Flat vs. Clipless Pedals | The Truth, The Lies & The Slander

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Flat or clipless pedals? By far, one of the most controversial topics in the mountain bike world today. With so many options available, it seems as if every brand offers pedals in multiple shapes, sizes, and colors. Because your feet are the main point of contact when riding, it is crucial that you are comfortable and confident with your pedal set up. The wrong pedal choice can lead to anger, frustration, irritable bowel syndrome, diabetes and even worse, crashes. In this video, we walk you through the various pedal options to help you decide which makes the most sense for your skill level and riding style. Check it out!
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  • @WorldwideCyclery
    @WorldwideCyclery6 жыл бұрын

    Flats or clipless pedals - Which do you all prefer?

  • @th_js

    @th_js

    6 жыл бұрын

    Both!

  • @jackadler5941

    @jackadler5941

    6 жыл бұрын

    Started on Flats then quickly went to SPD after many shin hits. Love them. This was a great vid as. Finally know why the name “Clipless”.

  • @tmayberry7559

    @tmayberry7559

    6 жыл бұрын

    I use the old clips and strap and flat pedals ( only on one bike) I find that the wider platform of flat pedals allow you to apply more power to the pedal I find that with clips and straps it allows you to spin better what you learn using flat pedals can be transferred to using clips and straps or in today's terms clipless pedals because you learn when to apply power

  • @peterlang5047

    @peterlang5047

    6 жыл бұрын

    Clipless is great for XC, not so much fo trials. I mostly ride trials, so I use flats.

  • @tougenomikado

    @tougenomikado

    6 жыл бұрын

    i ride flats, i always think about clips (especially when climbing) but then i remember all the times being on flats saved me... like 2 days ago when i hit some wet roots while cornering, and put a foot down and rode out.... i probably would have been down if clipped in.

  • @avalokiteshvaravalon
    @avalokiteshvaravalon4 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone is able to explain the clip'less' terminology, THANKS! Meaning I can finally sleep again after all these worrisome years.

  • @jalalshahini

    @jalalshahini

    3 жыл бұрын

    literally every cycling channel has explained it several times.

  • @grimp53

    @grimp53

    3 жыл бұрын

    The French terminology (from where the pedals originate, Look make sky bindings) is automatic pedals and the Germans use click pedals. Clipless is mainly English usage.

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you started riding with toe clips like I did...! 😁 In fact, I hated regular toe clips so much, I started using road shoes with those plastic slotted cleats and double toe straps to completely lock me in. I couldn’t get out of my pedals to save my life; but it made me a good bike handler! I was happy when SPDs came along though. P.S., I know you’re being cheeky. I just had to be cheeky back. 😉

  • @chumpmtb2554
    @chumpmtb25546 жыл бұрын

    I've done both for significant amount of time. Rode clips for 10 years, then flats for 4. Advantages clips: I enjoyed the rear wheel control and connection to the bike, plus pedaling power up hill. Disadvantages: Always nervous through rock gardens/tight rocky turns, and they can really put you into bad habbits over time, especially with body position, forgetting to push your weight through the bottom bracket, and incorrect form during bunny hops. Advantages Flats: Confidence! They teach you better body position, weight transfer, heel drop, etc. I push my heels through the bottom bracket and just rail through rock gardens! With sticky 5/10's and long spikes on the pedals, I've never bounced my foot off on rough stuff. Way better cornering, in my opinion, and I feel more confident on steep rocky transitions. Disadvantages: It takes more effort and technique to move the rear wheel around, or hop it up over logs/rocks. Scandi flicks, and that sort of thing. Bear trapping! You will end up with punctures in your shins and calves. Just get used to it ;) Overall, I haven't gone back to clips. Weighing all the pros and cons, I determined using clips just gave me too much extra to think about and even though they might be small things like, remembering to bring your shoes, trying to get your feet clipped while dropping in, having to make sure you can get your foot out if you don't have enough momentum to get up a transition, etc.. I just found all of those thoughts added up to a less enjoyable experience overall.. But thats just one guy's opinion, AND I'm not out there trying to shave seconds in enduro races. It really does come down to personal preference, but with that said; I recommend trying both for significant periods of time on varying terrain before deciding. Make sure to get used to both, and learn the nuances of each. After all, you don't want to rush in to a decision about something that could alter your life forever! Just kidding, go have fun ;)

  • @Scolecite

    @Scolecite

    5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent points, great write up. I just switched to flats last week after 20 years clipless, and I have 0 confidence. So you rode clipless for 10 years and have too much extra to think about? I'm confused, its second nature for me to unclip no matter how bad the situation is.

