I love that someone disagreeing with modern feminism needs a disclaimer in the description box. That should tell you everything you need to know without even watching the video.

@createcreate216

2 жыл бұрын

facts

@obscurededges

2 жыл бұрын

feminism is a cancer to society just like cultural marxism is

@benjipixel1438

Жыл бұрын

its almost as if TED isn't really about promoting ideas anymore, just putting them on a pedestal so they can be bashed...

@rickb06

Ай бұрын

​@@benjipixel1438it has never been about sharing ideas, it has always been about sharing a very particular set of ideas. There is very little ideological diversity, so little that it discounts their overall message in my mind.

She's nervous cuz she knows how women are gonna wanna rip her apart for spitting these FACTS. 😩 Stay strong and speak the truth! This video needs more views. 💫

@cancelled_user

2 жыл бұрын

Not only women. Have you ever met "male feminists"? They are the cringiest f*cks I've ever seen.

@DennisNeijmeijer

2 жыл бұрын

@@cancelled_user men trying to get laid will murder for the privilege

@thegameranch5935

2 жыл бұрын

@@DennisNeijmeijer huh?

@MattFoleysGhost

Жыл бұрын

“Speak the truth, even if your voice shakes”

@eyedeekay143

Жыл бұрын

@@thegameranch5935 huh?

Shame on you Tedx for needing a disclaimer for this video.

TED, remove this disclaimer. The entire POINT of a TED talk is to challenge currently held ideas and beliefs, has anyone who have watched this video see it as a threat to feminism? please reply to this message if you think so.

@christopherwolford1062

2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree. Remove the disclaimer.

@xarathos5168

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see a disclaimer. Where is it in the video?

@owengonzales53

2 жыл бұрын

@@xarathos5168 description

@owengonzales53

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! We shouldn’t have to put a disclaimer for subversive thinking. This isn’t hateful at all, and isn’t a threat to feminism either, just a healthy and well deserved critique

@benjipixel1438

Жыл бұрын

agreed.

In a world where unproven truths are flashed around by untrusted sources, we need more of her.

@nikhilgurbani6587

3 жыл бұрын

the funny thing is it those established sources who have harvested people trust for ages are now in the ultimate place of power where they know that no one can question them and if anyone does question them they can easily discredit them by saying that they (their opponent) is not a credible source. This is the kind of stuff we see happening on twitter and instagram through "fact checkers"

Now TED is posting a warning that elements of this talk may be objectionable or distressing......

@texasyankee3512

3 жыл бұрын

Facts can be very distressing to false ideals.

@natejennings5884

3 жыл бұрын

Trigger warnings.

@donnietobasco9791

2 жыл бұрын

You want to make a man angry? Let him catch you spreading lies about him. You want to make a woman angry? Let her catch you spreading the "truth" about her. There's your TEDx "disclaimer" suitably explained. It's an open apology for the gaping disconnect some women have between what they think and how they're actually perceived......only this apology's actually being given TO these women (by TEDx)...for allowing this unsavoury disconnect to be pointed out on their platform because they know it'll attract feminine "heat."

I find the disclaimer in the description distressing and objectionable.

Very power full and thought provoking, thank you for reminding us of the “I am kind of in control and out of control at the same time” quote.

Man she is spitting facts 💯, need more like her bro

Modern day feminism doesn't only set back women, but especially men Modern feminism is quite radicalized into misandry

Thank you so much for sharing with us your thoughts on modern day feminism and talking deeply about this topic. I love watching and listening to you here on the top of the mountain in Italy, thanks to technology, KZread and TEDx.

have not finished the video yet, but i love the objectivity of this talk so far and i am inspired, it is not what people want to hear really but it is necessary that we all have a much open mind to absorb the reality of what is happening around us.

@touchgrass7834

3 жыл бұрын

@@STARSALL011 Tell that the judge who desided, that the mother should be parenting the child, but not the father even if the kid is 7× more likely to get pregnant before the age of 18 (if it's a girl), more likely to commit suicide, more likely to end up homeless, more likely to commit crimes ect. when growing up without a father. We also have to say, that these numbers could be simular, when the father is parenting, but what it tells us is that fathers aren't parents 2. class, but should be equally likely be the one parenting, if the parents are divorced.

@marthaking6779

8 ай бұрын

Minus the simplistic criticisms of modern feminism, nice words of encojragement for girls.

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Thank you Dr van Heerden, it needed to be said.

