QUICK UPDATE: I've been using the Grom Vline Carplay unit for less than a week and so far its been a bit buggy which has been the complaint online about it for the 2011-2012 Ct 200hs. Proceed with caution if you're considering buying the unit. I will do an update video on the second channel very soon.

@blairwilliams136

Жыл бұрын

What sort of bugs have you found ? I've been running a vline vl2 in my 2008 RX350 for the past 2 years and its honestly been excellent. Its had a few hiccups but nothing to serious and overall reliable .

@blairwilliams136

Жыл бұрын

I've read about some of the issues with the early ct200hs on the grom forum but they are old posts some im curious to hear more from you. I want to get one for the wife's CT next Xmas.

@jackweta

Жыл бұрын

My two Grom units failed fairly quickly total bummer

@tj_offroad

Жыл бұрын

Have you done all the software and firmware updates? I have one on my 100 series and had to do several from the get go, and while it's not a perfect solution, I like it overall. The biggest drawback is the 20 year old screen and it's twitchy touch response. I actually wish I had a joystick like you have.

@fredd3.14

Жыл бұрын

2nd channel?

Love these commuter refreshment videos, I think it’s because we can all relate. Not everyone has a race car, but we all have commuters and daily drivers.

@turbodarkle

Жыл бұрын

I own a CT200h so it's nice to hear about it or see a video. They weren't very popular vehicles, which is why they were discontinued to begin with 😅

Love these long term realistic car ownership content! Keep it up

@jasonkolker9444

Жыл бұрын

Fax. Me too

These engines are the same as the prius engine for this generation. We rebuild these all the time since they all love popping head gaskets around 150k miles. They love Bruning oil too. Doing the rebuild better is than buying a used engine since the used one might be ready to pop anyway. These bottom ends are pretty robust when it comes to wearing out cylinder walls so we don't need to hone them (Toyota says not to). So we usually put head gasket, pistons, rings, and bearings (usually Toyota #2 marked bearings)

@m4n4mk1

Жыл бұрын

@TheCarCareNut has mention this model and the issue with its engine. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGebsNavoZC_pJM.html

@camerondeacon4450

Жыл бұрын

A buddy of mine and I bought a 2012 Prius with a ceased engine. Our intent is to just swap a good used engine in it and sell it, but I’m considering buying him out of it and keeping it. I believe it has the 2ZR-FXE, is that the same engine you’re referring to here? Or a variation of it? I know in the 2012 generation they had oil consumption issues.

@jp2246

Жыл бұрын

Why not re-ring the stock pistons?

@juffurey

Жыл бұрын

So people need to drive it like a Prius which I'm sure Pete is not doing lmao

@kiret_4eva

Жыл бұрын

@@jp2246 the piston groves usually wear out with the rings.

This just goes to show that when you try and update your car's component, you need to think about it's environment more than track points if you're going to daily it. Very good update.

Keep up the practical maintenance videos. Like this and the Tundra

Really enjoy these realistic daily driver car videos

CT200h FTW. Love the content on normal cars like this. I need one.

the problem of this engine is that it was designed in the first place for none hybrid purposes. When you think about what a head gasket does, it seals the block & head together during temperature changes(compressed in high temp & decompressed in low temp) Since the headgasket is the same as the none hybrid engine, it goes through the same amount of temperature cycle, but instead of having 1 at each start up, it has a lot more since the engine stops when the electric motor is on, then starts up again, and so on… That’s why the blow at 100-150k km instead of 450-500k km as they do in corollas! Egr has a part to play, but it’s not the major flaw of this engine. This issue was resolve in 2016 when they adressed the problem by changing the headgasket they use to put in 2011-2015 models

@marcophilhom6844

Жыл бұрын

So they used different style head gasket?

@stanisawhilcher396

10 ай бұрын

Is it really just a different head gasket? Which one to use for CT200 from 2012?

@yordleonkush7970

10 ай бұрын

Thank goodness mine is a 2017! The last production year for this model in the US.

@pawballer1964

9 ай бұрын

So the restyling units from 2017+ are safe?

@michaelking4578

8 ай бұрын

@@pawballer1964nope. They go too. More and more as time passes.

