Any player who won't listen to the manager should leave.

@hollabronze9288

Ай бұрын

You're not being realistic with this your opinion

@LitoYTB

Ай бұрын

@@hollabronze9288u ain’t no UTD fan boy .

@franklinegendi7897

Ай бұрын

Someone like rashford has been ass for the last 5 yrs not following tactical instructions

@exaris1989

Ай бұрын

Yes, but also any manager who doesn't have balls to bench the player should leave.

@Deehydrate

Ай бұрын

@@exaris1989 Do any of us know whats in the contracts of a Rashford, Bruno or Casemiro? Players have clauses in their contracts that dictates how much playing time they need to have. Also our owners the "dear" Glazers will have a huge say in who plays due to asset values. Think about that.

to be honest, the quality of players in the squad is very midtable considering how every team in the league has already moved on to high line, high press and high possession tactics. The only reason why our average defensive line has moved 2 meters ahead compared to the last decade is because of Onana but we're still at least 8 meters behind the top teams. Recruitment in the glazer era focused too much on who is marketable on shirt sales rather than system players that could bolster the squad which led to too much imbalance in the depth.

@theelaing4746

Ай бұрын

Real talk 🫡

Players that improved: McTominay, slightly on the positioning of both ends, best personal season of his career. Maguire, performance improved. Dalot, became an all-rounded RB that United needed for a long period. Garnacho, general performance improved on the pitch, unlocking the new position on RW. In general, there are some flash moments when the team does it in transition much better than in the past few years. I don't count Mainoo and Kambwala as this is their first breakthrough season. So, I think he did a fair job on improving players. I insist on that the recruitment and poor management on the past few seasons is setting up managers to fail. And that's include ETH. Our players are too inept to adapt to any tactical instruction, we saw that in Jose, Ole, Ragnick and now ETH.

The ETH Ajax team was an actual balanced team back then with 2 good players on every position.

Like I said last time. Sell 10 players, buy 5-7 new players, then give ETH one more year to make it work.

@wwpark

Ай бұрын

He’ll deliver a top 4 finish. Will be another few seasons before he takes the title.

@PabloM254

Ай бұрын

Will support this if he doesn't have control over signings going forward.

@dondamon4669

Ай бұрын

He would need more than a year as it would be a brand new team, basically his first proper season

It’s hard to make tactical changes to adapt in a game when the players you have on the pitch are already playing out of position with specific instructions to make it work Imagine telling Wan bisaka to invert from left back to support build up when you’re hoping he can just give you a steady performance out of his natural position. Last season we saw Ten hag make subs and tactical adjustments that gave us the edge in so many games. When things are not good it’s easy to blame the manager and assume it’s all down to incompetence. But if anyone thinks we will ever have a manager who just shows up at a club this size in a league this competitive and pull results out of the sky with so much going against them, I advise they think again, harder even. Ten hag is still an exceptional manager and we need to shut out all the media noise and anger and support him. We get a bad result analyse it, be angry and keep supporting the manager like we supported SAF. Ten hag In!

@beeftestosterone5519

Ай бұрын

The issue is he has kept us with the worst pressing structure and rest defense in the entire league and when even a championship sode csn exploit that he has to go. We cant just blame the players who ofc are mediocre and about 70% of the swuad needs replacement but he has not fixed the same tactical issues we have had all season, we are arguably the worst side in the prem in defensive transitions, we have a abysmal pressing structure that even championship sides like coventry can exploit, we have a non existant rest defense and no proper build up structure which results in us losing the ball for the first 5 mins until onana goes long. We play a deep line while pressong high which u just cannot do, either y commit to a high line with suboptimal personell or u fuckin leave it with the press, every decent vall carrier takes the ball from one box to the other unchallenged, these are all issues he didnt fix in the entire season and while our mediocre squad surely doesnt help it they dont create these problems. For example, casemiro has been awful on the ball so why do u keep playing him, either u change the structure/ his position so that he plays towards his strengh like for example playing him as cb so the play is in front of him, he looked far better there, or, u swap hom for someone who can do that job Ten hag plays the same players who keep being abysmal and unable to fullfill there role so why should we give him a pass, why are we tryna press with rashford in the side, why are we tryna play out from the back eith casemiro maguire playing, either change the personel or if u dont have anyone better change the structure to suit ur players. U cant tell me amrabat would hVe been worse than casemiro this season, so why does he literally never play and casemiro starts every game being the worst player on the pitch. I have eth the benefit of the doubt till february but even when we had that small winstreak the same issues remained, we couls have easily lost each of these games even west ham were we won 3:0 but they kept blundering every chance.

@fliptab1244

Ай бұрын

@@beeftestosterone5519 Coventry didn't exploit shit. They got a lucky deflection and an easy giving penalty.

