Love how you added animation and pictures to explain your set up. Nice home theater you got there.

This is hands down some of the best content I've ever seen on KZread regardless of subject matter. I'm not really into DIY wood working and the like, but am planning a HT room. Thanks so much for this. Hope you are doing well!

The amount of time, and effort you put in this video is astounding. Definitely subbing. Very informational. Can’t wait to see the end product

One of the best home theater videos i have seen.

Man, that is a great HT room. The graphics in your video , info, and editing are awesome as well!

The Most comprehensive, yet the best home theater design/setup that I have found on KZread, Great Job 👍

awesome video

Looks like there hasn’t been much in the way of updated room tours since this video. Definitely curious to see a new complete upgraded room/equipment tour.

thank you very much for give the measurements in metric too!

First HT video I've watched that talks about sound proofing. Nice!

Kurt! You're killin it brother. I literally I understand everything that you lived here and I appreciate your mad attention to detail. You've definitely got the audiophile fever. Keep it up bro. Subbed.

Great build mate, cheers for sharing it. Nicve video, I'm in the middle of my own so, given me food for thought!

Subbed. Your channel is awesome, can't wait to see the update videos and especially the DIY speaker. I'm currently building a small home theater x home studio too .. so these kind of videos are extremly helpful. ❤ Keep up the nice editing, totally appreciate it. 😅

great video sir....have no words for your ......awesome creativity very nice editing also......and that graphical representation is also very very nice

Nice home theater, great video!

Great video. Thanks for sharing!

Great video

wow its fantastic already great job

What an awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

Great theater setup! Great work on your video!

Excellent HT build video. Love the diagrams. Helping us should be want to tackle something similar. Well done! Looking fwd to an audio/video demo..

nice video and cool looking room! I'm doing some DIYSG speakers here soon. Can't wait!

This is a awesome design for a home theater. I'm late to the video but I hope you have upgrade to 4k hdr by now. It look great in my home theater.

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I am still rocking the original Panasonic HD projector for the moment -- movies still look fantastic with it. My thinking was that I'd wait until I had to replace the bulb on the Panasonic and instead of doing so, get a 4k HDR projector. My assumption is that the features/price would finally be in a reasonable equilibrium by that point. I'll say that this latest round of projectors (especially from JVC) are making that assumption a pretty safe one!

@ljwhatup

4 жыл бұрын

@@granworks I looked at the JVC and it was too expensive for my budget. I went with the Epson 6050ub and i dont regret making that decision.. Its the only projector that will give you a picture on that level with Sony or JVC and not break the budget. I know its not native but it produces a amazing picture quality in 4k. I wanted a good sound system and I went with Klipsch reference premier series. I had to cut projector budget for the surround sound.

Been waiting for this walk-through........ thanks.......

Subscribed... The enormous amount of GOOD envy I have right now is insane... Very nice... This is my goal in the near future :)... Keep the videos coming.

Very nice looking theater.😊

In that thread, you put that your ceiling is 8' before soundproofing and 8' 3" after. How's that even possible when the other measurements are lower? To confirm, is that the measured height inside the room? Also, you noted your screen was 138" 16:9. Does that include the screen's ~3-4" border? I've been trying to pick the right size screen for my basement home theater and my biggest concern is with reclining. If blankets and feet get in the way of the screen, then the screen's probably too big, and I messed up. Curious how your setup performs. Even with that ceiling height, the room seems a lot taller and the chairs lower.

