My Wireless Seatpost has a big problem... Let's hack it!
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I love my Rockshox Reverb AXS dropper post. It’s solid, works quickly, looks good, and is operated wirelessly. I’m unwilling to use another dropper post, especially one with a cable release, but it’s starting to look like a good idea. The battery in the back of the Reverb hits into my tire when the rear suspension compresses all the way. Today, we’ll seek a solution for this issue.
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The escalation from calm to hacksaw was faster than I expected
@spencertanti1265
Жыл бұрын
Hack saw is plan B, Oxyaxcytelene is I'm not asking anything 🤣
@cavemanvi
Жыл бұрын
ability to have kids? OVERRATED. HACK. THAT. SEATPOST!!!
@James.._
Жыл бұрын
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ take your invisible friend somewhere else...
@Vincent-_-123
Жыл бұрын
That escalated quickly.
@LuisSierra42
5 ай бұрын
@@cavemanvi based
For a $800 accessory, that's a major design flaw. Hopefully the manufacturers are taking note
@iggywow
Жыл бұрын
should have just engineered it into the seatpost somehow, I'm not big brained enough to find a good way to do that but still
@onlyfoolriding8223
Жыл бұрын
I mean, he literally let all the air out of his shock. When is he going to do that?
@raheemgahelable
Жыл бұрын
I hated the design from day one, it looks like a single giant testicle hanging in the back! Uh!
@ghostAFsky
Жыл бұрын
@@onlyfoolriding8223 That's just to make it easy to demonstrate moving through the travel. It's not like there's extra travel when you take the air out, it's the same effect as if you bottom out when it's filled properly.
@schwuzi
Жыл бұрын
@@onlyfoolriding8223 That was to show how close the tire comes to the battery when it's fully pushed in. Letting the air out was just so he could show how close it gets on the bench without compressing the suspension by hand.
The part where you said “I know you don’t feel bad” and “the six of you that have this problem as well” were golden dude
This is amazing. "The 6 of you" joke was perfectly delivered, but I also love seeing the reverse engineering that went into this.
If there was ever a project to justify adding a 3D printer to your "tool box", I think this was it.
@vlbz
Жыл бұрын
This ^^^
@tri-seeker2753
Жыл бұрын
Justyfying is for kids, adults buy 3D printer as a toy 🙂
@benoc9966
Жыл бұрын
@@tri-seeker2753 A decent 3D printer is far more than a toy.
@michaelsummer7082
Жыл бұрын
I just bought an ender for 100 bucks. Within a month I had made enough little doodads and stuff that I would’ve paid 10 bucks a pop off Amazon for that I’ve pretty much paid for it. They are so easy to run.
@kotomile
Жыл бұрын
@@benoc9966 a decent 3D printer is a tool as much as it is a toy :)
Only Seth would mess with a $800 dropper post😂 Your content is great Seth, keep it up!
@JasonTankard
Жыл бұрын
Well as long as he tested the battery first, and made sure his soldering job was good, then in theory no issue, he only messed with at first what seemed like one expensive battery, but he solves this by getting cheap amazon knockoffs. WIN! And he didn't fry the $800 dropper, but if it ever plays up, there won't be any warranty, because SRAM has seen his video lol
@thisishowiedewitt76
Жыл бұрын
Seth doesn’t have to pay retail either and even if he did, $800 is a pittance in comparison to how much money he’s going to make off this video.
@Durwood71
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was gifted the dropper along with his new bike. And besides, dude makes hundreds of thousands a year from his KZread videos and Patreon donations, so worst case scenario, he could buy a new one without even feeling a twinge in his wallet.
@piciu256
Жыл бұрын
Believe me, he is not the only person in the world, doing sometimes stupid modifications, that completely destroy the value of the part they are using, sometimes an expensive part at that, and often those modifications don't even make sense, at least he takes some effort for looks, unlike some (unlike me 🤣 )
@MikeR65
Жыл бұрын
@@thisishowiedewitt76 he got the bike for free he probably got the dropper for free too.
