Nakamichi Dragon vs Technics RS-B965 (W&F test)

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Nakamichi Dragon vs Technics RS-B965 (W&F test)

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  • @GREENTICKETRO
    @GREENTICKETRO4 жыл бұрын

    I think,most off the 3 head cassette decks are very good...if some they are good or less depends...is pretty subjective!I prefer Aiwa&Akai,especially they are looking pretty nice,fabulous,not so expensive and recording very good....Revox is very good but,is not looking very nice vs Pioneer ct f series vs akai gx f series,some Dual (c 844) etc....i think every deck is unique ,with + and -....!Anyway,i am very happy to see people sharing stuff's like this!

  • @Badassvidsz
    @Badassvidsz5 жыл бұрын

    Both great decks anyway :-) Merry Christmas to everyone :-)

  • @gitarka6037
    @gitarka60374 жыл бұрын

    Słuchałem obydwa modele . To są stare wyeksploatowane urządzenia . Tylko całkowita wymiana mechanizmu na nowy może pokazać ich możliwości . Do tego dochodzi elektronika . Ona również wymaga dokładnego sprawdzenia . Słuchałem także Teac 8030 , Akai gx 95 . Ten ostatni spełniał moje oczekiwania . Choć ząb czasu i na nim wyrył swoje piętno . Kupiłem niedawno Tascama ( nowy ) . Nie podbarwia ani nie upiększa dźwięku .I to jest jego zaleta . Wymienione wcześniej magnetofony niestety dźwięk " upiększały " . Szkoda że nie produkuje się tamtych urządzeń . To była złota era magnetofonów . Pozdrawiam fanów magnetofonów i gramofonów .

  • @gitarka6037
    @gitarka60374 жыл бұрын

    I prefer Technics .Its simply .Sound for me is better . For me .

  • @bakonjafrabrne11
    @bakonjafrabrne115 жыл бұрын

    Beauty&BEAST...:-)

  • @kozkoz7776
    @kozkoz77763 жыл бұрын

    Im asking your opinion on the tanberg3014A. I have this machine and it has not been turned on for years im afraid the belts have melted or something else WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST its in mint condition im the original owner

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are common issue with the VU meters and back tension. You have to remove the mechanism and to clean the old grease, making new lubrication. I've made an article about 3014A here: lab2104.tu-plovdiv.bg/index.php/2018/07/22/tandberg-3014a-repair-and-rebuild/

  • @kozkoz7776

    @kozkoz7776

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BorisRibov thank you for your response i will link to that site its a wonderful machine and i love to use it im an avid collector of fine audio equipment unfortunately where i live TORONTO thiers no one trustworthy enough to work on such a machine

  • @alexanderthomas542
    @alexanderthomas5425 жыл бұрын

    I used to own a px 565 technics and they do sound magical with a very 3 dimensional sound most tape decks fail on... The 965 is super holographic and recordings simply dissappear leaving but the original recording especially on darklab cassettes... Nak zx9 is my dragon slayer now... But a rx202 e is pretty decent

  • @Anton68
    @Anton683 жыл бұрын

    What is your best cassette deck?

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a lot of but the Dragon is more close to the neutral sound. So I prefer it compared to the other brand and models.

  • @Anton68

    @Anton68

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BorisRibov Hello Boris. I have Nakamichi Dragon deck. After transporting door won't open. I press on Eject button but nothing is happening. What do you think the problem is? Demonstration kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqenldVpaabgZtI.html Thanks

  • @larryhazelwood5491
    @larryhazelwood54915 жыл бұрын

    Why not record on both? The dbx on the 965 is superior to the dragon.

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    5 жыл бұрын

    The external HighComm II that I use is superior than the internal DBX of the Technics.

  • @larryhazelwood5491

    @larryhazelwood5491

    5 жыл бұрын

    So it records cassettes as well?

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    5 жыл бұрын

    For me it is the better noise reduction system. I tested Super D, ADRNS. Dolby B, S, C for the cassettes but never touch the smooth and noiseless performance without noise modulation on quiet moments like HighCom II. High Comm II is wide band system like DBX but it use two separate band processing for low frequency and high frequency as a comparison with DBX which use single band processing.

