So pumped to see someone, at a high level, ride one of these, so stoked for you and the upcoming season. I assume the next iteration will be electric shifting which I'm very much looking forward to. FULLY SEND IT!! Gearbox are imo the way we should all be going, gone are the days of smashing hundreds of pounds into rocks.

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words mate! And yeah its coming….. 👌 yeah exactly its opened my eyes after trying one proper nice

@MrSupermugen

6 ай бұрын

Why are you smashing your RD into stuff? do you really have that bad of bike placement?

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

@@MrSupermugen 😂

@MrSupermugen

6 ай бұрын

@@tommychype haha - wasnt directed at you, While im a fan of gearboxing, - we are still quite far from it being more commonplace. Blaming lack of bike skills on the RD is quite funny by rift OP haha

@rift123

5 ай бұрын

@@MrSupermugen I have never smashed my RD on anything bad enough to destroy it on a ride. I've just noticed over the years that the RD gets marks from hitting things. What I have done more than anything is bend my mech hanger, which will put all the gears off. Both combined makes me believe the RD is not as good, long term, as a gearbox.

Pinion gearboxes are definitely the way to go,low maintenance and less hassle! Nice looking bike !

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Completely agree mate! It’s always been on my radar just never had the chance to try one! And the new updates coming soon will change the market imo 💪🏼

Super tasty bike.......... what an intriguing time in MTB. So SICK another bike with no light has been given some. you cheeky trend setter you !!!!!!!! exciting times TC

Before you even revealed it I thought it's got to be pinion and belt drive🤘🤘 well done Tommy. Can't wait to see you shred it

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude! 🤟

Buzzing for you pal, look forward to seeing how you get on with it!

That's awesome change I'm looking forward to the reviews of it on trails and how it compares

The bike looks nice can't wait to see it flying and good luck with the new project mate take care 🤘🤘🙏

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Thankyou matey! 👋

Congratulations mate. Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿

Nice 1 Tommy C well looking forward 2 c how things go big up respect 👍👊💯

They make a lot of sense, weight of the system in the right place, if a bit heavier. No chain to snap and the belt will last a hell of a lot longer with no maintenance. Really glad to see a high end rider I follow using it now. Enjoy bud, looking forward to seeing how you get on but get that grip shift changed ASAP! Guessing they can't fit a standard SRAM or Shimano 9 or 12 speed shifter with their systems? If you can just do that as your first change for sure!

@andreaTRY2FLY

6 ай бұрын

Look at the shifter, it has two cables coming out of it. Seems like it's a no still.

bought a zerode back in april, couldn’t be happier with it. you’re gonna love it mate!

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Awesome bro! Im excited to put some time on it now

What a beast!!!!! Waiting to see you riding soon ❤

That is a lovely looking bike looking forward to see how it performs

Ya boi....awesome bike Tommy....look forward to see more...🤙

Totally for new innovation in the bike industry.

These are awesome. I have ridden one a few times. I wish that had distribution in the UK. The weight is all in the right place. So smooth and confident to ride.

Congrats G x 🎉

Stoked on this for both you and zerode bro, awesome! 🥝

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude! Excited for 2024

Such a clean looking bike. Excited to see what you think long-term. Cheers

Seriously cool bike! Looking forward to seeing it get sent 👍

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude appreciate that!

Sick mate! Looking forward to seeing what you think of it! Was tempted a few years back by these!

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude! So far so good! Will be plenty of info coming up! 👊

You won’t be disappointed, pinion have been around for years, very reliable, handling is so good, tracking on the back wheel is so much better due to unsprung mass, and with the upcoming shifters, can’t see any faults with it

I'm sure you'll ride it majestically

So good to see zerode getting out there, electronic shifting is going to be a good thing to get more out there too. Just hope the frames are getting updated in the near future.

@cunning-stunt

5 ай бұрын

Seat tube angle was all that stopped me from buying one.

Lovely wepon that tommy lad 👌👍

Good luck with the new whip !