She brought tears to my eyes...amazing talk

That is what you call a real woman .. when she knew the truth what’s really going on with modern day feminism She had to put a stop to it and spilled a lot of beans in the process 🫶🏽

Thank you for this speech. The 4th wave feminism has a lot of conflicting views around it.

I'm just curious, is the stat about south africa at 4:20 comparable to that of say north america or the uk? What is the difference between those stats? Is there a reliable source I could look at regarding threats in the US?

Thanks for sharing. I wish you all luck on finding the value and worth you deserve. 🙏

@thischannelhasmovedcheckla1235

3 жыл бұрын

@Yin Yan thanks, I assume that's short for sincere intellectually motivated person. Have a Great day 🙏

@thischannelhasmovedcheckla1235

3 жыл бұрын

@Yin Yan I was born with one that's really good so not need to look for another. I hope your having a lovely day. 🙏

Equality mean equal oppertunity, not equal results. Equal results comes from not only hard work, but playing smart, improving yourself, taking on resposibility and accountability. Those last two things are yet to be seen by many.

@touchgrass7834

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't equality of outcome a mith, that could never be achieved without forcing woman to "work with things" and forcing men to "work with people", because men are not as sozial and more interrested in things than woman?

@PricelessBinkey1337

3 жыл бұрын

@@touchgrass7834 it forces women to work for it, but the harsh reality is in an actual equal pace and oppertunity, many will find sadly working the career field is ultimately highly unfullfilling (unless youre lucky enough to land in a job you semi dont mind), plus material possesions arent everything. The ultimate downfall of this movement its like being forced to the plantation without even knowing it

@lawrencemubiru6609

Жыл бұрын

And more to that, equal opportunity won't lead to equal outcome because people choose differently. Women are less likely to choose careers that are rather physically demanding.

We’ll said, she’s the real example of what women before her worked to achieve, admirable!!!

The talks are highly inspiring

I love her speech...

I don't usually comment, but this talk was really amazing...the title was a slight turnoff but I'm glad I watched it, srsly amazing. P. S. Those shoes look painful

Yess queen. Keep up the good work, imbokoto🇿🇦❤🔥🔥.

Dang, only 4.5k views and just 30 comments in 6 months. Very interesting to see 🤷🏽‍♂️

Wow, this is *incredible*. The moment we stop looking at our movements for equality critically is the moment we start to lose the battle. Brava.

Thank you for your braveness!

Loved it!

Real women are those who have guts to say these on camera.

Upload again...use a better volume.

This talk was logical, factual and amazing. However if you want to improv the society then have justice for men especially in divorce cases. These dodgy lawmakers will never want justice

💥💥This is aging better and better!! 👏👏👏👏👏

Excellent video!

Thank god for these women speaking up about their own community. God forbid a man point out these women's problems, they would get cancelled out of existence. Misogynist, sexist, ef u etc.

Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. You'd be surprised how many women I've said this to have a problem with it in principal. They either don't understand it or they want everything to be given to them on a plate.

@edwardso8903

3 ай бұрын

Maybe the average iq in the US just Low. I think it's below 100. But the brainwash strong there though. I mean it's kind of like religion or politics. When the belief intersects with their feelings, they most likely won't reflect and agree with logic.

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

Of course outcome shouldn't be given on a plate, but outcome absolutely matters. If women, men or any group are getting a worse outcome then it needs to be adressed. For example, male suicide rates are a lot higher, despite men and women having equal rights and access to psychological/psychiatric help ( and DESPITE the fact women's troubles tend to be dismissed as irrational, overall health not taken seriously, look it up). Nevertheless, isn't men's outcome concering? Similar to women having worse outcomes in other areas.

Such an inspiration. Thank you !!

👏👏 wow, great talk

Thank you🎉🎉

Very true.

Declaimers.. bad audio.. something doesn't feel right here TedX.

very interesting thoughts!

I. ABSOLUTELY. LOVE. THIS.

@Sukunadagoat

Жыл бұрын

Same!

Truly visionary content; akin to a book that introduced novel ideas. "The Joy of Less: A Minimalist Living Guide" by Matthew Cove

yay

I am gonna have a debate tomorrow between traditional and modern feminism , am defintely gonna be for traditional feminism. Can any body tell me a country who supports traditional feminism??

Amazing!

Why is there little clapping in the end compared to the beginning. Are people mad she’s right?

@FionaColquhoun-st6mn

4 ай бұрын

Probably because it was an incredibly weak and biased argument against feminism. I wouldn’t have clapped at that.