@aadi8568

Ай бұрын

@@beeftestosterone5519 amrabat has been injured majority of the time, and when he isnt he is covering leftback position. there is simply no other options other than casemiro. I think the main problem is our squad depth, when casemiro plays he is usually paired with mctominay or mainoo, mctominay is useless when it comes to covering midfield and mainoo is a brilliant player but he is unexperienced and can sometimes get lost. Casemiro is ageing and has to cover pretty much the entire midfield

@beeftestosterone5519

Ай бұрын

@@fliptab1244 "lucky deflection" if u concede 20 shots to coventry and put in 10 last second blocks at some point one will deflect into goal. Deflections arent lucky when we concede over 20 shots every game at some point misfortune is forced upon us when we concede so many shots, also u forgot to mention them hitting the bar twice in extra time and having a goal disallowed by an asshair. All season we use the excuse that teams score "lucky goals" and we are just so misfortunate but its just so delusional to think that with the amount of chabces we concede, if we had a better structure we wouldnt concede so many chances leading to us not having to put in last ditch blocks leading to less deflections. Its not rocket science.

@beeftestosterone5519

Ай бұрын

@@aadi8568 amrabat was fit majority of the season we just didnt use him, and id argur oyedele from the acedemy would do better in this structure than case does, again its not like we have small gaps we are fuckin open like a brothel on a friday night and rhats not just the players, its the structure that they are put in and u can have prime kante holding that midfield and we would still be open with this system.

The tactics rely on players who are workhorses, who are able to run nonstop for 90 minutes and are able to make decisions during then. High press, with a high line while keeping emphasis on possession are his philosophies but the squad was built focussed on low block counterattack. Two radically different ways of playing. Rangnick said as much when he first came on board.

@thalente8074

Ай бұрын

Remember when he tried implementing the counter press against Crystal Palace and it only lasted for 35 minutes, the players don't suit high intensity football and it doesn't look we have good medical facilities/staff with all the injuries were having this season

@user-zc2sz1os3j

Ай бұрын

A team that emphasize possession don't run up and down non-stop for 90mins. Possession teams tend to control the game. This basketball/football hybrid Mr. Hag has going here is not conducive to any squad. Which other top team play that way?

@siddharthsvparmar

Ай бұрын

​@@thalente8074 WHY DO OTHERS DON'T SEE THIS AS WELL!!!!!???? I watched the Rangnick game back again and he tried to play A HIGH PRESSING 4-2-2-2 BUT..... COULD ONLY FOR HALF AN HOUR BECAUSE PLAYERS GOT TIRED AFTER THAT!!!!! AND DON'T EVEN BLAME THE PLAYERS FOR THAT BECAUSE THEIR SPECIALIZATION IS NOT WHAT UNITED WANTS THEM TO PLAY..... RASHFORD IS PROBABLY THE BEST COUNTER ATTACKING WINGER IN THE WORLD BUT NOT THE BEST ALL ROUND OR POSSESSION BASED WINGER THAT UNITED WANT TO PLAY CURRENTLY FOR SURE!!!! BRUNO AND ERIKSEN MAKE THOSE MAGICAL PASSES THAT BREAKS THE WHOLE LINE OR WHOLE SQUAD OF PLAYERS AND GETS THE BALL IN THE OPPOSITIONS BOX VERY QUICKLY WITHOUT THE NEED OF THE PASSING THROUGH THE BACK PHILOSOPHY BUT BRUNO CANNOT KEEP THE BALL AND PROGRESS IT FORWARD LIKE A FRENKIE DE JONG ONE.... MAGUIRE IS AN ATTACKING CENTRE BACK RATHER THAN A STRONG AND FAST CENTRE BACK WHO WILL MAKE THOSE PASSES.... SCOTT IS THE FALSE 9 OR 10 YOU SHOULD USE AND NOT THE MIDFIELDER WHO WILL PASS AND KEEP THE BALL PROPERLY.... VERY FEW PLAYERS ACTUALLY SUIT WHAT AN ATTACKING MANAGER WOULD WANT TO PLAY AT UNITED CURRENTLY!!!! BUT INEOS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE MOST CORRECT THINGS SINCE THEY ARRIVED ACTUALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE FIRST GOING TO DECIDE THE WAY UNITED WILL PLAY GOING FORWARD AND NOT A MIXTURE OF EVERYTHING PROBABLY.... AFTER THAT WE CAN GET/REMOVE THE PLAYERS FOR THE TASK NEEDED TO DO!!!! Eg. A Winger who will play POSSESSION BASED AND CROSS IT INTO A PLAYER HE KNOWS WILL BE THERE WHEN HE PASSES THE BALL THERE... AND THE SUBSTITUTE WOULD BE A LIKE TO LIKE PERSONALITY RATHER THAN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ONE....

@justinlevy274

Ай бұрын

@@user-zc2sz1os3j What players that we have are capable of controlling possession? We still have a mid block and counter squad but if ETH did that all this year everyone would complain about ole ball.

