My Husband is extremely patriarchal. Please change him.[Hello Counselor/ENG,THA/2018.11.26]
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Hello Counselor EP.389
- Kim Johan, Red Velvet's Seulgi & Joy, Faker, Seo Dohyun
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Call a thing, a thing. He's a controlling abusive husband
Ohmygoooodddd... call him out for what he is! Don't excuse it by saying he's "patriarchal" He KICKED his 4 year old. Point, Blank, Period, He's ABUSIVE!
@Flowersgot7
5 жыл бұрын
allot of parents abuse there children even at a young age i know people who abuse there 2 and 3 years children
@Artsychild
5 жыл бұрын
@@Flowersgot7 That doesn't make it right. Just because many people do it, doesn't mean it should happen.
@Flowersgot7
5 жыл бұрын
@@Artsychild oh yeah i know it's soo wrong
@Flowersgot7
5 жыл бұрын
@@Artsychild i said that because the person who comment acted shocked!.. even tho these things happen on daily bases
@Artsychild
5 жыл бұрын
@@Flowersgot7 Aaaah sorry! I misunderstood
also don't tell guests to hold themselves back! they should speak up and express their opinions because most of the times they one causing the problems are stubborn and won't listen to polite talks!
If this is married life, I. DONT. WANT. IT. ✌byeee
@eggani3607
5 жыл бұрын
CoffeeCreamer it’s not the fact they are married is the problem the problem is that she married someone who was controlling and abusive
@gloria8659
5 жыл бұрын
That's why u should find a good soulmate
@yellowbarch
5 жыл бұрын
Just don’t marry a korean guy 😂
This story highlights the fact that hello counselor needs take certain issues more seriously. The way that the MC said she was holding back and told Joy to hold back too was uncalled for, they should be doing the opposite. It's important to let that individual know what he is doing is extremely unacceptable. I know that it's a slow build up to get all the details from the person telling the story, but in these cases they should cut to the chase faster. These cases should not be for entertaining they should be for informing people about how to identify what to do with abusive relationships or to make the person who is responsible for the misgivings acknowledge what they've done and show that they will actually get help to better their lives for good. Moreover, they should be raising awareness on older people and the care that they need especially with how uncared for the elderly are in South Korea. This just sets me off and i'm not okay with the way things were handled.
@KhoaTran-fx2kc
5 жыл бұрын
versatile96 they’re on the national TV channel so they have to hold their angry back. And because the man is talking so the MC has to stop Joy from being “interruption”, it’s a counselling program so they try to hear both of the side story. And Joy might say something during the recording but they cut it out. They have to keep it on the right script and showtime. I don’t say their program is fake, don’t get me wrong lol 😂
@versitile96
5 жыл бұрын
@@KhoaTran-fx2kc I understand where you're coming from, but I still think it shouldn't happen this way. I hope that they actually refer them to professionals so that they can actually work things out.
@sruthi671
5 жыл бұрын
I really hope the program reports him to child protection services. He just abused his children when they are only toddlers. Like do you know how small toddlers are? Like seriously......this is so serious. Assuming that these girls are straight, they will have a very hard time interacting and holding relationships with men, fearing that all men are like their father.
@thegreenarrow8286
2 жыл бұрын
@@KhoaTran-fx2kc this show doesn’t do anything but try to make lite of serious topics I mean really it’s just pathetic how mc’s handle things. She needs to leave him
@alyaadibah9695
2 жыл бұрын
i think this show is not perfect but of course it's intentional to keep things controlled. you can't be thinking they should've done it raw and get actual counsellor and settle it right there on national tv. things would get messier and god knows who would end up go berserk breaking stuff. who knows maybe they actually are brought to a therapist after the show and properly given advices and treatments.
If I was his Mom, I wouldn't want him at my funeral.
Lady just leave him. He won't change just the way he is acting will show it. I mean it's 2018. I don't get how being a manager is so hard the way he explained it. I know managers snd they said it's hard but he is just making excuses
Just divorce, he won't change. He literally struggled to even say "I love you" to his own freaking spouse, saying he's not good with expressing emotions which I call bs. Don't even get me started with him kicking a 4 year old girl. And yeah, don't tell ppl to "hold back"... all this was such a mess he needed to be called out for all this crap.
