My Tiny Rack
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This is the 10" mini RackMate T1 rack from DeskPi. They sent it to me to test, and I've installed a couple SBC Linux clusters for learning inside!
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Jeff don't worry, rack size is nothing to be ashamed of.
I‘d love to build a pc in one of these.
@Daddo22
2 ай бұрын
Me too. Even with 4U Mini ITX PC I'd still have plenty of space for switch, router, Home Assistant and 2U NAS or UPS. A 10" 2U UPS with DC outputs that'd allow you to power everything on the rack would be incredible
@limepotato
2 ай бұрын
multiple pcs
@YannMar
2 ай бұрын
@@limepotato I was thinking multiple graphics cards (I‘m doing deep learning) and maybe a NAS server.
@guruoo
2 ай бұрын
@@Daddo22 Might as well build the rack, too. That would allow you to build it to your own spec.
All racks deserve love.
@Internatube
2 ай бұрын
Nope
@aclearlight
2 ай бұрын
You are SO RIGHT!
@vladventura1928
Ай бұрын
TRUE
I have my network gear in a 6u 10" rack that fits perfectly in a ikea kallax shelf.
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
Ooh... put a bunch of them in each little cubby and you have a mini HPC cluster in your living room :D
@autohmae
Ай бұрын
On the cableporn forum I saw a bunch of people using Ikea. I think IKEA Lack tables
I am so happy to see this. This post gets my juices flowing... I have been thinking about replacing my 42U rack with a custom 10" 12 U for home and a similar 10"4U for travel.
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
I'm on the hunt for a good PDU or UPS for it, that's my missing piece to make this thing perfect. I found a couple half-rack PDUs, one is for audio equipment, one is from China, but they're both over $50 shipped. There has to be a good way to mount up power on this thing!
@rubenb.molina6968
2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling i look forward to your findings. Btw, I didn't realize deskpi's prices were so affordable. I might change my mind on a custom design and retrofit instead. Sweet! And thanks again! My first thought was to daisy-chain a set of "battery banks", either COTS or with a custom PCB. However, I am yet to consider switching times, overall reliability and lipo cells lifespan.
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
@@rubenb.molina6968 I would love to see a good power solution for mini racks. I can imagine just 12v/5v (or just 12v) could bring down complexity a lot.
@Kitteh.B
2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerlingwhat audio one did you find? Am an audio engineer and may be able to shed some light. If it's Furman, it's good stuff! But there's other brands out there, too.
@Level2Jeff
2 ай бұрын
@@Kitteh.B Atlas Power, I haven't personally tested it but it seems well reviewed at least.
"Flat?" "Just as god made me!"
a MOTU ultralite audio interface would fit nicely
@Floridamarrr
2 ай бұрын
You got a point and I’m all for it
@tenthtonman
2 ай бұрын
you just sent my imagination into a tailspin with this comment.
The best part is not needing those weird clips that cut up fingers
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
Heh, cage nuts. But then how do you offer the blood sacrifice every time you install something?
@grumpycloud
2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling The Blood Sacrafice™ will find a way. I didn't have cage nuts and still found a way to cut myself while installing rails for a server.
@HunterGeophysicsAustralia
2 ай бұрын
Y’all need Patchbox /dev/mount instead of cage nuts.
Easy portable gaming server, with networking, guest gaming VMs on a PC and a display on the side for monitoring and game scores.
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
Ooh now that could work out too! Or if you use the little 1U mini ITX trays they have, and find a CPU cooling setup and RAM that'll fit, you could get 7 computers in there, with one per guest!
Holy smokes! I've been dreaming about condensing my desktop computers into something more compact. I had moved everything into a 15U under my desk, but that little rack would fit ON my desk with my Mac, Linux box, and Windows box all in one!
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
It's the perfect size for a Mac mini!
Small racks are underrated. Lots of people prefer small racks. If you're thinking of upgrading your rack, just find someone who appreciates the rack you already have.
@kennethkline7794
2 ай бұрын
😂
There's still room to put two cups on top of that rack. It all depends on the cup size really.
For many looking to get into making their first home lab, this is a perfect choice for small scale learning.
The best UPS solution I've found is, if the rack has a bottom, you could put one of those consumer UPSes that's the form factor of a chunky power strip in there. Would take up 4U of space to allow for plugs (though if you maybe used some flat right angle plugs from a power strip or adapter Id bet you could do 3U).
It's like a "mosquito bite" rack
I need a UPS that fits this form factor
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
Ditto!
Having this for a portable DJing setup would be sick, just not sure how much equipment is available in a 10" form factor
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
I've seen a few bits of audio gear from Lowell and also on Sweetwater sound. There isn't a ton (besides things that would fit on a shelf), but I've seen some amps and small mixers at least.