@justdavelewis

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I agree with you. There are only a handful of players who are good enough both physically and quality-wise. Whichever person is managing us, that has to change. But as you say though, EtH tactics require physical 1v1 duel winning monsters in all positions who are also technically proficient and intelligent. Basically he wants a Declan Rice or Van Dijk in every single position, and if you have that, I don't think you'd be required to play this crazy footy cos you'd have the best team in the world. Its not all EtH's fault, however he is consistently setting us up to fail with his choices and THAT is on him.

Damn, I listened carefully to your points. Funny, I came into this video being "just Eric Ten Hag in." But after listening to you, I came to "Just ETH out." I think your point about him not being able to adjust tactically mid game is important. Also, for the first time, I could see what you were saying about the players will begin to doubt his ability. Once that happens I think the team is rotten. I used to play midfield and one can only run so much and if you sense "others" are not meeting your output then you start to collapse. So, here is what I think now. If Ineos can find a coach that is available and who has proven tactical nous and a modicum of personality and not too old...they should go for it. But if this person is not available they should stick with ETH. Otherwise, thank you for your opinion. That was a good video and quite interesting. I learned a lot.

Squad dept is the major challenge ETH is facing in man utd.

@user-zc2sz1os3j

Ай бұрын

Not poor tactics?

@ashtonndlovu9470

Ай бұрын

He bought shxt players it's his fualt

@jithinkarikombil

Ай бұрын

No.. his favouritism is a bigger issue Amad deserves at least a chance while his home boy Antony gets too many chances! Drop rashford for a few matches as well

@nwoyevictor88

Ай бұрын

@@ashtonndlovu9470 he bought some shit players okay, were those his first option initially ? Last season with enough squad dept, we were solid . We went to 2 finals, knock out Barcelona from the eroupa when all odds was against United,even though we didn't win the cup, we were solid good

@nwoyevictor88

Ай бұрын

@@jithinkarikombil all these players you a mentioned need to be dropped yes but have you seen man UTD midfield, it fuckin lose.only Bruno and kobee and not do the job alone

Manchester United currently has the problem that self-confidence is lacking. The team is currently crumbling with every goal against them, as the result has been turned around in the last second several times now. This is not due to the trainer, but rather to the mental strength of the team. In my opinion, Ten Hag is the best coaching option, we urgently need a good transfer summer. 2 CBs, 1 LB, and 1 CDM. The gap between midfield and back four is due to the lack of trust in the speed of the CBs. The current players are obviously not suited to play the ETH system. Look at the games, when shaw and martinez are fit! Completely different!

@beeftestosterone5519

Ай бұрын

Not true, we still had the same issues tactically only better players available and while we had a few game winning streak we still conceded over 20 shots in all of these games and we could have lost most of em, we werent as bad but we still had HUGE issues.

Thank you for a truly honest opinion on it all. Especially pointing out how he’s brought youth through as that doesn’t seem to get mentioned by the likes of Luckhurst. I’ve personally been strong for Ten Hag in for a while, but that string of matches of Chelsea, Pool, Brentford, and Bournemouth really put me in the category of accepting that he may well get sacked…….if Nagelsmann would be the actual option (right now). For me, what keeps me as Ten Hag in for one more season is that keeping him will most likely lead towards the clear out we’ve badly needed. Even if it doesn’t work out, we will hopefully then have quicker, ball playing players to build from for what will hopefully be a progressive manager. I mostly don’t want to see Southgate or Potter happen as all I can see is a flashback to the Ole era. I don’t like the options this summer and making a hasty decision will only lead to more bad decisions like we’ve had for the last decade.

Simple, ETH might be a problem for the club now, but he is not the biggest, and should not be prioritized for solving at this moment. Give him another season, and let the club management decide next season.

@robinsonkamau9664

Ай бұрын

my thoughts exactly. He was good at ajax, there is no way that manager can fall off just like that in 2 seasons. The problem is our squad and board management.

Rashford isn’t playing for 10hag. He isn’t playing for anyone, not even himself. Shame.

I don't agree with several points but I appreciate the way this is put together and the tone, which is not the usual social media psychotherapy stuff. I don't agree on the defence issue - if you watch him in game, he is directing players to do things but they are struggling. The players have tried, I believe, but Dalot and Kambwala aside, of the available players it is an ask that is beyond them for various reasons. However, the fact is that on goals conceded the defence is 5/6th in the EPL and that has to be the ultimate measure. The really damaging issue has been attack, where goals scored is amongst the worst. I also note that in a previous episode you noted that every coach that has removed the support of a mid-low block, compact midfield has failed because the players can't cope. Anyway, reasonable minds can differ and, ultimately, I do agree that the arguments for ETH out do not trump those for stay. I just have a lot more confidence in him and a lot more willingness to take pain for 1-2 seasons for longer term gain.

Its a miracle where we are in the league and in another final with these players. Our fans and media can't accept we have bad players and seem to think because we are Manchester United we should just win automatically!!

