after checking RSD for a long while, I have to say I'm still impressed by this guy and his system, and I see how much of pick up that is practised started with the Mystery Method. Even still, the stuff he says ring true and are used - like Julien saying "afterparty", or other RSD ppl saying: "hang in there after you get the number, don't just bounce." These concepts are true because they work, and are based on field experiences. Maybe you have a favorite coach or whatever, but this guy's pure magic and his work is nevertheless appreciable and works.

@Aussiex77x

9 жыл бұрын

Except it's all lines and won't teach you to be an attractive guy. Good luck once you run out of lines.

@whowantstogetnaked

9 жыл бұрын

Interior Crocodile Alligator it's a bit of a fake it till you make it. Once you do the lines, you can start to see how they work and can become a naturally attractive guy over time - that is the theory anyway. That's the idea. I don't think you're supposed to just learn lines and keep telling lies and made up stories. Hope it helps! :)

@philomelodia

5 жыл бұрын

Healthyliving rsd Took a lot of their stuff from him. At least, that is the impression I get after having read Neil Strauss’ The Game. The founders were either his former protégés, or men who modeled their technique after his.

@centricus2400

3 жыл бұрын

Yes Tyler was one of his students. hes even in some of his old videos

@awsomeness6574

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aussiex77x mystery is a huge believer in self development and constantly recommends it. Lines are important even for developed people who just don't quite understand how attraction works.

I really don't understand what people are hating on this guy for. He teaches and advocates a method you can use to better your chances with women. There are other methods out there but people are talking as if the Mystery Method doesn't work anymore, as if women have evolved in the last 10 years to the point where it isn't effective. I think the PUA community is very faddy. and the fad at the moment is RSD.

@SirJoelsuf1

9 жыл бұрын

Honestly, RSD is a lot better than most PUAism. They just need to focus more on what to physically do with chicks as most boys have no idea. But a lot of their ideas are very good and they will have a stranglehold on PUAism for awhile. And that's not a bad thing, as it is the least gimmicky thing out there.

@TeifiValley123

9 жыл бұрын

bigjew899 I have watched the long videos RSD have posted on KZread. I don't know if i have to pay them money to get to the _real_ substantive content, but all I can get from their videos is a few amusing anecdotes and a lot of pseudo-intellectual broscience. The lectures just consist of very general statements and long, irrelevant stories. But what information are you really getting? The mystery Method gave me a framework to work within. what I did within that frameowrk was my own personality and creativity. I didn't need to use canned routines for the Mystery Method to be effective for me. It gave me direction and an understanding of where to take an interaction

@SirJoelsuf1

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah you kind of do need to pay them for the substantive content. But you would need to pay anyone for it really. Most PUAism is broscience tbh. Additionally, stuff like Mystery Method is more designed for the overly logical types who need almost a flowchart to conversing with women. It works wonders for any guy who is totally and completely clueless with chicks, as I was. But it hasn't aged well. IMO RSD takes the Mystery Method to a whole nother level. But yes, having decent conversation skills with chicks kind of is a prerequisite for RSD.

@TeifiValley123

9 жыл бұрын

bigjew899 Again this idea it hasn't 'aged' well, i don't understand. I just think there are other fads for people to latch onto at the minute. The mystery method tries to relate itself back to our biology. Why do we biologically feel approach anxiety? This man makes the effort to understand why it is hardwired into our heads. I remember when I first read Eric Markovik's book on the Mystery Method. I went out the same night and I knew exactly where I was going. More importantly i knew where i'd gone wrong when I screwed up. If my introduction to the PUA community would have been RSD, I would still be useless with women because its just some guys telling stories of getting with chicks, rather than how they did it or _why_ it works.

@SirJoelsuf1

9 жыл бұрын

TeifiValley123 Oh I was talking about the lines and routines etc. Many of those are the modern day "what's your sign" nowadays and have been for roughly five or so years. For shits and giggles I asked a chick if she caught the brawl outside and she was like "what, are you gonna ask me who lies more next? Fuck off." This was in 2010. After that I was like, "yup, time for new material."

mystery is an unbelievable speaker, him and style are my favourite puas

@aspects8645

Жыл бұрын

Shame style is a full bred simp

I love the way Mystery speaks and the things he says. He's very intriguing(which is part of his appeal to women, im sure.). Something he said stuck with me "Have you ever been attracted to somebody bigger and stronger than you?". I've never thought of it that way...that gives great insight into understanding a woman's perspective.