That was intense, the emotional involvement. I feel you, stuff like that has happened to me a lot. Thanks for showing us that hacks can go wrong, and may end up frustrating you. That's part of tinkering with stuff, but usually failure means learning. Maybe you'll wake up one morning with a perfect solution for this. Then, the feeling of accomplishment will be even greater than the current frustration.
So, I'm someone who is fresh to the mountain biking community. It's cool as hell to see the accessories you can get for a bike now of days. You can honestly build awesome little machines out of them these days. That bike Seth has setup is a piece of machinery in itself, I love watching his videos and learning something new every time. He made me a master of fixing my Walmart bikes for my nieces and Nephews lol
6 years ago he had a basic hard-tail and he didn't want more. Look at him now😁
@PoopLasagna
Жыл бұрын
Been a while since I’ve seen spoderman
@michaelpelant4591
Жыл бұрын
Ya dude that’s true
@Assassinoffi
Жыл бұрын
you’re right
@i-_-am-_-g1467
Жыл бұрын
That's what happens as your skills grow, no harm in trying different disciplines but an 800 dollar dropper post is a joke.
@SM-bk4ye
Жыл бұрын
Materialism
I think Rockshox should pay Seth for giving them an idea to make their wireless dropper post better.
@EstebanGonzalez-mo2bw
Жыл бұрын
That’s sram
@flotto7045
Жыл бұрын
@@EstebanGonzalez-mo2bw same company
@Outsideville
Жыл бұрын
Include a hacksaw with the dropper? 😉
@th_js
Жыл бұрын
@@EstebanGonzalez-mo2bw It's the same company, and it's literally a *RockShox* Reverb.
Seth is literally me working on a bike I mess one thing up and then a next until the part is broken. But Seth is also a great bike mechanic.
This is why I started watching Seth's bike hacks back in the day I love this type of content
I feel like the biking industry is the only industry that tries to justify a 4x mark up on a part because it's wireless.
@godking9027
Жыл бұрын
Good example is mice, anywhere from 50 to 100%. Dropper post? 400%. Pretty sure the techs the same.
@PkonradW
Жыл бұрын
@@godking9027 Economies of scale don't really favor low-demand, high complexity stuff like wireless dropper posts.
@adamweb
Жыл бұрын
Amen, I just ordered a new road bike with "outdated" mechanical Ultegra for $4000. Di2 Ultegra is $1400 more and even Di2 105 is $500 more than regular Ultegra!
@rustler08
Жыл бұрын
They justify a markup because it's a hobby for rich people. We have $90 MTB tires that aren't anything special other than their own "branding"
@BermPeakExpress
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the newer products are always at a premium to cover the design costs and low production numbers. Unless you want the newest thing out, it’s better to wait for the price to get slashed by 50%
I approve of the remote battery hack! I know Seth ended up just hacking off the seat post, but for anyone else: make sure the battery has some Armor against meteorites flying off the rear tire. If you pierce a flat battery pack they do tend to shoot flames.
I work an an Industrial Automation Electrician, and I can say confidently, that things being unnecessarily automated or electronically controlled, is hardly ever better. BUT it keeps jobs around for me, because people continue to do it, and it always fails! 😂
@jtrider3779
Жыл бұрын
@end I understand that, but the point I was making was… is removing a simple, and reliable cable for an expensive, bulky, and battery powered part that requires charging really worth it? In Seth’s case, it looks like it created a bigger problem than any problems or nuisances it may have solved.
love seeing these kind of videos where you apply non-bike knowledge to problems like this one, greetings from chile!
@ryanm5909
Жыл бұрын
Santiago Chile here. Originally from Kansas
@noahb676rfnn9
Жыл бұрын
Oh sick! I just skied Valle Nevado and El Colorado a few days ago 🤙
Am I the only one hear who doesn't mountain bike.... but watches everyday video. This man is an enabler to me when I do DIY projects. Love ya Seth 🤙🏽
@keqrou
Жыл бұрын
Yes you are, now go buy a mountain bike and create memories
@lazariusmtb
Жыл бұрын
You're the only one ))), so go get a MTB and join the club.
