If someone else’s kid is at your home you as the adult are responsible for the safety of that kid. You don’t just say no you can’t spend the night and go home without calling the parents of that kid or at least give him or her a ride home. No excuses whatsoever

@MsLin1974

Жыл бұрын

100 percent

@thimashiangel3026

Жыл бұрын

What a fkg woman to say NO to a little girl and left her to walk Lone home at 9;15pm.

@allahlovesyou7241

Жыл бұрын

True, this breaks my heart 💔💔💔💔 ALLAH !

@joymcnally6781

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree I feel they had a false sense of security based on where they lived

@TheMightyBlackPearl

Жыл бұрын

I agree with what another said, a false sense of security. We have no security anymore. Monsters are everywhere. Monsters don't always look like monsters. Take OP's words to heart. We are part of the village that protects as well! Guard any child like you would your own. This was preventable. Absolutely preventable.

9 pm, 10 yrs old and the friend’s mom sent her on her way? Crappy mom. She could have taken her home or called her mom to come get her. Incredibly irresponsible and careless.

@RawOlympia

Жыл бұрын

She might be involved, it's that creepy.

@thompthomp

Жыл бұрын

@@RawOlympia right because I didn’t see any tears when she was crying

@mom2babygkaterad946

Жыл бұрын

@@thompthomp Not 1 tear

@officerfarva3666

Жыл бұрын

Or let her spend the night… I mean that’s just bizarre to me. Wtf was the big deal?

@officerfarva3666

Жыл бұрын

@@RawOlympia I hope not, but I found her lime light time a bit odd too.

No matter where you live, kids cannot walk anywhere alone!! You would not believe how heavily populated child predators really are!! DONT CHANCE IT, EVEN ONCE!!!

@jamescobrien

Жыл бұрын

Kids back in the day carried firearms and their parents taught them and gave them discipline. They also have the right to proper self defense.

@kathedison2044

Жыл бұрын

Buddy system if my kids walked it be alot of them together..never alone only takes one time.

@floridagal150

Жыл бұрын

@@jamescobrien Back in the day??? Where are earth did you grow up? I grew up in Texas, Dallas, and walking to school at 7:00a.m. my brother and I encountered a man following us, I was running in slow no holding onto my brother's shirt as he pulled me to school. I was 9yrs old. Traumatic times. Crazy people are everywhere.

@angtxsun4460

Жыл бұрын

@@jamescobrien The solution is not children carrying guns for self defense against predatory adults. The solution is people teaching their sons to grow up, develop healthy relationships, and that other humans are not objects to be used and discarded. Yes, by in large the monsters are men, and the prey are women and children.

@jamescobrien

Жыл бұрын

@@angtxsun4460 I agree with you that children need to be raised in sweethearted loving homes. They all need to be raised up and taught wisdom and everything that goes with it. I don't agree with you that children should be denied the right to sufficient self defense because this society is sick. Not everyone is showed true love growing up. These may become narcissistic sociopaths and some psychopaths.

I can't imagine the horror Lindsay's mom felt for so long not knowing where her daughter was and now wanting justice for her baby! So heartbreaking 💔

@adrianaevseev7655

Жыл бұрын

Yes, 😂😂😂

@jpp1749

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianaevseev7655 what's funny?

@shannilmerrill426

Жыл бұрын

Seriously, why the laughing emoji’s? So tone deaf

@laceyfontenot186

Жыл бұрын

@@shannilmerrill426 I figured wrong post

@horrorgal9559

Жыл бұрын

Q

The mom who said she couldn't stay the night, that had to be the worse feeling knowing you sent her home and she never made it. 😔prayers for all involved

@kittyb275

Жыл бұрын

On top of that she sent off a 10 year to walk home at night. And mom letting her daughter walk around at night.

@michaellajeanneal-noora1908

Жыл бұрын

@@kittyb275 uhm , i wonder too

@michaellajeanneal-noora1908

Жыл бұрын

@Dan that's the worst part of the story .

@ossiemac

Жыл бұрын

@@michaellajeanneal-noora1908 What? Worse than a child being murdered? 🙄

@kristenjustkristen9462

Жыл бұрын

@@ossiemac I think they meant it was the worst part of before the actual killing, like as soon as I heard the child was told no, you can't stay and made to walk home alone (it goes both ways. Both adults should be held accountable for allowing a 10yr old to walk alone at night) my heart sunk. It's such a preventable thing, and it just makes what happened even worse..

I grew up in a small town and every single kid in our town would go home alone. It was just normal for where we grew up. I can only imagine what could of happened. I would NEVER let a child walk home alone these days. no way!

@marblemadness8870

Жыл бұрын

killers have ALWAYS existed. They're not some new trend.