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! 👊

Super excited for you and for us, yer regulars. I won’t lie, my one concern with the gearbox for your style of riding is the grip-shift. But that’s just me guessing it might be an issue on the longer ‘bigger’ prolines. Just thinking of you Trip de Gnar and so forth. So, your opinion matters to us: now we’ll find out, thanks 🤩

Yes man! I met kiwi here on holiday with his Zerode back in summer, I wanted to lick that bike it looked so tasty!

Bro the first scratch u get on that beauty will take weeks to get over 🤣✌️

I absolutely love this bike and would love to ride one

I've been looking at a Zerode. Not sure whether it's the 12 or the 9 speed for me. Looking forward to the upcoming vids!!

Cool to see other brands from different countries coming through (never heard of them before). The level is high in NZ so no doubt its sick. A lot of engineering time went into that box too...

Love the color! Reminds me to pull out my tv yellow les Paul

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude! And yes that is cool! 👌

gearbox ftw, super stoked abou this bike!!

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude me too 👋

Ooh pinion gearbox, I won't lie Tommy, I was less than impressed with last one I rode in 2018 definitely not for me, marmite! I bet the tech has moved on and it's better than the one I rode, hats of to you sir for thinking outside the box and trying something different 👊👍

100% after 3 years on a Deviate Guide it’s gearbox only for me. For absolute masterclass information on the subject there’s a channel called “Cycling about “ cheers MrHype

very interesting.

Been curious about these pinion drivetrains excited to see how you get on with it!

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

I will try my best to be as honest as possible! So far so good but only scratching the surface with it

That colour is lush Tom. I’ve ridden internally geared hubs and the Kindernay also , used Gates belt drive on a Shimano alfine hub. like you said, it’s the shifters, and the mechanisms that get improved over time. Congrats on the new bike. Great to see a different technology making the big screen 🤟

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude, yeah beautiful colour int it! 👌 yeah everything gearbox wise in the next couple of years will hopefully be changing the market it just makes sense after riding one. Keep your eyes peeled for the new shift system 🤯

Good choice!! Test rode one in NZ for a week - best suspension performance ive ever experienced!

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Epic dude! Yeah they are super active! 💪🏼

To be fair, that looks sick.

Cracking bike. How many spacers have you got under the stem? Bike a bit on the small size?

When I looked at the thumbnail I somehow instantly knew it's gonna be pinion. And who has the best pinion mtb? Zerode.

Bike looks awesome. What make spring have you got on the shock?

Cant wait for more content on this gearbox.... it's the future!.. Personally I'd have to get rid of the grip shift...had a really old mtb with it on and it's junk imo...

Looks sick! Gotta try something new!

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers man! 👋

Looks awesome, been reading a lot about the Pinion gearbox lately, I think it's the future, but keen to hear your feedback 👌🏻👍🏻

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Epic! Stay tuned loads of stuff to come

gripshift..... bike looks sick tho!

very, very nice!! i would love a system like that on an eeb.. Coming to the Netherlands are ya? Going to do some riding too?

Gripshift nah but glad the derailleur has good looks mint

To quote Monty python...."And now for something completely different". Ridden a couple of Gripshift bikes (borrowed ones) in the the past. ....Hmmm 🤔. I always found that I kept changing gears as I was gripping the shifter part of the grip. That's something I'm sure you adapt to...plus I was using old style stuff. The pinion gearbox keeps threatening to break through. In so many ways it makes sense. It'll be interesting to see how you get on 👍

Nice move Tom! I agree the rear mech is so outdated and needs to be scrapped. How are you getting on with the gearbox, much drag on it? I saw these bikes a few years ago but haven't seen much of them in the UK since.

like it. Never too sure about the belt drive on a mountain bike, grit and other debris getting in there. where's the name come from ? sounds like something from Flash Gordon

Been eyeing these up for a while. A small nit pick on the mullet geo, the seattube angles are a bit on the slack side 64.5??

Beautiful bike, no doubt. How heavy is that bike?

6:13 Instinctiv bikes have trigger shifter for pinion.