@lausagna
5 жыл бұрын
03290221 an irene stan saying this.... an intelectual
@SaraH-jn5db
3 жыл бұрын
@@lausagna?
@lausagna
3 жыл бұрын
@@SaraH-jn5db this person was using an irene pfp so i made a joke that theyre smart both for stanning irene and saying that
lol. the husband says hes tired. arent the wife tired too? she wakes up earlier just to send him off, when hes working shes maintaining the house. when hes back the wife will be cooking and serving the husband. the husband says hes tired at work so he comes back and demand to be served. the wife is tired while maintaining the house as well, but i dont see her gg to his construction site and ask for a massage???
@donnamali5930
5 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that this a reoccurrence in these shows where the husband uses the same excuse as being "tired" or "stressed" to be horrendous husband. They're all the same its a shame really and its the same story with the wives they are mistreated along with the children it truly is a shame
@wannableishere1156
5 жыл бұрын
IKR!! Like you think you're the only one feeling tired??? He's very selfish and thinks only of himself. He even abuses his child!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
저런 분들은 제발 독신주의자 였음 좋겠어. 남집 귀한 딸 고생시키지 말고.
꼭 이혼당하고 치매 걸린 어머니 모시면서 일하고 와서 피곤한 몸 이끌고 애들 키우길
@user-zs3sg3gd7x
2 жыл бұрын
제가 하고싶은 말 해주시네요 2년이나 지나고 지금쯤 이혼 하셨으면 좋겠다 라는 생각밖에 안나요
He aint gonna change. It's all just talk. No action.
I’m proud of her for coming on the show and taking back her dignity. Now the whole nation knows how her husband has been treating her.
Koreans are too respectful..he is abusive!!
hello counselor frustrates me sometimes because the korean culture is similar to mine where divorce isn't the solution to their problems when it actually is. If it were some minor problem then yeah divorce isn't the answer but the guy is abusive both physically and verbally. And he's extremely sexist. I wish that men and women that are in abusive relationship wouldn't care about what people say and get a divorce.
@ZanetaW
5 жыл бұрын
It's Korean culture mixed with Christian/Catholic ideologies :((
@ughnotyou
5 жыл бұрын
Zaneta nah all religions value women. It’s men abusing their powers as usual.
@ZanetaW
5 жыл бұрын
@@ughnotyou I agree with you. Maybe I didn't state it properly; I meant how men throughout history misinterpreted the Bible to fuel what they believed and create the misogynistic society. Or they're just crappy.
@ughnotyou
5 жыл бұрын
Zaneta oh yeah I agree. Same thing with Islam. The religion highly values women and it encourages them to get an education and do so many other great things but men are being misogynistic and abusive and find a way to use the religion and their defense 🤷🏽♀️
@arr1744
5 жыл бұрын
middle east says wassup
The comments on this episodes are more helpful then the counselors
@dw-oc7uj
5 жыл бұрын
they hired comedians to be "counselors" they're not really "counselors" more like tv hosts trying to placate commercial friendly tv that's why they don't go in as hard as the commenters because we don't work for the network and don't have to worry about being too harsh it will deter future guests like him from appearing on the show
@sasuneuzumaki2186
3 жыл бұрын
@@dw-oc7uj I know its late but yall need to realise there are docs and counselors behind the scenes and you are watching a 6 hour shoot cut into an hour. So you do the math and see
When i read the *pathriarcal* concern. I can imagine the end already. God.. 💆 Edit: *somebody.please.save.the.poor.woman* 😢
@wannableishere1156
5 жыл бұрын
There was another concern with "patriarchal" in the title, I watched that first and now I can predict what happens in this ep...:((
For the long time viewers, do they ever do a follow up with past guest? I have serious doubts on whether he will change or not. This woman is definitely a special one cause I don't think I would be able to put up with this treatment for as long as she has.
@babyyneekyy
5 жыл бұрын
They do sometimes (I know they did more in the past) but it's not very often. I wish for stories like this they would because people like him need to change and if they don't they should be called out for it again.
@misha745
5 жыл бұрын
babyyneekyy Thanks so much for the response.