  • @chumpmtb2554

    @chumpmtb2554

    5 жыл бұрын

    Scolecite: I never had a problem getting unclipped either. Mainly, for me, I started spending a lot more time riding Sedona which has zero flow for the most part. A lot of very steep rocky transitions where you drop down, G-out, then immediately have to get up a near verticle rocky wall. Just a lot of situations where you might have to bail out in a hurry or tip over backward. I personally found it easier to dab if needed, session sections, or not have the stress of getting my feet in place when dropping into a gnarly rock garden. That's what I meant about having less to think about. I always assumed I would switch back to clipless on big climbing days with lots of flowy DH, but once I got used to flats, I just never had the urge to go back. I hope that explains it a bit :)

  • @DenizMerdano

    @DenizMerdano

    5 жыл бұрын

    This... well put overall experience.. Once you learn how to ride and control your mountain bike properly, you will be able to decide when riding clipped in or on flats would be a benefit too. You can go back and forth and with proper bike handling technique, you wont notice any difference between pedals. Other less mentioned part of being clipped in is it does make your bike feel lighter. When you can manipulate the rear end of the bike(heavy end) easier, the bike feels lighter over all and can make a difference in overall experience. Not all clips are created equal either.. even within the same brand, there are huge differences between pedal and shoe interfaces. It is hard to try all combinations, but helps a ton if you can..

  • @TrinityRSV

    @TrinityRSV

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DenizMerdano Better information than the video. Nicely done. The video didn't give me anything after 7 min. ????

  • @headoverbars8750

    @headoverbars8750

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well said!

  • @cuthbertjellyhead
    @cuthbertjellyhead4 жыл бұрын

    I tried lipless for a while, they never felt great. Had a big crash with them and remained clipped in during the crash which tore my rotator cuff! I'm happy on flats

  • @roccopietrofesa7914
    @roccopietrofesa79146 жыл бұрын

    I ride clips on my left foot and flats on my right foot. I wear 4 extra socks on my left foot to compensate for the weight difference.

  • @justincase7109

    @justincase7109

    5 жыл бұрын

    oneup alloy pedals 355grams shimano xtr M9120 405 grams plus cleats

  • @corentinoger

    @corentinoger

    3 жыл бұрын

    I only shave the left leg, so I only get half the aero advantage, but it's saves 50% shaving time!

  • @superandy89

    @superandy89

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best KZread comment I’ve seen lately

  • @brandonrobishaw7606

    @brandonrobishaw7606

    Жыл бұрын

    I suppose you also only turn Left as well 🙂

  • @oneopinion6806
    @oneopinion68064 жыл бұрын

    I've never been serious enough in any of the formats of biking to take the jump to clipless, but a funny story I tell about a buddy of mine deals with the challenges of learning clipless on trails. As a teen we were on a trail that followed a river about 20 feet up from the water with relatively steep banks. My buddy had just gotten clipless about a week prior and was still getting used to transitioning on and off. We hit a technical/sandy part of the trail and another buddy in front of him drastically slowed down. I watched him come to a standstill, his feet twitch a few times as he tried to pop free and then watched as he tumbled sideways down the embankment and into the water. In the time it took my brain to decide that he hadn't popped up yet and this was about to be a major problem he burst through the surface. We were dumb teens and laughed it off, but adult me shudders about it now. So yeah, kids, if you're going to try clipless get comfy on them before you hit technical trails!

  • @hughdunbar9823

    @hughdunbar9823

    4 жыл бұрын

    One Opinion you’re right. Luckily someone told me to try them first on grass, as pretty much for sure you are going to eat shit the first time you try to get out. After all these years now it is effortless and I don’t even think about it. It’s automatic.

  • @petermorgan3702

    @petermorgan3702

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget, bikes float. But yes clips are a liability anyways,

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    Before clipless pedals existed, I used road shoes with the slotted plastic cleats and double toe straps that completely locked me in. To get out of my pedals, I had to physically reach down and swipe the straps open. It forced me to learn not to get in situations like you describe and it made me a damn good bike handler. I could track stand forever.

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hughdunbar9823 I have gone over the bars a few times during my MTB career and it’s so second nature that I’m clicked out almost right away before I even start to go over.

  • @markkligerman6861
    @markkligerman68615 жыл бұрын

    Oh about a week ago I was riding clipless and stalled out on an uphill rooty area and had a low speed fall over. Could not get out of my Egg Beaters. My right calf took a painfull blow with a root and my right hip was torqued. The worry I have with the clipless is hip injuries. It still hurts and I fear getting a hip injury in the future. Been riding for 6 years. Thinking about going to flats.

  • @EamonnSeoigh
    @EamonnSeoigh4 жыл бұрын

    SPDs. I learned with flats, evolved to toe clips, then SPDs came along and never looked back.

  • @MichaelKnopf_florida
    @MichaelKnopf_florida4 жыл бұрын

    I recently started triathlon training and got a road (time trial) bike that came with Shimano clipless peddles. I had never used them but went with it as it seemed like everyone in Triathlon uses them. I’ve put about 500 miles on my bike and have crashed/fallen 3 times now because I needed to come to a quick stop to avoid traffic but couldn’t get uncliped in time and ended up on the ground (in the road, in traffic, NOT A GOOD situation). I have decided to go back to flats purely from a safety perspective. It’s just not worth the risk, I need to be able to put my foot down, or even ditch the bike altogether, without having to wrestle with twisting my feet to get free of the pedal.