I’ve always liked the look of these cars having the CarPlay upgrade must make it feel like a more modern vehicle. Also looks so much nicer with the better suspension and spacers. Incredible the difference it makes. You would think there would be a aftermarket better quality head gasket out there to help solve this issue with the amount of taxi companies worldwide using this engine in their cars.

the CT and 3rd gen Priuses seem to be disproportionately effected by the EGR issue, unfortunately. The 4th gen seems to have solved it, but even the 2nd gen Prius which is known to be quite a tank, isn't immune to it, despite the 1NZ engine in the non-hybrid Echo/Yaris being bulletproof. Something about an all aluminum engine that's constantly cooling and heating sounds like it would lead to this. My 2nd gen's water and oil temps move around a lot but it's within spec.

Love the update!

I think the f sport front bumper would really complete this car- keep the content coming!

loved this format

Awesome update PT. I recently put in a 10" replacement screen on my Wife's CT200H and other than a bit of a slower start up its been good. I also put the vline2 in my landcruiser a couple of months ago it's been good but there has been some small bugs. I need to order this suspension setup for the Wife's car after this video I'm no longer going coilivers. Cheers from Aus!!!

So glad to see this video as other KZread videos don’t talk about different solutions besides cleaning EGR. My 14 CT200 recently gave out starting with the rattle at engine start up then coolant getting into the heads. Glad to know there’s a way to mitigate these issues!

@podrezd

Жыл бұрын

Try 93 gas..

@sonofapollo5892

Жыл бұрын

Mitigate the problem? Yo have a head gasket issue.

Hey man, great vid!! I'm in Stoney Creek and I've been looking for one of these 2012/13 for a long while now. When I find one, I'll be doing what you've done to yours (except the head gasket I hope). That doesn't deter me because this is a great daily commuter. Thanks!

This video was very helpful. I had the sams issue. Initially changed spark plugs , changed coils and even cleaned EGR valuve and my injectors. Still had the rattling issue. Ended up changing the headgasket and mechanic advised changing timing belt at the same time cost me 2600 cdn. No more issues.

Glad I found this video. I was shopping for a used hybrid and this was on my list of cars. Avoiding but they do look nice.

Excellent video

There is a great youtube channel named ( Gasket Masters ) They are specialized in Prius head gasket, they explain why it is such a common issue with hybrids cars

I do extended service contract claims. The rare claims on these have been for head gaskets and it seems to be only in states where temps get bellow 0 degrees. Almost like the head gasket shrinks in cold weather

When the EGR valves become carbonded up the will stick open slightly always letting exhaust gas into the intake. You can make a small sheet metal block off plate and put it in between the EGR and cylinder head. You wont get a CEL as everything will work as normal but no exhaust gas will be let into the intake. Common practice in the diesel world.

Neat, didn't think I'd see a big car tuber post about a CT. Got myself a 2011 model, going 227k miles strong but the HV battery is going bad, a couple of the cells are out of balance. You really oughta give a shout out to the CT200h forums, there's a lot of good info over there including the service manual if you wanna do the work yourself.

@georgeburns6512

Жыл бұрын

Do you have a link to the forums?

The OEM springs and dampers are really good for this chassis. You only need strut tower cars and Swaybars.

I was thinking about getting a used one. This is perfect time!

Best value and reliable vehicle I gave ever purchased!

I was thinking of getting the TS5 wheel setup you had on. Was there a reason you removed them? Thank you!

Hi, I have a 2012 Lexus CT and in a previous video you put some black 18'' wheels, and in this video you have gone back to the old OEM ones. I wanted to change my OEM tires, and I was wondering if you had a bad experience with the 18'' or you just changed them because it was winter/summer I would like you to recommend me if it is good for our car to change from 16'' to 18''. thank you so much

Funny you make this video and my 2012 ct200h had this problem. I don’t have funds to do a head gasket job. I used sealer followed with coolant. And after 2 days, the rattle gone away and the gasket sealed for now

Can you share more info about your dash cam setup and how you wired it for your car? I have a Gen 3 Prius that I tried setting a dash cam with, and it destroyed my aux battery.

Mechanic gives Guyanese/Trinidadian vibes props to you brother

The head gasket is common on both the Prius and the CT. It is caused by Heat Cycles. with the engine starting and stopping constantly the head bolts can only keep things together for so many heat cycles. Replacing the head gasket and head bolts every 80 to 100k miles wouldn't be uncommon. City driving seems to affect the engine more as with highway driving the engine continuously runs so less heat cycles.