@Sharon-ym3ko
5 жыл бұрын
on rare occasions they'll do a follow up episode. i think its called Hello News? but usually they only follow up on guests who have been successful
My ex husband was EXACTLY the same... that is why i am a single mother today. i cried hard watching this video because i can feel her pain and i suddenly thought about my ugly past. it was a waste of time. *by the way, i got preg. at an early age.*
@hafsaadam2178
5 жыл бұрын
I hope ur doing better now and your ex gets what he deserves for treating you badly
@xx-uh2my
5 жыл бұрын
hi attention seeker :)
@yveshoe9412
5 жыл бұрын
honestly im not tryna be ignorant or wtv, but u should hand the child over to ur ex husband. i can literally imagine him now sexing up other women happily while u suffer alone to raise the kid :(
@rachelsantosa1075
4 жыл бұрын
@@xx-uh2my what the hell?
@anaghakari2331
3 жыл бұрын
@@xx-uh2my wtf! U seem like an attention seeker right now! No offence
도대체 아직도 저런 사람이 있다니 끔찍하다. 저런 사람이 결혼은 어떻게 한거야? 50대지만 집안일 잘해주고 주말이면 특별요리로 나를 감동시키는 나의 남편이 참 좋은 사람이라는 생각이 드네.
@user-it2rb2lw2m
2 жыл бұрын
그거슨 나도다
@vancouverlife1040
Жыл бұрын
맞벌이시면 그정도느 해줄수 있죠 ㅎ
와...듣다보니 점점쓰레기네~소리가 나오네. 지부모 간호까지 와이프가 하는걸 당연하게생각하네. 결혼을한게 아니라 하녀를 들였네ㅉㅉ 아내분 당장 도망가세요. 사람은 고쳐쓰지도못한다지만 저사람은 알면서도 남자라는이유로 평생 저런식으로 살꺼임.
Joy is me😠😠😠
@kingwinwin9669
5 жыл бұрын
Yes Baby IKR. I want to smack the husband down if I was there
@pandaonsteroids5154
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah while watching I love Joy so much. She is such a pure person. Expresses what she feels and doesn't hold back much at all. She's really someone to look up too.
I don't understand why they don't let joy be angry. She wanted to talk a lot of times. We are talking about an ABUSIVE man. Of course in Korea this kind of problem is really common but how can you be so calm watching this???
@Blooming.92
5 жыл бұрын
Someone in the top comment said, "its happen all the time, you dont need to shocked" or like you said "really common", so people need to calm.
@tosinalade853
2 жыл бұрын
It could ruin her image. Girl groups are more loved by the general public so scandals can greatly hurt their careers. I wished Joy could speak up but the MC who stopped her did the wise thing. He is probably used to crappy people like this guy and was better at self control.
Wow!! I really don't like this guy. Doesn't he know that he can clock out and leave work at a certain time everyday. When you are a mother and housewife there is no time clock. She doesn't get to clock out and have someone take care of her and that's not fair. The household chores and child care should be balanced for everyone to live happily.
역대급사연 ㅜㅜ 아내분 이혼이정답인것같네요... 남편분안변하실것같네요 😡😤 요즘 아내분같은사람없어요~~순하고착한분만나서 남편분이 복받았네요. 제발아내분한테 잘좀해주세요!!! 굴러들어온복댕이 발로차지말고요!!!!!!!
남편분은 딸들 시집가서 아내같은 대접 받아도 할 말이 없겠네요 휴
He works from 6 a.m. to 5 p.m. I don't want to be disrespectful but it doesn´t feel as super hard work. My mom works since the morning from 6 to 7 or 8 pm while my dad from 8 to 9 pm, and both work even on weekends, I always feel bad for them because I know they are overworking so much, when they got home they go to bed since they are very tired and fall asleep, sometimes they don't eat dinner from the tiredness. If the husband was really tired he wouldn't have the energy to nag and yell, hearing they guy complaining from work makes me laugh, the wife works so much longer than he, he doesn't do anything after 5 pm but she keeps doing house chores and taking care of the children, his mother and him. She should be the one getting the message. Is ironical that having that old mentality he doesn't protect his family but instead hits his daughter, he is the type of person that only talks of what suits him.