Got a few of these running around in Oz as well. Be interesting to see how the gearbox holds up to the abuse you'll give it, and also if you find the system a bit 'draggy' on climbs. The riders I know who've got them have had gearbox failures, and you can't do much with them yourself, hopefully they are getting better each year as I think they are the future (sorry sram transmission!). Need some bigger brands to get on board and fast track development. RIP rear derailleur!

nicolia bikes with gearbox looks class seen them on youtube years ago never understood why it hasnt caught on

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

I think mainly the gripshift matey but thats soon changing

Looks great..the tech should be sound..but a grip shift..??.come on now..we all move around on a bike especially the contact points..surely a standard shifter system would be better? But looking forward to your opinion 😈😈💪💪

I don't have anything against belt drive, but I wish I could have this with a oval. My need can't handle round chainrings so well, I'm in agony if I ride with round chain rings so round drive ring will be agony too. Also the play in the engagement is a concern. I don't know if the system you tried has that issue. About 5 or 6 years ago I asked Gates Carbon Drive if they had any plans for an oval drive ring, they told me it's feasible, but they don't have any plans for it in the near feature.

I've been ranting on about gearboxes on MTB since the 90's ,be good to see what you think of it

Cool ive been running a pinnon c12 gearbox for 5years now don't want to go back ,i will say tho i would swap the gear cables around so the changing feels much better😁

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Awesome dude im excited to properly get used to it! And epic thats good to know 👌

@simonpearce5585

6 ай бұрын

@@tommychype yer dude whip looks fresh to buy the way,sames to change gear better with cable swapped arpund at the shifter👌

Firstly, congratulations. I like the design and think it looks brilliant. Although, an extra 2kg for the gearbox on an analog bike is a bit too much in my pinion... Works tremendously on an ebike.

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers mate! Youd be surprised on the weight its actually lighter than a few of my previous bikes! You can save that extra weight in other places! Yeah im excited to try the ebike system 👀👊👊

@c0nsci0usness

6 ай бұрын

I see what you did there

@dirtsurfernz

6 ай бұрын

The weight is also in the place you want it (plus no weight of cassette n derailleur hanging out back there)

@Dannyjones1

6 ай бұрын

@@dirtsurfernz so is an ebike motor, but there's still people that slate them.

Yeeeeee man !!!

So what’s the gearing the same as? 10/50 with what sort of similar chainring? Just interested to know how high and low ratio the gears are?

im looking at zerode once the electric gearchange becomes available

get one on order for me

Very interested my only hang up is the drag issue. With inn the gear box I can see it taking off with e-bikes because it Eliminates that problem with drag. IDK mybe super light titanium internal gears working would Solve. But the price would probably keep people away 🤔

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Yeah i heard the same dude but being totally honest the drag isn’t noticeable imo, if you think most drivetrains when new are definitely less drag but as a drivetrain degrades especially in winter when it gets full of shit it will most definitely drag more than a gearbox system. 🤟

Masaate 😮 smashing it dude, fairplay! Bike is sexy AF

Yesssss Tommy, stoked to see how you get on, the only thing that put me off was the 90's gripshift, other than that I tried one at a event and they are pukka riders, I hope they do go electric shift, I'd def b sold then 👍

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Keep an eye out for January mate your dreams may just come true 😁😁😁

When racing and you want a gear change will having to come off the power lose you seconds?

When will Pinion get more efficient

Your be in Morzine on your bike holiday you crash the bars spin and pulls the gear cable and then its game over, back to your mech bike until you get a new cable from NZ, that is a true story.

@tommychype

5 ай бұрын

If i was in morzine on holiday mate i would have spares with me 👍

Wow congratulations Tommy It’s so hard to make big decisions on a new bike even though I love the 84 it was an absolute weapon but it’s always good to try new things and I respect zeroed for what they are doing in MTB I have one problem don’t know how strong the belt is but if that gets snagged on a branch as your going down the trail that could be a long walk to the car And the grip shift I thought we got rid of them 50 years ago😂😂

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Cheers dude! Definitely a hard decision but one I’m proud of! The belt is far stronger than a chain as there is no where near as much tension going through it and regarding the grip shift keep an eye out for something new soon 👀

@ashleytombs

6 ай бұрын

@@tommychype yeah true from what I have seen these belts are pretty strong on a more scary note Did you put adrenaline on your breakfast instead of milk to hit the road gap fair play but your crazy 😂😂