@DagothUr69

4 ай бұрын

@@FionaColquhoun-st6mn uhuuuh. I think you're mad because you're the people shes calling out

I think the topic was "My thoughts on feminism" not "my thoughts on women"

Minus the simplistic criticisms of "modern feminism" some nice words of encouragement for girls.

I have a lot of questions

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Represent Ade 🇿🇦

@SkyeAten

3 ай бұрын

Represent who? The 1% in our country that have wealth and privilege? 😂 She's a medical doctor and beauty pageant winner... Not sure how she feels qualified to talk about what most women's lives are like in South Africa. She hasn't suffered a day in her life. Mammie en pappie het vir alles betaal en handjie vas gehou al die pad. Of course she doesn't think women are victims. I think the worst thing that ever happened to her was her R1000 nail breaking 🙄

This needed a disclaimer because??

A disclaimer...

I have a daughter i definitely i want her achieve everything with all the challenges i as a man have it too so enjoy Singapore don't keep complaining .

This video is getting unlisted & censored!!

👏🏿

@smeekle2000

3 жыл бұрын

South African women are obese and shocking. Time to go to Nicaragua to find a wife.

@wanderlust199

3 жыл бұрын

@@smeekle2000 AUJ 😭😂😭😂😭😭

She said many good things but I would have liked her to say "I can no longer stand that feminism sow hatred in women towards all men because some of those men are our fathers, brothers, sons, husbands, teachers, workers, soldiers who They defend our country etc.

One myth she missed, that children will bring most woman more happiness than any career job or venture.

@OmarElAMMARI-uc2ob

8 күн бұрын

Kids sont bring happiness if you are broke , because being broke makes any problème much worse

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

You are speaking propaganda. Women don't need children to be happy. Of course I respect everyone's choice and I understand why parenthood is meaning of life to many people, but you are dead wrong if you say women NEED to sacrifice their carees, hobbies and everything that previously made them happy for children because it's what they are SUPPOSED to do. If a woman has kids its fine. If a woman doesn't have kids its also fine. Both choices are VALID. And some women are legitimately miserable being mothers and were never meant to be mother, but found out when it was too late. Women need to be informed of the decision theyre making, the risks of pregnancy, childbirth, post partum depression, sacrificing your life for another life.

Separating young people from friends and family makes them more dependent on a movement or "religion"

Equality has to be in both field’s such as you don’t hit me I won’t hit you, Don’t expect to be paid equally when you work a different job. I could say more but let’s start there.

Equality of opportunity- yes Equality of outcome- NO Abide by that? Go crazy. I will applaud your success.

❤️

While I don’t exactly agree with everything she presented, I do feel it’s important to listen and acknowledge different views on what feminism is and what it means to others.

From "Equal rights" to "We don't need men" as a 35 y/o man I witnessed all the waves of feminism.

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

What's wrong with women being independent from men? Men were always 100% independent from women and it worked for them. No one's saying men aren't needed in society. But that an INDIVIDUAL woman doesn't necessarily need a man in her life to achieve her goals and happiness.

@unknownboy8202

8 күн бұрын

@@Luna-ux9by you know nothing kid.....In India when a ngo that work's for men's mental and physical health proposed a national comission for men for India and took it to the supreme court a GROUP OF 100 FEMINISTS opposed it for no reason. Feminism is all about downgrading men nowadays

@dannysullivan3951

13 сағат бұрын

As a 35 year old , you haven’t been alive for those waves.

Remove the disclaimer !

Lovely girl! And clever and truthful.

they really let anyone have a ted talk huh

Something seems a bit odd about the facts that women have earned more Bachelor's degrees than men for 30 years and yet occupy only 7% of top management positions. Can lack of ambition explain this huge discrepancy? Or perhaps the discrepancy is a sign that the deck is severely stacked against women, and they are responding to this by getting degrees in greater numbers.

@hannahsonix469

3 жыл бұрын

But 87% of homeless in UK (Office for national statistics 2018) are men and 94% of all work place deaths are male (USA figure around 5000 per year).... see no point throwing out different stats about different things....0.0001% of people are in top management positions, the break down of male and female is independant of bachelor degrees or other things

@haraldschuster3067

3 жыл бұрын

In my final year in university we had 2 women in my field. Both married and got kids soon after they graduated. None ever worked in the field she studied for - which, in one case - is actually a loss because she was really, really good.