@donnamali5930
5 жыл бұрын
I know its absurd! My mother works as a nurse from 5am to 11pm or whenever she is called in because of the hetic schedules and it could be anytime really. She doesn't have weekends off either so she is working 24/7 when she would leave for work she would make sure that we were always fed that we were ready for school and had already made dinners for us we just had to heat them up or that we had all we needed before she left and she even cleaned when she got home as well when she did have time off which is on christmas she tries her utmost best to be with us with little time she has though we can tell that she is exhuasted she still stays with us. There's 6 of us and she had raised us all on her own she owns three houses plus renting two additional houses and you can tell she is exhausted to no ends but still manages to be an outstanding and loving mother and for that I am truly with every fiber of my being am grateful towards her she is my hero so seeing this man gets my blood boiling he has absolutely no excuse what so ever to treat his wife or child like this and dare to say he is tired and deserves this and that and the mother is a saint for putting up with his nonsense for this long. I hope she realizes its better to be on her own than suffer for the rest of her life its not only her its for her children's sake as well
@hatsumiito9445
5 жыл бұрын
He definitely shouldn't treat his wife badly, and what he does to his family is scummy, but his work hours are my work hours in an office, and I can assure you that after almost a decade of working like this, it drains you physically and mentally, and people react in different ways when they're exhausted. He's doing manual work, so I can imagine it's tough. But you're right that shouldn't be used to excuse his bad behavior.
@imanemetina8407
5 жыл бұрын
My mom has 2 jobs and an occasional one on the weekends, she works so much and still managed throughout the years to take care of us (3 kids) like a pro and raise us. We're hard workers and well behaved thanks to her. My dad had a government job and didn't do shit, he'd stay home all day (and getting well paid for it) but he wouldn't even wash a spoon. All we have, my brothers and I, is due to my mother. This guy is a dick and his daughters will end up hating him.
듣는 한국사람도 혈압이 이혼이 답
당연한권리라고 생각하고 있는 저 사고방식..절대 안고쳐짐.. 사람은 절대 고쳐쓰는거 아님..
i don't usually comment about the idol guests to keep it respectful towards the concern but yooo seulgi and joy were ready to bring their concept to life and genuinely knowing red velvet being the reasonable talented badass beautiful feminist lgbtq supporting outspoken musical genius queens that they are would never put up with that shit. i stan the right girls
Wow, I couldn't bring myself to watch til the end. This man just need someone to give him one tight slap to get his senses back. If its all about you being tired, then please divorce your wife. She does not need to baby you while she takes care of the girls. Its the way of his upbringing. He have this mindset that women are slaves. To the wife! You've done very well to endure and persevere through all this challenge. Please hang in there and dont give up yet!
I'm just here for Faker.
@Cherryplum1725
5 жыл бұрын
me too
@tarotselwyn291
5 жыл бұрын
me too
She's in an abusive relationship. Hope she dumps him a*s.
Hello counselor should add a psychiatrist into their panel
@nurhidayu4865
2 жыл бұрын
of course...they should at least invite one psychiatrist to give some opinion...if something that they want to share,just ask the psychiatrist...i think hello counselor can much better than before...
초기치매 얘기 나올때 같이 탄식했다 진짜.. 사람이 몇년을 6시간을 나눠 자면서 살 수 있나..
He is so ABUSIVE. I never hated a guest as much as this man.
i hate him. lady, just leave him. i doubt he want to change. this man not only partriarchal but he's abusive, he also a bad son to her mom. . your wife is your partner not maid. i think patriarchal men is everywhere in this world. try for one whole week doing chores at home and look up the kids, you'll be exhausted just like your wife
she should called police hes abusing
요즘 이런부인이 어디있어요 이거 진짜 실화인가요? 믿을수가 없네요 항상 감사하면서 사셔야 되요
why is noone saying that what he did to his kids is child abuse??
@sofidyn5529
3 жыл бұрын
right
되게우낀다..솔직히 나도 직장생활하지만 집에서 애보고 살림하는게 백배천배힘든데..어디서 개소리야ㅋㅋ 저런 남자만난 사연자 넘 딱하다...
사람이 어떤 환경에서 자라야 저렇게 되는걸까?
@gwajadanji
2 жыл бұрын
한국사회
I finished watching this just because Seulgi and Joy were there.