@keqrou
Жыл бұрын
@@lazariusmtb can confirm you're opinion is valid
@thomperkins
Жыл бұрын
No you’re not. I love watching his videos.
@thomperkins
Жыл бұрын
Poor guy. His dropper post needs fixed. This is such a first world problem, but I feel you, Seth. You the mang!! Keep killing it with the great content!!
Seth, SRAM should send you a check for doing their R&D, or at minimum, a new post, free of charge, when they inevitably take inspiration from what you just did!
@uberfu
8 ай бұрын
Nah ... they just need to fire the 12 yearold iditos they hired for R&D and actually hire qualified people + a Q/A deprtment of MTB enthusiasts that know how to rbeak shit before it hits the market. A wireless dropper post is a solution looking for a problem. Clears up clutter - but adds the weight of a battery pack (or 2 since the handlebar switch also needs power).
I love this, so many times I've been down similar roads in my workshop. I feel you Seth.
This video was pure gold start to finish. From the time it took to go from sane to hack saw was about the time of my patience level. Totally relatable!
"For the 6 of you that have this problem as well." - Im dying. I love you Berm Peak. Im just a casual rider and I cant cant enough of your problem videos even though I will probably never experience them lol.
This was absolutely genius. Sums up everything I love about this channel in a single video.
Combine both of your solutions - turn seatpost around AND use that adaptor - in that way you can't hit it with tire AND you can still make bigger family 🙂
@alexambro4998
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking. Also I believe he should purposely put a weaker connector so that if the battery ever falls or gets yanked out said connector will just disconnect instead of ripping the tin work
@craigsawyer6453
Жыл бұрын
What about just putting a saddle on that has taller rails? Less change = easy.
@alexambro4998
Жыл бұрын
@@craigsawyer6453 it surely would be worth looking into it, but I'm not sure if thy make them already
@benoc9966
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it was the battery that was impacting the seat or he would have done that.
@RC-fp1tl
Жыл бұрын
@@benoc9966 it was the battery
Love the video!!! They do make slim profile batteries I found them on Amazon and they are pretty much the same and I have been using them for a few months now and no issues I think a 2 pack go for 35 bucks
I always enjoy Seth's content regardless of what he is doing, however, when I saw him break out the hacksaw I genuinely tensed up and said out loud "Oh no...don't do it"
@Deniggafyer
Жыл бұрын
“No don’t do it, I’m a virgin!”
@Hummingbird-ju7tk
Жыл бұрын
me too, I was like put the saddle on backwards first, verify this for me.... noooooo its cut
I just bought my first mountain bike (I'm 48 in my teen years in the late 80s early 90s i raced BMX poorly but raced) i haven't regularly ridden in 20 plus years. I bought an e-bike only 500w but it gets me up and down the Smoky mountains (I'm your neighbor near Gatlinburg TN) I spent $839.48 for my ebike I can't fathom spending $800 on a seat!!! I can't wait to look back a few years from now and see if my attitude about that changes! Lol awesome job man!!! I have already learned and relearned so much watching your channels, you ROCK MAN!!! Thank you!!
@JasonMHoyt
Жыл бұрын
DM!!! Lol
That adapter looks so good. It looks like you bought it. Congratulations man. You did an amazing job. Making it look like you got it from a store is (for me at least) the hallmark of good diy. Too bad it didn't work 😕.
He will have 10 new dropper posts arrive at his house in the next 5 days, all for free.
@bullcr4p
Жыл бұрын
Thats what I call marketing
@topspot4834
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure out of the 300k+ (will probably be double that next week) at least a handful of people are at work right now building a solution to send to Seth ... Amazing for as long as he's been doing it, he continues to be at the forefront of new ideas.
Love it, "For the six of you that have this problem..." Great video, as always!
You're as good as it gets man. Always entertaining and useful.
I was so impressed with how you engineered a solution to a problem and I felt your pain when it didn't work.
So now SRAM will redesign the whole post then send Seth a bunch of them to use on all his bikes so all his followers go out and buy the newly designed post, it's a win for Seth and SRAM.
