Meggan, you're such an example to so many. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so grateful to have received the privilege of rubbing shoulders with you and being trained as a mediator at your feet. I had no clue how similar our stories are. I was married for 12+ years (though separated for 6 of those years, but still living in the same house). My husband had a lot of mental and physical health challenges, slept most of the day, and hadn't worked for years. I worked several jobs and slowly put myself through school while being the sole breadwinner and caretaker of the 5 children at home. We'd been to counseling several times over the years without success. Many asked why I continued to stay, but I didn't feel I could abandon someone struggling with mental illness (it felt like kicking someone while they're down). Plus, he was a dear friend and I cared about his happiness and future. Once or twice a year, he'd get angry and threaten to divorce. But I'd drag him to counseling again, trying to save what was left of our marriage. Then one day out of the blue, he calmly announced that he wanted a divorce. We sat together and peacefully discussed each issue as I typed the agreement. I have to admit I was almost relieved, though I still cried when I received the signed decree. (It wasn't until later when he was actually on his own and had to pay rent somewhere, that he told me he didn't realize how lucky he had it and that he should have tried harder.) I am happily remarried now, to a hard-working man who has a passel of his own kids and is an active partner in marriage and parenting. Though my x-husband is still one of my dearest friends and I pray for him often, it was liberating to be able to move on and find the love, stability, and support (emotionally, physically, and temporally) that a healthy marriage provides.

My Mom also went through a bad divorce, though in her case, it was because of physical and emotional abuse. I still remember hiding in the closet as a child when he'd start hitting her (I'm 36 now). Mom had told me to hide so there wouldn't be any chance of my getting hurt, too. (Sometimes he threw things, like hot cassaroles in glass dishes, and Mom didn't want her only daughter to get caught in the violence.) Back then, she often said she felt like she deserved the abuse because she "picked him", but she later came to realize (after the divorce) that no one EVER deserves to be abused. My Dad could be a lot of fun and had a great sence of humor, but he had terrible mood swings and insisted he didn't need any help (though she tried repeatedly for over 5 years to get him to go to marraige counseling, even when he placed ridiculous requirements she had to bend over backwards to fulfill). He truly felt that the problem was with everyone else being "out to get him". Honestly, I felt sorry for them both (though they have both passed on). My Mom never wanted to go through divore, but it got to the point that she had to do it to protect herself and her daughter (me). My Dad, on the other hand, needed help and simply couldn't face that. In the end, it cost him everything he loved, and he later talked about his marriage to my Mom as the best years of his life. For Mom and I, though, it was considerably less pleasant, and he never could see that. I remember how wonderful it felt to get away from the violence, even though we were homeless and living with friends. (I literally lived in a small room under the stairs at one point, though this was about a decade before Harry Potter was published.) We had $5 for Christmas that first year on our own (I was 10 at the time), but we didn't care because we had each other and I didn't have to listen to Mom crying out in pain as he hit her and slammed her into the walls and threw things and even, once, shoved her onto the hood of a hot car, burning her arms. Things were tough, but we got by, and we felt such relief, like opening a window after years in the stiffling darkness. TL;DR - Sometimes divorce IS neccessary, not because you've failed, but because marriage requires the full commitment of TWO souls, each with the freedom to choose aright or amiss. Sometimes, these problems can be solved with determinations, love, and work. Sometimes, they involve factors outside one party's control, like mental illness or poor choices, and, if the other is completely unwilling to repent (which means to change and never do that thing again, NOT to merely feel sorry for doing wrong), divorce may be the only way. Marriage is not a sacrifice of one person to become nothing more that the punching bag of another, either physically or emotionally. This doesn't just damage the victimized spounce (which isn't always the wife, by the way), it also damages the kids (I speak from experience). That was NEVER God's intent for marriage, and we do not honor marriage by perpetuating such a dark and terrible situation, in my lowly opinion.

@everelizabethstevenson8591

5 жыл бұрын

This sounds exactly like my situation.except lost my child and myself in the process. I just can't take it anymore and I'm hoping there is something out there in life better for me

@jennyelsie

4 жыл бұрын

I loved your words. Thank you for sharing.