  • @stevenklein3985
    @stevenklein39856 жыл бұрын

    I rode flats when I first got my bike and then progressed into using clips because I realized the benefits of using clips in a race environment and have loved them ever since

  • @captaincoyote1792
    @captaincoyote17924 жыл бұрын

    You, my young friend, just did an amazing job touting the pros and cons of both, without any subliminal judgement! I’m 65.....riding since I was 6? 7? In my junior high years, I bought my first quality bicycle with the “ten speed craze” that happened in the late 60s to early 70s. So my early riding was long distance, road riding....and I used those toe-clip, cage-strap devices. Never went clipless.....even with higher quality road bikes I bought in later years....though recently, I have given them some serious thought (for road trips). However, most of my riding now is long distance off-road, backcountry bikepacking.....to access remote fly fishing spots through New England north country. I like for my shoes to do double-duty walking and riding and campshoe....without the stiff “click, click” of clipless. Still......maybe? This old retired, law-dawg....maybe I can learn a new trick? Again, well done.....Bravo-Zulu on a great presentation. Keep on riding......second star to the right......!

  • @grimp53

    @grimp53

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've also learned riding a road-cycle at the times of toe-clips and leather straps. It was that or rubber blocks. Those were a real pain in the neck when tightened. Fortunately there were the 'automatic' ones with a roller that opened with the flick of the thumb, but still. When the first clip-ins appeared, they were a revelation and a revolution. Never LOOKed back, so to say

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are plenty of hikeable clipless shoes to be had. You can have the clipless experience with shoes that don’t impede walking or hiking at all. You can even get full on sneakers that work with clipless pedals now. No sounding like a goat or horse when you walk.

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grimp53 I used double leather straps with road shoes and the plastic slotted cleat that locked me in completely. It forced me to become a really good bike handler and kept me from getting lazy and hiking. I was really glad when SPDs came out though. Trying to walk on rocky trails with road shoes and plastic cleats wasn’t fun during those times that I had no choice.

  • @gonzalolizarraga9919
    @gonzalolizarraga99196 жыл бұрын

    I’ve tryed clipless pedals for a couple of months, it felt weird, always thinking about clipping in and out, so went back to flats. Bought a nice pair of five tens and i felt so much better. (Exactly what you said!!)

  • @panterita1177
    @panterita11776 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I hear people arguing about what’s “better”, flat or clipless all the time. I ride flats and I thought I would give clipless a try, I am not giving up but I really did not think I was missing out like some of my friends told me. I like the feeling of freedom of movement on my bike, I can put my foot down if I need to, and I don’t have to even think about it. With the clipless I felt I was overthinking everything and had to “plan ahead “ and it was taking from the enjoyment. I know, I know, it would probably go away if I stuck with it, but like you said in the video and many don’t get, you have to do what works for you and just enjoy the ride! I took mountain biking later in life, I’m 41 and have been riding for 2 1/2 years now and staying in one piece is key for me Lol. (I was a roadie for the longest time and then long distance runner, but I find MTB to be so much more fun!)

  • @dandawson8128
    @dandawson81284 жыл бұрын

    Good sound advice. Nice little history in the beginning too, I'm old enough to have used toe clips back in the 80's and have seen all the evolution pedals. No one could imagined all these enhancements 30 yrs ago.

  • @Micinno
    @Micinno3 жыл бұрын

    I was going back and forth with this topic. In the end, and after spending almost $300 on clip in pedals and shoes, im back to the flats. Its more comfortable and more enjoyable. Thanks for the vid. U got a like and a sub from me my friend. ✌🏾

  • @343guiltyspark-6
    @343guiltyspark-65 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t know that this was so important,thanks KZread recommended

  • @gabrieljohannson6777
    @gabrieljohannson67772 жыл бұрын

    Best video on this topic I've seen on KZread & there is a literal tsunami of videos. Hats off brah. Hats off! 🇦🇺.

  • @madrx2
    @madrx25 жыл бұрын

    I grew up in my teens riding flats, when I rediscovered mountain biking in my early 30's (now 34) I have ridden clipless. I love the pedal feel and ability to bunny hop the bike over obstacles as you can pull up with your legs rather than relying on all out technique. Great channel guys, and another great vid.

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stoked to hear you are back out there and thanks for watching!

  • @kingtaj
    @kingtaj4 жыл бұрын

    Great attitude, great information. Just well f'in done on this video. Cheers

  • @th_js
    @th_js6 жыл бұрын

    YES A NEW VIDEO ❗❗ From one of my favourite channels :)

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB6 жыл бұрын

    Flats 4 life! (Coming down this Tuesday to have you guys build up my front wheel for me and look forward to seeing your shop!)