@miaglossender7430

Жыл бұрын

It happens in small towns as well we just have better reporting now Pedophiles punishment should be death

@stacy6994

Жыл бұрын

I lived in a very safe neighborhood as well but my parents said home by 6. Sleep by 9 at that age. The mother should have been a bit more proactive about the whereabouts her kids were. 9pm daughter is heading home from a friend that they didn't have a sleep over arranged. Sleep over needed to be discussed earlier. The mother letting her leave should have drove or called mom as well. It just common courtesy. If s child ends up at your home always call or text the parent to let them know you have their kids.

@craigdobis10

Жыл бұрын

I'm 75 yo and my mother never let us go anywhere alone!

@kellyalexander7347

Жыл бұрын

@@marblemadness8870 yea they have but not like today we live in a sick evil world

I just can't wrap my mind around how anyone could hurt a child. People have been so desensitized to violence.... but if you really stop and think about what that little girl probably indured, it's horrifying.

@the-finn

Жыл бұрын

I know I'll never understand it either.

@ArtCurator2020

Жыл бұрын

The people in that small town were VERY Naive to think that they were "safe and secure" considering that they lived so close to the old stomping grounds of serial killers like Gary Ridgway and Ted Bundy. They lived in false security, like ostriches who stick their heads into the sand. Sadly, it seems that you are doing the same.

@ocelot_the_dragon

Жыл бұрын

People have always been sick

@squarshie2769

Жыл бұрын

People hurt children all the time

@JdotAdotH

Жыл бұрын

Demonic oppression or possession is the only answer

No matter how "Good and safe" a neighborhood may be one thing I never allowed was let my girls go ANYWHERE alone when they were kids. 💔😔 the thirst of these PREDATORS is REAL.

@kathyannpardi9888

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

Watching my friend and her family go through this has been so heartbreaking for all these years. Going so long with no answers is like torture. Justice for Lindsey!!

Doesn't matter the size of the City, doesn't matter that everyone knows each other, we don't let children themselves walking five blocks not even one block by themselves because, we do not know People's Hearts!!! Bottom of line is that we think we know people, we don't know people!! RIP 🙏😔

@Faeries.soiree

Жыл бұрын

Here in denmark even 6 year olds are aloud to walk home and stay home alone.

Same thing happen to me when I was little the parents made me leave I had to walk home late at night . Pretty far. Thank god I made it home safe👏

@kathedison2044

Жыл бұрын

I would at least call the parents and say hey it's late she's ready..or take them myself . I never sent child home alone.

@kathyannpardi9888

Жыл бұрын

Sarah Tess, That's horrible.

@realeyesrealiserealliesful2957

Жыл бұрын

Happened to me and I tried to catch the last bus at 12.01am and as it was passed midnight my daysaver was technically out of date (I was 14 years old) I had 20p and could go 1 stop, it was Sunday night close to Christmas 1 stop later and the bus driver stopped the bus and turned off the engine as I didn't get off the bus when he told me to. In the end 4 or 5 passengers lifted me up and literally put me off the bus they wanted their Sunday dinner that's how I remember it was Sunday. I got followed by a car that night, I was about 6 bus stops from home but I was young for my age and that experience was scary. I could never turn a child away from my door and not make sure they get home safely 🙏

@wendyhdzmiller8700

Жыл бұрын

I've never made my kids friends walk home at night. It's either I give them a ride or their parents come get them. That's ludicrous.

@kpayan6282

Жыл бұрын

If the parents did not offer you a ride home then shouldn't be friends in the first place. And your patents are irresponsible for letting you stay so late and not picking you up !

You can tell how bad she felt for sending her home she has so much guilt

@ChibiGrl

Жыл бұрын

She deserves to feel that guilt for the rest of her life! NO WOMAN ESP A MOTHER WOULD ASK A 10 YEAR OLD CHILD TO WALK BACK HOME IN THE DARK!! I hope her AND the negligent mother feel guilty

@sitizenkanemusic

Жыл бұрын

She shouldn't. It's not her fault. That guilt would eventually kill her.

@floridagal150

Жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure what she is feeling. Small towns always have secrets.

@carrieanncancino5118

Жыл бұрын

Good she should feel guilt. What responsible adult sends a innocent defenseless CHILD not a teenager in the dark back to her home alone!!!

@HunterHolliday

Жыл бұрын

@@sitizenkanemusic yep

“Let’s see ya come home, kid.” Man that already broke my heart, then seeing her friend’s mother right afterwards, blaming herself… just crushing.

@allahlovesyou7241

Жыл бұрын

💔She shouldn't have let a 10 year go home alone !!!! She diicare now regrets

@scheezy

Жыл бұрын

She SHOULD blame herself. I hope the guilt destroys her.