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

The finished ceiling height 8'. It looks like 8' 3" was an early estimate of the final height. Since I was going to remove the original ceiling joists, that gave me the opportunity to raise the ceiling height to whatever I wanted (within reason). In the end, I decided on raising them to 8' 1-1/2" so that when I added my two layers of 5/8" drywall plus thin carpet on the floor, I'd have a final finished height of 8'. I'm not sure that I remember even why I was thinking 8' 3" in the first place... And that's the actual size of the screen. My screen is DIY-made so it doesn't technically have any border at all. The black parts surrounding it are part of the wall more then they are part of the screen. To get my final screen size and height from floor, I actually spent quite a bit of time in Sketchup playing with viewing angles. I wanted to ensure that every seat had a full and complete view of the screen no matter where they were. I also wanted to be able to guarantee seeing MOST of the screen even when fully reclined. It turns out that I do end up watching most movies while fully reclined (head propped up with a pillow) and that screen size with that distance from the first row is more than fine. I can technically see the top of my feet intruding into the bottom of the screen... but they kind of disappear after awhile, similar to how you usually don't notice your nose even though it is always in your line of sight. I'm completely happy with that screen size and wouldn't want it smaller for any reason.

Fantastic

Yo what's up man? Very nice room. I love how you took the steps into soundproofing. I wanted to do all that but my small room would been to small after doing that extra wall build with air gap but I did use to layers of sheetrock with green glue. I'm really interested in more content about the riser that acts like a gigantic bass trap because I cant put any corner traps in my corners of room. I did build a subfloor because garages tend to be on an angle and I wanted a flat surface. I wonder if I can turn that into a bass trap it's already filled with insulation. I got to check out your avs forum post. I'm also going to check out your older videos on your ripped files stuff. I'm interested to find out how to do that so I don't have to always use physical disk. I'm going to hit the subscribe button so I get your newest content. Thanks for making this video. You did a great job on it.

@granworks

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The entire subject of bass traps using existing structures like risers is INSANELY complicated! If you want to get a taste for some of the subtleties, then start reading here: www.avsforum.com/forum/19-dedicated-theater-design-construction/1527200-risers-101-a-2.html#post28358002 and read at least the next 50-odd posts.

Amazing build. A nice room like this needs a pair of klipsch RF-7III speakers

Wow i love it

@mkshowtvlove3x

5 жыл бұрын

Be my friends?

It´s almost as you have done the same room as i have done with room-in-room, dual heavy doors, diy speakers, acoustical treatment. :-)

I’m surprised you used an AVR for your cinema room as you spent all that money doing it I’m surprised you would comprise on sound quality.

@BrianGarside

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. This Theater should go all separates given the investment already.

It's an excellent home theater set up.. but i wish you have an actual demo of how it is like when already playing and viewing a movie.. try doing a video with actual test.

@granworks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I did consider including a demo, but I'm not sure what that would accomplish. What's remarkable about my theater is how immersive the experience is - how much the screen fills your vision; how completely the surround sound envelops you; how deep you feel the bass... and none of that can be captured by any camera or microphone and even if it could, it would be impossible to experience the result in any form other than watching it in my theater. Just showing the room getting dark and then a movie starting would be only as impactful as the phone, headphones, speakers, or computer that the viewer is watching the video would allow...

You should paint the walls darker/black as well

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

The walls and ceiling will eventually be completely covered with _something_ -- the grey is just primer.

I build theaters professionally and I'm giving huge props on this job !!! awesome !! side notes >> I've never run conduit and don't know why you did ? >> M+K is killer I love them !! >> leaving stickers on front of gear is pinning my OCD on eleven :-) again, great job !!

@poserwanabe

5 жыл бұрын

also, I was reading down below some guys talking about DIYSG, I checked it out and I think they're on to some really nice diy speakers for sure !!

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I run conduit as a future proofing measure. That is, I'm running HDMI to my projector now, but maybe in the future I'll actually need some kind of fiber optic cable or similar -- with conduit, switching out the cable is trivial. It's definitely more work up front, but it has the _potential_ to decrease work in the future. And if it's never used in the future? Well, no harm done. I hear that with the stickers. When I fully deck out my equipment closet, then everything gets cleaned up, and that includes the stickers. Regarding your later comment in DIYSG -- yep, they are definitely high up on my list when I make my speakers. I showed a couple of potential designs kind of floating by in my video. Honestly, the leading contender to the DIYSG options is for me to design my own speakers completely from scratch, since that's kind of my style.