I've learned from this guy more that what've learn from all the teachers whom I had

@MAD_chaArt

4 жыл бұрын

True

@GovnaBuckingham

3 жыл бұрын

did you not take math or something

@sultanaljuhani1571

3 жыл бұрын

@@GovnaBuckingham haha electrical engineer actually

@iyot1020

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i totally take dating lessons from someone who rocks genin naruto goggles

@folaback46

Жыл бұрын

​@@sultanaljuhani1571 did it work all those years

Mysteries secret is the amount of patience he has for himself and others. All his discoveries are one of someone who has patience for the development of something.

Regardless of any women or pick ups.. This man's charisma is absolutely off the charts.

The best! I keep going around finding different techniques and Mystery is still one of the best!

He is one of the most important social scientists of our time.

@SPACEDOUT19

Ай бұрын

he is a con artist. pickup doesnt work, either you are good genetic material for a girl to choose you, or you are not. its not a science

Johnny, that was so eloquently put and so very true. Wow !!!!

I’ve followed many pick up artsists over the years. I remember seeing Mystery when I was young and thinking he was ridiculous. It’s embarrassing how wrong I was. He’s the best in the world.

Wow Mystery has so much matured. Amazing!

Thank you for sharing this

Yeah mystery is a badass. I read the. Mystery method a few years ago and it revolutionized my game

the godfather of pick up

@smackatoo

4 жыл бұрын

Not even close. Just a popular one. Go to Corey Wayne for absolute truth. Find your passion in life and you won’t have to employ one single thing taught here. Once you find your passion, all the issues Mystery is trying to help you with will vanish. You will NATURALLY neg others, you will peacock with your posture, you will entertain with your eyes. Mystery is good but relays far too much on routines and techniques. With Corey, you find YOU and there are loads of women who want that. No outfits, no loudmouth negs... YOU. Corey’s biggest gift, he shows you how to know within seconds who is WORTH your time and who will never be attracted to you no matter how many rabbits you pull out of however many different colored hats. That’s not how attraction works. At all.

It seems he made peace with his inner demons. Looks a lot more happy and interested in helping/teaching others. Love the guy,keep it up Mystery :D

Tyler and PAPA give no credit to mystery. no credit to their mentor. thats not cool

@MAD_chaArt

4 жыл бұрын

That's sick 😷 they should have given credit And Tyler is corrupt

@AlpachinoHuSTle

3 жыл бұрын

Tyler is greedy that is why he fell off

@PatDaley

2 жыл бұрын

Tyler gives credit to mystery often actually

@mikeg.8904

2 жыл бұрын

He does. Tyler talks about how Mystery mentored him. He has a ton of content, not sure if you want him to say it in every single video but he mentions Mystery and his influence from time to time.

Mystery’s videos saved my life

Mystery looks sooo much better with a hair cut and not wearing a top hat or some stupid goggles. Guy could actually pass off as a movie star with that look

@alive3792

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is women are irrational and his unique weird dark style calls their attention

@MayankSharma-kt7zs

4 жыл бұрын

His hat is part of peacocking

Incredibile the power a person have with good social skills and alpha personality.

“Go out more than you stay home”

@SPACEDOUT19

Ай бұрын

let me just say this to my short ugly bald friend

The main thing people overlook with mystery is the fact he’s good looking, super confident and has strong leadership qualities. Any man with similar attributes cannot fail. It’s what separates men from boys and chumps.

Good stuff! The key really is to be social. We are social animals, the more you engage with females, the more you become better.

@TheDeejayprice

10 ай бұрын

100 Percent.

Thank you for this :)

This guy is good

Legend

1. Merging set 2. this month success maybe helpful in 2nd month success 3. its long term journey 4. stories to engage 5.

The dichotomy of Mystery is that he isn’t a conventionally ugly man. All he ideally needed was his inner game developed. Sadly I think more of this is based on appearance as opposed to game.

awesome I love the mystery method, it has structure and it is a system, meaning anyone can learn the system

Wow use audio recorder instead of text, I never thought of that. Thanks Mystery!

legend!!! no one better

I have read the books and watched the videos and been doing this mystery method for alot of years IT WORKS and I have had alot of beautiful woman in my life

@trionoide2559

2 жыл бұрын

But how do you remember it all?