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

@@ashleytombs haha im not sure mate! Was probably a silly thing to do on a brand new bike 😂

@ashleytombs

6 ай бұрын

@@tommychype yeah Not the smallest thing but it shows the capability of it

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

@@ashleytombs 😂😂

Intrested how you get on with that Tommy, durability, problems etc

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Excited to try it out properly 🤟🤟

the front triangle of the zerode kinda looks like a santa cruz nomad v3

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Yeah its not too dissimilar, the geo is spot on 💪🏼

@Simon__T

6 ай бұрын

@@tommychype I love my nomad V3 so it cant be bad

I don't understand why people still use sram etc , I love my pinion & next year the electric shifting version cones out allowing gear changes under torque .

My mate guessed this from the suspension days ago 😂

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

😂😂 there was one or 2 correct guesses, bike nerds 😂

@grizzlymunrodiaries he's been riding one bagging the Munros/mountains of Scotland

At last, someone prepared to actually try something innovative and not just punt out what their frame and shock sponsor are releasing for next season. And if anyone is going to give this a real-world test it’s you shag. ‘Ave it 👊

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

My man!! Love this, appreciate the support dude alot of people are blinkered as was i until i tried one, keep an eye out for some gnarliness 😂

Great looking bike. But don't like the colour. Love new tech in bikes. But grip shift reminds me of the 90s and never liked it then.

Tommy C 1.9

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

😂

Gearboxes might technically be a better solution but I’m afraid the two big S’s have invested so much in their derailleur lineups I don’t expect them to go to a gearbox system anytime soon.

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Yeah you’re completely right! But…. Whats being released soon will hopefully make people realised that derailleurs are an absolutely terrible design!

Are you still riding the dh coal or not?

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

No mate! This is a full signed deal so for the next period of time i will be only riding for zerode, i will be riding a dh bike next year tho 👊

@olkib

6 ай бұрын

@@tommychype excited to see it 🤘

Only problem is i think the cost to put it also on cheaper bikes

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Yeah i see what you mean but i think there are cheaper gearbox options

Greggs sausage roll

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Always 💪🏼

SRAM Transmission is amazing until the topic of unsprung weight comes up... The rear ends of gearbox bikes just feeeeel so smooth cause of their light weight. Really happy to finally see someone on Zerode. Pinion does take some getting used to but eh - upsides would outweigh that for me.

Personally I'm not a fan of the bike it almost looks like a santa cruz copy!! and going back to a gripshift🤔 that gearbox set up must be heavier than traditional cassette??? Should of stuck with the Coal bikes 👌

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

😂 thats what opinions are for pal! Nice to try something new, hopefully ill change your mind when you see it shift 👍

When’s Benez getting one 😂

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Ben you listening 😂😂

Nerer heard of her

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Well now you have bro 👊💪🏼

Intrigued to how it gets on. This ,i think is the last big change for bikes. Rear mechs are a wank design !

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Yeah so far so good! Mechs are a money grabbing scheme unfortunately

I'm not sure how I feel watching your vids with no coal 😕

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that buddy! Moving away from coal was hard for me too but this move made sense to move into 2024

I'm not convinced. First how much are they? Also, they will go wrong due to wear and tear, like a normal drive chain. When that happens normally riders have a box full of spares to fix it quickly, that's not going to be possible with a system like this. I can see the benefits, like the reduction of unsprung mass and centralising the weight, but a lot would depend on how the rider experience is, such as the speed of pick-up and efficiency. I want to like them but not sold on them. I'm not sure why some people are so down on regular transmission, the maintenance isn't that big a deal, ok, a mech is vulnerable, but at least you can see it and inspect the system instantly. I mean, do you have to strip this down every 100 hours to inspect the internals?

@elslanedog1264

6 ай бұрын

Why you acting like google don’t exist wall-of-text guy? In under three minutes I learned that they require an oil change every 10,000km. That’s it.

I actually thought you'd been sponsered by an electric, gearbox driven high spec sausage roll. Unbelievable

gearboxes are the right transmission for a mtb, unlike srams"TrANsmIssIOn"

happy days tommy

@tommychype

6 ай бұрын

👊👊