@poserwanabe

5 жыл бұрын

@@granworks hahahaha nice !! I hope none of my customers read this 😎

@odincoulombe706

5 жыл бұрын

I build my own speakers also,as the insane price gouging leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I found a great site for DIY speakers. Madisound is the name. Ive built 3 styles so far using seas drivers. 1st one is an IDUNN style with upgraded drivers from seas(the magnesium cone) I use those for the left and right,and i use an ODIN speaker for the center. The Idunn is TW style the Odin is WTW style. These kits are not cheap and you have to build your own cabinets,but when your done you have speakers worth 5 to 10 times what you pay for the parts,going by the insane markup of speakers. It cost me 1100 in total for one ODIN speaker,that includes the material i used for the cabinet and cabinet finish. That speaker in the real world made as i did would cost some poor sucker 5000 to 10,000 Build your own sick speakers man,,mine sound like no speakers ive ever heard before....@@granworks

@porsche911luv9

5 жыл бұрын

If installing conduit is an option it’s a very good idea to do so

Amazing video!! When you said the remote also controlled the nest, do you have a separate zone of A/C just for the basement with it’s own thermostat? Or is it something alone the lines of remote controlled dampeners to close the vents? Thanks for the awesome tour!

@granworks

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, my theater has its own zone. The Nest is hooked up to a Honeywell TrueZONE panel, which activates the proper dampers when necessary. The HVAC setup of my theater is one of the few things that I farmed out.

Great video and looking forward to future updates. I hope you can include a video on the wiring of the Theater room such as how many circuits you used and if had to run any dedicated circuits for equipment and the seating? I'm planning on building my dream Theater room in a few months and kind of wondering about wiring everything up without tripping breakers. My plan is for a 7.2.4 system.

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

I have been considering doing a series of "throwback" videos showing how I did certain parts of the theater in detail. It would be mostly a slide-show style video, though, since I don't have a lot of real video from when I was doing the primary theater build. Maybe still worth it? In general, though, I have one 15 amp circuit dedicated to my theater. It goes to my equipment closet to power the equipment there. There's also an air-gapped connection from there into the theater, which may eventually be filtered through a power conditioner and is now going through a surge suppressor. 15 amps should be ample for everything I throw at it. Here's the post in my build thread where I show what that wiring looks like in the closet: www.avsforum.com/forum/19-dedicated-theater-design-construction/1508600-phoenix-theater-build-thread-3.html#post28822146

@gadgetguy5871

5 жыл бұрын

@@granworks thanks for the info. I'll be watching your page for future videos. You been very helpful with what you provided here. Thanks again.

Maaan you must have a LOT of free time. I'm tired already too. You want to make all the speakers? Ffs man just chill. The spandex screen is really ok for 4k because it is so smooth, but I don't know about hdr where light output is key. Have fun!

OMG i will have almost the same size room if i remove 1 wall. I wanna build something exactly like yours. I will keep this video for when i start building mine ! I would put a material or something that sucks all the light possible!

Nice room

I've heard of using a mirror placed on sides of the wall and sitting down in your listening position when you see the speaker left or right depending on what wall you start on...you can determine where you would need your treatments...have you heard of this method?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, that's essentially the first step in any acoustic treatment plan. What that does is show where the first reflection location is for a given seat and a specific speaker. This works because sound reflects off a surface such that the angle of incidence equals the angle of reflection. Handily, light works the same way in a mirror... so if the light rays coming from the speaker are visible to you, then that means that sound coming from that speaker will also reflect at that specific point. There is a "first reflection" for every speaker to every seat on every surface. The surfaces are the left wall; right wall; ceiling; floor; front wall; and back wall. So if I'm finding those reflection points for my three front speakers and want to optimize for all seven seats, I would have to find 126 separate points! That's massive overkill, of course. Not all first reflections matter as much as others and, honestly, second and third reflections become more of a problem than some of those first reflections. This is all FAR beyond the scope of a KZread comment. I ended up throwing up an absorption panel on the first reflection on the left and right walls for the primary seat (mine) and called it a day. Oh, and I used SketchUp to find the points rather than a mirror since angles are so easy to work with there.