@somethingelsehere8089
Жыл бұрын
Yep. It would be a huge PR win for SRAM to hop into this chat with a meaningful response.
I love that you make everything as relatable as possible but I cant help but start the '3D printer' chant!! This would definitely be the perfect project for it!
I love how real you are in this video thanks for posting
This was super cool Seth! You definitely need to do more videos like this!!!
You could 3d print a super thin plate to connect the seat post terminals to the battery, or you could solder wires to the terminals then run them to the location of the taped battery which would be even slimmer than the printed plate.
@kargi42
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Even better he can print a bumper for the Ergon saddle so that the saddle makes the first contact, not the slim adapter.
@silentminority2342
Жыл бұрын
3d printers suck
@bAdorablePeach
Жыл бұрын
@@silentminority2342 quite the opposite actually, they squeeze material out
@Freezorgium
Жыл бұрын
@@silentminority2342 cope harder, you're just mad people can make self-defense "tools" with them
Today were gonna do something diffrent, but kind of the same
You had me laughing so hard. I loved watching this process and can totally identify with you. Thanks for bringing up an issue with the wireless droppers. I have been thinking of getting one at some point. Hopefully this will get reengineered before I pull the trigger!
Great video Seth! I love the simple solution to a unique problem
Man I've been on the fence for getting with those for a while. I did the axs shifters and absolutely love them. Really tough to swallow $800 for a seat post.
@willbros1499
Жыл бұрын
The people here locally LOVE that post, and have stated that they would forego the drivetrain for the post if given a choice of one or the other. I don't know anyone who has one and has said anything negative about it.
There's just no way. I wish people wouldn't pay outrageous prices for things just to say they have it. So it's worth 600 dollars to not have a cable but have to keep up with a battery?...I can't see it. That being said love the channel keep up the good work!
@wishfull3nigma
Жыл бұрын
Its the early adopter fee. Any new tech always costs more because its not mass produced. I already think 200 for a dropper is crazy cuz its just a hydrolic tube but theyre way cheaper than when they were first released
@joseph-the-seventh
Жыл бұрын
The early adopters will happily pay a lot of money for the new tech. Normal people like us will benefit from them paying “outrageous” prices when the product first hits the market, because the early adopters make the product market viable and the manufacturer then increases production, and other companies take note and make their own versions… all of which leads to lower prices. If nobody bought these AXS droppers now the tech would probably die and never take off.
I like that you went straight into hacking it to pieces instead of getting longer seat rail clamps made for the thing
So relatable! First couple setbacks I read the manual and watch videos. Next thing I know is I'm hammering some part mangled by an old washing machine clamp because my DIY tool I built from car parts and random shop junk failed me. Annoyingly enough, I usually buy the proprietary tool the next day and it all goes extremely smoothly from there...
Open the actuator body and solder to the inside of the connections, then just a blank plate to cover where the battery used to be.
@jbrc1322
Жыл бұрын
This is what I thought was going to be the first attempt.
The background in automobile electronics definitely has given you some helpful insight and confidence in this. I had an idea I wanted to put out there for people that have more time and money than I do... But check this idea out... a pressure sensor that is built into the seat that will know when you sit on it...it needs to be in its raised position...and when you get off the seat...the relay will click knowing it should drop and get out of the way... Similar to electronics in a power car seat...one could determine the settings where you want the stops to be at for the upper and lower position. Would this be a good idea?
@SimonBauer7
Жыл бұрын
wont be a bad idea for shure! 10/10.
@gr8fulride
Жыл бұрын
To be critical of your great idea - as you are pedaling along seated and want to stand for a quick sprint or gain some advantage over jank, then want to sit and resume seated powering on, the seat would be dropped and need to be popped back up. There is another bit of ingenuity needed to solve this . I like it. Push the lever before you stand to bypass the seat drop feature. Stand to drop the post. You have something there love it
@stephenlukyn2138
Жыл бұрын
Build it and they will buy….
@wrecked3m
Жыл бұрын
That sounds a lot like a hospital flip assistant if you ask me
@Pienimusta
Жыл бұрын
You have to squat every time you want to sit in. Horrible idea.