아내가 만만하고 그냥 싫은거예요 얼마나 돈 가지고 눈치를 주면 차라리 벌어쓰는게 편하겠단 말을 하는건지 모르겠네요 허락 안받아도 분명 지출내역 폰으로 뜨겠죠 이 시끼야 세상에 당연하다는건 없단다
2:31 wow his english pronunciation was on point!
집안일?전업주부면 아 예 그게 전업주부 일이니 그렇다쳐도 육아는 공용이고 집안일만 하면 되지 발까지 주무르라 물갖다달라 아내가 종인가...어휴 일도 힘들지 근데 육아도 힘든데 거기에 집안일까지 하면 아내는 온종일 쉬지도 못 하는데... 육아는 진심 답없음 진심 힘들어...아내는 차라리 일하고 싶을걸요?어휴 저건 아동학대지 훈육이냐 진짜 싫다 자기 엄마는 본인이 챙겨야지... 남자가 벼슬인가요?왜요?
다같이 다리 뻗은것봐 ㅠㅠ 배려심 짱,,
남편이 이걸 보실지 모르겠지만..남편! 아내분 옆에 계실때 잘하세요 아내분이 떠나고 땅을 치고 펑펑 우시지 말고요!
무능+인간성썩음=늙어서 길바닥 신세
아 진짜 역대급이다............ 혼자살지
여자 이혼한다니까 혼자 초기치매어머니 딸래미 둘 케어할라니 급 겁났겠지... 그래서 잘한겠다고 하는 그 속내 다 보인다 ㅡㅡ
this is so frustrating, I just want to hold that woman in my arms, tell her it's gonna be okay and to get a divorce.... she's such a cutie, she could find a nice man who will treat her like a queen
하...아내분은 남편분의 부하가 아닌데...부하라도 이렇게 대하면 안되요...
he's abusive PERIOD. leave him, that's the only solution. i hope she thinks about her precious self more and her daughter's future if she needs more courage to leave him.
간병비로 한달에 300을 줘도 도망간다. 정신차려라. 뭐 잘난것도 없으면서 꼴에..참 꼴값이다.
사연자 남편분 이혼하고 시어머니모시고 애들 데리고 혼자사세요!!! 지금 세상에 아내같은분 극히 드물어요!!!
99999%절대안바뀜 이혼이 답이다
Joy raised an intelligent question.
the woman is in a tough situation, this man has found his perfect victim. A woman who is so kind she takes care of his mother suffering from dementia, that's hard enough.A woman who is willing to get up multiple times to please him, she just wants appreciation. He isn't even allowing full reign on the money SHE makes. If a man does that, than it isn't love. Hes a douche bag who wants control.
Was it frustrating to anyone else how he puts his wife and children through hell but his facial expression and voice is so dull and sleepy? It's awful how different he was living with his roommate compared to now. It shows he has the ability to show respect and consideration and shared responsibilities with another person, but he just isn't extending that same respect and decency to his own wife😒😒😒
This man will never ever change. The only thing she can do is divorcing. I am sure she will have a better life. Soon her kids will go to school so she can work and is financially stable.. pls if you don't do it for yourself do it for your kids. No one needs a father like him. And i bet he is on TV because he wants to take the money. However it also pisses me off that the MCs are so chill and laugh. This woman is scared of her own husband. They should give him a lesson. Even they he won't change they should not seem it like this is something to laugh at. You can see that the younger generation(in the audience and joy)is really angry. This id also something about the korean culture. I bet there are soooo many woman which are abused by their husbands but they cant say anything because nobody would help them. It is not common to get a divorce. Woman which are divorced and have kids are seen like they are trash and the kids are bullied at school. Omgg there is sooo much to sayyy ☹️☹️☹️
now i understand why seulgi got sooo mad on tv for the first time!
This is the first time I saw Seulgi angry.
He’s unbelievable! His wife deserves better. She’s so cute and seems like a wonderful woman yet he’s taking advantage of her! I hope she is well and I hope that man is treating her the way she deserves to be treated.
i just want to say you are still a man if you clean your house, do the dishes, washing the clothes, even MASSAGING your/others feet and more. this is how a mature man think. doing household chores doesnt make you less a man.
joy is such a good actress, but she felt so angry, she couldn’t contain it KDLSKFSLZLXKS i feel you girl
One thing. They're both human. A dad must be able to take care both the mother and the children to maintain a happy family. He just thinks that he doesn't have to do anything. Hes so annoying and he doesn't even feel bad about his wife.