@vestel777

4 жыл бұрын

@@granworks What's the size of the Screen? 150'' or 170''??? I would Love to have one that's at least 180'' to 200'' Fixed Frame Movie Screen that's ALR which is Ambient Light Rejecting. Plus a 4K Movie Projector that could be a Laser Projector.

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

@@vestel777 The screen is exactly 10' or 120" wide (138" diag). That's almost to the limits of how big a screen I could fit in the room, based on the room width and height.

Nice and looks very professional... do you have videos on how the spandex performs ?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. And no, not yet.

Very useful video. What is your front row distance from the screen?

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. The distance from my eyes in the front row to the screen is 10'-6"

@numanali4945

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro.

Great setup so far please add Xbox One S PS4 Nvidia Shield TV that way it could really rule!

Would love to see videos on your diy speakers your going to build.

@granworks

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's definitely going to happen and it will be thoroughly documented on this channel. But... based on other responsibilities, it might not be for as long as a year before that happens!

@jasonsullivan8001

6 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. I bet some 1099 and Dayton audio 18"ultimax subs would sound great in your room.

You're awesome!!!

Why is the centre speaker horizontal? Since it's a AT screen wouldn't you want all the front speakers perfectly aligned?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

The simple answer is just that M&K designed that speaker to be horizontal and so I installed it like they intended. When I (eventually) design and build my own speakers, they will all be vertically oriented.

very cool show this home theater room and its construction! I wonder what program you used to show the design would be 3D sketchup? a hug!

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, I used SketchUp for the design.

Very well executed project sir. Can I know the software used to design and show the simulation of your home theater. Reply will be helpful.Thank you.

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

I used SketchUp to model my theater.

@nimmamayur1028

5 жыл бұрын

@@granworks Thank you sir. I am 6 months away from doing a similar project at my home.

Great build. I love the large screen and the 2.35:1 aspect ratio you use. My only nitpick is your center channel. If you ever get the opportunity, you should put your center speaker Right Side UP. The "On its side" center channel configuration that's so popular was originally configured to fit underneath a television. Its a form over function design, that's sonically flawed. No matter what M&K tells you, that speaker will not be timbre matched to the L&R when its on its side. That said, keep up the good work.

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yeah, the configuration of my center channel is more an accident of history than anything else. I honestly didn't expect to be using the M&Ks for this long, as I originally assumed I'd build new LCRs by now.

Very cool...can't wait to see more! Do you wish you did anything different in the build so far? What type of bass are you trying to achieve in the room? DIY speakers could be wicked cool to see!

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, quite a few things I would do different if I was starting from scratch. That's always going to happen, though. As far as bass goes -- eventually I want enough of it that I will viscerally FEEL the LFE more than hear it. I want to be physically shaken. In fact, I MAY need to even go with seat transducers to get the final result, depending on where I end up being able to place my subs.

@sickjohnson

5 жыл бұрын

I like they way you think Mr. Grandworks. You definitely have one of the most advanced room designs especially with with respects to bass separation from the rest of the house.

excellent video,what is the dimensions of that theater?another question I'm building a home theater separate from my house, and all the walls are concrete,would have to use insulation being the walls of blocks?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Dimensions are roughly 21' x 13' x 8'. Concrete cinder blocks (the standard hollow ones) aren't great at sound proofing since they don't have a lot of mass. Solid concrete is excellent -- it's hard to get better without spending lots of money. You may not need any more sound proofing components, depending on how thick the walls are and what your requirements are. That said, you may want to have at least one layer of insulation anyway, as actual insulation -- concrete has terrible R-value. You will also need to acoustically treat your theater more than "usual" with solid concrete walls, since they will bounce back so much more sound energy than normal.

Nice work mate! I got seriously excited when I saw your spandex screen because I've been doing some research and want to give it a go also. But why do you think it may not be suitable for 4K projectors? Just curious. Once again thanks for posting this!