We walk among the undetected and unarrested offenders everyday. We all need to be mindful of this because we sometimes forget, get desensitised and let our guard down. Children have an innocence that you can't help them to completely comprehend thru your eyes because they're experiencing growing up and wanting the same independence you wanted/had. You can teach them about strangers and they'll still say in a moment "just this one time, I'll be okay, it's not even 5 mins, I'll be home faster etc" then it's that one time that something terrible happens.

@lisamasters3655

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

for me as a mom i do not allow my child to do sleepover, i do not bring random men into my home as a single mom i watch my child at all times i am doing everything to lessen the risk, rip that poor girl so heart-breaking for her family

@nadineduncan2678

Жыл бұрын

U go mum keep up the fantastic work not many single mums would be thinking like u well I love ur work

@courtneyr6645

Жыл бұрын

Keep rocking! You’re saving the children a lot of stress by keeping strange men away from your home. I did the same. It’s also a great way to weed out predators. If they can’t access your children, they probably won’t stick with you. My daughter probably gets annoyed that she isn’t allowed to spend the night at her friends’ houses, but I’m willing to endure the wrath if it means I know where she is. She also has to play outside where anyone can see/hear and she can hear me calling. Only allowed to go in one friend’s house from time to time after asking me, has a time limit to be home, and the mom and I text each other. You’re right about lessening the risk!

@miranda13c

Жыл бұрын

It blows my mind when a mother just brings random men to their home where their children are.

@realeyesrealiserealliesful2957

Жыл бұрын

@@courtneyr6645 I was an only child who lived with my single mother and all the kids in the street would come play in my house if it was raining or we had to fill up water balloons etc my friends would always end up staying at my house ( they always wanted to stay at mine instead of me staying at their house) I remember the first time without my mom she was in hospital I was 5yrs old and she signed herself out at 3am because I wouldn't sleep. My mom's 1st boyfriend since I was born was when I was 14 years old first man she ever brought in the house. 1st time she went out drinking till 3am I was 11 years old and the next time I was 18 yrs old lol and imagine my mother was taking class a drugs all my life and I only found out age 14 as social services told me

@VikramRajput-cu5fk

Жыл бұрын

Y u all people r divorced in usa ?

Never let a child walk home alone. My daughter's Mom's friend would watch at one end of the street and I'd be at the other watching them walk home.

I can't believe that a mother would allow a young child to go out alone. Poor child and poor parents!

@ja1505

Жыл бұрын

In a small town like that I can understand why she was allowed to walk to her friend's house. I think her friend's mother should have called Lindsey's mother or had her call her mother. Hindsight is always 20/20. It's scary that the killer has been free all these years.

This is heartbreaking...I've got an 11year old...can't imagine what the family have gone through

@kimbarleemoon3870

Жыл бұрын

It's funny how my parents in the 70s were very protective but yet we could roam around our neighborhood alone all day... I wouldn't let my kids do that today no way!!!

@courtneyr6645

Жыл бұрын

@@kimbarleemoon3870 Times have changed for sure.

I know they are probably use to it, and I’m not saying the friends mom is bad. But…. If i was the friends mom i would never let a child walk home alone. I would’ve sent her home myself. It’s never safe to let any child under 18 out there by themselves.

@mackenziekrch4525

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@M4NSpray

Жыл бұрын

It’s not safe for anyone these days

Yeah I grew up in a small mountain CO town in the 80s. My Mom used to drive my friends home and sit to watch and make sure they got in the door. This is heartbreaking. I feel so bad for the lady that didn't let her stay, a few extra minutes of her busy day could've saved a lifetime of horrible, and not to mention the terror that little one went through in her last moments. So sad.

This genealogy forensic is the best thing ever happen to crime .....

So her mother says she left her cell phone at home, and her friends mother says she cannot sleep over. Why did she not let her use the landline or her mobile to enable her to call her mother. Strange business.

I love seeing cold cases solved. So many cases have DNA waiting. Sadly finding bodies is so much more difficult.

@jomoland

Жыл бұрын

Wait did I miss something? I thought the Lindsay Balm case is still cold???