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice! See you then :)

  • @ALL4HIMWHOSAVEDME
    @ALL4HIMWHOSAVEDME4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Well explained. Thank you

  • @neadof4222
    @neadof42225 жыл бұрын

    I never used clip pedals, then I can not talk, I want to try them in the future, I use flat pedals Race Face Chester in orange color to match with my bike details, the pedals are just amazing, completely control of my bike, it give a lot more confidence and the grip between my shoes and the pedals are just awesome. I just love them. Cool video!

  • @axiomaddict
    @axiomaddict4 жыл бұрын

    Appreciated the history/contex and your non-judgemental comments. Big help. Thanks

  • @kpandabear9230
    @kpandabear92306 жыл бұрын

    I started out on flats but got tired of all the shinners and slipping off all the time so I got clipless pedals and love how connected I am to the bike and how I can put the back wheel wherever I need to.

  • @markstang1965able
    @markstang1965able2 жыл бұрын

    Ya know what, I am 60 and know nothing starting on road biking. I really really like your delivery. Thank you very much! I must say clipping in seems scary, perhaps I will evolve but you made me feel ok for now.

  • @Gabesafish
    @Gabesafish4 жыл бұрын

    “Riding bikes is about being comfortable and enjoying yourself” Also, riding bikes is about sitting in painfully awkward positions for long periods of time on “saddles” made from space age polymer ultralight granite.

  • @AWriterWandering

    @AWriterWandering

    3 жыл бұрын

    The latter is the sports side of things, which in some parts of the word (North America especially) they seem confuse as being the whole point of biking when it really isn’t. Personally I ride a bike to exercise and get around. I don’t really care if I’m the fastest.

  • @darraghmcgrath2714

    @darraghmcgrath2714

    3 жыл бұрын

    What a Fred

  • @lixmos
    @lixmos4 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for the video. I always felt the pressure to learn how to ride clip ins, cause i thought "that's what the pros do" but like you said, I feel sketchy on them, my confident level is low, basically the learning curve make me nervous on the trail. Now back on flat, I am having so much fun and confident while riding. I am gonna stick with flat and never look back haha

  • @davidevans1723
    @davidevans17234 жыл бұрын

    So charismatic... Could listen all day

  • @tomypinazar8727
    @tomypinazar87274 жыл бұрын

    Bro I have been riding mths my whole life and I finally learnt why it’s called clip less pedals so thank you

  • @borismartin
    @borismartin5 жыл бұрын

    Started out mtb-ing with flat pedals. Switching to clipless pedals made bigger improvement on my riding than any other accessory or gear.

  • @Troumbadour
    @Troumbadour6 жыл бұрын

    I’ve just recently tried riding clipped in, and while I can only do so on trails that aren’t too crazy, I think it’s a ton of fun, and I can’t wait to get better! That being said, as a fairly amateur rider, there’s a time and place for them. If I’m doing a more advanced ride, I’ll go with what I know best and ride my flats.

  • @PaulWisner-mw8pl
    @PaulWisner-mw8pl Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, very helpful in making a decision today, going flat pedal

  • @offroadrepairman
    @offroadrepairman6 жыл бұрын

    I switched to spd from flats this winter. Love to additional control and having security during ruff knar section of trail. With that said, when I step out it’s difficult to find pedal and clip in. I’ve moved cleats around etc, it’s only problem during slow technical trails. Would love it if you could have a spd, cb, etc comparison video

  • @MaddBaggins
    @MaddBaggins4 жыл бұрын

    Love my VP-001 and Vans hi-tops combo. I feel like they really stick together well.

  • @claytonhorvat7598
    @claytonhorvat75985 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Jeff, you're cool man. Love your channel. I'm a huge tool nowadays, I have all this cool gear, but I suck. I guess I always knew I sucked (even from my father when we rode together as a child, I could never keep up) so I just replaced it with cool gear. Meh, what can you do? Really like your channel, I applied at like five bicycle shops, and none of them got back to me. You're doing great, I think you found your calling.

  • @douchebagowicz8644
    @douchebagowicz86445 жыл бұрын

    Very well thought and balanced. Thx for posting

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback!

  • @alpineflow8599
    @alpineflow85996 жыл бұрын

    I started out mountain biking on a pair of Shimano SPDs, and hated it. I was constantly falling over and was hesitant to try more difficult trails because I was afraid I wouldn't be able to unclip in time. So I went out and bought a good pair of flat pedals and some Five Ten shoes. I rode with them for the last 4 years, and my riding progressed every year more and more. This year I started to feel like not being connected to the bike was holding me back from further progression for downhill and enduro riding, so I decided to give clippless another try. I bought some Nuke Proof Horizon CL pedals and some Five Ten Kestrel SPD shoes, and my riding has sky rocketed since. I love the feeling of the connectivity to the bike, and now that I am no longer a newbie at mountain biking, I know what my bike and my skills are capable of and no longer hesitate. I would recommend that all new riders learn for at least a few years on flats, and then maybe try clippless once they are more advanced riders.