Glad you said about the Mainoo and Garnancho subs being a good decision

I'm already more leaning towards ETH out. But I would love to see you make a video on how Sir Alex was able to extract more performance out of mediocre players or that how he was able to field 7 defenders and still beat Arsenal. I'm interested to see someone analyse how Sir Alex is able to achieve those feats when other managers like Moyes or ETH couldn't.

@foochuankean1120

Ай бұрын

intrinsic sense of “do your job”

Thank you AJ for a crisp analysis and balanced view! Personally, I’ve tipped over to the “Ten hag out” side

Keep him for now, proper clear out, good recruitment then see how it goes.

@thexperimenter88

Ай бұрын

Disagree, Ten Hag needs to go. The biggest tell is that there is no short passing, no touch and go between players. You don’t need world class players for that😊

@Yehxo

Ай бұрын

@@thexperimenter88 I see many short passes every game, not a big reason to want a manager gone but the style of play and results must improve massively next season.

@thexperimenter88

Ай бұрын

@@Yehxo we must be watching different games

@Yehxo

Ай бұрын

@@thexperimenter88 Yesterday’s game for example there were many short passes and touches from the back to attract pressure

@thexperimenter88

Ай бұрын

@@Yehxo I don’t count side ways passes. I am after passes thought the center of midfield where players are actively making runs to confuse their marker and then a few short passes in quick succession are made to break though the center of midfield. I have not seen that the whole season.

I think you should do more videos like this, its good to hear you opinion, great video 👍🏻

New hoodie. Very nice 👍

Good video AJ, I think you missed that his working with the squad who can’t play in dominant style what EtH want to play. About def. line: almost for all season he doesn’t have players who can be play with high line, it’s “ok” when you play with someone like Lisandro or Luke who’s aggressive and want to win ball higher on the pitch and other CB is not aggressive (but for good work for his system it’s needed), I think that’s why he have this stupid compromise with open midfield. Yes, he can adapt, but it’s second season, he’s need to implement his style of play into the squad, otherwise a lot of players who doesn’t fit for his system would like to stay in the team and demand better role for them, he already have the first season in this manner, that’s enough. And that happens not only in def. line, in every line, expecially LF in attack are death cause he’s usually use it to overload with combinations and all season MU doesn’t have proper LB for this, that’s cause a lot of problems to the attack, and all other problems and compromises(I think all MU this season are big compromise) make “his football” “not his football”, and it’s just doesn’t work, and EtH can be good in this. Quality of players another big theme, I think we have a lot of players in the squad who aren’t good enough to be even in first six team in EPL regular starters. How the drop the matches regularly even under other managers in every second season I think we all saw that. who I think you didn’t mention who improved under EtH: Maguire (not a meme), Lindelof(when RCB really good rotation player), Mctominay(basically + sometimes do a good turns and even sometimes play in combinations), Bruno(improved in position based football), Wan Bissaka(in attack on the RF), other in my opinion too but not too obvious like this players, and in some cases it’s not his fault (Sancho, Amrabat, Mount).

Well said

9:20 We couldn’t react due to nobody being on the bench!!!! I remember last season we were commending him on his ability to change games from the bench.

Ten hag deserves time. Too often we've kept throwing projects out of the window and changed managers without actually giving them time to fix things. With proper backing from the board, he can bring us success.

How is Thiago Motta doing it in Bologna? You see clear structure and organisation, you just know that the players are low quality technically but you can see the footprints of the coach and see where they are, how about Alonso at Leverkusen

Good vid AJ, fair and factual

Exactly the same. There must be a thought process between the disconnected press e.g. he wants his front five to continue playing that way so he can shift the line up when Martinez comes back in alongside Varane, or he recruits and he can move the back line up, but other than that, his tactics defy logic.

I agree. All the other managers who got the sack at United the majority of the fans agreed with the sackings. Ten hag I feel has support and also it feels like we will turn a corner.

I really like your analysis. Ten Hag was so good at Ajax, yet he is making those unfortunate decisions at United. These players can not be that bad. They are costing the team millions of pounds on a weekly basis. TenHag's transfers have been failures. Even the Coventry coach made better game time decisions. He has to be replaced now. Waiting for the summer might be too late to salvage next season. Even if the next coach plays a boring brand of football, it does not matter. The wins count a lot more. With the squad we have, we should be producing better results.

All negatives are short term issues and all Positives are fundamentally good points for long term

Got to stay in!!!! ...

I agree with the in game management and tactics point you make but with the squad we have what else can we do?

Objectively, is a bigger risk to keep than to sack. The hope is for next season, what it might be, but most of the players will be here next season as well.

The injuries is an excuse. We have had senior first team players play most matches this season. The only position where we've been short is left back and we signed Reguilon to cover at left back then United decided not to keep him in January. Plus Dalot has always been able to play left back.

Being good at the first season is really bad, because expections.

