As a response to: “can you kids work this out?”. I would ask her father what he would do if HIS WIFE wanted an open marriage.

Hope he stays the course. Any one who can be swayed to cheat is eventually gonna cheat.

Where's the rest of the story? To the best of my recollection they put off the wedding indefinitely. But they ended up going on the honeymoon trip since much of it was nonrefundable. After coming back from France and decided to stay together, marriage was off the table for the foreseeable future.

@Kloburste88

Ай бұрын

Several months after the original posts came out, I messaged OP to inquire what had happened with the therapist. He mentioned that it looked like she was going to lose her license.

@yeetlord7610

Ай бұрын

​@@Kloburste88what is the post name

I'm completely on ops side

If your family and friends want answers just say she the Truth: that she wanted an “open marriage. Give her about 3 months to lie, gas light and manipulate everyone, then just Post the recording on social media. That’s how I would’ve responded to this situation.

Hell no stay away from her toss it in the trash it does not make a difference

Usually I’d say OP is completely valid in all his feelings about that journal, he doesn’t have to read it if he doesn’t want to But OP needs to understand, if that journal contains her thoughts before during and after the beginning of her sessions, it could contain so much more than just her potential cheating, it could reveal other people’s intentions, what happened when he wasn’t looking Besides from finding closure on the matter he could have gathered more than just (the therapist is the issue) he could have gotten more details If nothing else he could rightly confirm everything, either way it’s worth a read

@ThatGuy182545

20 күн бұрын

Their relationship is over. He’s done with her. She’s gone. What further need does he have to know anything about the situation? Why should he waste another minute of his time on her?

Op needs to read that goddamn journal. It's like saying you have a murder suspects itnerary and lists everywhere they went and who they talked to but you'd rather just be mad a murder happenes and someone has to pay.

@ThatGuy182545

20 күн бұрын

No. He does not. It’s exactly like saying you have the murder suspects itinerary. Except you also have the suspect’s DNA, fingerprints, clear photos taken at the crime scene before and after the murder, and a signed confession and plea agreement, and the guy’s already in prison. There ain’t no for further investigation. Case is closed.

Wow! I started this story fully on op's side but at the end all I can think is that he must be stupid. I understand the feeling of betrayal but at this point the only option is to read the journal and see what it says. I'm not even saying that it will magically change all his feelings and they'll get back together like it's some sitcom but actively avoiding reading the journal is just stupid and Petty. He is acting as though he just found out his fiance had been sleeping with his best friend, their entire relationship even though nothing happened other than she was manipulated into asking him a very stupid question and asking for a change in their relationship that he never would have gone with. At this point he should just read the journal and after hearing everything he said which mind you is biased from his own personal viewpoint against her. I still think that giving her another chance wouldn't be bad as long as you set a bunch of ground rules between the both of you, and like he said, the concession she was offering seem way too much and like they wouldn't make for a good relationship. So just have a healthy balance and start the relationship over.

@christianbarrr9936

Ай бұрын

You make it sound so simple. I guess you have never felt betrayed at all in your life. The moment someone you trust betrays you, even if it is only a professional relationship, makes you want to have nothing to do with them at all. It is worse when it is family, and the absolute worst is when it is someone you love. That kind of betrayal can't be fixed with "it wasn't my fault, it was her idea." She needed to put her foot down and say she would never cheat on her fiancée.

@christianbarrr9936

Ай бұрын

Also, it is more of the fact that she actually expected him to go along with the "open marriage" at all. You would think that she would know what kind of person he is since she was gonna marry him.

@yeetlord7610

Ай бұрын

I disagree with your opinion it is too short sighted,yes he gets benifits but is marriage about benefits or loving each other just thought of having intimate relation with others is no no to a person in love

@yeetlord7610

Ай бұрын

You make her seem way too innocent like dude, it's like you are saying her brain isn't developed enough to understand that saying open marriage isn't a deal breaker

@dustyfob

26 күн бұрын

I agree with your comment. Reading the journal doesn’t mean he’s getting back together, it means he’s getting a fuller picture of the story from her perspective. I get the sense of betrayal he feels because I’ve been through something similar, but being willing to throw the entire relationship away that fast without even considering the other side shows immaturity. Based on OP’s story, his ex-fiancé is somebody who was clearly manipulated by someone with authority whom she trusted. He should at least read the journal (unless of course he’s secretly relieved the marriage didn’t happen). For those that say she should’ve stood up to the “therapist”, you’re absolutely right. But we don’t have the details of how long she was being manipulated by that person or what was said. It’s easy from our perspective to say, “she’s an idiot and deserves what she gets.” But to that I say look up the Milgram experiment. It can happen to anybody.