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear stories like this! Glad everything worked out for you in the long run. It's not a bad idea for people to start off with platforms then try clipless down the road but at the end of the day, it's still personal preference.

  • @SiMPLYHaZZaRD
    @SiMPLYHaZZaRD5 жыл бұрын

    I ride clips on my trail bike, but I hit up the dirt jumps/manual practice on flat pedals to learn new skills and to keep myself honest with my technique.

  • @Cybervogi
    @Cybervogi5 жыл бұрын

    I don't care which one - I want that bike in the background!!

  • @Aiden56l0
    @Aiden56l04 жыл бұрын

    I ordered new RF Chester pedals a couple days ago and they arrive tomorrow (Wednesday)! I’m excited to put them on because my current pedals are worn out quite a bit, especially for them being metal (Assuming aluminum).

  • @scorp3x
    @scorp3x3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining so good about the term clipless :D

  • @CharlesBurchill
    @CharlesBurchill4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video - I rode on flats as a kid and then moved to toe clips in my teens (include MTB) - my preference is to have clips (or clipless) for the control. In the last few years I found I do a lot of walking with the kind of riding I do and much prefer to have proper walking/hiking shoes.

  • @Sisu2280
    @Sisu22805 жыл бұрын

    I'll sum up the video (with a quote from the video!) and the entire ongoing argument in general... "it's a totally personal preference".

  • @robfiore1503
    @robfiore15033 жыл бұрын

    Very good video! I ride both. Still not sure which I like better.

  • @micklaycock71
    @micklaycock712 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, that cleared things up for me. Although it did leave me feeling a bit old.

  • @rocco.mbb.zoccoli
    @rocco.mbb.zoccoli6 жыл бұрын

    When I was introduced to MTB’ing I was told I needed clipless.. I’ve since stuck with it and am one of my only in my group that rides clipped.. Whenever introducing people to riding I suggest flats since people seem to be more comfortable being able to drop a foot easily

  • @blanefischer5080
    @blanefischer50806 жыл бұрын

    Everyone makes the Sam Hill reference, but remember Connor Fearon has been on flats for years also.

  • @geoffpoole483
    @geoffpoole4834 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the upload. I tried clipless but fell off a few times. Entertaining for onlookers but embarrassing and painful for me. There's a long off-road trail near my home and it'll be worth trying clipless pedals in an environment with no road traffic.

  • @NDemanuele1
    @NDemanuele13 жыл бұрын

    Awesome explanation of "clipless" in the beginning. I could never get used to Clipless, so Flats Fo' Life!!

  • @carledselsonza9320
    @carledselsonza93206 жыл бұрын

    Notifs squad. Hihi 76th viewer. Thanks for the videos as always sir.. God Bless!

  • @ln663
    @ln6636 жыл бұрын

    Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I myself ride flats almost everytime and only switch to clipless when joining races. IMO, this should hold back anyone from riding. Just ride what you prefer and where you're comfotable with ;)

  • @Austiwoo
    @Austiwoo3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for actually answering my question I am still staying on flat clip in just feels so weird and j always take my foot off the pedals

  • @philippwilshaus1092
    @philippwilshaus10926 жыл бұрын

    I switch to Clicks and i love it, i rode them without any pins too make the Spring in the Crankbrother softer and to learn it quicker. And now i screwed Pins in and to be honest, its one of the best feelings ever

  • @robertphillips4155
    @robertphillips41554 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your video, good points. I have use both. Clipless on my traditional MTB and have always been able to yank my foot out in an emergency. Just got an eBike and am thinking that with the added weight I might prefer flats . . . not sure yet.

  • @kris.monroe
    @kris.monroe4 жыл бұрын

    Crankbrother Mallets have been a game-changer! Best of both worlds on my Cutthroat. I do have flat pedals on my dedicated MTB though and clipless on the road bike.

  • @trixr4kidsdawg
    @trixr4kidsdawg5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mr. Cyclery

  • @mojazzz284
    @mojazzz2843 жыл бұрын

    One of the most honest review of flat vs clipless

  • @gogovitch66
    @gogovitch666 жыл бұрын

    Exclamation point! 😉😁👍 ..like perfect vid to this topic 🙌

  • @davidsuzukiispolpot
    @davidsuzukiispolpot5 жыл бұрын

    Some important points you did not talk about: while the Shimano SPDs give you a far less float while you are clipped in, the crank Brothers egg beaters require much greater rotation to completely release which is significant during an emergency release when you are falling and not yet experienced on clipless.... Also, for mountain biking you can get the multi-release cleats where a heal lift releases the foot. That doesn't exist for crank Brothers. Finally, Shimano SPDs have a spring tension adjustment. I recommend unsure beginners use the multi-release cleats and set release tension to minimum and then increase release tension as you get accustomed. That way, you will likely get released from your pedals in many falls even if you forget to twist your feet on the way down. You also get less benefits as there will be many inadvertent releases while you ride, but you can increase the tension as you get used to it.