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

I'll certainly test out my screen when I do finally upgrade to a 4K projector, but my gut feeling is that the "grain" will be too pronounced and essentially hide the extra fine details. That is, if I get close enough to the screen, then I can see the grain of the threads -- as is, they are notably smaller than the pixel size of a 1080p projection. They may not be with 4K. Don't know!

You sir are insane 😂

Fantastic job on this video! Did you ever get the DIY speakers built?

@granworks

2 жыл бұрын

Alas, no. I'm still building a guest house and after that I'll likely be renovating the main house. So my DIY speakers are still likely 5 years out or so, since I want to do those right

@mfkhometheater7742

2 жыл бұрын

@@granworks I know the feeling, my job keeps me traveling so I'm lucky to get one or two days to work on the theater once every few weeks or sometimes months. I'm typing this in Munich while waiting for my connection to Dresden, I don't even have a flight schedule to get home to TX. All I can do on these trips is watch videos like yours and dream of the day that I have time to finish my theater. It might be after I retire in about three or four years. Of course I can draw up ideas while on the road but I can't really build anything.

Now I feel like watching Multiplicity

Hey, do u have any ideas or tips on making a stand for the front of the theatre where the screen is? Currently trying to think Of ideas to do

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by a "stand" that would go in the front of the theatre?

Still waiting.for the DIY speaker video.

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

You and me both! Alas, I'm building a house right now and that's taking up all of my time. So it'll likely be another year(!) before I get around to the speakers.

Why did you sound proof your room? neighbors?My room is in my basement i just did regular walls and floor.

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Kids, mostly. We had a smaller theater in our previous house that wasn't sound-proofed at all and all movies needed to stop when the kids went to bed. I wanted to be able to watch a movie at any volume I wanted and at any time I wanted, regardless if my kids were sleeping or not! The second reason is to acknowledge that sound-proofing works in both directions. I wanted to be able to watch even the quietest scenes without having to contend with ANY outside noise at all.

Ok this guy is not messing around.. 03:04

Why does the front row look like leather seats and the back are microfiber seats?

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

They were bought at different times. The four seats in the back are microsuede recliners from La-Z-Boy that I bought in 2003 for an earlier theater in a previous house. The three in front are newer leather power recliners from Costco, bought for this theater in 2014.

Nice room it’s well built and thought out for your layout, if you want to upgrade your mains and surrounds check out DIYSG and grab a few more subs to smooth out your bass response. Great video I’ll check you out in the forum

did you use Revit for this design concept? which program did you use? I'm curious

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

I used SketchUp. I wasn't familiar with Revit so I looked it up. Revit looks interesting, but wow -- very expensive. If I was starting out from scratch today, I'd consider using Fusion 360 since it's also free; is very powerful; and has a few features that SketchUp lacks. But since I have quite a bit of SketchUp experience, I just default to that for everything now.

nice torture room :P

Lol better than me. I bought a 20k projector and another 5k on an atmos processor and they are still in the boxes with a partially finished room.

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

That can be smart. One of the well known aphorisms in the theater building community is to never mount your projector until you are done, because once the projector is mounted, any further work will never happen! There's a lot of truth to that, in my experience. I worked continuously on my theater right up until I could watch a movie in it and then the pace dropped to negligible amounts...

@lordgarth1

5 жыл бұрын

granworks Good point!

When you start doing the DIY speakers, read this PDF from dolby: www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-atmos/dolby-atmos-specifications.pdf Especially on page 4!, Follow it if you want! ^_^.

Did your riser and stage touch the side walls?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Nope. There is at least a 1/2" gap all the way around, but covered on the top by the carpet.

@Stevo19801

5 жыл бұрын

granworks how did you secure them to the floor or are both the stage and riser free standing?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Both are free standing. The stage is filled with a couple tons of sand, though, so nothing short of an earthquake will make that move. The riser weighs quite a bit less... but still many hundreds of pounds plus the weight of the chairs. Those aren't going anywhere, either.