@dmytoe5679

Жыл бұрын

How about ltr?

thats cool hes not dressing like a wizard and painting his nails anymore.

Genius!!! period.

Learning the routines is great.. but also important to learn the concepts behind the routines-why they work.. Otherwise.. you are good with the few minutes on your routines.. as soon as the routines are dropped.. don't know what to say. Learning the concept behind it.. not just routine itself.. It's learning a package. You come up with good stuff to say or do spontaneously. That's important. For beginners.. it is actually good to just memorize routines.. although it doesn't build your self-esteem or real social skills.. It does however allow people to go out and practice. No routines for those with naturally no game= no practice. Practice gets people started.. after doing it many times... it's good to then learn the concept.. and come up with new things on the fly. Jimmy Kimmel is an excellent example of someone who has good social skills. And to add.. inventing DHV stories is a good start.. but long term goal would be to build REAL DHV in our lives... we are not trying to fake high value male..we BECOME high value male. To choose which DHV stories we want.. and make them real. Talk about going to MIAMI? Go to Miami, take some photos, shoot some videos... then use it on the next set. Then it's not fake, it's real stuff. Each thing you do, you grow a little.. when you do a good 30-50 of those.. your real value would have raised. A lot of stuff back then 10-15 years ago.. so hard to convey.. you probably had to bring all the props out like your photos, magic tricks,etc. to show it to girls and convey. Now? This is too easy. Smartphone solves 90% of the problem. Here are some DHV's that's easy to convey. Easy but take a bit of work. - Social Proof -- Pictures with buddies - Traveling: Go to different cities.. shoot some photos and videos. - Passion: What do you like to do? Sport, art, martial art, music? Shoot some video doing it... - Have a website about yourself. What you do, what's your passion. What do you believe? That's big DHV. It's not hard to build a website.. but most people think it's hard. The fact that you build a website, have a domain name.. have design and content.. show you are smart, passionate, and so much more. -- Have a published BOOK. When people see you have a book.. it's like. '' WOW, you are god!'' In today's environment, thanks to amazon for making publishing so simple.. you can write a 50 page book, put on a cover, and publish yourself on amazon. And make some money as well. Also wealth building here-- Get 2( DHV+$) for price of 1! -- Build an app? It will be assumed you are damn smart! If you don't know how to code.. get someone on upwork.com to do it for you. MONEY & DHV. - Photo with babies or animals -- protector of the loved ones DHV - Photo with 1 or 2 pretty girls.. Preselection. - Doing health related stuff like YOGA, detox --- Take good care of yourself -Go for meditation or spiritual englightment? hitting the ''UNKNOWN'' DHV - If in NY, go take a selfie outside of Wall Street or NY Stock Exchange. Own some stocks.. Invest in your own future? Smart guy!! - Video of public speaking? Leader of Men. - Facebook newsfeed of constantly learning things, success quotes, recommending books, helping people, sharing successful people's video about success. It's possible to upload a lot of things on facebook or instagram.. Upload lots of DHVs photos.. add them.. let them go through it.. next time on a date... It's like HOLY SHIT, this guy is the highest value dude in the world! Or on a date.. just pull out those photos.. snd show.

Hell yea thanks

41:30 be the one to slow things down if she moves too fast! This actually speeds up comfort!

I'm glad I found you. You remind me of, Me.

Ok so what is the difference between Mystery Method (now known as Venusian Arts) and Real Social Dynamics? I watched Tyler Durden's vids and he always reminds me of a Frank TJ Mackey type. I honestly don't understand his gaming techniques while Mystery explains his gaming techniques more clear and direct. More compelling.

@Aussiex77x

9 жыл бұрын

Mystery is about pickup lines. RSD is about changing the way that you think and behave naturally, so that you become an attractive guy without even trying - you can be yourself entirely and be attractive

@hahdanghongha7810

9 жыл бұрын

RSD is extremely effective if the student has the "type" that the material is about. Its kind of unconscious learning. Those don't have, and don't frequently participate in the lessons, improvement may stop. MM is good for those who dare to try and fail and try until get it and become PUA. Because it is conscious learning so you can improve from doing wrong to doing right while realize things (its painful too), then turn to natural-unconscious.