@gailcondino6996

Жыл бұрын

I can’t help but be annoyed with the friends mother who woudnt let her stay over !!! Why let her walk home ??!! I’m sure she knew she forgot her cell phone at home.!!!! Give her a ride home or walk her home. ! She should feel guilty ! Shame on her

@courtneyr6645

Жыл бұрын

@@gailcondino6996 that’s a terrible sentiment. You have no idea what was going on at the time, or whether it was feasible for her to walk or drive her home at the time. Why aren’t you asking why the mother wasn’t looking for her child at 9pm, especially if it wasn’t clear she was spending the night anywhere? Police were called at almost 11pm. Nonetheless, It was a small town, everyone was complacent. The blame lies with the monster who committed this crime. Without them, you wouldn’t be here commenting such heinous things. Shame on YOU

@mindymiljour4672

Жыл бұрын

@@courtneyr6645 oh please. It's valid and the friends mother should not have let a 10 year old walk home in the dark.

@Manlkiwaa

Жыл бұрын

@@gailcondino6996 Agree totally selfish..cause if it was her daughter she would not let her walk alone.

This is so sad. I don't even let my 14 year old daughter walk alone. This is every parent's biggest fear.

I lived about 10 minutes away from where this happened and my daughter was 9 at the time. I can even imagine what I would have done had that been my daughter. No parent should ever have to feel that kind of pain.

Melissa and her daughter Lindsay and Lindsay’s brother are always on my mind and in my heart So sad. My sister Jamie Grissim disappeared walking home from school over 51 years ago in Vancouver, Washington never to be seen again. Praying 🙏 Lindsay and her family can get some kind of justice and answers.

@vicster3758

Жыл бұрын

So sorry that happened to your sister

@LiverBird2

Жыл бұрын

Iv just read up on Jamie's case... I'm so sorry... x

@allahlovesyou7241

Жыл бұрын

💔

@karenmcneill2602

Жыл бұрын

Oh Honey. I am so sad and so sorry!!!

Holidays without your children, is heartbreaking .

@blessedbeyondmeasures7532

Жыл бұрын

Any day Without your children is heartbreaking

The mother who didn't let her sleep over full of guilt so sad.

@johnhurd6243

Жыл бұрын

Breaks my heart

@scheezy

Жыл бұрын

She should be.

This was “2002”,..Things were already bad at that time for children being abducted. It began getting bad and scary for children when our children were becoming young teenagers,…I began keeping them on a “short lease” then! As the years went by, it became even worse. I know it’s easy to think that this kind of thing would never happen to you as a parent, no matter what kind of community you might live in,…”monsters are everywhere”! Please mothers, bond together to keep children safe. 🙏

@Thisismetman

Жыл бұрын

My son was born in 1996, I never left him alone. He certainly would be walking , alone without our knowledge!

@kerncod22

Ай бұрын

This was in 2009 actually

I would never let a child leave my home like that.

You can feel her friends mum feels really guilty about saying she had to head home. To be fair she shouldn’t have let her walk home by herself.

@beckhan2144

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely she should not have!

No little kid should be walking alone at night.

9:15 p.m?!?! Why would you send a child, 10 years old, out to walk home alone!!!!

That friend's mother...I can't imagine how horrible she feels for saying No to a little girl & letting her just walk home alone that night.

@scheezy

Жыл бұрын

I hope the guilt destroys her.

Why would the other mother tell her she couldn't stay, but never even try and call her mom to be like hey she is needing to be picked up. Or even walk her home herself, like how could you just watch her walk off into the night. I don't know but that is not a friendship if you don't care enough to make sure my child gets home safely.

@piscesempress1978

Жыл бұрын

Thats what I would have done, I would have walked her home or called her mom. Its strange.

@tpvixmq

Жыл бұрын

Probably that was how her parents treated her so she did the same to the kid without thinking that anything could go wrong 😢

Everyone feels sorry for the friends mom, but I don’t. Shame on her. How could you do such a thing? She was a CHILD, not some 25 year old partygoer. She deserves all the guilt she feels because she didn’t want to be “inconvenienced”.

@thompthomp

Жыл бұрын

Responsibility needs to be put on Lindsay’s mom as well because who lets a 10 year old even stay out until 9pm anyway???

@Thisismetman

Жыл бұрын

Correct, they are both responsible for that little girl.

@officerfarva3666

Жыл бұрын

And really why not let her stay the night? If it got too late or close to dark, and my child’s friend asked to stay, I’d be on the phone with their parents and be okay with it. People are freaking WEIRD when they don’t allow a child to spend a night when they’re good friends with their own child.

@laurapotier9816

Жыл бұрын

@@thompthomp agreed. It's tragic, but it's the parent of the child's responsibility to pick up their child.

@dont_harsh_my_mellow

Жыл бұрын

@@laurapotier9816 So then why not call her mom? Instead of...idk...TOSS HER OUT OF THE HOUSE TO BE WALKING HOME! AT 9 PM!

I remember seeing this case on America's Most Wanted back in the day but I didn't know they found her body.