  • @user-li6pv7ry1w

    @user-li6pv7ry1w

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Boris! Very many tnx for shedding lite upon aspects n peculiarities of various NR. Excuse me, should I ask not exactly to the point, yet is any input available upon ADRES NR system by Aurex aka Toshiba. Have you happened to hear it in action, how is it when compared to Hi-Comm? Also, is there any DETAILED procedure description on using M-300 gauge by Information Terminals for transport fine alignment? Regards from Russian Siberia n strong siberian health to each n everyone))

  • @user-li6pv7ry1w

    @user-li6pv7ry1w

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok, Boris, just am back again to cancel for request on IT M-300 gauge for there's simply a huge amount of info on TapeHeads.net. Regards))) and tnx once again for a brief video on the M-300 gauge implementation to at least understand n get a slight idea of what this is all about))).

  • @alexandrossotiropoulos5621
    @alexandrossotiropoulos56215 жыл бұрын

    Probably the Dragon needs some repair.

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    5 жыл бұрын

    Currently the Dragon allow 0.008% for W&F and the factory spec is twice worst (0.018%). All the components into the Dragon were replaced - new belts, new pinch rollers, new op-amps. All of the orange caps were replaced. You can look at the description of the repair at: lab2104.tu-plovdiv.bg/index.php/2019/02/07/nakamichi-dragon-rebuild-improvements/

  • @ivok9846

    @ivok9846

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BorisRibov reading this stuff.... you're probably engineer or REALLY interested in the subject. probably both.

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ivok9846 Both - I like the sound of the tapes. I have a lot of top models in my collection but really the aim is to improve. Most of the machines are made using some compromise in the components base because of the large production series. In the past few years I developed a ultra low noise head premp for my reel-to-reel pro decks. Now this preamp is used in the quantum sensors measurements in Grenoble/France.

  • @ivok9846

    @ivok9846

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BorisRibov that your preamp has other uses doesn't surprise me after reading what you're doing in linked article. you really are drilling deep. kudos! (ah, now i see you're a doctor, that doesn't surprise me either! )

  • @syelchin
    @syelchin6 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion Technics RS-B965 is not worse than the detonation (Wow & Flutter) parameters (when its tape movement mechanism is completely repaired)

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yep, both are perfect serviced. The most often problem with DD motors in Techics is its weak magnets (demagnetized in time).

  • @syelchin

    @syelchin

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is this the problem of all the cassette decks with DD motors in Techics? I just have a simple 1982 deck (DC motors) RS-226 it has better detonation (Wow & Flutter) parameters than this one. RS-226 Looks better. I recently measured. 0.03 _-_ 0.04%

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    6 жыл бұрын

    I touch several good machines and also several bad from the same model. Maybe it depends on the storage and the working hours and use of every machine. I have a Technics 965 which got 0.034 up to 0.04% JIS WTD. On the other hand I serviced some machines with very buzz motors that cannot allow W&F lower than 0.08% JIS WTD.

  • @larryhazelwood5491
    @larryhazelwood54913 жыл бұрын

    the technics has dbx.compare how it records compared to the dragon.

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use external wide band noise reduction, dual band HighCom II made by Telefunken for Nakamichi (fully rebuild and new op-amps). It performs better than dbx.

  • @larryhazelwood5491

    @larryhazelwood5491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BorisRibov so it reduces tape hiss by more than 30 db and has more that 110 db dynamic range?

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@larryhazelwood5491 30dB+self noise floor of the machine is close to 90dB. The higher range above 0dB is compressed also. So it is possible to go up to 10dB. The overall dynamic range is the sum and goes about the same (or is very close) to the dbx. The difference is the processing principle. The dbx is very simple system. Technics use Type II, which filters a lot of bandwidth for processing. The HighCom II process the spectrum in two independent bands and some effects like tape drop outs and fast attack (noise breathing) are hard to be found on HighCom II.

  • @larryhazelwood5491

    @larryhazelwood5491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BorisRibov those were dbx specs

  • @TheDena85
    @TheDena856 жыл бұрын

    What the best?