@ironeagle9850

3 жыл бұрын

Quagthistle Thank you for your words

Thanks for posting this video, It made me feel better. I still feel guilty that we had to go though a divorce. As a man, sometimes its lost that we receive spousal abuse as well, that started the day after we were married. I too had made that decision to stay no matter what. My former wife had many problems that she could not address. We were married for 25 years and had three fantastic sons, strong in the priesthood, together. We saw many bishops and marriage councilors over those years, and usually those sessions ended when they asked her to make some changes. When I finally asked her to please seek personal counseling, she thew a knife at me, tried to choke me, jumped on my back when I was trying to move away, and beat me with a plate, before calling 911 to report me for domestic violence, again. After we separated, I was called in several times by my new bishop to answer, moral, abuse, and support questions that she had sent coupes letters to him about. After one of those meetings, he gave me a lift by asking me if my temple recommend was current. It was not, he asked me if there was any reason we could not do it right then? We did, and that one act lifted my spirits and gave me the strength to endure. I love that bishop. After going through monthly court hearing for 3 years, our divorce was finalized, and she passed away from cancer, that she had not told anyone about, three months later. Many years later, I look back on the strengths and understanding I gained from that experience, and marvel at what I was taught. I have been married to my second wife ( also divorced ) for almost 15 years now. Those have been marvelous years, not perfect, but marvelous. We have shared our grandchildren together, we have enjoyed church callings together, we have served in the temple together, and we have mourned together with the death of our loved one. There is hope and some times it takes a while for the plan to be realized. Am I sad that we had to go through a divorce? Every day, but it was necessary for reasons that would not be revealed to me until many years later. I still look forward to seeing her on the other side, as the problems and issues that she faced in this life, have been removed and she has grown so much since then. I know the stigma in the church for single divorced males, it's huge. Thank goodness we have the singles program to help us socially and spiritually.

@empowermentthroughtrials6673

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying that. I am currently going through a divorce as a member. I am sharing my story on my youtube channel. Go check it out as I share empowering messages to those who are also going through or who have gone through a christian divorce.

@LOURDES5238

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you for sharing your experienc, I am from Mexico here is not easy speaking abaut this . Should posible that you tell me where I can find a single program? Thanks

I remember speaking once to a woman who had been terribly abused by her father - sexually, physically, verbally, financially, all of it. She told me how she grew bitter over the years well into adulthood, wondering what she had done to deserve it. As she got older, she began trying to make a better go of it. She got the point where she had forgiven and simply wanted to know why it had happened to her, what she was supposed to learn from it. And the inspiration she received was pretty amazing. She told me that the Lord had not needed her to learn anything, simply that he needed someone to be the last one in a long line of abusers who would break the cycle, and he knew that's what she would do and he trusted her to not carry on the abuse as so many before her had. she said it was a sacred trust and the Lord needed a choice spirit to stop the cycle. She said that inspiration changed everything, turned her hatred into compassion and that she felt honored to have been chosen for such a painful but important task. This video reminds me of that. I have to wonder if the Lord sent her to her former husband for a similar reason. Sure sounds like she was exactly what he needed, even though she got very little in return for her efforts and sacrifices. Not many women would do what she did, and had she left him first, who knows what he would have done to himself. She may have saved his life.

I had a feeling to share this. In my life, my parents divorced when I was about 9 years old. And honestly that was a big change in my life and my family life. My parents had split custody, I spent a lot of time at my dad’s house because he could take me and my siblings to school. And I got to see mom on the weekend. And later on I started to only live with mom, and saw my dad less and less. But even with all this, my parents didn’t hate each other. In fact, they were still friends, my dad could come over and he would grill, and we had big family celebrations on holidays. I know that my case is not common, but I just wanted to say that the stigma of “divorce bad” is not always the case. Sometimes people just don’t work well with each other, and for some people, that takes being married to find that out. But if my parents stuck together because “divorce bad” my mother would have never met my step dad. And again, I recognize that my case is exceptional, but I now have a father figure in my life on a daily basis, and I can still see my dad, granted less than I would like, _but he is still in my life._ You just need to Trust in God, our Heavenly Father, because if my mom and dad weren’t listening to the Lord during these times, honestly it would be a lot uglier than how it turned out. He knows how to do everything, so if you keep his commandments and listen to him, he will personally help you in your situation. And I testify of that in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Hopes this helps somebody, have a great day.

@churchofjesuschrist

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience, Brandon. We hope that your experience and testimony help someone else going through a similar situation.

@jilliansommer2181

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing I needed this. My parents got divorced a year ago. Your case is truly a blessing and although my case definitely isn’t the same you’re so right about how divorce isn’t necessary bad. God works in such mysterious ways that in the end always seem to workout

@PunsandPixels

Жыл бұрын

I needed this. My husband has become a different person and has feelings for a woman at work. I’m trying to be patient but unfortunately it’s looking more and more like he needs to hit rock bottom to wake up. It’s so sad to see. But I am staying close to the Lord. I know He will guide me to good paths.