Shame on the friends mom. She should have either called her mom, drove her home herself, walked her home or let her stay overnight... any of the above 🙏🏼💞

At the very least, I'd say that the mother of the child friend that sent Lindsay home UNSUPERVISED after 9 p. m., should be held accountable for child endangerment at the very least because it was HER negligence that led to Lindsay's demise

NEVER , NEVER , EVER WOULD I ALLOW A FRIEND OF MY CHILDREN TO WALK HOME ALONE. As a matter of fact, I go out of my way to keep kids safe in my community.

@80amysue

Жыл бұрын

Same here. There’s an 11 year old girl who rides the school bus with my son, and her grandma just drops her off at the stop and leaves every day. I let her sit in my car until the bus comes, and I drive her home 2 miles every day; because otherwise she would have to walk, and I can not let her just stand out there or walk that far alone. I just could not have that on my conscience if something ever happened to her.

@ugh9671

Жыл бұрын

It's awesome 👌 👏

I know that lady feels guilt for sending her home, but she did the wrong thing. She should have given her a ride or called hee mother to pick her up. I would never allow a child to walk home that late at night. That poor child. If any parent did that to my child, I would totally blame her for my missing child.

@zyrosqrd2552

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but she'd probably done it safely many times before, and there were no other such incidents. People get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking their kids (or themselves) to be without risk walking on their street.

@Thisismetman

Жыл бұрын

It’s the mothers fault as well. Didn’t she know her daughter didn’t have her cell phone? That shows she didn’t keep a close watch on her daughter.

That poor mother and the mother of her friend. They both must feel so crushed to find out she was killed. May she rest in peace

There is no way, if a child was at my house playing, could I just send them home without making sure they made it. Why wasn’t there communication between moms? I know that mom feels bad but to just send a child out to walk home alone?

Can’t imagine the pain and guilt the lady who told her she can’t spend the night that night has felt after all this time. Terrible

Oh. My. Goodness! I'd NEVER make a child walk home that late at night!

@davidt01

Жыл бұрын

This was several years ago in a small town.

@beblessed2022

Жыл бұрын

People make mistakes unfortunately.

@parrotsandmore7446

Жыл бұрын

Right! I can’t believe the mom said she couldn’t spend the night, and sent her on her way without calling her mom. I would be so angry

@justmejo9008

Жыл бұрын

Please 🙄 .. you won’t now because of this crime. Safe neighborhood, little late, you have laundry, lunches, dishes to do and kids to bath, you might have done the same thing. Better to say I will now never be too busy. Don’t make this woman feel worse

@lisapully9274

Жыл бұрын

@@justmejo9008 you DON'T know me.😡😡 We live 5 min. Walking distance from school. I have daughter's that are 31, 29 and a son 24. ALL through school, I drove them. My mother laughed at me about this. I told her, "you may laugh, but I ALWAYS know, they made it to school." When their friends from school, who live near the school was coming over or going home, I NEVER allowed them to walk, especially when by them self. I knew that I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if something happened. Sooo yes, I Would have driven this young girl home!!

If you would like to learn more about this case, I recommend the podcast Truth in the Shadow ,which was created specifically about this case and has five episodes so far. The podcast reveals some details that I had heard nowhere else, for instance regarding the police dog searches for Lindsay after her disappearance and where those searches ended up.

@LiverBird2

Жыл бұрын

Thanks just subscribed xx

I’m glad investigators didn’t give up looking for her.

Omg so sad! That mom that told her she couldn't stay..... Goodness me such a weight to have on your shoulders. Honestly, I'd be mad if I was that girls mom. Like call her mom, don't just kick her out.

@poom641

Жыл бұрын

Most people are low i.q. self centered simpletons

@crilleman7186

Жыл бұрын

She should be in prison, for puting a child at risk. You dont leave a child on her own if you are not absolutley sure there are a trustwhorthy adult right beside them.

Why was this 10 year old walking around by herself? Why wasn't that asked? This little girl was walking around at night and both her mother and the friend's mom wasnt concerned?

@berninyberg8765

Жыл бұрын

9 PM is still daylight in Washington that time of year...houses were within eyesight of each other...

The parent that kicked her out without even calling Lindsay's parents is SO WRONG!!!! I could NEVER send a child out into the dark alone. Shame on her!!!

@tamikawiggins6230

Жыл бұрын

It was probably dark when she walked over there..Just bc it happened on her way back home doesn't mean the person wasn't already watching her walk over there. She told her mom she felt like she was being watched..I wouldn't of let her go over the friends house without knowing if she was able to stay the night. That's what phones are for..Don't expect every parent to want to add on an extra kid. U never know if that mom needs a break.

This has always bothered me. I went on a poker run with a group of bikers the day after this happened. Seen her flyer at the McCleary tavern.

