$1500-2k for that brembos and dampers package is a hell of a deal. You’d probably be paying that, if not more, for the brakes alone in the aftermarket.

@normalusorasotutokstoras

3 күн бұрын

Front and rear brembos 4.5 k euros

This is the car that started this KZread journey for you ! You should get one Matt

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

It would be one of my top picks if I needed to buy another car!

One of the best drivers cars ever made for any money. Period. Even Chris Harris called it a bargain everymans 911 GT3

@jake2772

13 күн бұрын

Just so slow for the money.

@moldyrefrigerator

13 күн бұрын

@@jake2772 For the money? Mine is stock and I've beaten a VA WRX STI and 350z. What more do you want from a $30k car???

@subiesnacks8446

13 күн бұрын

​@@jake2772 compared to what? Let's see what kind of brain you have

@ak740_

13 күн бұрын

@@moldyrefrigerator I have a few bolt ons and ran dead even with a focus RS rolling start. People thinking this car is so slow is astounding. Then again, you have to know how to drive, you can lose to a mini van if you don’t launch the car in its power band or don’t know how to shift

@jake2772

13 күн бұрын

@@subiesnacks8446 u must own one. Compared to a Ferrari obviously.

Great review on the updates! Good job, Matt.

Nice quick drive/review. Looking forward to the Ecoboost Mustang comparison 👍🏼

People complain about not having lane keeping assist. Do they really not realize how annoying that stuff is?

@GT-RTData9

11 күн бұрын

People forgot how to drive.

This is one great video. thank you for making it.

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching it!

1:05 lovely doggo!

Hell of a car 🙌🏼💪🏼 love that blue color!

Go ahead and refinance the house for one of these. Haha, great video --can't wait to see the next comparison video!

Great review Matt, i love these cars also. Wish i could have one for weekends. A quick easy solution for annoying dash lights is a piece of black electrical tape placed over the offending light 😅

Great job Matt. Given the price point would like to hear your thoughts on handling and braking comparisons with the Elantra N. Or is it apples to oranges being RWD vs FWD?

Too bad you only get the options on the GR that Toyota gives you with the allocation process. Can’t order and pick your pleasure. Had my 2024 premium MT in Pavement for two weeks and loving it. I was hoping that I could get the performance pack, but you take what you can get. Rowing the gears!!!!!

I think the best pick is a base manual 86 or BRZ. You can the fun slides or upgrade it yourself, it’s a blank canvas so you might as well start with a cheaper entry price.

Big fan of GR86 💪🏽👍🏽

Nice video Matt. It's surprising the GR86 PP is so much less than the tS. I'm going to creep over to the Toyota dealer and see if I can score Brembos on the cheap for my BRZ 🤙

I have 19' BRZ with PP and prefer this set up over the special editions. Dealerships love to mark them up anyways. Not sure about the tS side of things, but does the 2nd gen tS and Trueno edition get the flexible draw stiffners and goodies like that yet? If not, getting PP for these cars are a nice addition for sure. Never felt the need to replace the SACHS shocks or go aftermarket. I do plan to go K&Ws when they are done. Brakes, the brake calipers are nice and all, but that was just about the only thing I've kept. I replaced the rotors with larger ones, went with more aggressive brake pad and stainless steel lines, and flushed & replaced with the Motul 600 fluid. Massive difference, and the Brembo calipers look perfect with the larger rotor & stock wheels. When I drove non PP BRZs, I've felt the difference between stock and brembo brakes, but not as much as I hoped. So if somebody really wants to feel a difference, invest more into the brake system, at least for the 1st gen for sure. Given the development history with the 2nd gen and how they are carrying themselves, I am assuming the 2nd gen's PP packaging is the same, maybe a bit more aggressive brake pads?

Is it possible to get Aluminum knuckles on a BRZ with PP? I hear they flip them to Toyota steel ones if you option for the BRZ pp package.

Is performance pack available yet as an up for previous year models??? I don think it’s availabilie

Just received my 24 GR86 Premium. I'm really enjoying it and the linear power curve is very predictable in the twisties. Going for a track day soon! It makes me giggle!!

@zozika

7 сағат бұрын

Do not forget to change oil after track day! Exterm important. And boxer engine, so it will use some oil ,as athe Porsche :) it is not problem.Brilliant car.

It sounds like the fake engine noise module is still hooked up or activated. That is the sound you are most likely hearing. I unplugged mine, you still can hear the intake sound a little bit though, might be because I have the GR performance air filter though.