@danielw.8356

6 ай бұрын

But what if they did seek help, seek the lord, forgiveness, and so on. We have to be careful of the idea of "it just doesn't work out or doesn't work well". Lots of people use that as an excuse to give up on a marriage, or an eternal family with many children involved. I hear too many excuses now a days, without anyone actually putting forth effort, and really buckling down to try their hardest.

Tears to my eyes as a recent divorcee. Certainly wasn't in my plans, but 2 people have to use their agency to make it work

@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605

4 жыл бұрын

Keep praying for each others salvation and spiritual maturity. I layed my hand on my spouse's shoulder and said to him, "Be born again in Jesus' name.", and he's been believing in God ever since. He doesn't ignore me near as much anymore.

@lindamoses3697

3 жыл бұрын

That first year my heart was in physical pain following my divorce just from the sorrow and loss. My eternal marriage was dangerous to my children and myself physically and emotionally. It was however the wisest decision of my life.

Every divorce is different, but this felt so similar to my own. It wasn't prescription drugs, but genetic mental illness that took us down. That feeling of giving up your goals to support someone else and getting nothing in return, having no one to deeply connect to because you want to protect them, having no partner. In the end, he left me too and I believe it was a gift from God so I would never have to feel guilty about it. And finally being able to move on. I have married again and have children now. I never realized marriage could be so easy. I learned so much from that experience and I don't think I could love my husband now the way I do without it. He is so different from anything I ever imagined, but in the end so perfect for me. Thank you for sharing this.

I am a guy, there are a lot of her experiences that are similar to my divorce...she is dead on. I wish she would have been my mediator, but guess what...it's all God! I give credit to the LDS Church and The Mormon Channel for addressing this topic. It is usually overlooked and not addressed. It's not taboo; it's divorce, it happens and we need help when it does!

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

Well, as a man, as long as you didn't initiate the divorce, you are not the one causing her to commit adultery.

@rubenbermudez6185

5 жыл бұрын

@@danieldeluca4936 wait a minute. What does the bible actually said about it? Tje Spanish translation saiys that disregarding who provoke the divorce one is supposed to look forward to get back to their spouse, otherwise she commits adultery and whoever marries her commites adultery and I'm sure that apply to men as well, may God help us

@Ether-pb5gb

4 жыл бұрын

hang in there. have faith.

@Onlinesully

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Ogilvie (DO) quite honestly the world would be a far better place if there were more mediation experts with skill and compassion than lawyers with other goals

I divorced , I had been merried for 23 years , is so hard. I know that my havenly father and his son Jesus Christ are working with me , I am not alone, they never abandon us. The life is a great gift .

@churchofjesuschrist

3 жыл бұрын

Lourdes, thank you for your comment and for sharing your testimony. We're so sorry for the pain and difficulty you've experienced. Our Heavenly Father promises strength and comfort when divorce or other difficulty become our reality: "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28). The following article from a young divorced member of the Church may be of interest to you or others with these same questions: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/03/young-adults/hope-and-healing-after-divorce?lang=eng Take care! You are loved and you belong.

Don’t give up. Even when someone, who promised God that they wouldn’t give up on you, gives up on you, don’t give up on yourself, and don’t give up on God. He hasn’t given up on you. No matter how devastating, no matter how numbing and detached it all seems. He still is there. Reach out in your pain and your broken heart, and He will reach back. There is still is a path back to happiness. It may not be an easy path, and it probably involves helping other people as much as letting others help you. Don’t give up.

@gabriellos9014

6 жыл бұрын

hermosas palabras!!

To everyone reading these comments: while divorce in most cases is NOT Heavenly Father’s will for his married children, temple or not, His will for us will NEVER cancel (for lack of a better term) another’s AGENCY! It is the one thing Deity cannot do, as we know from many scriptures regarding our pre-mortal life. He would cease to be God if He were to do so! He could send visions & other miracles in an effort to change one’s heart away from something like divorce, but if a spouse wants out He won’t interfere with their choice, however wrong it may be in His sight.

Thank you for this video! I thoroughly enjoy it! Though not divorced, this video speaks to my soul. Though life may not be how we envision it, God has grander aspirations than we do. One day at a time, let us put our trust in God.

Divorce has ruined me personally. I feel rejected and unwanted and that I'll never be really connected to someone. I'll never give anyone the trust that my first wife used against me.

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

Did you not have a second wife?

@sandramosquera7351

5 жыл бұрын

There's always a second chance as life is just one and God wants us to be happy

@cmjensen

5 жыл бұрын

jawjww 💛💛💛

@kevindunne4271

4 жыл бұрын

jawjww What did your wife do to you?