More videos like this

AJ, what were ETH's mid-game tactics like at Ajax? Could there be the same theory about exposing players?

we dont have the squad to adapt to the adaptations that the opposition does and I tend to think that we as fans should reserve judgement , give him players , give him a proper structure and if he fails to deliver move him on , I for one think he might not be the guy to get us winning the champions league or the premier league title but at minimum I think he can be instrumental in helping modernize the way we play , the types of players we sign ; I do hope tho he can win at least one majour trophy and he is given the trust he deserves from the board for at least one more season , keep in mind we dont always get the full story of whats going on behind the scenes at OT and Carrington so who knows what other things he's had to deal with so far in his tenure , he needs stability so he can work on building his vision

I have a mixed feeling about him, but sacking manager after just 2 years means we're just doing the same thing over the past 12 years. I think we should give 1 more season, hopefully he will do much better with the new board and directors.

Even with his Ajax team he went out to Spurs in the CL semi final and was 4-1 up against a Chelsea team who came back. This isn’t new with ETH

@royalladin5276

Ай бұрын

That may well be the case. But he beat Real Madrid and Juventus from beaten positions and gave a much better Bayern Munich than Arsenal played against a run for their money. Dortmund were sent from pillar to post twice after the best players left Ajax.

another consideration will be just how far behind the process they are, if they do plan on replacing him. you don't want them to be picking up managers who have failed in other landing spots that have stood open for longer, such as bayern munich, liverpool and maybe even chelsea. and with candidates like nagelsmann and inzaghi and motta and alonso already off the board.

Remember at Ajax ten hag had bare youth players that take him to the champions league semi-finals

I am excited for next season. New signings, New kit, fresh start and New structure

@ashtonndlovu9470

Ай бұрын

Have you seen ten hags buying and selling habits , it's shxt mate

@hariantowijaya1937

Ай бұрын

and new manager

one more year with ineos and fully fit player for ten hag for me.

We only seem to play well when the opposition allows us to. As soon as they take the game to us we crumble. The Coventry game was the best example of this. I'm on the fence with ETH. I still believe we haven't seen the best of him, and he's better than what we've seen so far, and without a doubt, his Ajax period was proof of this. Even his last season there, he finished the Champs League group stage with a 100 percent record. What i dont understand is how and why he's struggling so much to translate his idea of football on the pitch here. It's beyond bad if we're being honest. My biggest worry, though, is that players like Kobbie, Garnacho, and Hoijlund will regress if the poor football is not addressed because these guys are meant to be the future of the club

maguire and mctominay have definitely improved. not sure if it's down to ten hag's man management or tactical changes which seem to make more room for a player like mctominay specifically. on the other hand, mainoo and garnacho have obviously been incredible but one could totally argue that their progress as players has simply been their natural development and would've come about with any manager willing to give them game time. ten hag comments about his role in creating monetary value in interviews (a value that ratcliffe doesn't seem to care about, and ten hag has made continuous positive comments about him), and i'm beginning to think that what he means by this is raising the transfer value of individual players. he has given a bunch of players who one wouldn't normally fit into his tactical philosophy moments which have seen them receive praise over the course of tactical and personnel changes (rashford, lindelof, martial, wan-bissaka). i think in his mind, he's been working towards a ffp-safe squad overhaul this summer now that many players have shown their strengths and gotten interest from other clubs (rashford and psg, wan-bissaka and inter, maguire and west ham), and the first season was meant to kind of show the public that if you stick with him through his rebuild, these kind of results and better will be the ones that we will be receiving. no doubt many of his tactics have been awful and a lot of his management has been pretty stupid, but its inarguable that the squad wasn't built by mourinho and ole with a high pressing, possession based style in mind. whenever we see more squad players flipped for any kind of decent value, we will start to see a different playstyle with less high-intensity sprints and therefore less injuries as a result! at least, that's what i hope lol

Roberto De Zerbi is the man

Any real football fans will know it's the players as it's happened with every other manager and there's no way all of them have said "don't run, don't track, don't stay in position,don't tackle, don't cross, pass it sideways, wingers don't take men on , and eventually one of you get a special goal, go get em boys your Manchester United" it's our players

depends on the alternatives, right?

My only problem with Ten Hag are the substitutions he make. Why does he keep playing Rashford when he's bad? Why substitute Hojlund off in games when he is the only forward along with Bruno who can press the opponents defense for 90 minutes? Like some of the subs that Ten Hag makes in games are very questionable

We have had 60 plus injuries before think its 2021/22 season and it was not even Ten Hag. Its uniteds medical team and training facilities we need to reassess

And ok on his tactics what is he supposed to do!? I mean really would love a video on this. Should we sit back at home as we cant push all forward? Should we risk pushing all forward with whats available? Should we look to pass like man city with are technical ability? Personally i think he knows he cant sit back but cant push all way up cant play through the lines so he trys to win it high an limit the shot quality the other end. I think the players ability an work ethic really hamper him. An iam not so sure all players are working as hard as they can maybe not consciously but they like the blame game!