  • @HamtaroEL

    @HamtaroEL

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheDena85 Nakamichi DRAGON and Technics RS-B965 are good decks. :-)

  • @convair52

    @convair52

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Dragon is the winner in the Wow & Flutter Test.

  • @strangers5383

    @strangers5383

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is not known in what technical condition the device is

  • @user-ov8sy4ke8k
    @user-ov8sy4ke8k3 жыл бұрын

    надо было проще-по нашему говорить.

  • @BorisRibov

    @BorisRibov

    3 жыл бұрын

    Може би ако бяг заговорил на моя роден език едва ли Руснаците щяхте да разберете цялата терминология.

  • @rafaelfomenko3111

    @rafaelfomenko3111

    Жыл бұрын

    Что Накамичи фигня на поснос масле 😆

  • @aibanezw
    @aibanezw5 жыл бұрын

    Nakamichi ZXL 1000 Limited is the best deck ever made

  • @Synthematix

    @Synthematix

    4 жыл бұрын

    theyre all shit

  • @stojko7268

    @stojko7268

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's very good but not best. Tandberg tcd 910/911

  • @technics-n-thuiast8346
    @technics-n-thuiast83465 жыл бұрын

    Considering Nakamichi Dragon is the best tape deck ever made, Technics stack up to it pretty well. Well, Nakamichi did have that ZX1000 model too, now that I think about it.....

  • @Micha-rz6jp

    @Micha-rz6jp

    5 жыл бұрын

    The best tapedeck ever made, is the Revox B215!

  • @technics-n-thuiast8346

    @technics-n-thuiast8346

    5 жыл бұрын

    Micha1422 i guess we should say those are one of the best tape decks ever made. ( Nakamichi Dragon, TEAC 7000 master deck, Revox 215, Pioneer CT-95...

  • @garywordsworth9302

    @garywordsworth9302

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@technics-n-thuiast8346 Tandberg 3014 ;)

  • @alx21i10

    @alx21i10

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@technics-n-thuiast8346 AIWA AD F SERIES AS WELL.....

  • @alx21i10

    @alx21i10

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have aiwa ad f 660,just i changed the belts...here is a short video(i have another chanel)so you can see how is doing a record!kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYd5xZOAYcnWd6Q.html...what do you think?

  • @maxfactor4209
    @maxfactor42092 жыл бұрын

    My b-965 can do 0.038 to 0.042... you need to service your deck

  • @user-dw9zd3tx6w

    @user-dw9zd3tx6w

    Жыл бұрын

    Мой 828 даёт такие же параметры.

  • @artsimannisto5659
    @artsimannisto56592 жыл бұрын

    I prefee me AIWA-ADF 770. A WINNER under PRICE TAG. Draggo and nakaas-holes are wayyy overpriced,ask almost anyone else,deck owners. Hiss is ok,it is a part o fa hifi genre. At ebay,thers a few draggos that pays like ten thousand euros. Whatta Joke!!!

  • @johngian1961
    @johngian1961 Жыл бұрын

    If we consider the price of the over estimated even today Nakamichi Dragon and the Technics RS-B965 guys...!!! I think that Technics is a far better cassete deck in all aspects... Let me explain...! A Nakamichi Dragon today mostly in Ebay in a very good condition and well serviced , costs about 7.000-10.000$ US.................WTF !!!!!!! On the other place a Technics RS-B965 also in a nearly mind condition serviced also well , costs about 600-800$ US...!! Dragon features dolby B - C , Frequency Response: 20Hz to 22kHz (Metal tape) , Signal to Noise Ratio: 72dB (dolby C) Wow and Flutter: 0.04% ( Nakamichi mesurements) , Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.8%.....! RS-B965 features B, C, HX Pro, DBXii , Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz (Metal tape) , Signal to Noise Ratio: 92dB (DBX) , Wow and Flutter: 0.03% SO , there is no doubt that both are best of the best cassette decks of all times BUT the BARGAIN here is : T e c h n i c s RS-B965 ......Thats it THE END

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