@patrickcostin511

Жыл бұрын

Yeo,

That's why I don't understand how a parent could speak negative on AWP for finding their child. It could effect the motivation to look for another child. I hope they help this case as well 🙏

@nikkikidd8428

Жыл бұрын

Just remember that she was frantic and it’s human nature to want to place blame so they have someone to hurt. She probably hadn’t slept for days and sleep deprivation is dangerous and really fucts with our mind

@RainyDay6913

Жыл бұрын

Her mother isn’t right, somethings very off w that woman!

@HardyWeeed

Жыл бұрын

Her mother acts like an alien.

@thetruth7343

Жыл бұрын

Stop saying 🙏 they don't work @ all whatsoever U need 2stop making wishes they don't work Smfh

@Melvinreed80

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruth7343 u need to stop worrying about what I do. Now how's that for the truth

I have seen her mom still has signs up all over when I drove through, prayers

@HannahRoot55

Жыл бұрын

Where ya from 😮 ??

@ronaldedwardpotterjr.6361

Жыл бұрын

CALI

@vampiregoat69

Жыл бұрын

@@HannahRoot55 Washington State

What kind of a person is this friends mom? You let a little girl walk home in the dark? Shame on you! Disgusting. At least give the girl your phone so she can phone her mom

@slinkiegirl2001

Жыл бұрын

that is why my mom never did all these sleep overs

@joydarling314

Жыл бұрын

I thought that too. She must have been so scared walking by herself.

@kimbarleemoon3870

Жыл бұрын

Or just give her a ride!

I warned my kids of stranger danger and they asked me "What does a stranger look like?". Problem is, as another lady said here,we walk among them every day and sometimes these men look like everyday people with nothing alarming about them. When my son was a teenager he told me that someone was ringing through to a public telephone box on the route from school. Another younger boy answered this on a daily basis and told my son that the friend he had made on the phone was going to leave him a gift at the telephone box. I contacted the police and they were not really concerned. I then contacted the phone company who were amazing,involving the police and they caught the guy who had been calling numerous phone boxes in the immediate area of schools...

Thank you for always coming through for us!!

*Genetic genealogy* is a powerful tool being used to crack *SO MANY!!! cases,* even those cases that seemed destined to remain unsolvable- sitting on a shelf somewhere (hopefully that is... since evidence and the case files have this bizarre habit of disappearing...) collecting dust, pushed to the side. Meanwhile, memories fade, immediate family and friends pass away, and an awkward, uncomfortable impasse is reached. I cannot imagine how difficult it would be to keep waiting and waiting. Lives are often derailed in one way or another; it becomes 'normal' to talk about everything as either ★BEFORE★ the murder or ☆AFTER☆ the murder. I would struggle with the generic press releases insisting the case remains "ACTIVE" ~conveniently preventing the release of crucial documents/evidence/case files for other people with fresh eyes, less bias, and perhaps a different skill set that could be of immense value!

@jamescobrien

Жыл бұрын

There has been false arrests because of genealogy testing as well. One guy who got falsely imprisoned for 8 months had a skin shedding condition, they found his dna at the crime scene. Then later he was proven innocent after 8 months in false imprisonment.

@kimbarleemoon3870

Жыл бұрын

Are we headed toward a Minority Report type of future?

It's incomprehensible that someone would snuff out a life over one encounter.

When they say she loved Harry Potter my heart broke, I lost my brother in law and 3 friends to murder, I feel for her family, my heart goes out to you, to have your daughter missing for so long would break you.

@barneyronnie

Жыл бұрын

I don't want to be your friend!

@nikkikidd8428

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know what barney the troll is getting at , saying he/she doesn’t want to be your friend lol. I too, have lost my bf to murder 12 years ago and his case still has not seen any arrests or convictions. It’s been a very difficult and seemingly never ending nightmare but I can only imagine how much more painful it would be to lose a child to murder and in your case, 3 people you loved dearly. I sincerely hope that you are able to find a path that brings you closure or at the very least enables you to make peace with your loss. I don’t know if there is any type closure that can be reached after a loss so great, traumatic and debilitating but I do know that you will find a way to channel all of your anguish into fuel helping you to continue moving forward. Take care of yourself anyway you can and when you feel like you just cannot take one more step , ask for help xoxoxo

@flej01

Жыл бұрын

@@barneyronnie i totally get that, I felt cursed for a lot of my life xx

@flej01

Жыл бұрын

@@nikkikidd8428 i think he means I'm a jinx, it started to feel that way, murder is the hardest loss to deal with, it sucker punches you that anyone coukd take someone you love. I'm so sorry about your boyfriend hun, I hope you can get closure sone day for him and you. Thanks for caring enough to reach out, such a beautiful soul x

@rochelleshon306

Жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to you, your losses are unimaginable. The fact you have compassion for others, despite this, is testament to the kind of person you are. I would gladly have a friend like you. I’m sending you a hug, wishing you peace, and keeping you in prayer. 🙏🦋

Not to sound insensitive, but why was a 10 year old kid walking home alone from a friends house? especially when they live in a trailer trashy area, which usually means a higher crime area with more shady people. 10 is too young to be out alone in this day and age sadly.