I would like to see an update on the 4 runner and the 2nd m3

I like that you go to "Music" to enable Apple Carplay instead of entering some type Koonami code to switch over.

Happened to my moms 2012 CT, $7,000 repair at Lexus. Pretty sure I commented warning about this on the first CT video you guys did, unfortunate it happened to you. Great video!

@sonofapollo5892

Ай бұрын

She got robbed. Toyota charged me $3200 for the head gasket replacement.

I love these Lexus CT it looks really good always thought about only one for a nice daily

I had one of these and loved it, specially living in flat Florida. Then I moved to a more hilly area in another state and it was dangerously slow merging onto highways. Like I had to run the shoulder a few times just to avoid getting hit by a semi. Then something started making clicking noises on braking. I sold it just bc of the slowness, but loved the mpg and quietness of it. Sucks that this blows head gaskets.

Lots of things packed in one video! Pretty crazy about the head gasket tho! It just randomly leaks after 100k to 150k miles?

Hey, what type of Spacers are you running? Did you notice a difference in ride? Thank you!

Thanks for the recommendation for your suspension, I have a CT also with RSR springs, but didn’t know there was an option to upgrade the shocks

@djparra41

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2014 CT and I have been interested in replacing the suspension as well, mine is completely stock right now, but it’s a little too crashy for my liking, and I would like to lower it. What type of wheels and tires do you have?

@speedacademy

Жыл бұрын

The Tein suspension is amazing since it’s adjustable so Ive been slowly dialing it in for the perfect amount of comfort and ride quality.

the knock on startup after a long time of sitting sounds similar to my is250, the vvti likes to blead back and makes a mad noise if you let it sit for 2 weeks

The older I get, the more I understand that a good set of quality dampers and lowering springs is the best way to go on a daily driver. Recently put a set of Bilstein B8s and Eibach Prokits on my Focus ST and I'm absolutely in love with how it's rides while soaking up miles of windshield time.

@Uno_Floydd

Жыл бұрын

Nope that title goes to adjustable everything on stock dampeners and springs with better tires.

@TassieLorenzo

Жыл бұрын

That's true! Or just stock if the stock suspension is already sporty enough and low enough. E.g., Civic Si seems fine (the new one, the 11th gen, perhaps not so much the 9th gen K24 that was a little soggy without the HPD suspension), Civic Type R seems fine -- no need to change IMO, unless chasing lap times/autocross times! I don't really understand why people lower cars that are already low. It think it would be nice if slightly uprated springs were available but which didn't lower the car any more at all -- just the +15% spring rate bit without the -15mm bit of a typical lowering spring! On the damping side, I guess there are people who say aftermarket shocks have more sophisticated damping and are not built down to a price as much as OE, which may or may not be true. I dunno! 🙂 I feel like the stock RSX/Integra/Civic Type S/Type R shocks are pretty good, whether they are the Honda Showa ones made in Japan or the Sachs ones made in Germany that came on English-built Type Rs. They have a very beefy shaft (lol, 21mm IIRC) and seem to hold up pretty well! You could get OE-like aftermarket, for example you could get Mugen struts for FG2/FA5 Si's and non Type R FD2s which were made by Showa, and are probably not that different to OE shocks apart from the valving. I see Monroe supply the stock shocks for North American Focus STs.

@andrewcowden9704

Жыл бұрын

@TassieLorenzo very true for newer sport model cars like the Type R line. My ST shocks were worn, so Bilsteins were the next best option for something a little more sporty without compromising the ride.

Did your old enkei ts5 wheel/tire setup require extended studs?? Thanks

I am torn between a Ct200h and the latest gen honda fit. Any thoughts on a Fit?

Can you do a quickbuild on a Honda Fit?

Guys, you can do better than Doorman, they suck!! Love the update on the Lexus, were shopping for one for the girlfriend but we settled on a brand new Corolla H/B instead

My 2012 ct200h is going on 240000km and going strong, no major issues so far and no check engine light since I got the car with 180000km. I only get some strong vibrations when the car sits a while and gets some moisture in the engine on the initial startup for about 30 seconds, but it only happens once in a while.

@sonofapollo5892

Жыл бұрын

The head gasket slowly goes out start up and taking off can be rough then smoothes out you think you’re fine until it teals itself.