@smeekle2000

3 жыл бұрын

Bachelors Degrees for Arthritis.

@cpeterson70

3 жыл бұрын

Bad degrees. Can't do much with a degree in women's studies. And I know lots who end up staying home after having a family. The deck isn't stacked against women. If they want, they can rise in the ranks. If they embrace victimhood, they always have an excuse. Excuses get you nowhere. After I had my kids, work wasn't as important. I'm a manager now, but not sure I really want to be due to time commitments and kids activities. I like the pay though.

@PricelessBinkey1337

3 жыл бұрын

There are some 150 generally more degrees for women than men, many of them, like gender studies, is highly irrelevant and pretty unapplicable to most of society. College has, as an institution, taken advantage of a mindset that is nothing more than a bunch of women being duped by salesmen.

Feminism is not egalitarianism.

she was spot on bro..... modern women see themselves as victims in every aspect of life atp

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

She should be the representative of feminism, she makes a good leader

@SkyeAten

3 ай бұрын

Why? Because she grew up with wealth and privilege? 😂 Yeah of course she doesn't think that women are suffering in South Africa. I doubt she's ever been to a poor area... (Unless it was a photo session to donate). She's never suffered a day in her life in her rich neighborhood though. Mommy and Daddy payed for medical school, her pageant entries and anything her little heart wanted. She has no idea what a hellhole that county is for most people. Men and women included. She's just full of herself. Not a good leader.

I'm so confused. Because she don't talk about the things feminism really fights for, but about the things that are popularized by media which feeds on drama.

@NerdinessD

5 ай бұрын

Then what do feminism really fight for?

@FionaColquhoun-st6mn

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. It was an incredibly weak and biased presentation that instantly reeked of religious brainwashing for me. Sure enough when I googled her ‘raised in a Christian household’ pops up. I knew before it ended. It’s almost like it was done at the request of her pastor it was so bad. It didn’t speak about feminism at all.

@NerdinessD

4 ай бұрын

@@FionaColquhoun-st6mn I wanna know about the goal of feminism. Cuz modern feminism is different for different people without a clear defined goal. I do support 2nd wave feminism but not the modern. Tell me about the goals of the modern one

@joannalidwin9006

4 ай бұрын

@@NerdinessD reproductive Rights, equal treatment, respect, modern women gets treat like sh*t in work and at home

@joannalidwin9006

4 ай бұрын

@@NerdinessD not saying that men don’t, not at all. But women get ra*ed and slaug*tered all the time because some guys can’t stand some woman didn’t want to give them a chance

No one cares about you so makes no point caring about what you think, the universe don't care what you think

@burritomaster2

25 күн бұрын

are you ok bro?

@newgodx4613

25 күн бұрын

@@burritomaster2 are you ?

The simple fact that more boys are born than girls, yet in the West, by the age of 40, there are more women than men. Why? Because men are much more likely to die from crime or suicide or accidents on building sights, or as police, firefighters and men in the armed forces. Girls are better educated because we have gone from 60% female teachers in 1974 to 96% female teachers in 2019. Education has been feminized, with the lack of male teachers and lack of fathers involvement in their kids, young boys are adrift.

Yrc

Someone needs to tell her the difference between correlation and causation

@tylerlogan833

9 ай бұрын

Why do liberals hate facts

@FionaColquhoun-st6mn

4 ай бұрын

Soooooo true! 🤣

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

Yeah her brain isn't really braining... Was looking for some genuine criticism of feminism but I guess I'm out of luck 🙁

She's has know idea

Let's here talk about it when women are being drafted for war.

TED with a disclaimer... huh

tradtypes acting like ''old school feminism'' was not hated lmao

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

Look at the old anti-feminism propaganda posters. It was hated from the start. Sadly, modern feminism isn't really achieving anything ☹️ just pushing men and women further apart. But her arguments are really bad yeah.

College degree does not indicate how intelligent someone is the Wright brothers that built airplane did not even graduate from high school but accomplished something College educated people couldn't, Thomas Edison, Mark Twain, Charles Dickens and Dave Thomas were successful with out High School graduation also.

I think its safe to say who ever posted this video and wrote the description... was a woman. As Henry Ford once said, "Whether you think you are right, or wrong. You are correct." __You are what you think you are.__

@breadgarlichouse2265

2 ай бұрын

Henry Ford was wrong. There are facts and truths, and then there are falsehoods and delusions. Just because I think the earth is flat, does’t mean it is. I am wrong.

