that fair enough, I understand you don't want to advise anyone and it's understandable. I'm just struggling to find the correct info hidden among the bro Science, I just need to know what effects I need to combat, When I was 24 a friend sourced me some test, didn't know a thing was to nieve, did 0 pct as I didn't know. And resulted in thinner hair ontop for life. So I just don't wanna wake up with tits or something you know. Thanks for a reply doc.
@DrewPWebos
5 ай бұрын
@@BobHarlieif you need an AI than your Test dose/protocol is too high my friend. I think a good place to start when using TRT is a 100 mgs or 1/2 cc assuming its US pharma test 200 mgs per ml/cc.
@sk8orhate55
Ай бұрын
@@BobHarlie you sound like a younger me. Stay away lol. Get a doctor like this guy and have him help ya get your markers back right 💪. I swear it ain’t worth it. In my 20s i thought I’d live forever. At 27 and 29 i got a dvt in my left leg and after the second time I’m on xarelto blood thinner for life. Im only 32. All of a sudden not feeling so invincible anymore, reality/life hits hard on life’s terms .I can’t get my numbers back up naturally bc i wrecked them in the past. Was blasting and cruising on and off from 24-29.. you thought i would’ve learned my lesson after the first clot, but once you feel and see yourself going to shit , ya gotta choice to make and i went back on. My hematologist doesn’t know shit about testosterone, told me to get off of it at 29 and that I’m gonna die if i continue. So the past 3 years I’ve been in the lowest rock bottom of my life, and I’m stuck . I can’t find doctors to work in cahoots with each other and i just don’t know wtf to do or who to ask or go to . My doctors have time and time again failed me.
So my guess is since NPP is basically deca then the side effects are the same
Great open and honest reporting. Are you having any sexual side effects from the nandrolone ? What do you expect to happen if you dc the nandrolone ? Or are you planning to take long term ?
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
None whatsoever. As long as there is a testosterone base it shouldn't be an issue. Unless my lipids get worse I'm going to remain on it though I'll be cutting my dose in half to see if I can get the same effect in terms of pain relief.
@jakerusty123
Жыл бұрын
@@manmedicine can I ask have your T levels and Free T levels gone up and to what level ? Any issues with RBCs ?
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
@@jakerusty123 I have blood work scheduled this week so I'll drop a short video when I get the results back.
Hey great video thank you very much. I'm suffering from chronic tendon pain in my whole body from antibiotics. My quality of life is gone completely. can you please tell me if an leaky aortic valve stage 1 is an absolute no go for 50-100mg nandrolone ?thank you very much
@manmedicine
11 ай бұрын
I'd probably avoid it if it was me, but if I did use it I would want to be closely monitored by a cardiologist.
@Luketheman93
11 ай бұрын
@@manmedicine Yeah hard decision I can't work my job nor can I work out it's rough. anyway thank you
@nolanwardy7409
2 ай бұрын
@@Luketheman93Cipro was the antibiotic you took I’m assuming.
@Luketheman93
2 ай бұрын
@@nolanwardy7409 levofloxacin another toxic fluorchinolone antibiotic I bet you know it too
What about thickening blood? The Anabolic doc put out a video the other day that for some ppl Deca raises Crit and Hgb considerably. I know I use 60/40 Test E/Deca 2x a week and I have noticed my blood gets thick super quick between red cross donations..I have to drink one gallon of water b4 just to be under the 20g/dL cutoff lol!
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
It can cause erythocytosis, though less so than testosterone (theoretically) so it's just something to be monitored as it doesn't happen to all men and is generally not a big deal.
@the_task_master3470
Жыл бұрын
@@manmedicine I have to donate every 2 months to keep mine down unfortunately but it is what it is haha.
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
@the_task_master you should check out the video I did on blood donation. Most of the time blood donation is unnecessary and can lead to problems down the road.
I’m 52 stage four arthritic right hip left hip looks good. Arthritic knees, lower back arthritis facet joint arthritis in the cervical spine. My doctor said my spine looks about 80-year-old man. Start a 25 mg of deca on top of my low-dose TRT my test levels are good up in the 900 range all other labs, good thyroid, good but the amount of relief that I’m getting in all my arthritic joints is amazing at only a dose of 25 mg a week. I can actually walk 100% better!
@manmedicine
16 сағат бұрын
That's incredible
@terminator3728
13 сағат бұрын
@@manmedicine it is. It should be in every orthopedic office as a protocol.