Thanks Seth for going the extra mile. I ride a size small and go for a 150mm dropper so pointing out that flaw does highlight the cons since I'm considering getting one. As for your battery hack, I think you can get away with replicating the pads with a PCB and 3d printing the rest including a separate enclosure for your battery that is secured to your seat instead of the dual-lock.
@markwilson170
11 ай бұрын
I have a Rail size small and have lost 2 batteries so far because of wheel contact. It’s only happened on the absolute biggest hits but still frustrating
Great work Seth! Appreciate you trying out such crazy ideas🤣
“Do I commit or do I look up the Manuel and do it properly” There always one in every video and I love them!
Sorta glad you went with the hacksaw approach, as I'd rather prefer you having an uncomfortable seat than a LiPo going off right underneath your crown jewels. Just saying, those things are evil and don't like getting cut up or wet.
@wilyamiyoo
Жыл бұрын
Yeah was hoping it would be in a sealed container that can be easily swapped other than a double-sided tape but lol where's the fun in that? lol
@somethingelsehere8089
Жыл бұрын
@simrock: you said "those things are evil and don't like getting cut up or wet" right after mentioning his crown jewels. I lol'd at the 'image' that resulted.
You are a mad genius when it comes to making things more streamline
Seth's car audio days still paying off! Pretty damn impressive!
I think you need some form of overdischarge protection, or the batteries will be single use. Unless that's built in to the post of course.. Something to think about!
@brandonreimer184
Жыл бұрын
Many battery packs have that built in. Much easier to use a cell like that than to put it into the post.
Shame seth didn't stick with the lipo battery solution, would have doubled up as a seat heater in the wet too 💥🔥
@lamefart8831
Жыл бұрын
Or a minibomb for his jewels. Lol Now that's a new meaning to bombing down the trails.
I have this exact same problem when g-ing out. Love this dropper, but really hope SRAM moves or redesigns the battery on v2. Had to raise my seat to keep it from happening.
This channel has come so far. Look at us learning about basic DC circuits and soldering!
That seems like a lot of work just to avoid having a wired dropper post.
You should be fine with a higher stack saddle. I haven’t found AXS Reverbs to be that reliable personally, and there’s an unacceptable amount of side to side bushing play for something so expensive. The only real upsides are the lack of a cable and how easy it is to make small adjustments to the amount of drop. I’m running a BikeYoke Revive with a PNW lever now and it’s a lot nicer than the Reverb…plus I can run a post with more drop in my frame than I can with the AXS Reverb. I like AXS shifting a lot but the seatpost is a bit overhyped in my opinion. 🤷🏻♂️
@BermPeakExpress
Жыл бұрын
I got it working with a WTB volt!
Excellent work Seth! Great idea.
Nobody can stop you. You are at the peak of your creativity. And, oh please, change the angle of that seat. We want to celebrate with you for a baby boy!
Got the same post and I agree, the best dropper post I also ever owned. I live the ability to switch between my fatbike for winter and my full suspension in summer in a breeze!
Lol at first I wondered where you got your soldering and wiring knowledge then it hit me. RC. Good job dude seriously
this video was so funny seth thanks for being original as always!!!
Amazing content seth and the team! Have a Nice summer :)
I feel you pain - 5’6” with a 29” inseam. Droppers have been the Bain of my existence, 29ers even more so. Not from a riding perspective but continually buzzing my butt when landing jumps. I now just keep to 27.5
Excellent solution I feel he did a great job!!
That is a most excellent mod. I love my AXS dropper, crazy money but sooooo convenient and tidy.
I needed this bit of comedy in my day. Thanks, Seth.
Your video just induced that familiar feeling of putting your best effort into a really nice hack and having it fail the first time you use it. I thought for sure the second plan would work too. Funny enough, my version of commit would have been to either solder directly to the battery terminals or to crack open the case on the controller and fish a wire out. Your version of commit is probably better.