@owensamrob

8 жыл бұрын

+blinkzone1 Rsd = top down approach MM= Bottom up approach

Mystery is a damn genius

I totally agree about being indirect

Not that Mystery is wrong in any way - everything he says makes sense - but breaking down social interactions so technically makes things so complicated and kind of weird. It may be a good way to teach these things to newbies though. What I've realised though is that most techniques come naturally (you don't even have to think about them) if you have the right mindset and attitude. Everything, say kino, reward and punish good and bad behavior, demonstrating high vs low value... It all comes naturally. That's why I think RSD has a good point not being so technical. But Mystery's technical view on this is good to get an understanding.

@hahdanghongha7810

9 жыл бұрын

In learning, we have 4 steps. 1 we don't realize that we re doing wrong Then 2 we realize that we still doing wrong, and try to do things right (Mystery shows the way, and what is considered right or wrong) 3 we realize that we are doing things right 4 we don't realize that we are doing things right, we just do it, its natural, and turns to unconscious state.. Remember when you started to drive a bicycle, how to turn, to push the pedal, etc. we feel everything, so painful, so conscious of anything at first. but it was fun back then, and we learned now we can unconsciously drive bike, even without hands. Like riding a bike, its Very hard to by pass step 2,3 , run to 4 except we do some NLP from some masters who are very experienced with proper techniques and treatment because people are so different in social values and lifestyle. So if you learn to be natural by the lessons built for the mass, it lasts a while, but, after that time, or without proper NLP from those masters, you will stop advance anything. Then you ll have to pay more money to learn other lessons which is not particularly built for you

@LearnCompositionOnline

6 ай бұрын

To teach he has to systematise

@alexanderhugestrand

6 ай бұрын

@@LearnCompositionOnline I wrote that eight years ago, and these things are more or less out of fashion now, but still... It's okay to systematize things, but Mystery's teachings (and later RSDs) were missing the most important thing... Your mental wellbeing. It's not strange, since they are (were) not professional psychologists. Those pickup techniques are more or less an observation of HOW successful men behave, but not WHY. As such, it would be more beneficial to say that upfront, and then analyse what the best way to get there should be. But that's difficult. My personal development was something like this: 1. Deal with my neediness. 2. Realise that the less emotionally invested I was, the easier and more successful I was. So basically, mind your own business and don't give a crap about the hot girl, and just talk to everyone with equal (dis)interest. Maybe ask her to move over so that you can get to the bar or something, as your opener. 3. Finding my masculine energy by doing the above. 4. Work with acceptance - accept yourself and your emotions and don't pretend to feel any other way. But still try to improve, and make an effort to give off positive vibes. 5. Realise that I am neurodivergent and can sometimes have problems understanding people. Most people interested in pickup techniques happen to be neurodivergent or sociopathic after all. As such, misunderstandings happen, and people may find me weird at times (in a bad way). But... I'm happily married now, with the hottest girl I could ever dream of. 😁

46:00 he puts down number closing... he said that's modern pick up... he is about something higher... he is not about texting... he uses it only for data like the party starts at 11pm

Mystery looks like Solid Snake

@albcas4997

6 жыл бұрын

Hope Udobi does he? I cant see it lol

They should make a movie about this guy

@sooparticular

2 жыл бұрын

they actually had a reality show a few seasons it was amazing,,,think it was called the Pickup artist...check it out it was fun

42:40 being social is important

Mystery to Stylist: “Look i’m tired of looking like a Level 90 Warlock. Make me a pirate, or Gambit from X-men.”

"Have you ever been attracted to someone bigger and stronger than you?" You mean like Ronda Rousey?

I have to meet him and take the workshop with him before its too late

mystery got extra points for being tall and handsome

he's a tall good looking dude it's wild he ever dressed the way he used to.

after being into this for many years it always blows my mind that women never need a boot camp or coaching lmaoooo all they do is show up with heels and a short skirt and dozens of guys are all over them!! hilarious ...yet guys are completely clueless and need pickup books coaching videos....what a freakin world

@trionoide2559

2 жыл бұрын

True, women have so many options, its unbelievable. I ran a social experiment for a few days, I set up a fake dating profile as a women and the results were shocking. Women are absolutely bombarded with options while most men have ZERO. Fuck its hard being a man sometimes lol

@sooparticular

2 жыл бұрын

@@trionoide2559 yeah I did that too...I worked with some of the best in the world at pickup...I did great but an avg woman could fuck a guy every day...a different guy no problem...its just the way it is

@imthirstyh2o330

2 жыл бұрын

Gender roles. Also, women’s social intuition is much higher than men’s by default

@trionoide2559

2 жыл бұрын

@@imthirstyh2o330 True. But that's mainly because women are so inundated with free validation and attention from simps and the 50 other men that hit on her on a daily basis.