What spec & brand spacers are on this car?

Are you sure the engine isn't from Subaru lol? Great long-term update to show that even brands will great reputation can still have issues.

I have a 2011 IS350 F-Sport as a daily driver. Have looked at the Grom Vline car play unit, but if the one you're running in the CT200h is similar to the IS350, I might pass on it and keep using my trusty old iPod to play my music via the usb input.

I was holding out right to the end for a "so yeah... the only thing that makes sense now is to K swap it..."

Remember doing this on my dads Prius V, its been good for 40k km but looks like the egr cooler is starting to clog again, going to have to remove and clean it out :(

Thanks!

Where did you get the modellista front lip replica? link please!

I am running H&R springs and Tein EnduraPro Plus shocks and have them set at 8 cause roads where I live are terrible with lots of potholes😅 I wish the spring rates were slightly stiffer but it rides amazing.

Ive got tein street advance coilovers on my gs300. Ive slowly turned them up and up untill they are at full stiff as they are way too soft. Same for my mates evo. Both daily street cars. It baffles me how some after market suspension is crazy stiff and some is crazy soft. The best results ive had is stock suspension with cut springs for street use. Vehicle manufacturers spend millions on on your ride so its hard to beat

All the right things done. I need to get my 2014 F sport the Apple Carplay. Just not sure if I can stomach the cost for that unit! Like to hear more about it after a while.

Hows the hybrid battery holding up?

What spacers are you using on the wheels ?

Would anyone recommend latest model ct200h or corolla hybrid and how long would u guys reckon they would last when it comes to miles if well maintained

How long does the battery on one of these approximately last??

Can you guys pls do some more dyno testing on the 430 and a long term update on the 430

I have a 2012 ct200h with 200 miles, I had the same head gasket problem and over heating issues. Instead of replacing the head gasket which cost 2k, I replaced it with a 2016 Japanese engine with 60k miles. It cost me $2300 total with installation, 2016 gen 4 Prius engines no longer have the head gasket issues. I'm glad I replaced my engine, most engines from Japan has low miles because their law requires them to retire the cars after 4-5 yrs.

Our Shop - Hybridpit in SoCal specializes on engine rebuilds. We build it better using Toyota Revised pistons and rings and of course using a Felpro head gasket to make the recipe complete 🏁

In the 3rd gen Prius which has the same engine I believe. You can swap to the 4th gen engine.

I have a 2012 CT and I love mine. But I did have to replace the hybrid battery at 180,000 miles. Seems like it is common for it to go bad around that range. I checked into “refurbishing, rebuilding, reconditioning” the battery but those methods just put a bandaid over the issue and I plan on keeping it for a long time. I did the swap out myself, wasn’t too hard. Bought from a Lexus stealership for around $2500 USD.

@Slowcarfastbeans

Жыл бұрын

Yep, 260k miles for me. I drive a lot of miles and that’s probably why mine went longer. I used to cycle the battery a lot where practical until the engine was forced on. I don’t do that any more since I’m lazy now and want to postpone another battery.

I almost pull the trigger yesterday on a 2016 CT200 but the car appeared neglected on the exterior so I assumed the interior was worse. After watching your video, I am going to have to think twice about getting a ct200 and look at something else. Huge bummer because I really love the look of this Lexus. Love your videos

@louie081

Жыл бұрын

2014+ CT models don’t have the same egr and head gasket problems as the 2011-2013 models

@azhule4041

5 ай бұрын

​@louie081 I thought so, but thanks for confirming that

Holy borescope! You can check the cylinder from the tail pipe with that one :)

Do you recommend changing transmission fluid after not changing for 145K miles now ?ct200 here.

I love the style of these cars, you can also do the facelift conversion as well. That ride height is perfect for my taste 👍🏼. The rear being slightly higher makes it perfect for passengers.

@fiercenet

Жыл бұрын

yup Revemoto sells a complete prepainted kit for a not unreasonable price.

What dash cam are you using?

I had the exact same problem at the end of last year and now had to go back this year to get the engine rebuilt at 130k miles

Always a bummer when the DD needs work. Though it's a bit funny how much less flaming there is compared to if it was a Subaru head gasket, lol.