Wow this was uploaded about 30 minutes ago. I’ve never been this early.
결혼 하기전에 인성 후진거 딱 티가 안나나??? 저런 놈들은 몇번 만나면 바로 티나는데ㅋㅋㅋ 요즘 어느 며느리가 조선시대 처럼 지극정성 24시간 붙어서 간호를 해? 자식들도 잘해봐야 부모를 요양병원 입원 시키는데 ㅋㅋ
He’s an abuser point blank. Period. These descriptions of what he does and his responses are sick and i hate that they didn’t call him what him what he was and called him patriarchal instead.
17:14 까지 봤다. 말 문이 턱턱 막히네.. 세월 지나 후회할 행동만 하시는 것 같은데 생각 고치고 사세요. 내 가족보다 소중한 그 무엇도 세상엔 없습니다. 그 가족 눈에 눈물나게 하는 건 후회해도 소용없어요.
VIOLENT AND ABUSIVE?? KARMA WILL GET HIM!! 😡 😡 😡
OMO..... I JUST WANT TO MEET HIM AND SAID A FEW THINGS....IT'S STRESSFUL JUST WATCHING THIS EP
What does the gesture at 3:57 mean? I don't see why it would be rude so it must be a cultural thing
Whats the time stamp for when Seulgi gets mad?
Wth is wrong with the 33 other folks in the audience who didn’t vote this as a problem. This one deserves all 200 votes !
I am literally so disgusted by that husband...
The husband treats his wife as a housemaid.....
@Blooming.92
5 жыл бұрын
Worse than housemaid, at least housemaid gettin paid and could do whatever they please with their money.
@nataliachristiani3630
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah more like a slave rather than housemaid.
THE MINUTE HE PUT A HAND ON MY CHILD HE WOULD BE OUT THE DOOR!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
This is extremely concern how does the husband treat his wife is literally unfair. Unacceptable.
병원 가서 상담 꼭 받아야 될 거 같은데...
i was shocked to find an episode i havent watched of hello counselor....and oh boy do i wish i hadnt watched this one !
남편들은 말로만 효도 하는지~ 이혼하세요
joy laugh sound sweet 😍 man, better u not marry if u hurt ur partner
I'm glad that he feel bad too I hope he make changes and they'll get better
I should send a concern since my dad and my mom always told me to massage them 1 hour per each when i need to do my homework then
This guy is so proud that he works and brings in money that he thinks he can treat those at home like trash. He doesn't even have a great high paying job if he can't spare his wife $300, why does he talk so big 🙄
I DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD HE SAID. divorce his ass and take your kids and let him take care of his mother and pay child support, then he has the right to be a bitter old man and a tierent.
Low self esteem and a overly judgmental society let you gravitate towards this creature and marry him. If you aren't going to leave him then I'm not sure what to tell you, I see these concerns so often I get numb to them. Stop marrying men just to be married. I'd rather die single and happy mentally and physically than sick of my partner's presence who does nothing but cause me mental and physical stress. You have your options stay or leave.
나같으면 3분카레에 햇반 쌓아놓고 준다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
My girl you should runnnnnn, you got yourself into a hot mess, got me a bit teared up when she cried, poor thing!
Seeing this episode makes me even more scared to get married...
저분 참교육(true education)좀 받아야 겟네!
troll? true? they'll never know
와이프님 넘 착하시네요.귀엽우시고 천사겉은 사람이네요
This is called abuse…😡😡😡😡 you do not treat your wife like that, I dread to think how he treats his children….😡😡 she needs to show him the door NOW!!
This type of men make looking forward to marriage seem like a fairly tale.. it's traumatic and hopeless just watching. Isn't love about caring and cherishing... Sincerely wishes the best for the wife and also the daughters.
This is too sad. This is the reason why i'm afraid to have relationship
i'd rather be a single mom than live with someone like him and his mother. it's his mother so he should care for his mother. women are not born to do every household chores. that is why it's important that women should learn to be independent especially with money. women are not born just to do child care and household chores
joy seulgi