@spinsandneedles

Жыл бұрын

You might want to look up what it costs to buy a house in McCleary or the neighboring towns.

2min into the video an I'm already saying WTF are you doing letting a 10yr old little GIRL walk 10min down the road by herself at 930pm at night....then u wonder why shes missing

It's always good to see more coverage, any coverage, on Lindsey's case!

This poor mother, I can’t imagine anything in this world more painful than what she has experienced

@nathanlyon8775

Жыл бұрын

I can

@nathanlyon8775

Жыл бұрын

A eviI abusive mother

So a mother allowed a 10 year old girl to walk home at 9.15pm all by herself? Wow!!! And that MOTHER didn't call Lindsay's mum to let her know she was on her way!! She can cry all she likes but I think she's a terrible person.

@jenniferconroy4517

Жыл бұрын

Not at all helpful for these families, prayers for both families, you don't think they know what your saying , your only rubbing salt into the wound ..prayers

@crimetimeAU

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferconroy4517 I'm just saying IMO I would never let one of my daughters friends walk home alone at 10 years old especially at night. And saying she was only there for 2 mins? so she gets there and is returned straight home without a play date. Yes, poor mother who lost a child that night, if it were my daughter everyone is a suspect until she is found. Sorry if that hurts their feelings but mine would be very hurt

@jenniferconroy4517

Жыл бұрын

@@crimetimeAU you can say what you want but it's not helpful now , nothing we say will change the out come , so why put blame on people that is and will always suffer the consequences ...leave it rest ..prayers

@crimetimeAU

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferconroy4517 I'm allowed to share my thoughts, KZread is an American company that should support the US constitution and the first amendment which respects freedom of speech and religion. They are the rights of everyone no matter what your opinions may be.

@itswickedsweet4409

Жыл бұрын

@@crimetimeAU so under protection of the first amendment, we can also declare that you are a horrible person for posting hateful comments.

Tragic when so easily preventable,

What kind of an adult, let alone a parent, let's a 10 year old walk home after saying they couldn't spend the night? Absolutely deplorable.

I live in Washington State.I remember this like it was yesterday.

I was just thinking about her a few days ago. I've always had hope her case would be solved.

@nathanjamesbaker

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion the crime has been solved: all evidence points to Paul Bieker. Whether he will ever be brought to justice is another question. I do hope and believe he will eventually see justice.

Wow, that poor woman is consumed with heartbreak! Absolutely tragic for all involved!

The drum circle music is really, really, really annoying. Really.

So sorry for her loss

Cases like this is why we MUST have the death penalty, ONLY it needs to be served 30 days after conviction. EVIL must be removed from the planet.

@skyeblu1722

Жыл бұрын

I so agree….there is evil that cannot be rehabilitated…..

Sad world…

So, this lady said she couldn't spend the night, and sent her on her way to walk home, several blocks back to her house? Total neglect. That woman should have called her mother to let her know to pick up her daughter. I would look into that woman's husband. Everyone is a suspect.

As a parent, I'd never send a kid out to make their way hope without understanding the potential consequences. We must be responsible for each other. What else do we have.

Unhelpful & irresponsible friend's mother. A normal person, particularly a Mother & it getting dangerously dark to walk home for a child, would offer to use their own phone to call child's own mother. How does she feel now? I can't stand unhelpful ppl. They are selfish.

Strange that her friend’s mother could not give this girl a ride home. Very strange

maybe that other parent should've TAKEN HER HOME instead of having her go outside by herself, dang man. Or at least called her mother to come get her and take her home..and the mother could've also callled to see if her daughter needed to come home yet. This is due to neglegence on these parents, they are partly to blame..

The mother let this young girl walk home alone at 9PM? She didn’t call her mom? What kind of adult pulls some s*** like that???

@eluilus4017

Жыл бұрын

Criminals ate guilty! If there would not be those, no crime! I hate how always parents are made more guilty than criminals! They are not!

@eluilus4017

Жыл бұрын

And if you are not criminal yourself you can't think about all crimes they do.

@eluilus4017

Жыл бұрын

If you are criminal yourself you sure may be more aware. Or you want others / parents victims to be more guilty.