What a women 👌

The history of feminism, the first wave of feminism began in 4026 BCE, when the woman wanted to be equal to God , (Gen 3:5 ) God knows in the very day you eat from it , your eyes will be opened , and YOU, will be.. LIKE GOD , knowing Good and Bad For Yourself ,

@DreadlocksAndKeys

Жыл бұрын

First time I heard someone else make this connection

@keelerhastings7109

Жыл бұрын

@@DreadlocksAndKeys.. Just returned from Houston Texas , as I went through LAX and Houston airports, I realized , other than myself , a few cowboys , and the pilots, there were only women ,wearing expensive, Wide Brim , High Top, Fedora mens hats, They've taken over the symbol masculine identity?

Talking about the rates of murder between men and women and forgetting to men who the murders are committed by is very disingenuous especially when talking about South Africa.

@FionaColquhoun-st6mn

4 ай бұрын

Totally….. one and the MANY omissions and oversights of this talk.

Sugar coated speech

I think the issue when talking about gender-based violence, from both feminists and non-feminists, is how we frame it. Globally, and in many countries, there are more male victims of violence, but who is committing it all and what are the circumstances? Men are more likely to get into violent altercations as a result of pressures to embrace toxic masculinity. Women are also more likely to experience domestic violence, again as a result of toxic masculinity. So yes, women are not super-victims, but gender politics and feminism are still relevant.

Several issues of logic and content here. 1) Many times more women die from domestic violence than men in the world. This is an indisputable statistical fact. Does this mean feminists go around calling all women -in general -victims? No. 2) One of the pillars of feminism is that women are overly sexualized and objectified. This lecture confuses a cultural issue or the influence of Hollywood for feminism. Uneducated Hollywood celebrities and behavioural trends in young women are obviously no source for what is modern feminism. Are there problems with modern feminism? Yes. But this talk did a bad job of addressing them.

@reemthememe

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree, she had some great points towards the end but a lot of confusion and generalisation.

Wow. She is in incredible shape! And j just dig that South African accent! 😍

@lentilsarentverygood

2 жыл бұрын

now why tf are you talking about how she looks when she's talking abt feminism?

@Sukunadagoat

Жыл бұрын

@@lentilsarentverygood I agree

Did this woman just call fourth wave feminism 'Satan'??? That's harsh

@teyoshariff5598

3 жыл бұрын

It's facts

@PricelessBinkey1337

3 жыл бұрын

Satan has nothing on 4th wave feminism

@sirro4362

2 жыл бұрын

I know truth hurts madam

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

Satan doesn't exist

Fast forward to today and women can't even define what a women is without getting canceled and we have feminism to thank for that!

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

So true. Honestly? LGBT community ruined everything.

Are u sure that women are shoen as victims though?

Meh, who cares, Feminism freed men from the chains we never knew we had. You go girl, make your own money, pay your own bills so that men can finally live longer and retire earlier. Phew! Feminism for the win!

@suvch5842

Жыл бұрын

@@Sukunadagoat Avoid women as longer as you can and you won't be attacked plus get away from Karen's as soon as you see them and keep a camera with you

@Luna-ux9by

8 күн бұрын

So you only care about how it affects men? Men always knew about the chains, yet they kept exploiting women because they had much more to gain. If all these historical men had to take care of their children would they really accomplish as much?

Nothing but toxicity, insecurity, lying, manipulation, deceit, 0 accountability, rotten to the core, moral compass lacking and guilt tripping

I'm so glad I have purple hair.

@_dreadthedemon_8801

3 жыл бұрын

Daddy issues I see

@celestegarcia923

3 жыл бұрын

I feel safe around other women

@Sukunadagoat

Жыл бұрын

@@celestegarcia923 so?

@benjipixel1438

Жыл бұрын

....Ok?

SA women have lost self-respect all in the name of feminism and to be honest men have no desire to show love to women who don't understand their own value. How can women expect us to love them when they fail to love themselves? Sleeping around is not liberation it's devaluing oneself.

I don’t mind women having rights to vote but why tell people that don’t like to work all day to start getting jobs if anything this is a benefit for men and boys😂

TEDx talks, you should be ashamed of yourself for furthering the victim-hood and weakened image of women with that asinine disclaimer. You've unwittingly made the presenter's point entirely. Things like that disclaimer, and the presumptive reasoning that goes with it, are the problem. You, Ted Talks, have become part of the problem.