Looking good but someone already dislike this video 😮

Love the isolation, decoupling and insulation treatments. Personally I use Rockwell insulation and PartsExpress.com for the diy speaker building, parts and expert advise.

Got an update coming?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Alas, not anytime soon. I have an upcoming massive project (building a house) that will take most of the rest of the year (at least), so it will be awhile before I get back to my theater.

What changes are you making to the screen wall?

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

I probably won't be sure until I actually do it. Thoughts now range from just replacing the temporary panels with better ones (non-flammable fabric and magnets) to making a rigid wall maybe even with drawers under the screen for storage. Don't know yet.

@percybedford6266

5 жыл бұрын

@@granworks how is you current wall? Just have your speakers mounted and using panels to mount the screen in front of you front stage? I am trying to get ideas because I have an acoustic transparent screen, and I want to do a minimalist build.

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. The current wall has my LCR speakers mounted on the physical wall behind the screen. The 10'-wide screen makes up most of the screen wall. The remaining black sections are panels made up of simple frames created with 1x2 boards and landscape fabric. They are friction fitted. If you want to see even more details, then follow the link in the description to my AVS build thread and there's a link in the index for building the screen wall, with lots of pictures.

@percybedford6266

5 жыл бұрын

@@granworks thanks I will do that. I am a member of AVS forums so I will look at it.

Gaming room

Okay I'm officially in love with you, no homo.

how do you get oxygen in the room lol

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

Very good question! That was a big concern of mine when building it as air-tight as I did. I put off installing a dedicated ventilation stack to first see if the static volume of air in the room coupled with the intermixed fresh air from the dual-split air conditioning would be enough to keep the air from getting stale. So far, so good. It hasn't gotten stale even during an epic LotR marathon. But I do have longer-term plans of installing a mini-split in there. When that happens, there's a very good chance I'll have to install passive ventilation along side it.

What is cost of each chair

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

The three up front are from Costco and were bought as a set. They are roughly $600 each. The four in back are from La-Z-Boy and I got them 15 years ago -- I don't remember at all what those cost. Probably somewhere just north of $600, though.

Holy shit waaaayyy too much money and work for me just for sound proofing.....it’s like 3 rooms in one ...f that, I used 2x6 studs rockwool insulation and 1/2” drywall, done..... my next-door neighbor is a half a mile away

@granworks

4 жыл бұрын

Heh, yeah, most sane people wouldn't go to the same extreme level that I went through for the dramatically diminishing gains. But it is worth noting that I didn't care about my neighbors very much at all. In fact, the extreme sound-proofing is for two specific reasons. The first is that sound goes both ways. If sound-proofing can keep sound in, then it can also keep sound out. My house can get notably noisy at times and I wanted to be able to watch a movie with even super quiet scenes regardless of what cacophony was happening in the rest of the house. But the second main reason is because my kids go to bed before I watch the loudest and most violent movies and I don't want any of that sound to be waking them or keeping them awake. Literally one of the most important tests I did during construction was to take my decibel meter in my kids' rooms and measure how loud a super loud movie was from there. I'm happy to say that sound levels needed to be in the painful range before they were audible in my kids' rooms!

It kills me that you're doing all this work for a 1080p projector.

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Heh. I assure you that movies look fantastic even with a measly 1080p projector! I could probably see the pixel difference what with my 10' wide screen, but I'm not convinced that it will make the movie watching experience any better. True HDR might, but as far as I know, there are no projectors that do HDR in any proper manner, yet. So yeah, I don't think I'm missing out on anything!

@Boots3962

4 жыл бұрын

@@granworks youbare right about HDR, no projector will hit HDR... But let you assure you, as someone who jumped from 1080p so 4k. You huge difference. Even on my woven screen which is known to degrade quality alightly

All that work for just a 1080p projector...

@granworks

5 жыл бұрын

Heh, you say "just" like it's a bad thing. 1080p/HD movies look fantastic on that screen!

when you spend $$$ on equipment but can't afford a proper mic xD