@terminator3728
9 сағат бұрын
@@manmedicine any thoughts about how long I could keep this dose up? Not looking for medical advice.😉
I wonder if adding nandolone to trt can help prevent hairloss. Its supposed to increase collogen and converts to DHN not DHT. Not saying it blocks the DHT conversion from test , but maybe the increase in collogen and DHN conversion helps keep hair? Who knows? All i do know is test wasnt used in golden era bodybuilding Dbol and deca were used without test and there wasnt gyno or hairloss until test came into the scene. Test, and Deca dont mix well for most ppl at blast doses. But seems to be tolerable if doses are both kept around that 200mg range or lower. I did notice last time i was on 300 test 300 npp and 300 masteron . My erections were great on test and masteron but as soon as i added npp after a month in, my erection quality dropped significantly. It seems theres a very tricky ratio for each individual and its not a 1 size fits all
@manmedicine
4 ай бұрын
Well if it can prevent hair loss, I missed the boat on that one! lol
@user-co2db1ql3u
4 ай бұрын
Lol. You and many others my friend. Your channels great by the way great info. Also I got alot of my info about nandrolone from Taeian Clark. He's known as the deca guy. You might enjoy some of his stuff. He's about all around better health. But also works with bodybuilders. He just released some new found info on an old steroid that is hair safe, doesn't shut your natural test down and isn't liver toxic. A steroid we've all been told is horrible for you and He's tested it with some clients and no shedding of hair , and after blood work natural test hadn't dropped. The steroid is Halotestin of all things. Ya I know!! 🤯
@jaimenazaryan860
16 күн бұрын
did you had any hair loss when u were on test masteron ?
@user-co2db1ql3u
15 күн бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 hmmmm... I can't remember but I believe I had some shedding for sure. It's a small amount. Like I'm 40 and pretty much no hairloss until I started doing gear again. So what I'm trying to say is I'm not that prone to hairloss, but I experienced shedding on.. Tren and test, test and Masteron, test and primo but very little. Test, primo, var it started coming out worse. Doses I never go over 300 mgs per compound. I now am going to try test cyp only at 210 mgs a week divided into Mon,wed,Fri, and see if shedding stops , if not I'm going to run finasteride 1mg 3 times per week same days as my shots to stop hairloss in its tracks and cycle anavar every second month at 25 mgs before workouts. Or other option is Deca as TRT for life and not needing finasteride at all and sprinkle dbol every second month for month cycle to break plateaus? Just here in Canada my deca is a UGL lab that I'd need to get my TRT from. Where if I make test cyp work for TRT it's free with my health coverage but if I take test I may have to take finasteride anyways and fina isn't covered and costs about as much as my UGL Deca and it's 350 mgs per shot 💉. So it's a dilemma on what to do. Deca by itself is great. I've tested it the side effects are less then testosterone. No gyno fear , erections are fine just not as interested in sex as test which is kinda nice 👍🏻. And no fear of hairloss if that's a worry for you? Some dudes pull off bald, but if you gotta weird shaped head like me balds not an option
ps never inject test and the Deca in one syringe...separate shots ...test and day after or before Deco ....huge difference
@ivandolic
Ай бұрын
Can I get more info about that?
@jaimenazaryan860
16 күн бұрын
explain why in details please
@Noah-hq5rs
14 күн бұрын
Nonsense.
@igorveinybeastilles5066
5 күн бұрын
Maybe becouse blood pressure
@jaimenazaryan860
5 күн бұрын
@@igorveinybeastilles5066 testosterone alone rise blood pressure more than deca ,,,, so if you add 200 MG deca to 200 MG testosterone you will have less blood pressure than if you just inject 400 MG testosterone
I am using test and deca . 250ml test 200ml deca a week. I have a condition called hereditary paraplegia and arthritis in my lower back. The deca helps alot with the pain . But I will not be on this for a long time.
@manmedicine
10 ай бұрын
I'm glad it's helping. Those are bigger doses, so just make sure your doctor is monitoring you closely.
@zmb5501
4 ай бұрын
That's hefty trt+
What about npp?
Would the heart have these same issues with comparable doses of T Cypionate?
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
Great question. Turns out testosterone (at least in rodents) actually does the opposite and could therefore be beneficial.
This stuff helps Osteoarthritis and joint pain Then why on earth isn’t my doctor prescribing it???
Can you take nandrolone with your T subQ?
@manmedicine
8 ай бұрын
Yep sure can
Your thoughts on 120 trt and 40mgs nandrolone per week? All pharma dr prescribed.
@manmedicine
5 ай бұрын
Seems like reasonable doses to me
@DrewPWebos
5 ай бұрын
@@manmedicine in for blood work as I type. I finished 1 10ml nandrolone have another but ill just stick with TRT dose at 120 mgs only. Sometimes less is more. I'm focused now on cleaner eating, weights and cardio 150 minutes per week. Thanks 👍
Interesting. My L4, L5 disc's are flat and have facet joint arthritis mostly on the right side L4/L5. I was getting facet joint ablations done every 12-18months which werent cheap. One time i just couldn't afford it but decided to try some deca at 200mg/wk for 8-10 wks. It worked just as well as the ablation and pain relief lasted for awhile after i finished the deca. I find now i can do 1x 8 week cycle at 200mg/wk helps me for about 12 months. My trt dose is 150mg but i do find i tend to aromatise more with higher T than deca ie extra fluid retention, deca dick stuff. So i find keep my test lower when running deca helps, usually around 75mg/wk of testosterone when running deca. I also take 25mg of dhea per day which I've found also helps with estrogen production. I have wonder if one could run deca solo and use higher dhea dose like 50-100mg a day to get enough estrogen and it cardiovascular and neuroprotective effects but unsure if theres any dht conversion from dhea?? Another benefit is it does help both my knees which ive had meniscus repairs on. Whoever said sport was good for you, didnt tell the whole truth.😂
@manmedicine
5 ай бұрын
Glad you are doing better. I definitely would advise against using Deca solo. You won't get enough E2 or DHT from the DHEA. Testosterone should always be in the picture for optimal health.