  • @felipeandrespages9400
    @felipeandrespages94003 жыл бұрын

    Helpful, thanks.

  • @goahead3995
    @goahead3995 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love my XTR M9100 Clipless Pedals on my Epic. Shimano makes optional SM-SH56 SPD Multi Release that you can detach in any directions for safety. Very easy to bail!

  • @johng7390
    @johng73906 жыл бұрын

    I use both - they each have benefits depending on the ride and bike - Clipless on my Gravel Bike, flats on my touring bike.

  • @russellpoyner9362
    @russellpoyner93625 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU! I have tried searching for why they are called clipless, and what the clips are. All I could ever find was what a clipless is, but nothing for what a clip actually was. Now I finally know, so again thank you. I use flat pedals. I have not tried clipless because that learning curve you mentioned has me concerned lol. I am not ready to spend that much on everything for clipless and find out I can't learn it good enough.

  • @kdubovenko

    @kdubovenko

    5 жыл бұрын

    Literally the first google search result for "what are clipless pedals" tells you where the name comes from

  • @michaelfireoved3375
    @michaelfireoved33756 жыл бұрын

    Had a big otb on practice day today for a downhill race tomorrow. Happy I was riding flats. Broke my thumb though so no racing tomorrow

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bummer, heal up!

  • @Z1E1K1E
    @Z1E1K1E6 жыл бұрын

    Running clipless crankbrothers mallet E to combat having my feet ejected on rocky sections when using flats. I always felt I needed 2 hard charge a rocky section with flats, relying on my momentum to get thru the rocks b4 my feet would be ejected from my pedals. I switched a few years ago and now I feel as tho I can take my time and really 4x4 a rocky section with no issues... I'll always love my flats but I'm loving the connection to my bike cheated in...

  • @onehelewaguy
    @onehelewaguy6 жыл бұрын

    Running an old set of Shimano 424 on my new bike. Switched from the stock flats after a few too many in the shin. The surrounding platform lets me get a base when I don’t want to be clipped in on certain terrain. I might like flat with the right shoes, but the clip less just feel better.

  • @insrtclevrnamehere
    @insrtclevrnamehere4 жыл бұрын

    good, informative, unbiased 👍

  • @eishi.kajita
    @eishi.kajita6 жыл бұрын

    Like many, I rode BMX on flats back in the day (Bob Haro, Toby Henderson era) and didn’t get into MTB until later in life. I bought my first Kona about 25 years ago with clip pedals and later switched to clipless, which I’ve been riding ever since...until last year. I decided to try out some flats wearing 5-10’s and, after some adjustment to riding technique, fell in love with. Riding flats just make riding more enjoyable for me. I may still swap them out for clipless from time to time just to change things up, but I’m happy riding flats and that’s all that matters.

  • @Scolecite

    @Scolecite

    5 жыл бұрын

    In the exact same boat. I could bunny hop a garbage can on my Dyno Detour, now after 20 years of riding clips and switching to flats last week I'm petrified. I'm not giving up, but I AM wearing shin guards :)

  • @maddingo
    @maddingo5 жыл бұрын

    good video... I just got a pair of 510 freeriders (my wife bought them for me as a gift) .. love them, I rode clipless pedals years and years ago for about 1~yr.. then I just realized I hated them, at the time the pedal / shoe options where not as good as today 98~ ish.. had some bmx platform pedals on my old stump jumper pro.. so much happier.. I have never really felt the desire to switch back to clip-less ever.. does stink if you wang your shin with the flat pedal.. but so nice to feel like I could jump off this bike / put a foot down if I need to any time.

  • @Tenspeed1
    @Tenspeed16 жыл бұрын

    Switched to flats for a while to review basic skills. Gonna go back to clips soon. The idea of going through a rock garden on flats scares the crap out of me.

  • @Slipperygecko390

    @Slipperygecko390

    6 жыл бұрын

    Smart idea going to flats for your skills. I suggest you stick to it until you feel aggressive on flats. If you're getting bucked off on flats in rough shit then you need to slow down and work on riding smooth + change your suspension so you are in control. Otherwise one day you're gonna get bucked on your clips and end up with a face full of rock. Plus that smoothness/control on flats will translate to speed on clips in the long run. keep at it! kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXWbkrKBd6u1es4.html

  • @Scolecite

    @Scolecite

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got used to the clips holding my bike so I could just float over rough stuff. Now first week on flats in 20 years, I have to keep my weight on the pedals a lot more to keep the bike tame in rock gardens.

  • @th_js
    @th_js6 жыл бұрын

    1 vote for the CB vs Shimano video!

  • @jaredcaya6258
    @jaredcaya62584 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this!