I think you already know the answer, it’s the defense. They don’t trust their defense. Plus, the defensive players are not confident on the ball, therefore, Onana is instructed to pass the ball long.

AJ analysis is on the money. As are a few other tactical channels. It’s fairly simple but ETH and his coaches cannot seem to implement a winning playing style. Maybe this is a transition year and fruit will start to bear next season. It’s too messy though.

Ten Hag made loads of tiny in game tweaks last season - remember you covering them like swapping erikson and casemiro from right to left to make opposition have to work out how to respond etc It's so confusing all round - is he just playing a style that he thinks we should play long-term and the players either sink or swim, as does he?

@willo1655

Ай бұрын

I think so. Last season when we went to playing a low block we played better as a team. Bruno, Rashford, and even Scott play well when they counter. Ask them to actually hold the ball and play with possession they suddenly become bang average players.

@justinlevy274

Ай бұрын

The squad composition is in transition and so is the style of play, some players suited to high press, some to mid block, the tactics flow from this fact. I would've been more practical and switched to mid block and counter with all the injuries but the team was going to need growing pains at some point.

@willo1655

Ай бұрын

@justinlevy274 I think man is just fed up of "protecting" the players and wants to know who to keep and who to offload.

@justinlevy274

Ай бұрын

@@willo1655 I think this is largely true although he still tries to protect the backline by playing it deeper. But he probably already knows he wants to swap out his cbs.

If real change is to happen, we need to change players before coach.

I like how you touched on the Garnacho and Mainoo substitutions. People are extremely reactionary. I think if you're going to consider all factors, you should include how excellent his game management was last season. We had the highest goals scored by substitutions. He was able to make tactical switches easily in his games. But what's the difference this season? The countless injuries he's had to deal with. Look at players like AWB, McTominay, Evan, Maguire etc, these guys didn't even play last season because they weren't his first choice. Do you think they are capable of tactical flexibility like Martinez/Varane/Eriksen? Gotta let emotions move to the side and think logically about this.

Since Sir Alex quit, the club has been in a vicious circle.....when United sack EtH we will remain in this vicious circle. This circle must be broken and that is why EtH must continue to prove itself with new players and the deadwood must go such as Martial, Shaw, Eriksen, Casemiro, Varane, Lindelöf, Maquire, Evans, Antony and especially Rashford! We must trust the process

If ETH finishes 7th with this team, he will be double the manager than Moyes, who finished 7th with the much better squad. Ten Hag IN for me, as Pepe couldn't get this current team going. Next guy might struggle to get us back in the top 4 too.

I would argue that with a low defensive line is because of the type of center backs ten Hag has. Maguire isn’t capable of playing the high pressing system for example

The most shocking revelation is Casemiro's legs. Last year he was industrial ever present and sheer luxury. Yesterday was the nail in the coffin I think he's actually slower than Maguire? So many balls he was beaten to or run past.

Arteta and Pep play Advance chess while Ten Hag plays Intermediate checkers. It is easier for you to dominate in a Dutch league where your only expectation is winning the league. United is bigger than that.

I agree with most of the stuff, but I would debate some negatives. Tactics - you really cannot make a lot of tactical twitches with players having certain habits and instincts. Example, Arsenal transformed with Kai and Rice. We do not have those players that can change the style of our play. But he did good against Liverpool and similar games where he intentionally created chaos to help players maximize their potential. Injuries - I really doubt that his style or training intensity is the problem. For example - Regulion was returned from a loan because the medical team guaranteed that Shaw and Malacia would be fit in January. Casemiro was wrongly diagnosed twice and had to seek additional opinions outside of the club. So I really don't think it's the intensity. Playing style can be the cause, but some teams are much more aggressive and open (Lpool for example), so I would blame poor character scouting through the years among the other reasons.

So, the anti-ETH squad wants to let playerpower win,again! you have all seen this before, but hey, lets do the same stupid shit again.

@renardocarty3140

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@ShawnGitahi

Ай бұрын

Exactly to what,did Antony,amrabat,mount,hojlund get rid of other managers coz they,ve not been playing well

@highdefinitionstanleytm9614

Ай бұрын

Keep the Goat Ten Hag he is comedy gold and allways makes my day.