This is the first time someone has been truthful with a axs dropper. Everyone else, it's perfect just perfect. Thank you Seth. One-up components for the win. Stick with the basics
@RomanE_____
Жыл бұрын
And it's heavy asf
@MotoAtheist
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this be bike specific? He rides a small frame which puts those components closer to the tire where a medium frame probably doesn't even come close. And it may also be just this specific bikes geometry causing the issue. He's had this dropper for some time now, on other bikes, and we never heard of this issue. So yeah, to everyone else the dropper post is likely perfect.
@silver_c1oud
Жыл бұрын
@@MotoAtheist its not perfect and its overrated. period.
@TheGrundigg
Жыл бұрын
@@silver_c1oud .period. dot...dot...dot..., you see what I mean?
@MotoAtheist
Жыл бұрын
@@silver_c1oud For you it's not perfect and is overrated, for many others it is indeed perfect for their needs. But hey, the world revolves around you, right?
I was happy when he said let's hack it 🤣 thats how he got where he is today love it man keep it up 🤙
Great video Seth! I hope Sram sees this video and upgrade their wireless seatpost :D
As a lifelong guitar player and guitar, pedal and amp builder/modder for about 10-15 years this episode was right up my alley. I'm constantly making DC power supply's to get rid of active pickup 9v batteries and adding power supply's to lighting etc etc etc. If it has an electric pulse of any kind and can be improved in some way it WILL meet my soldering iron and I WILL get way too excited and post on Marshall amp forum about my brilliant idea after having proven it works and is indeed an improvement lol. When Seth said "for the six of you who have this problem as well" I couldnt help but feel relieved since I'm not the only one who gets excited about solving problems that only a very small amount of people actually have and even smaller amount have and care enough to fix it. Edit: EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS VIDEO IS RELATABLE! Loosing your temper and working frustrated is always a guaranteed way to become more frustrated lol. Yet I still do it....regularly....
Great solution wel done.
Haven't we all been there... re-engineering something and hoping that it will work? As I get older I find that what worked for me for years my "kids" (now adults) break. When I asked my oldest he said "I thought anything you did would be built proof." Can't even get mad when you are getting a complement.
Ah... what I like about this channel! Nice video!
Thanks Seth keep it up!
another great video seth
Nice video! It's cool to share the fail. Thanks
Good ol fashion bike hack from Seth You love to see it
Great video; ur editor deserves a raise!!!!
i really love your new bike seth.
First ever bodge to be seen on this channel 😅 But probably still better than the original design it seems! Way to go! And I am sure you‘ll find an even better solution soon 😃
love the scx24 battery combining my favorite hobbies!
I am so happy you lost your temper and went full commit. Great content.
While I know the end goal didn’t happen the way you wanted, I’m still insanely impressed with how you got there. Your intelligence is way beyond most
I have spent approximately 800 to update a “free” 2014 Hardrock. New Markhor fork (old SR coil fork was shot) a complete XT 1x12 speed drivetrain, new cockpit, new PNW dropper. Your 800 spent on just a dropper makes me feel a lot better about my spending on this project. :)
Hillarious episode. Love it!
PLS DO A PART 2 IN WHICH YOU TOTALLY MAKE IT WERK .. WITH THE SEAT BEING ZERO HUMPS... TNX SETH REALLY ENJOYED IT!
Seth bike hacks is back!!! hehe i love it, that reminds me... what happened to the baby oil brakes? 👀😶
I fill like they should buy this idea from you. Great ingenuity
that's why we watch ur videos, Seth bike hacks is back lol
Agreed! It’s a crazy expensive dropper, but I love mine. Luckily I don’t have the issue of the battery hitting. I did think the battery relocation was genius! Too bad it didn’t work out
0:23 sounds Exactly like Joe barbaro from Mafia II - I also love when Seth mentions the "Goods"
Thanks for posting.
You are amazing. Thanks for another awesome video.
“I know you don’t feel bad for me” haha I appreciate the honesty
the return of "Seth's bike hack's", diy for life
seth with another banger
This channel is fast becoming my favorite and this video is proof you might be one bad lab accident away from becoming a super villain.
Seth! Thanks I fell like Fox will get the hint not SRAM. So I can’t wait to get the next Fox wireless post