You should buy it Matt

It took about 20 minutes, but I popped out my cluster the clear lens over it pops right off too, and I put a little piece of electrical tape over the departure lane icon, and while I was there, covered the green hill assist icon (manual) just because, WORTH IT. the tape literally blends in with the black, dont even know its there. that was a big gripe with me, I hated the departure warning, but I hated the icon too.

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

Great idea!

@donaldwiggins7740

11 күн бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring thanks! Yeah, now my cluster has no bs lights and it’s great. Been averaging 28mpg too. Pretty happy, fun daily

I have one of these. The EyeSight system is pretty annoying to me. I often have to move slightly out of lanes around here due to construction or cyclists or whatever and it's annoying to have it chime all the time so I disabled it. I wish I could permanently disable the pre-collision braking too as it randomly likes to beep and brake a bit if someone is slowly leaving the lane or if there is a roundabout or bushes that go out into the road somewhat. Hopefully they add an update to permanently disable these without the bright warning lights in the dash. They also need to add a software option to adjust or turn off the fake engine sound. But the way it drives is fantastic. I like it more than my old 2017 BRZ with the Performance Pack.

@jdmteggy2388

9 күн бұрын

Jus unplug it and fake engine noise goes away should be under glove box did it in type r and lots of cars with it

@Bristecom

9 күн бұрын

@@jdmteggy2388 I did unplug the active sound control but I just meant it should have been an option for the owners and they should be able to adjust the volume and tone of that fake engine noise but we can't. It has it's own large box and processor and speaker just to only be able to make one tone at one volume!? Absolute fail.

Love this car

Can you tell a difference in throttle mapping between the Subaru and Toyota? Is the Subaru more linear? Is the Toyota more “on off”? Thanks, great review as always.

@boldcitycc

11 күн бұрын

I have a GR, ad my son has a BRZ. having driven both, I can tell you that the BRZ is definitely more linear. The 86 gives you the perception that it Pulls stronger. I don’t believe one is faster than the other. It’s just a little trickery on the part of Toyota. I’m not sure how I feel about it honestly, as I’m the one that owns the GR86. In someways, I like that it feels so eager to pull, but it can also make starting out a little trickier sometimes. And it’s all just a little sleight of hand, Toyota has 80% percent of the throttle in the first 30% of the pedal. as you get further into the pedal, there is very little more there.. we live in different states, and I flew up there and did not have my car. So not being able to drive them back to back makes it harder to 100% say which one you like better

I have to say, I'm a huge fan of the color. Even the fake intake noises are sounding pretty decent these days. What a great platform this ended up being.

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

I agree!

So it's been a good week then. ❤

A couple of Toyota dealers didn't seem to know that you could get the perf package as a dealer installed retrofit?

Oddly enough these are more expensive to insure than one would think!

Looks like a hoot to drive!

Matt is gaining those lbs

I started following when I first bought my 2013 BRZ limited. We had the same car. Now I have a 2024 BRZ tS in the garage. Still here.

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

That’s awesome! And thanks for following the channel all these years!

Didn't even think about the gr86/brz and ecoboost mustang being competitors. Should be interesting

@andycalifornia426

13 күн бұрын

If these are considered competitors, let's throw in some BMW i220 (or whatever lowest trim you get in the states) into the mix.

What is that color called

Great for back roads and auto X, but terrible on track*. I hope Subaru addressed the RTV issue. *without reliability mods

🔥🔥🔥

How is anyone able to buy one. I haven’t found one yet

I want one

What's crazy is im getting 19mpg combined in my 10 speed mustang gt

@b5audidoggie130

8 күн бұрын

I also have a 19 10r80. Not sure what you expected for mpg 😆

You should review the 2024 Hyundai ELANTRA N-line. It looks pretty cool since they changed the front end.

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

I’d like to if Hyundai puts one in my press fleet!

@devn3813

11 күн бұрын

The full N is way better than just the N line.

@EdWoodson.45

7 күн бұрын

​@@devn3813 N Deed

what a cute little car

Anyone able to buy these seperately off toyota parts yet?

I'd be afraid to take this thing to the autox hearing how the engine will even blow up at events like this ....let alone HPDE

I've always wanted an 86 in manual. Currently in a 20 mustang gt auto. Hate the auto. First of 5 cars.

9:17 - ...why Subaru charges more than Toyota (in US)?... Here in Canada, I just purchased BRZ tS and save $7K vs. Trueno... My question is, why Toyota charges so, so much more in Canada... Plus, I got my BRZ tS in 3 months vs. 12+ months waiting time for GR!!!

@subiesnacks8446

13 күн бұрын

Because the trueno version has heritage. The subarus are just made so subaru makes a little money on toyota's idea. I'm glad subaru has more cars out there, makes mine more rare and valuable.