My desire to have a hipster coach(eg eth, rdz, potter,julian,poch,etc) died a slow painful death a long time ago. I've accepted that at the heart of it. we're a legacy club & managers who are a bit pragmatic, tactially brilliant & plays a/c to the strengths of the squad suit us more. Hence , for a long time now I've wanted managers in that mould- Ancelotti( highly unlikely) Mourinho( never wanted him gone, want him to complete his story at utd but I know the outrage it'll cause& hence not suitable) Emery( my preferred choice) Tuchel( 2nd preference) S.inghazi( far fetched) D.Simeone( like his changed approach tactically) Valverde( don't think he is coaching anymore) One thing that pragmatic managers certainly bring with them is refusing to lower the standards & letting players rule the roost. I just want man utd to get back to winning ways, old trafford to be a fortress , lower teams to take us seriously & to not have hope that they can win against us. Just want to see our reputation restored. Anyways , in all seriousness we should let ineos decide

Improved. Maguire, dalot, wan bissaka mctom mainoo garnacho rashford last season

He said himself that the football he played at Ajax was Ajax football and not necessarily Ten Hag football, we got to let this go, we all thought he was him, he is not anything we thought he was gonna be and we need to move on.

I think ten hag should leave Bcoz in my perspective , 'A good coach is make better results with the resources he have ' but ten hag is, he knows, everybody knows , the current man United players aren't suitable for this kind of high intensive football but still he keep doing the same thing And we can't completely blame on ten hag either, a major cleansing must be needed on man utd players

Erik ten Hag IN

His persistence with inverted wingers, lack of efficient offensive tactics, and as you mention, consistent lack of reaction to how the game develops decided it for me

great video! I think with the rumored interest in tuchel, a video on tuchel, his tactics and how he could set up united would be wise

I beg to disagree, not all the players are playing for the fans or manager. What i agree with you is that the young players are flourishing under his rein . What i blame ten hag for is the stubbornness in continuing with rashford and I sincerely hope that rashford is injured for the rest of the season along with mctominay. The majority of the players are and will never be good enough

I actually do not fancy this excuse of injuries and so on and so far other managers had injuries I think it's down to the system and actually not the person now I know sometimes individual qualities and brilliance can win you a game.. but primarily it has to be the tactical insights and their awareness of the manager that is supposed to win on the game and not the individual brilliance

I'd give ETH another year. Not sure who out there is honestly better.

As we know he took off Garnacho and Manoo... I my opinion it was not right because we didn't have full back as preferred

In…. Another season…. This was always the plan… once we get into next season then the team should be his own…. This season has shown though, Fernandez & rashford aren’t good enough. We need another full defence and a couple of central midfielders… Greenwood needs to come home too..

If United was playing this bad with a full squad i woke be pro ETH out but i don’t think it’s justified to forget what he done last season. Players like awb, Casemiro and Rashford give away ball for fun. I don’t think eth instructed them to do that

Firstly, the injury problem is the underlying issue. Review who and what in the club are responsible for the situation, and change that immediately. Secondly, in terms of tactics, EtH is stubborn and not adaptable. He failed to manage the injuries, is awful in tactics, can't tweak during games, and makes poor decisions. In my opinion, he was the same EtH at Ajax but with good structure and support, his weaknesses were not apparent. So, he is not good enough.

As if the injuries are not down to his tactics in the first place!

ETH in

Ajax under EtH destroyed Juventus and Madrid. I believe in ten Hag, not because I'm dutch. He's a fantastic coach/manager, it's the players he inherited are not good enough. If they get rid of ten Hag, he'd have the chance to take over our national team job from Koeman.

@OtherSideOfMorning

Ай бұрын

And spurs come back from being 3 - 0 behind. Sound familiar?

Rashford and a few others aren't playing for him and basically we are playing with 8/9 men giving a 100% and the others not bothered

the players simply failed to adapt to the demands of Ten Hag's tactics , spare a few. I'm still hopeful that if we have a good summer transfer window we could see a competent United under Ten Hag

@hariantowijaya1937

Ай бұрын

he had two summer transfer window already, bought a lot of players

I don't know what I want yet , I want him OUT but at same time I want him IN.

11:58 if the manager looses the dressing room, idt there is a comeback

Just in ,let him starting from along the new mangers and see with the right players in defend new left back new central defender and right back and defend midtfielder And one9 to competition for Højlund and find out why all Thise injuries happen Then i Think it Will see more bright out future Just look Arsenal the first 3-4 year under Mikael arteta it look avfoul in first 3-4 year before it turn around

Give the Coventry player under ten haag..😂 u'll see how well they executed his plan

Wingers running back all game?? Ive never seen Rashford run back ever!

AJ, you give his tactics 2/10, you are not convinced by his in-game management and you are still ETH in? Based on what? 🤔

He was backed unlike Jose or LVG. The team is not performing because of application. the press isn't very good, maldini and nesta would not keep a clean sheet for ten Hag. Ten hag has a hand in a lot of the issues this team is facing. we cannot clear out 15 players in 1 window. a Managerial change is always positive in the short term. we could have salvaged this season if we acted earlier. By his own account, ten hag has said he won't play the football we saw at Ajax. that's very discouraging.

Difficult for you to use his Ajax stint as an example of positivity considering ETH said he wasn't even hired to play like that. Injuries are also a bullshit excuse. If an employee burns his hand on the grill Thursday night, I still expect my food to taste the same on Friday. It doesn't matter who is on the grill the standards and procedures remain the fucking same

@SonNguyen-kx9vo

Ай бұрын

You sir would need to change the restaurant because here all the chefs are burnt 😂

ETH in!!!!