@eluilus4017

Жыл бұрын

@Glory Days no they are not!

@ashtenlastname4045

Жыл бұрын

@Glory Days Yes i get you exactly. BUT it was 5 blocks straight to her house 10 minute walk. I am sure both of these kits probably went to each other's houses all the time so it is nothing unusual in such a small community.

Parents living a heartache and nightmare that never ends, trying to maintain the strength and courage to keep looking and never give up. EDIT: I'm surprised to see parents allowing such a young girl to walk that far basically at night. I get that I used to run around the tiny town (like 500 people total and everyone knew everything about each other) I grew up in at a young age, but I had to be in before dark... and I dont remember ever being allowed to stray far at that age without adult supervision... and I'm talking back in the 90s it was pretty much a no-go.

@nathanjamesbaker

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't yet dark when Lindsay went missing. She was abducted around 9:15 p.m. on June 26, 2009, which was also right around the time of sunset. (It stays bright out really late in the summer in the Pacific Northwest.)

@codybarry8204

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanjamesbaker well its not light all night long though is it. I lived in the Pacific NW. And Canada in the PNW Its desolate up there. So many freaks too.

@nathanjamesbaker

Жыл бұрын

@@codybarry8204 It wouldn't take "all night" to walk a couple blocks home.

There are men at large that are so driven by their lust and depravity that the threat of prison, torture by other prisoners and even horrible lingering painful death does not deter them from committing unspeakable acts on innocent young girls. Just so disheartening. So thankful for the dedicated and committed professionals who make it their priority to find these evil beings.

If I had millions I'd pay to have all the coldcase dna kits tested.

Its your responsibility as an adult to make sure kids that leave your house, make it home safely. Especially when they are leaving after dark.

@HannahRoot55

Жыл бұрын

Where ya from 😮 ??

@The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door

Жыл бұрын

It was dark she should have walked her home.

@courtneyr6645

Жыл бұрын

Not always. I’d say it’s an adult’s responsibility to make them leave before dark

@kathyannpardi9888

Жыл бұрын

Dan DaMan, Absolutely 💯, that adult was responsible for that child's safety.

This has to be worst thing to happen to a parent. I cannot even imagine the heartache & pain.

Thank you so much for covering Ryan’s case. I originally wrote to you before they had found his killer. There was little to no coverage on his case when I first came across it.

I can’t imagine letting a 10 year old walk home alone. Why would you let her stay so freaking late if she couldn’t stay?. She should blame herself for the rest of her life along with the murderer.

Although everyone seems to be against GPS trackers, I really feel that people should consider them.

@bigfishysmallpond

Жыл бұрын

Dude, I'm in. If you'd chip your dog then..., at least an emergency watch with a panic button.

Sad...

I can't even begin to imagine how this mom coped for all them years not knowing. Hope and pray that they find the killer, n that they pay a big price.

I remember when this first happened I never thought it would be solved

the mum who said no to her staying the night is gonna feel guilty for the rest of her life.

@amalaljaber1748

Жыл бұрын

what time did she send her home??

@Tuxiedo

Жыл бұрын

@@amalaljaber1748 like 9pm. It was June so it was still “light out” but it was getting dark

I'm glad the second cased got solved. They were vulnerable and trusted the wrong people.

How this mother kept going through holidays birthdays data months years 😱😢 Mother gets answers sadly not what we wanted but her mother knows now 💔

People call me overprotective…but this is the type of things that I wouldn’t allow. My daughter is 16 now and I still wouldn’t let her walk alone day or night. Accidents happen as well. You can’t prepare for everything but simple things make a big impact.

@piscesempress1978

Жыл бұрын

Same here... I dont give a crap what people think, you cant be too careful these days.

I'm so very sorry. My condolences. This is so tragic. So very sad. Lindsey was such a beautiful adorable personality. Heartbreaking.

My heart breaks for this mother and all other parents who have experienced this type of tragedy. I trust no one.

The dude handing out fliers... the first words he said are what every guilty person says.

So devastating 💔 such a beautiful little girl. There has been multiple reports of children and people missing in that area over the years that just vanish close to Vancouver Canada border.

It's not pleasant to acknowledge, but there have always been predators looking for prey in public places, counting on catching their victim by surprise. Parents would serve children well to instruct them to be aware of who is around them, try to keep distance, and what to do if someone tries to grab you. Teach this when they're young, so they hopefully won't become teenagers thinking they're protected from the world, and understand there is no safety if they don't have their wits about them if impaired by alcohol or drugs.

For the love of God, why would any mother let a 10 year old leave their home that late at night. She coulda drove her home 😭

@tonyprice2256

Жыл бұрын

I know right?