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
2 ай бұрын
Could fit in an MT32 and a Roland Sound Canvas, doubt you'd get a scratch deck in there though.
@coreymartin9630
2 ай бұрын
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Definitely not lol, more thinking that you could put the decks on a table and hook up to the rack underneath it
@riccardoz2953
2 ай бұрын
Consider also the depth, not only the wide. Standard size allow to install all avaible hardware, . Plus, due the intended use as mobile rack , id strongly reccomend ruggered structure, shock mounting and lids
A network switch, a mini computer with Proxmox running Home Assistant and something like FreeNAS, and a UPS (if that last one exists in this size). That would tidy up all my home networking stuff very nicely.
Throw out that Netgear switch and put in a Mikrotik CSS610-8G-2S+IN or other of their 200mm wide switches with their RMK-2/10 rack mount kit. These shelf-mounted switches seem to me as a makeshift solution. Let's hope that in the near future more vendors (Cisco, Ubiquiti, Netgear, TP-Link, Huawei, etc.) start producing 10" rack mounted gear, as that would help a lot in making this form factor more wide spread.
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
Oh nice! I never knew Mikrotik made a half rack kit like that-just ordered two, since I have a spare microtik CRS half-width switch I can test.
@AttilaSVK
2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling you can use that kit to mount two half rack units side by side, or if you break off a part of it, then it will become a 10" mounting kit.
I would actually LOVE this for running 2 or 3 x86 ITX PCs. "Desktop" server rack
I'd build hi-fi gear for that. Cute little thing of beauty.
That lools soo cool. Thank you for showing it, will use it in my new project.
Awesome ! I'm literally planning out a mini-ITX daughter board to mount and mange a cluster of RPi5's, including being powered by a Pico ATX PSU / 24 PIN header
I remember taking my old pc to my friend's house whenever we had a sleep over, so this would actually be better, especially with a UPS and low powered computers. Be cool to have a little screen that folds into the case and is easy to pull out. I think the laptop looking ones from a full size rack might be cool.
I just spent the entire day exploring 10 inch rack gear because of this vid :( .. the 2u cases is the only one I could find online.. but there is plenty of racks, patch panels and other covers/shelves.. here in Europe anyway
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
In the US we have so few options!
@Pytte
2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling yea such a shame, the rack you have is very expensive, compared to some of the stuff available here in Europe.
Jeff for such a little rack it's quite stacked.
Baby's first rack! Ethernet cables sold separately.
Great solution for the bare minimum for a home networking pop, modem/switch/AP/firewall (mini pc with opnsense). I’d be interested in a PDU that would accompany this form factor to keep all the devices power bricks within the rack. Maybe a pole/tray addition to set the AP. I literally thought of something like this last year and tried using a aluminum file tray organizer. Guess I should get a CNC 🥲
Proxmox or Docker cluster with a SAN. 3 x x86 systems and 10gb switch.
Cant copy any test from shorts descriptions on mobile so cant get the link, you think that would be fixed by now
this is really cool, with more companies will do something like this, and products for this size.
Looks really cool, could you do a full video on it?
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
You're in luck! I did over on my 3rd channel, "Level 2 Jeff".
@lepostral
2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling I see, must have missed that. Omw, thanks 👍
Computers and radios, Jeff. Computers and radios.
That's cute.
Dude i want this 😮😮😮
Jeff running his own Itty bitty committee?
My homelab is 9U 10inch rack. With PoE switch, patch panel, some RPi (and Oranges), two mini PCs with Proxmox (cluster) and a lot of 3D printed mounting. Shame there is not more 10 inch stuff :/
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
Definitely! What switch did you settle on? I'm looking for a decent 8-12 port PoE switch that'll fit. Wish they made rack ears for them, but a 3D printed adapter could work too.
@thatRixCZ
2 ай бұрын
Not-managable Tenda TEG1110PF-8-102W. It has 8 PoE ports plus one uplink plus one SFP uplink (10 ports total)
Could you compare this with a Navepoint 10 inch rack? They're one of the only other companies offering a rack in this form factor in the US, and they have a 12U four post cabinet for a similar price!
Happy Birthday BASIC!!!
I'm actually in the process of making my own server rack from scratch. I'm using a Minisflrum AMD 8 core mini PC as the base.
That looks awesome!
Been caressing the idea of 10" for my next devops lab 😍😍😍
I love this rackmount frame! 😍
Built something similar from extruded aluminum profiles. Houses a "mobile" homelab with Mikrotik routers, pfsense on old barracuda hardware, and 2 itx boards with 10 core Xeon 64gb ddr3.
This looks perfect for an fpga development/accelerator build
I would use it for audio equipment, like a sound card, a compressor etc
Need this for my dorm room, would be perfect
A drupal front end for me to drop videos into my ML ingest pipeline!! wow this is exactly what I want!