@dansmith9724
5 ай бұрын
@@manmedicine Agree, wised up since then. Always test.
Bro had me in the first 20 seconds
How can you test for a prolonged QT?
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
A simple EKG in your doctors office.
@stephenclark8142
Жыл бұрын
@@manmedicine Thanks! I really got alot out of this video! Appreciate it
@seanthundercock6770
Жыл бұрын
@@manmedicine how long does the nandrolone 480 mg week increase the QT interval by in milliseconds ? Can torsades de points revert to sinus rythm or will it go into ventricular fibrillation I just know a guy who uses 480 mg nandrolone . He said he had higher blood pressure.
Just wanted to give a strange side effect I had taking Nandrolone. I am on 280 mg of Testosterone[T] and 140 mg a week oo Nandrolone[N]. In the first 6 months on this, my hazel eyes turned emerald green and my eyelashes turned blond from black. What was also interesting is the eyelash color abruptly changed back to black and I could see the abrupt color transition line and that grew out over next ? 3 months. The eye color faded back to hazel but no noticible abruptness.
@manmedicine
4 ай бұрын
Wow thats crazy. I've never heard of anything like that.
19mg/kg in rats is not that much. You haven’t accounted for inter-species differences. Rats to humans is 0.162. So for a 100kg male that would be 10mg x 100 x 0.162 = 162mgs
Damn even zofran can prolong your Q-T wave but we cant walk around with a 12 lead on us all the time. LOL
good stuff but that dam phone buzzing...
@manmedicine
Жыл бұрын
Lol I know...didn't even notice until afterwards. Airplane mode next time!
18:20 incorrect, 2mg per kilogram of bodyweight and you weigh 100kg would be exactly 200mg, not 1000mg.
2 mg per kg, in 100kg male is 200mg dose
ED ist myth?))) Thre times i try NPP/TEST/MASTERON cycles. First high Test, 300 NPP, 400 Mast, second 300/300 Test/NPP and 600 Mast, third low (TRT) dose of Test, 300 NPP, 400 Mast. Numbers - weekly dose. And every time at week 5-6 my litle friend is died. Estradiol, Prolactine, Progesterone everytime was in range.
Isnt Sustanon most prescribed and best in TRT, in Europe?
@michelrood2966
Ай бұрын
What tf are you even talking about?
@bogse
Ай бұрын
@@michelrood2966 The sentence is very clear so I really dont know what part you didnt understood.
You mention 10mg/kg as being a huge dose, but aren't you supposed to divide by 6.2 for the human equivalent? 10mg/kg per week in rats, divided by 6.2 comes out to 130mg per week for an 80kg(176lb) human.
Where to get some real stuff??? Real stuff!
@zmb5501
4 ай бұрын
Trt clinic
@bob-bg2ym
4 ай бұрын
@@zmb5501 yes?
The math is off. If they give rats 2mg per kilogram. A 100kg man would get 200mg. 2x100
@jaybrown8709
2 ай бұрын
Ok. I see later you change it to 10mg per kg
jesus christ you got a lot of injuries. I thought I was fucked haha.
@manmedicine
2 ай бұрын
I've had a rough life and I'm not very smart ;)
@mrcadoia
2 ай бұрын
@@manmedicine im 52. not very smart either. former national champion in karate. trained elite level and destroyed my body in many ways. plus I got shot in the arm in a robbery. 4 NDE's. Still you carry more injuries than I do haha. Amazed you still look athletic and maintain a good physique as motivation goes down the drain with pain/injuries. Im struggling to come back to decent shape. Started T base micronized powder mixed with DMSO applied to scrotum. Everything feels better. I wanted to add NPP same way because of injuries and wish for more anabolic results but this videos basically talked me out of it. Liver is already turned fatty and NPP will make it worse. Not sure if you already did a video on choline/inositol for fatty liver? just found the red yeast video. im looking at Niacin for triglycerides too. Any links/feedback appreciated. Either way well done staying motivated. keeping will power. despite all these injuries. Most would have cracked.
Is Nandrolone even still available to be prescribed? I look it up on GoodRx and it says it has been discontinued and no longer manufactured.
@CaseyPlexy1
Ай бұрын
Yes just ordered some from my clinic last Friday.
Animal dosages don’t translate literally into human doses. 10mg per kilo for a rat, translates to around 2mg per kilo for a human adult. The human equivalent in those studies is 200mg per week. Not 1000mg.