  • @johandaniels4214
    @johandaniels42146 жыл бұрын

    Always used flats. Is google monitoring my spending? I just bought some cleats today to test if clipless is for me and this video was recommended. Food for thought people.

  • @rolux4853

    @rolux4853

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you bought them online, of course google knows. That’s why you have to accept all these cookies. To get personalized ads etc.

  • @shamoy1000
    @shamoy10004 жыл бұрын

    Good video info 👍.

  • @allan2098
    @allan20984 жыл бұрын

    I have ridden clipless for years on road bikes and then got the MTB bug. I'm a heavy rider and tough on kit. I used to smash through rock gardens and loved a good bit of air. Found myself not being able to unclip at times I really needed to. Then I noticed I was destroying the pedals. I went through two pairs of egg-beaters, two pairs of Shimano and one other brand (They are all expensive..) before I got a set of V8 flats. Hated them at first and then, as you mentioned in the video, I discovered Five-Ten. Amazing shoes. It was like being clipped in without the pain. Good video by the way.

  • @arlingtonguy54
    @arlingtonguy546 жыл бұрын

    I’m 64 so as a kid rode flats, then moved up to clip pedals with the leather toe strap, then later to clipless which is what I ride today on my MTB. Now, considering going back to flats. Full circle heh?

  • @gaylengurr3911

    @gaylengurr3911

    6 жыл бұрын

    did the same. after 15 years only riding frogs I have gone back to flats. as i get older being able to get out without thinking about it becomes more important. and yes I miss the feeling of control with the frogs.

  • @vindangelo2422

    @vindangelo2422

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm 67 rode clipless all my life going to try flats this season never too late to learn something new

  • @tamasvarga67
    @tamasvarga676 жыл бұрын

    I agree, I tried both long enough and now I ride flats/510 on my mountain bikes and clips on my road bike. That’s my preference but nothing wrong with either. Ride whatever you like just enjoy riding :) On an other note I follow you guys for a while and your general ‘dislike’ of Shimano sticks out every time even in this video. You said SPD was hard to unclip but it’s misleading because the spring tension is adjustable to a point when it’s too easy to unclip. Crankbrothers’ release angle is much bigger and requires more foot rotation to unclip which is harder especially for first timers. I saw this around me many times. Of course they can still be your preferred pedals but don’t be misleading if you want to be credible.

  • @tristanjones9045
    @tristanjones90454 жыл бұрын

    I grew up riding clip less but at the beginning of every season I switch to flats to gain the confidence back and push progression for a few weeks. It gives me something fun to do well build back up the cardio endurance!

  • @n.prince2458
    @n.prince24585 жыл бұрын

    Hope more mountain bike content includes testing the Yeti SB6 behind you.

  • @jamiemtb
    @jamiemtb6 жыл бұрын

    Never road clips, only flat pedals from a kid on a Bmx to a adult on a Mtb.

  • @headoverbars8750

    @headoverbars8750

    4 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @swaggyt609

    @swaggyt609

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me 4

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re not supposed to ride road clips, you’re supposed to use mountain bike clips.

  • @jakemorandthemomoz8154
    @jakemorandthemomoz81543 жыл бұрын

    My father bought a MTB with Shimano clippless in the mid 90s and uses them with the 2nd bike today, he likes them but I want to start MTB ING in the near future and will try both of em.

  • @sunilsharma-rw8lp
    @sunilsharma-rw8lp3 жыл бұрын

    many thanks, i was in a dielemma about using cleats iam not at all comfortable, i enjoy more and stress free with flat pedals, thanks again

  • @landandwaterca
    @landandwaterca4 жыл бұрын

    I've used clips back in the day, then switched to SPD clipless and haven't looked back. It's so natural to have a solid link with the bike. I started using clipless ina time when we all rode hardtails and suspension was minimal. if you were not secured with the bike, then you quickly were bounced away from it. Today suspension on average trail bikes are so cushy, flats work out for many people. It won't be me. I can unclip and hit the ground faster than you can with a flat because I don't have to lift up from the pedal to get off. Down and over and bam, foot on the ground.

  • @stevaone
    @stevaone5 жыл бұрын

    I ride clipless, and I do love it. But lately I've actually been thinking of going flat to see if I notice a difference in my riding style.

  • @earlmonteclaro9833
    @earlmonteclaro98335 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation on "clipless" and comparison of flats vs. clipless! Thank you! ...fairly new to mtb and I mainly use flats. Does anyone use those soccer shin guards under their socks while riding to avoid the shin strikes/shinners/bear traps I've been reading about? Do those work well for those of you who use them?

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Earl! Thanks for the awesome feedback. Those guards are not very common. If you are running flat pedals it is a great idea to invest in mtb specific shoes such as FiveTen or Afton. They have a sole that doesn't wear too fast and also sticks to the pins of flat pedals well. With a little practice, you will learn to avoid pedal strikes. Shoot us an email if you need any recommendations at info@worldwidecyclery.com and you can start by checking out these www.worldwidecyclery.com/products/five-ten-freerider-grey-black-shoes-size-us-10-0-flat-pedals-510.

