Mythbusting the state of the game

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Talking about why marvel strike force is not dying, it is alive and well. People are still hungry to learn about the game. Tutorials and explainers are doing great.
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  • @Chiguy79
    @Chiguy7928 күн бұрын

    No disrespect, but new player guides don't speak to the health of the game. Complaints aren't that the game is dying, it's that it's a stale game at this point, which makes the new player content make sense since there's not much other content to create from. Scopley has built content that is popular with the players, like the towers and pocket dimension, then run them like once a year when they could run them quarterly and get big wins from the community for them. The Gambit raids are another example of time spent creating content that just gets abandoned. I'm not a dev, but I can't imagine updating content is as time consuming on a development aspect as it is creating. Most events they run regularly are either the same thing (collect blitz credits, make war/CC attacks, etc.) or whale events where you have to have bought the new toons at a significant level to participate. I don't fault them for wanting/needing to make money, but everything for a long time now has come across as money grabs instead of quality play time (see the recent Take Flight milestone as an example.) Communication is another place they've really fallen off, which is saying something since they've never been great with their communication in the 2,264 days I've been playing. Ever since they went to the OTA updates, we never really know when updates are coming. They used to put out the new character silhouettes which were always fun for the community to speculate on. Their weekly blogs are blah now, to the point where there's no real reason to look forward to those. We get more info from Tauna''s and Boilon's data mines. Even the Dark Dimensions are underwhelming. It used to be exciting with everyone chasing, but with Mephisto no one really seems to care and are content getting him unlocked at their own slow pace (though I will give Scopley credit with actually being better about the availability of crimson gear than they have been in the past when teal and orange were the new gear tier items) and they knew there was little excitement about him because they announced Prof. X as the reward for DD8 a couple of weeks after DD7 launched. As some of the content creators have pointed out, we're now in the second half of the year and there's no talk of a second half road map so between that and the Battleworld delay, there's nothing to be excited about looking ahead and there really hasn't been much to be excited about looking back either.

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    28 күн бұрын

    My man you said a lot :). But truth be told I like your comment. I don't agree with everything but that's ok. Different perspectives need to be shared and that's what I am trying to help bring forward. It's ok for people to not like things about the game but if no solutions or reasons are offered than it's just a waste. So I definitely want to thank you for sharing your thoughts because you are talking about specific things not just shouting insults or baseless complaints. I can agree that new content is needed but we also have to realize and take ownership of the fact that the loud voices in our community the "crybabies" as I lovingly refer to them are doing more harm than good. I'm all in for more tower and pocket dimension I agree they could be run more often. If you have not already please go mention this in the player voice. Maybe throw it in the suggestion tab if it gets enough votes the devs will see it. The various bonus raids like the Gambit one I also agree they could be used more please recommend that as well. However this is where things start to go bad because people complained. They complain about how the nodes are distributed and about how difficult they were. Content creators had a field day with it, who spoke highly of it at the time? Instead the negativity reigns and so Scopley thinks it's a bad idea. The character silhouettes were abandoned because people leak the contents and creators again have a field day with it so it's no surprise we don't have them at this time. The issues with communication are again our own fault. Again creators want to "hold Scopley accountable" for things that they said 4 years ago. The same people don't even work there but for clicks people take them to task for anything they put in writing. I would love to see a road map but if the later details don't come true people go nuts so after years of being hit on the head with it why would they continue to give us genuine communication. People lost their minds because the early iteration of the spotlight raids was on an "excel sheet". Where I come from that's called advanced intel but still people complain. People complain that they told us Professor X was next after Memphisto. Again they are just letting us know what's coming in advance I loved the announcement but the loud voices turned it into something bad. How could it kill the hype for Memphisto to know who the next boss is? I know the majority of the community doesn't feel like this, so we have to speak up more. And if we really do feel like this we have to ask more questions and allow Scopley to try things out and give us answers we know may change over time. This is a live service game and so it has to change that means the path we follow may change too.