I backed him all season but at some point he has to take resppnsibility. Blaming injuries all season when u have major structural and tactical issues that have been unadressed all season is embarassing. We have a completely disfunctional press that even coventry were able to expose only worsened by adding a deep line to it which is just a setup for disaster - if u argue we dont have the players ask urself why do we still keep playing it then, either press high and commit to a highline or leave the press We have basically no rest defense because of that which makes us arguably the worst side at defensive transitions in the entire league supported by the fact that we concede 20 shots every game no matter who we play and dont come at me with "they are low % shots" because someone makes a last second block, thats not a sustainable way of playing if u wanna win anything as seen against coventry and the amount of bs deflections we keep conceding Offensively we have improved from the start of the season but still we creat basically no chances for our striker and we have barely any visible attacking patterns, most our goals come from unforced errors which again is a setup for disaster cause when the opppnent isnt gifting us the goals we barely score, take for example bournmouth, first goal they fail to clear the ball amd just leave bruno in acres inside the box and second goal they give away a stupid pen, we score 2 goals which easily could have been non while we could have concedes about 4 or 5 more Eth keeps playing abysmal performing players in rashfors and casemiro while amrabat and amad warm the bench, why is casemiro starting every game when he is 1. Put into system that exposes him 2. Not able to perform his role He has been awful on the ball and cant defend cause ppl jus trun by him, why is he still starting in that role, either play someone else or put him in a dif position (f.e cb) or change the structure, if u argur casemiro is just not good enough then why the fuck does he start every week, amrabat surely cant be worse, he is a much better passer and at least has the legs to run across the pitch, casemiro offers NOTHING except aerial threat and the occasional long ball in behind in our current system yet starts every game. I could go on and on but the fact is, while the llayers are surely the main issues and we need probably 70-80% of the swuad replaced, the overarching issues that ten hags disfunctional system brought cant be ignored yet somehow he trys to gaslight everyone there is progress and that we are playing well, either he is delusional or lying when he says that cause everyone else knows how bad we are.

ETH inherited a terrible foundation to build on but he did get a chance to bring in a couple of his own players, However League Cup aside it feels that results and performances under him are worse than OGS. Plus OGS did the treble over Pep. If tiring out players in training is part of a long term plan then unless he can convince SJR he will be out as he is failing to convince the fans. A good manager should galvanise and improve the players already there (look at Villa). Having two scorers against Cov that most fans want to see leave and a third from an underperforming captain. Also, the winning penalty was scored by a player who still does not seem to have the support of playing system and is fighting for scraps. Not good management.

@jgmediting7770

Ай бұрын

Fans are dumb, have unrealistic expectations, and have a fraction of information

I disagree with you about the negative things about Ten Hag. A great Dutch former footballer Johan Cruyff said once. If we have the ball and keep it, they cannot score. And that is precisely one of the big problems of this United. the players cannot even play properly from A to B. Is that because of Erik? The players refuse to honor the agreements made on the field. No, friend, you protect the players too much.

He DOES NOT want to play like he did at Ajax. He wants to play chaotic, transitional football. Ten Hag out.

Highest winning% of any United manager as well I believe. "How many players gotten better" - who cares if they're not academy products. It's United and prwm, not a development program. But yes awful tactics with these players, no adjustments and favoring underperforming players all negative. Ten in until players gone.

Anyone making arguments to keep ten hag because of anything he did at Ajax is deluded. Ten hag has said that he will never play any Ajax style at MUFC. He’s trying to play a style that is not working and he keeps doing it and blaming injuries. Sack him already

EVERYONE KEEP SAYING THESE INJURIES ARE DUE TO TRAINING INTENSITY, BUT THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE, ITS INTENSE ALL SEASON SO THESE PLAYERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM AT A HIGH LEVEL WEEK IN WEEK OUT JUST LIKE MANCHESTER CITY, THESE PLAYERS ARE NOT PHYSICAL ENOUGH, THEY ARE SOFTIES, DO YOU REMEMBER CARRICK AND VIDIC AND FERDINAND, KEANE, THEY WEREAGGRESSIVE, AND THEN NO ONE NOTICED THE WAY OTHER TEAMS TACKLE UNITED PLAYERS, OTHER PLAYERS RUSH THEM HARD, SOMETIMES IT SEEMS THE OPONENTS DELIBERATELY TRY TO INJURED THE PLAYERS, BUT THATS BECAUSE UNITED PLAYERS ARE SOFT AND NOT AS AGGRESSIVE SO OPONENTS DONT FEAR THEM, UNTIL UNITED PLAYERS BECOMES AGGRESSIVE, THEY WILL BE LOADS OF INJURIES AND THATS A FACT, THE PLAYERS NEED TO STEP UP.