@mannylopez2388

2 жыл бұрын

how many of them become wives is the question

So much social inteligence

Gorgeous

That Mystery is a good looking man full of confidence. No need for techniques or wisdom to be a Pick up artist. Give me an unattractive man with no money that is a Pick up artist and then , I will really listen.

@DDoms99

10 жыл бұрын

Owen Cook aka Tyler. Has no looks and would never flash money to attract. Still one of the best. Taught by Mystery but his game and teaching is now 100000x better than Mystery's.

@whowantstogetnaked

9 жыл бұрын

DDoms99 Owen cook is a good looking dude, despite him saying he doesn't look good or doesn't look good as some other guys. Doesn't mean only good looking guys get the 'girls' tho.

@DDoms99

9 жыл бұрын

Healthyliving He kinda is now, but have you seen him fat with long hair? Just saying, good game works.

@whowantstogetnaked

9 жыл бұрын

DDoms99 foundation days? I never thought he's "bad" looking or nerdy or anything like that, but ya you're right he looks more fit, more in 'his prime' as he likes to say. Anyone following pua and working on their skills has to know 'good game works'. Agreed.

@Tomn8er

9 жыл бұрын

Neil Strauss aka Style is pretty ugly, bald, and short too with a weak nasally voice. Although he is pretty rich i'd imagine after writing a best seller. But still doesn't get much more unassuming than that.

I see a lot of people saying these older guys are acting, but shakespeare said the world's a stage and everyone has there entrance and exit, so don't feel bad your part is up. But if your gonna act, be good at it and let people remember you. That's attractive

Omg yes! Don’t lock us in and let us be in a group setting!

Tony Attwood et al. "Been there. Done that. Try this!: An Aspie's guide to life on earth" Tips for Autistics from a person on a spectrum: "Mingle-talk to one or two people, using your questions, lines, or jokes. Pick two from your repertoire. Listen to responses. Then, after chatting for a few minutes with them, move along. The key is to listen and find a break in a new conversation before you break in. After an hour or two, you should have made a complete circuit of the room and you can probably make your escape. You should have leftover things that you prepared-the idea was to have much more than you needed as chat-starters." Has much in common with Mystery Method, isn't it? Canned materials, openning sets, bouncing...

@qasimimtiaz114

2 жыл бұрын

Tony Attwood is a fraud.

20:20 indirect approaching

If all the so called incels would put in the effort to learn this stuff, like really learn it. Then maybe they wouldn't be incels anymore. Mystery needs to get back in the game.

@Trump-A-Bad-MF

2 жыл бұрын

Mystery only needed to work on his inner game Because with those looks, he only needed to believe more in himself

@trionoide2559

2 жыл бұрын

But if it works, why don't incels learn it?

@04dram04

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trump-A-Bad-MF Dude thats not how it works in a night club

@Unknowledgeable1

2 жыл бұрын

@@04dram04 wdym dude. Could you elaborate?

@heyy1829

Жыл бұрын

To go out 4x a week for like a year, really talking to girls and practicing this is until you got it is wayyyy harder then to sit and home and bitch about how the world is unfair, so most loser guys rather do the latter.

Si no traducir los demás que?

I don't think I've ever seen Mystery with short hair before.

He looks like Chris Cornell here

Mystery looks like Paul Janka in this video. Who agrees????

Anyone notice how he keeps repeating 'fair' at the end of a point? I can't help but think there's something behind that.

26:21 The power of Kino is pushing her off after, to get her to chase you...

Another question I can't help but to ask what if you are extremely introvert how do you break out of that?

So I knew he was from Canada, but really didn't recognize it until he said the word "out". Something about Canadians they say that word very differently than us some more exaggerated than others like let's go ouuuuut.

40:10 Moved me

@lolo3ata468

2 жыл бұрын

Where?

Mystery is a very good looking dude. He didn't need all that peackoking

@lancelotzkaya1

4 жыл бұрын

Peackocking done right makes girls start the interaction. That's literally the first thing he teaches

Who is RSD?

I want to meet mystery one day and build a relationship with him i feel connected to meet mystery I want to learn the mystery method

He likes to party 🥳

43:42 a reminder for me

The king of pimps right here.