  • @Chiguy79

    @Chiguy79

    28 күн бұрын

    @@gideonxl660 Appreciate you taking the time to give full responses to my points and I'm happy to have disagreement with some of it because that's where the ideas get vetted and solutions found. To your first point, sure, players and content creators could find better ways to generate their feedback but, as I mentioned in a response in another comment in the thread, it still feels like nothing is heard which I believe is what has led to the frustrations being expressed in more negativity. Taking the Gambit raid for example, the problem was it felt like they shotgunned the available toons for specific nodes leaving little to no synergies for the raid. You had specific toons you could use, not specific traits or origins. I think a meshing of the Gambit raid with the Kyln rules would be great, a three member raid of member from specific teams or traits would leave a lot of room for theory crafting which is one of the more popular aspects of the game. They have the framework already done, just tweak it. RTA had a bad roll out in the beginning too but was never abandoned. As for the silhouettes, even if they were found out before being announced, they still generated discussion and excitement from the players and creators and that's not a bad thing. The communication issues I don't think are the fault of the player base and it's not unreasonable to hold them accountable, regardless of who the owners are or were. If you go to a McDonalds that gives bad service and messes up your order and a new owner comes in, you're going to expect the new owner to still hold up to what customers expect from a McDonalds. I respect and expect that things change in the development process, but tell us why it changed. I can't imagine they're making announcements in the road maps or blogs that are still only in the idea stage. They had screenshots of Battleworld in the December road map so it had to be pretty far along unless they were just posting a photoshop image of what it could look like, which leads into the excel map fiasco. That wouldn't have been acceptable for a high schooler to turn in for an assignment, let alone a multi-million dollar company making an official announcement. I get ideas start on cocktail napkins but those never get published. Another example is the open all button, how is it that it was working fine for months and then a new update rolls out that breaks it and they can't go back to it? If it has something to do with other features that are in the pipeline, say that. Don't allude to game stability issues when it's common knowledge they've been running the game on outdated servers with spaghetti code. I'd rather they hold off on any updates and even take the game down for a day or two to implement fixes for those issues. Clearly the game can withstand some negativity since there's plenty for the "crybabies" as you refer to them as still play the game despite it's issues and if it came back running smoother and cleaner, all that negativity and downtime would be forgotten instantly. Since I'm going long already, I'll just say the Professor X and even the Spotlight raids were bad timing and announced or released way too early. Pointless to release a raid that you're making last minute changes to and could only be completed half way for the first few weeks. Please don't get me wrong, I do still enjoy the game and there are plenty of things to appreciate in the game, otherwise there wouldn't be the player base there, but Scopley should be more open to the feedback. From the sounds of things in the envoy meetings, there's a lot of frustration and that's not good when those are supposed to be your marketers to the public.

  • @TheMongooliShow
    @TheMongooliShow29 күн бұрын

    I'm so glad you addressed the teeth, I legit LoL'd. Well done

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    Hey man I was Cracking up too!! Obviously, it wasn't what I wanted, but it was funny, so I left it in!!

  • @houstonharris3732
    @houstonharris373228 күн бұрын

    this game has got me wrapped around its finger. 32 days logged in and i’m intrigued as i was on day one

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    28 күн бұрын

    I hear you bro. I've been playing for the entire time six years and I still love it. As long as you enjoy it, keep playing!!

  • @thebigpositivegeek
    @thebigpositivegeek29 күн бұрын

    Excellent video buddy. When I was researching more about content creation. Your videos should really fall into 1 of 2 categories either educational or entertainment.

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    100% true bro. Keep being you!!

  • @Blackarot94
    @Blackarot9426 күн бұрын

    I can speak to this as a new a brand new gamer to MSF. With fresh eyes I love it. The gatcha concept is done differently than ones in the past. Like Raid and DSA by giving way more freebees and content along the way. Not only that by the end game is SOOOO far away for new gamers. I like your video talking about this. Cause fear mongers just push new gamers away thinking that it’s no point in picking this game up

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    26 күн бұрын

    Bro, I gotta be honest. You are 100%, the dude We're trying to reach out here. We want cats to be able to come in and enjoy the game. Do not get scared away by the nonsense. We're glad you're having fun and like any hobby in life. The time will come when it's not fun anymore. And that's fine in the meantime, enjoy the ride. Love the name by the way.

  • @kishisue7070
    @kishisue707028 күн бұрын

    Great video!!!! I liked the numbers and the teeth at the end on Spiderman were hilarious!

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    28 күн бұрын

    Thanks a million 😘

  • @hawkeyes2814
    @hawkeyes281429 күн бұрын

    This game is fun, but when I found out about Marvel Snap, I have not gone back

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    It's all good bro. You gotta do what you love. Life is too short for anything else.

  • @Pr3ps-msf
    @Pr3ps-msf29 күн бұрын

    Another unique video, thanks for the shout out. Keep up the good work!

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    Hey man keep being you. You are putting out good stuff 👏🏾.

  • @thelastgamurai
    @thelastgamurai29 күн бұрын

    The Last Gamurai has just subscribed

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you bro 🙏🏿

  • @mrspidermr21
    @mrspidermr2128 күн бұрын

    Crybabies? Like when people cried about demonic gear?

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    28 күн бұрын

    Noted, Knew that was coming at some point. In my defense, we did not pressure the company to change its viewpoint. We responded to the change that they already made, as we said. If that's the direction that Scopley decided to go, we were gonna find something else to do, that's cool. But we have a lot of noise out here. Too many people just complaining about the game. Not offering any real solutions, not even being satisfied When they're granted what they asked for. This game is awesome. It's been going on for 6 years, Someone has to highlight our wins.

  • @DuArkTikMSFHQ
    @DuArkTikMSFHQ28 күн бұрын

    Nothing new, drama about the game is what some channels thrive of Being positive and cheerful about the game we love? nobody has time for that

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    28 күн бұрын

    😂 Well said bro, Well said.