Right now I'd run CI/CD for Candle, the Rust Machine Learning framework.
Jeff is obsessed with tiny things
I love the size, and the idea of a small server for in-home use, but other than network storage, I have no idea how else I would use something like this, let alone a standard server. The only server use I would want is a NAS, maybe some kind of Steam dedicated PC that could be remote played by me or my kids on the living room TV (via Steam-link), or to their individual rooms when they're older.
I dont know what he says kr does but i like seeing weird tech in these videos.
This is soooo cool! I want one
Former Coworker has one of these with a bunch of 1 liter PCs in it
Oh i would love something like this. Althought i would maybe want to the handles out and lay it on its side so that it fits on a shelf in a closet.
Finding equipment that would fit in these non-standard racks is truly a pain though. And good luck if you're on some sort of budget.
I'd take it to mar's as the base basic entertainment system, dedicated plex/cdn server. Also hosting a whole host of game servers to allow people to wind down at the eod.
I have been looking for something exactly like this!!!
do a fully silent home server setup so I can shove it into my spare storage room which is behind a thin wall.
Run on it? Once I saw the price, I'd probably run from it! 😂
The first thing that comes to mind is a USB flash drive. That is to say, a bunch of Zima Blades networked together with about as many external SSDs in RAID as you could cram into the desk pi, and a single USB out to transfer the data, as a DAS, lol. You could probably do some decent distributed machine learning if you were willing to buy the right mini PCs to do it, as a "practical" application.
looks amazing ,
Seeing the title, I knew what you meant, and STILL, my brain went, "Hehe, little oppai!"
i really enjoy it! i don't have much space, so i got inspired by you and this video do make my own project! from scratch, and i will try to document the best i can. does the channel have a discord? when things start fo form shape maybe a post something there :)
My htpc setup, my plex server and my NAS.
Would add a pi rack and the two full size it one would be a firewall and the other kubernetes cluster with the pi rack.
My 4U home server in a vertical configuration ^^
It's so cute!
Nice Rack This is the only case where this kind of comment is appropriate.
@cinderwolf32
2 ай бұрын
Bucks
All I want is my own server to stream my Steam and Epic libraries to various computers, and be able to use the much more powerful components in the sever instead of needing to have a laptop or desktop with $6k worth of parts in it.
My face is up here
These are great. Can you please list where you got the various face plates/hardware from?
seems like something designed for traveling with audio equipment
I wasn't even aware that these existed. I have some 25U worth of 1980/1990/2000s rackmount synths, and they're not light. At all.
Can you attach rails and a metal shelf rather than rack ears? I would love something like this for the many 1 liter PCs I run.
I would try to connect a bunch of networked terminals, and try a computer time sharing system. That and web hosting, minecraft servers lol just because. Render farm? Network Attached storage with little HDDs?
I would build it as a portable HF digital communications setup.
That's PC case with handles!
Where can buy one? This is cool! 😎👍 Edit: For me run, I will modify and run the hardware by connecting four raspberry pi 4 and 1 raspberry pi 3 where it can run multiple type 1 hypervisor that need to be access through authentication, primarily kerberos or TACACS +, to see if can work. That's a big if.....🤔
How much power does all of this pull? Would love an answer to this. Thank you so much for showing us this, it is very interesting.
It's not the size of the rack that matters, it's what you do with it. :D Me? I'd probably do something insane like try to run Openstack on a fleet of Pis.
We need a 10” rack UPS. It just doesn’t exist
Jeff, how to get compute blades? Do you have a recent review video of rack and compute blade?
@JeffGeerling
2 ай бұрын
Good question! I backed their Kickstarter months ago... still waiting on the shipment of 10" rack and 10 blades, but hopefully they'll start shipping to the public soon after. They just started shipping out blades to backers last month.
Ugh how do i get a job doing this. Love it
Where do I get that right angle board for bringing the power and hdmi port flush with the rest of the ports? Needed that since the pi1 launch.
I'd like this
where did you get a half height 10" keystone patch panel? ive been looking for one of those for ages!
@JeffGeerling
Ай бұрын
From DeskPi; they sell it separately from this little unit!
That's nice and all, but what's the compatibility like? How many modules actually exist for 10" as opposed to the common 19" size and at what cost?
Data acquisition cards?
I wonder if a laptop motherboard would fit it there.
Wow so small!
Could it handle a compact double PC streaming setup ?
Mobile gaming server with full DMZ architecture and a security kit.
What are those compute blades?
Awesome rack... wish i have one T_T
More affordable 1U, 2U, or 3U 19" racks would probably change that a little bit. 19" x 19" x ? would be awkward, but possible to put in a car's trunk.
What are those computer blades? Brand?
Where is the rack to buy?
NAS Need more disk space
Is the price to value ratio justifiable?