  • @earlmonteclaro9833

    @earlmonteclaro9833

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks for the reply and input! I use trail running shoes on the flat pedals. It may be time to get some real mountain biking shoes.

  • @bradsanders6954
    @bradsanders69545 жыл бұрын

    Ive ridden SPD's since the 1st year they were made. But now I have an issue with feet/ankles which was threatening to keep me off the bike,so I drug out some basic Flat pedals and so far no new shoes but even with some basic stiff Keen sandals I am back on the bike with 0 ankle or feet problems. Im thrilled really,I will get good shoes and pedals and be good to go. The Shimano shoes look good.

  • @TheMrDavidCurran
    @TheMrDavidCurran6 жыл бұрын

    The area I ride is pretty rocky, and all but two of the 10 or so people I often ride with ride clipless pedals. I generally find I am lighter on my bike, and get thrown around less on the rock sections being clipped in and able to control my bike better from my centre of mass, rather than worrying about trying to keep my feet on my bike.

  • @FhargaZ
    @FhargaZ5 жыл бұрын

    After my injury i bought five ten high shoes for flats, those gave me more support for the ankle and reliance if i have to bail out. My injury was for stucking the foot in a muddy downhill...in a rock...so any time i see riders doing the same i think: "how?!! Why?!!" 😣

  • @asselinpower
    @asselinpower6 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always 🤘 I ride both but prefer flats, just more confident for me. By the way, I ve seen the new Insurgent and Wreckoning, is the Calling getting any change ?

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't look like any change thus far. It's still a relatively new bike in the lineup.

  • @nigelmccomb8106
    @nigelmccomb81064 ай бұрын

    I have been riding cliped in for 15 years but that was on a road bike , I am changing to gravel/trail riding and am considering trying flats.

  • @dannyrutz3792
    @dannyrutz37925 жыл бұрын

    Stepbrothers reference was hilarious

  • @doogie64
    @doogie644 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff. I’m old enough that I used straps on my first GT. Signed,,,relic. 😬

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used double straps with road shoes and cleats that locked me in. While it forced me to be a good bike handler, I was really glad when SPDs came out (I still ride on my original M737s; just finally bought some M520s to replace them).

  • @doogie64

    @doogie64

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@keirfarnum6811 after 15 years, I have a new set of xt’s. Getting ready to buy flats for my DC travels.

  • @ricowilly7340
    @ricowilly73406 жыл бұрын

    I still have toe clips on my old hard tail, it now also sports a kids seat on it .

  • @WorldwideCyclery

    @WorldwideCyclery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Whoa! Toe Clips with a kid onboard! Now that is extreme! :)

  • @Saltydoc121
    @Saltydoc1214 жыл бұрын

    Rode clips for years in 80' and 90's. Also had clipless road bike. Got back into the MTB game and started clipless. After 2 years tried flats and never looked back. Much more confidence in the techie stuff. Do miss the clipless for those long climbs though.

  • @Dragonman0876
    @Dragonman08765 жыл бұрын

    It's easier to climb trails, especially over loose terrain when clipped in, due to the fact that you can just spin. It's a different ball game on flat pedals. There is a section at my local trail where I can 100% climb up clipped in, but not so on flat pedals. However I see this as a challenge and hence sticking to flat pedals for at least a while longer. Btw I changed from riding clipless to flat pedals after more than 20 years of riding to learn the 'proper' techniques of bunny hop.

  • @rushthezeppelin
    @rushthezeppelin4 жыл бұрын

    Just started riding two weeks ago. I find I really like to dab on hard sections and switchbacks that aren't banked so I think I'm going to stick with flats.

  • @justgo4033
    @justgo40333 жыл бұрын

    Now i feel old , I remember using toe clips in the 90’ s . Ive been riding flats for 20 years but since i bought a hardtail last year i find my feet getting bucked off on the rough downhills so im thinking of getting some clipless on there .

  • @BWT599
    @BWT5993 жыл бұрын

    Watched one of the videos on the top clipless pedals from this channel. Ended up hunting down the Time Speciale 12s as one of the recommendations for something in between SPD and CB. Bought the Ride Concept Transition shoe which requires the CB shoe shield with the Time ATAC cleats. Can’t seem to feel comfortable with the set up at all, and the thinking ahead of time chore definitely is on the front of my mind. My 4 year is riding awesome on a Prevelo front suspension disc brake 16 inch set up, but bikes don’t offer gears until 20 inch. So even though we’re cruising on flow trails, I have to dismount and help my son up the steeper hills. The cleats have already worn down a lot while walking two bikes up a hill several times a week. I ordered a custom set from Squidworx flats and a pair of Addidas 510 trail mid cut shoes tonight.

  • @stevehall1383
    @stevehall13833 жыл бұрын

    Now I get it! Thanks

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