  • @GoldenPhoenix92
    @GoldenPhoenix9227 күн бұрын

    I dont know this game I never played and probably wont play the game but clicked this vid and this happens everywhere. Feels like everyone everywhere in the world does this in every game. "game is dying" well its just not as popular as it was at the beginning. But thats for everything right ?

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    27 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching the vid. And I appreciate your comment very well, balanced. Thank you. And I agree with you 100%. There are times when games are exciting. There's a time when the game gets boring. There's a time when some people leave and there's a time when new people come in, that's just how any hobby works.

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    27 күн бұрын

    Also, now I'm very curious. Why did KZread recommend this video to you? Do you play other Marvel games?

  • @GoldenPhoenix92

    @GoldenPhoenix92

    26 күн бұрын

    @@gideonxl660 Marvel Snap I do play, just a side note i do get recommended vids of games that are similar to what I play, sometimes random MTG because I play card games maybe ?

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    25 күн бұрын

    That's very interesting. I do play snap on occasion. Haven't forva bit. Perhaps I should check back in.

  • @kekipark77
    @kekipark7727 күн бұрын

    if the game was actually dying, i dont think people would waste their time making a video about the game dying

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    27 күн бұрын

    That is an interesting point. But we do have our share of Click Bait doom and gloom videos out there. If you don't see them I'm glad bro. That means you spend more time with the positive stuff!

  • @NewChair9068
    @NewChair906828 күн бұрын

    It’s dying idc what people say. If the game starts to get random ads that aren’t related to the game I’m quitting.

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    28 күн бұрын

    I agree that 3rd party ads aren't a good sign, and I hope it never comes to that. But why do you believe the game is dying?

  • @NewChair9068

    @NewChair9068

    28 күн бұрын

    I wanna be honest, MSF has the lack of things to do when you a high level. It’s boring sometimes. It’s causing people to quit. I think the game still stands cuz of the spenders. Plus it’s not a pandemic anymore so obviously the game isn’t as popular rn. But day by day I think MSF is slowly dying.

  • @NewChair9068

    @NewChair9068

    28 күн бұрын

    If there was another pandemic… damn this game will be popular again.

  • @DacierGaming
    @DacierGaming29 күн бұрын

    Great video and I agree the game is far from dead. Also Old Timey is great. Definitely subscribe if you haven't people!

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    DACIER in the house!! Hey man you're not shabby yourself! Yes, sir, we are here to play and we gotta get old timey on the map!!

  • @DacierGaming

    @DacierGaming

    29 күн бұрын

    @@gideonxl660 thanks! I haven't been doing it long, but based on how fast the channel is growing and views is more evidence the game isn't dying. Also I love your videos too!

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    💯 Keep up the good work your stuff is good 👍🏿

  • @DacierGaming

    @DacierGaming

    29 күн бұрын

    @@gideonxl660 thank you so much!

  • @dozotcz8477
    @dozotcz847727 күн бұрын

    Hahaha this game is dying for at least 5 years... Meanwhile Scopely got another selling record 😂😂😂😂

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    27 күн бұрын

    💯 brother!!

  • @kdoggforever
    @kdoggforever29 күн бұрын

    The game is just boring at times. We just need new content.

  • @gideonxl660

    @gideonxl660

    29 күн бұрын

    I can agree with that. What would you like the new content to be like?

  • @kdoggforever

    @kdoggforever

    29 күн бұрын

    @@gideonxl660 Nothing crazy but to start with remove RTA and blitz from the game permanently. Replace them with Tower and a weekly or bi-weekly pocket dimension. Get battle world up and running. And for goodness sake can we please get some new backgrounds to play on. We've had the same backgrounds for more than 6 years!!! The crucible background is the only new one in 6 years!!!

  • @DuArkTikMSFHQ

    @DuArkTikMSFHQ

    28 күн бұрын

    @@kdoggforever Blitz and RTA is how the new players learn the game, it will never be removed Tower and pocket dimension so you do it once and get bored again? not worth the work it needs We dont have new backgrounds because of "technical difficulties". They have to change the game engine which is something they are working on but that will take a while

  • @kdoggforever

    @kdoggforever

    28 күн бұрын

    @@DuArkTikMSFHQ I respectfully disagree. There are plenty of ways besides those two horrible and annoying game modes for new players to learn how to play the game. The campaigns, arena, raids, war, and dark dimension. I understand new backgrounds take time but it's been 6 years. Most gacha games have a tower mode of some kind running all the time so that's nothing new but it would be for MSF. They can change up the required characters for a bi-weekly pocket dimension to keep it fresh and fun and it can provide much needed gold, gear, and other rewards. I don't think what I'm asking for is unreasonable to keep the game from being stale and boring till we get new content like battle world.

  • @DuArkTikMSFHQ

    @DuArkTikMSFHQ

    28 күн бұрын

    @@kdoggforever you are not asking for unreasonable things, but the company thinks they are doing good enough and the envoys + players voice dont care enough, they point the fingers to the problems but dont give any reasonable solutions. I would suggest for example 1 tower that limits to skill+bio, rotating the types every few weeks would be interesting.

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