I wrote an entire book on pick up and he doesn't even gimme mystery lounge access

Kong is that you. Front row

27:01 never say excuse me

he looks like hugh jackman

2014 was one of the last healthy years, 2015 already not so sure anymore. Afterwards downhill. Now, 50% of society are mentally ill.

This is great knowledge but i have a feeling that dating in australia is hard due to thr feminist movt.. any ideas here? Very good model though. .. he is very clear and detailed...

Mystery says engage the guys and ignore the girl. What are some stories/things to talk about with the guys that would still pique the girl's interest?

@ronaldchulu7282

Жыл бұрын

Thus where u miss point , u dnt hv to make woman intrigue or happy.....win over men.....girls there time will come but now now

that’s mystery now????

Liam Neeson looks diffrent these days

28:45 she needs to show interest, he is willing to lose the set!

Rats round? RIGHT ROUND BB RIGHT ROUND. Listen to 11:50

17:50

Banned

Personally i just drop kick everyone with the kung fu pick up

46:22 Yes I HAVE PULLED A MANY WOMEN THROUGH FACEBOOK VOICECLIPS!!

Jesus Christ: Leader of men: 12 disciples Preselection: Woman tipping a giant jar of ointment over his head as an act of worship Protector of loved ones: calming the stormy boat, healings Willingness to emote: Jesus wept Successful risk taker: Going to the Cross to bear the wrath of God on our sin and rising from the dead He'd have serious interest although no premarital sex obviously

@UdobiMusic

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

What in the world is a DHV though?

@2t2v63

2 жыл бұрын

Demonstration of Hight Value

I'm not random, I'm rainbow? Is that what he said?

@whowantstogetnaked

9 жыл бұрын

I was so fukin lost when he said that. I heard the same. :s

Notes: Don't open with "excuse me" Do you know this song? Multiple threading - stop in the middle - can I introduce my friends? Nags: - we are very similar - you cannot Cook?

I am gonna GAME you in the FIELD IN our set TOGETHER. Oh MY FONDNESS FOR this ONE kind OF stuff THAT I CAN RELATE TO you. BLONDEST is MY favorite BLONDE girl BARBIE ever since the BEGINNING OF OUR ACTIONS AGAINST OUR enemies IN IRAQ ICOC and OUR BABIES TOGETHER. I am gonna LIVE WITH you every day FOR YOUR service TO the CIA.

@T..C..M

2 жыл бұрын

Huh?

Who's that chick going "no" when that guy was telling his story? Just shut up and let Mystery do his job lady... This is a place for men anyway, have some fucking respect. Go ahead and let the flaming begin.

Is lucid crying?

I’ve gotten jobs and women from his rapport building info. If Mystery abandoned pick up and trained sales, programmers, executives, public speaking... Jesus he would be Tony Robins rich. Write books!!!!!

new opener. right? right? right? right? right? right?????????

@Ladiesman19897

9 жыл бұрын

Ladiesman19897 new drinking game. Anytime Mystery says: "right" drink!

@MajICReiki

11 ай бұрын

Neurolinguistic programming. NLP is a speech hypnosis technique to create a group concensus of agreement with the one speaking, which activates mirroring neurons so they feel inclusive and on the same brainwave which is more conducive to manipulation or coachability. The group reactions change through his monotonous and boring stories, their timing and participation responding to his speech. He's using his POA secret weapons on his clients and they're oblivious.

Why is he still teaching structured game for fucks sake?

@MusixPro4u

9 жыл бұрын

***** There's way better stuff out there.

@thomaslarison336

9 жыл бұрын

yea... how dare he take a scientific and logical approach to a subject that millions of guys are dying to learn about... What a dick!! Why even bother with the negative comments? Are you upset that none of it is working for you>? Poor guy.

@briananderson2403

9 жыл бұрын

Thomas Larison He's probably never actually tried the stuff. Just hating.. @Mark: There`s a good course you can look up called `Mack Methods.. Should be easy to find and it`s free too... really good info in there.

@AyaxTelemonio

9 жыл бұрын

John Ny What "stuff"?

@witchreturns2263

9 жыл бұрын

John Ny To learn and undertand the game you must learn strucuted stuff. Is the strating poing and sure, the social dynamics work the same, but after you get to know the game, you will come with your own stuff. Your game will come natural. You need some training wheels when you start learning.