@user-ix9hl4uw5i

13 күн бұрын

@@subiesnacks8446 As same as you, like and wanted GR86 Trueno... however, for $7K less I chose absolutely the same car with Subaru badges... + I'm using that money to upgrade the car.

@subiesnacks8446

13 күн бұрын

​@@user-ix9hl4uw5iespecially if your gunna mod the car. Basically replacing the stuff the manufacturer replaced and charged you for. No need for the double charge. If your on the west coast of Canada, maybe our paths will cross someday at a meet. Enjoy the car man

Tell me about that B roll dog though

MX5 is the answer. The 1990s plastic explosion interior , is ….. 90s

Is there still an rtv issue?

@paulkersey6283

13 күн бұрын

Ofc they’re all in the pickup tube..

@michaelwakim2198

12 күн бұрын

Except it doesn’t really cause any issues. Oil starvation, however is a very real and documented issue with these cars, with some very simple mitigation- overfilling by around 1 1/4 quart of oil, along with the oil being 5w 30

That fuel efficiency is bad for such a small engine, but I Love the car. Considering the cost, would you go with WRX (assuming a slight discount) or GR86?

@FDT_USMC_oorah

13 күн бұрын

Do you want all wheel drive and useable seats? WRX. No then GR86/BRZ.

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

I agree with FDT.

@anthonygreco8285

12 күн бұрын

I was getting average 30 MPG with cruising and traffic from VA to NY (300 mile trip). It’s bad around town where I’d get 22 MPG with more city type driving.

Is NVH in this better than the new WRX?

@MattMaranMotoring

13 күн бұрын

I'd say they're fairly similar but the WRX might be slightly quieter.

Toyota needs to make a new 4 cylinder. Then I’d possibly buy one.

@abcwarrior91

11 күн бұрын

All talk you won’t lol

@z32luvr

11 күн бұрын

@@abcwarrior91 true. They aren’t that great.

What's with this fish-eye effect in most modern cameras? I used to loathe the way the new 86 looks based on KZread videos, but when I saw one in real life, it looked good, it doesn't look this droopy.

👍👍👍👍

GR86 gang rise up. Pooorrsche 😂

🙂👍

Wish they used the WRX drivetrain in it.

I'm no expert, but the maths of "short gearing = inferior fuel economy" don't add up. Isn't fuel economy about the RPM (given two identical engines)? Higher RPM typically is more fuel burning, and with shorter gearing, while in the same gear at the same speed, one would be at higher RPM. But the beauty of gears is you can upshift and you'll drop RPMs. What am I missing here? Unless we're talking about economy strictly in the top gear where you can't upshift any further?

@nberkel

13 күн бұрын

Yes, in most cases that is how it works. Unless I'm missing something this jives with the low fuel economy findings he mentioned...

@Elephant_Thoughts

13 күн бұрын

If you look at Subaru engines across the board-- they are far from being fuel efficient. They would benefit the most if they added a hybrid system to their engines.

@nberkel

13 күн бұрын

Couldn't agree more there. For a company that touts sustainability and environmental friendliness they sure have some inefficient vehicles...Marketing at its finest.

@richardhoulton4016

13 күн бұрын

I’m with Matt on short gearing, close ratios. Current manual Porsches and even the current Mustang have had their performance hobbled by long gear ratios aimed more at fuel economy and emissions than performance. It great that the 86/BRZ and Miata still have nice tight short ratios….but to Matt’s point, it doesn’t help the 86/BRZ’s fuel economy.

@skifree0

13 күн бұрын

You basically answered your own question in the last statement. Short gears means even in 6th rpms remain high at cruising speed, and that leads to higher fuel burn...In the city it's actually pretty expected for a NA 2.4L, I get bout 22mpg real world... In highway, is where the short gearing really hurts and I only get 29mpg (going about 80mph and crusing rpm around 3200) .

Performance package on an 86 is an oxymoron. Needs an engine swap

Amarica needs too continue building turbocharged car's supercharged car's as well naturally aspirated car's in America 🇺🇸 BANN ALL ELECTRIC CAR'S IN AMERICA

@MirsTrip

12 күн бұрын

I and many others are excited for electric cars

@subiesnacks8446

12 күн бұрын

​@@MirsTrip great, go buy yourself the audi etron then. Sold for 160k, used for 60k.......there's always gullible people like you to buy these things then take a massive hit financially. But your not buying gas and your saving the earth. maybe one day you'll awaken from your dream.

Who buys an auto ...

Wow a tiny beard 😅

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