The car care nut has a good video on one of these cars. He is a Toyota master diagnostic mechanic so he knows a thing or two about them.

To be honest, I was hoping for a “what to come in 2023” type of video just like Throtl or G&G, I’m really eager to know what you guys will be doing this year! On the other hand, nice to see you tackle the problems on your daily driver, hope the head gasket won’t blow anytime soon now. All the best for 2023 guys 🎉

It's too bad about the head gasket issues - I was considering one to upgrade from my Fit

Beautiful lexus

Was totally expecting a Kswap as the solution, LOL

I replaced my head gasket about 2 years ago when the car had 128k miles. Now, two years after and 142k miles, the problem is coming back. Any thoughts?

It's constant heat cycles of the ICE engine (engine turning on/off switching from EV to charging, etc) causing the springiness of the gasket and also possibly stretching of the head bolts. These engines were designed as regular combustion engines, not designed for this on off cycle. Apparently Toyota can't figure out a solution since all Prius, and the like, engines have that issue, in my experience

put s thin film of never-seize on the threaded shock body on coilovers. they're usually steel, whereas the locknuts tend to be aluminum, even if they aren't disimilar metals the never-seize will help negate any corrosion.

Hello, I would like to purchase a 2017/2018 Lexus CT200h, has the engine had any improvements since that date regarding the head gasket or is it the same 2011/ 2012 engine? Thank you in advance.

Is this the same chassis as the Corolla Im

GOOODMORNING GUYS!!!!!!!!

I’ve installed GROM on two of my vehicles and love it. It is expensive, but totally worth it. Completely changes the experience on owning the car

@Knightfall23

Жыл бұрын

I have the Beat sonic module installed on my 13 GS350 and it’s great.

BR Works! My family has been going here for over 20 years

Just replaced my engine at 107k had similar issues was a headache and a half to figure everything out

Not 100% sure if i saw right but i think your rear left tire is mounted as a right side tire!

that whole segment around 13:00 with the binging... next time just hold the door switch closed or something! 😂

@speedacademy

Жыл бұрын

We just love to annoy the audience 😉

@OsotastyLordKC

2 ай бұрын

Open door, locate latch on door, use screwdriver to push down the hinge pen that holds the door to the latch, stops beeper... Just open door handle to unlatch or door won't shut with its latch engaged

I'm looking to change the dampers on my GT86 to make it more of a GT car and comfortable coilovers like Ohlins is out of my budget. Should I go with the same Tein units or Bilstein B6s?

@riccccccardo

Жыл бұрын

Same

My dad had a 2009 Toyota Prius GEN 3 which we used as an Uber. We drove 280k miles original engine and original gearbox. Needed a new battery from Toyota. New EGR. New headlights and suspension all around. We gave the car to a friend and it still runs today. I think the cat is dead due to oil burning but the cooling system is still intact today.

You gonna sell the coils?

what abt the 2015 model?

instead of the egr it can be the electric water pump wich should be changed as a maintenance item every 120k miles or so. My waterpump initiated head gasket trouble, egr was clean...

Unfortunately this is a thing that plagues the CTs and Prius with the same engine. Some are lucky to not have dealt with it.

I have a 2016 which I bought in 2018. I don't regret buying this car. I LUV IT! I would like to buy another one. Mine doesn't have the bells and whistles, but I don't care. It gives me what I want. Power, speed when I need it. Stability and most of all great fuel economy.

I bought my 2012 CT200h 6 years ago with 221,000 miles and a blown head gasket from a personal friend that bought it new. It had a bad CVT from never having its fluid changed. I did a complete JDM engine and transmission together. 260,000 and running 100% I put a head gasket on the pode engine and sold the engine to a local used car dealer for one of their cars!

what about a egr delete?

I have this car and I recommend installing a oil catch can. There is a lot of blow-by when the engine is running cold due to friction efficiency. If you dont want to install a catch can I recommend letting the engine warm up and let the metal expand before driving it to reduce blow-by.

@brentwatts6130

Жыл бұрын

How can you warm the engine up on hybrid? Doesn't it start on battery power?

@YeahYeahItsJustin

Жыл бұрын

@@brentwatts6130 It might depend on the make and model, my gen3 Prius will run the engine at first start or when cold. The engines runs until it reaches the set operating temp then shut-off. Or it will continue to run if you have certain accessories running.