You were one of my favorite teachers at BYU. Thanks for bringing your dad to the class to talk to us and sing for us. I’m sorry about your divorce, but thank you for sharing your thoughts about it.

I've never been divorced, but I was once engaged. I can somewhat relate to what this woman said in this video. I've sacrifice a lot for this girl and even moved across the country to be closer to her. When she ended things, I was like why is this happening and this shouldn't be happening. I felt alone in Utah. No family, barely knowing anyone and it was a little dark period for me. But I'm grateful for God's plan for me and knowing that it's part of the plan and in the end, it will be alright.

@benjamintyus6957

Жыл бұрын

That is a lot of faith bro.

You were my mediator thank you for the comforting message our situation was so similar.

I know everything that you have described in this video, except for the drug addiction, and that I'm in the stage of hoping and trying and trying to save my marriage. But I'm so grateful that you shared your story because it gave me hope that no matter what the ending might look like for us, that we will be okay.

I am a returned missionary, I preached of eternal families! And staying together forever! I dreamed to be sealed in the temple and to have an eternal family. No one teaches us how to handle divorce, no one mentions that it can happen. I wish they would have taught me how to deal with it. I am pretty sure I wouldn’t be confused with so many difficult times and pain.

@churchofjesuschrist

4 жыл бұрын

Angela, thank you for your comment and for sharing your experience. We're so sorry for the pain and difficulty you've experienced. Our Heavenly Father promises strength and comfort when divorce or other challenges become our reality: "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28). The following article from a young divorced member of the Church may be of interest to you or others with these same questions: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/03/young-adults/hope-and-healing-after-divorce?lang=eng Take care! You are loved and you belong.

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

the apostles spoke of broken families in "The Family: A Proclamation to the World". It isn't a common theme that we speak of in church. We speak of reconciliation, healing, forgiveness, and moving forward, together. But the scriptures make plain the devastation of the "consequences of sin". Sorry about your difficulty and pain.

So touching, and tender. Thank you!

No ones story is the same. Came from home where my parents split up never married. Dad got divorced later and my Mom as well. We need to be less of judges and more compassionate. If it was us we wouldn't want someone telling us what we should have done better.

@aylix2137

6 жыл бұрын

James Craig perhaps people judge because they themselves are scared

@will_of_europa

6 жыл бұрын

Actually I could only hope to God that somebody would constantly tell me I could have done better. You dont become celestial by sugar coating life.

When she said, “God has a plan and it’s not always the blueprint you think it should be” that rung true to me! Very powerful message! Stay on the covenant path no matter what!

Wow. This is just what I needed. Got divorced a month and a half ago. My feelings were very similar to this story. I was so there for my husband and he was the one who ended up cheating and leaving me. I really thought it was my trial was just to be with him as lonely as I was in my marriage I loved him still do. Still can’t believe he left me.

@elcompaazteca

6 жыл бұрын

I'm going thru that my self right... As of now I have no idea what am I supposed to do with my life.. she cheated on me and not just cheated but has a relationship with someone else and now my life............well as of now I have no life anymore. :(

@JensLemonadeLife

6 жыл бұрын

Recent divorcee myself. :( it's rough, but we'll figure it out

@HaleStorm49

6 жыл бұрын

Mom2 I'm curious... Any idea what drove his decision to leave? If you could start over from the beginning is there anything you would do differently?

@rickraycpa

6 жыл бұрын

Ah, but isn't this truly a blessing? You deserve someone better His leaving has now released you. The Lord DOES have a plan for you. This is only a step. A difficult step but perhaps you can now move on to develop new loving relationships with others that will not be a trial and lonely. Be prayerful and open to the Lord's guidance. Change is often a good thing! :)

@rncondie

6 жыл бұрын

Oscar, you have a life. We can’t choose our trials but we all have them. I am happily married for 30 years, but our challenges is with our children. We would give anything if one child would just say “yes” mom and dad. Trust is necessary in a relationship and one-by-one we learned that our children had broken that trust.

Thank you. The words floating through my head right now: free agency, sinner, relying on others visual aspects of a marriage, being happy, depression, manipulation, narcissism, sadness, lonely, heartache. If a marriage is causing so much for someone to want to hurt themselves, do you stay in it? Or do you deal with it for all eternity even if you been to therapy and counseling? If one doesn't want to work on how they are, what do you do? I think it also depends on people who have been through what she has gone through in this video, which I have experienced. I am currently going through this.

It gets very difficult when goals become so different as we get older, and it’s harder to stay together..

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

maybe you need to simplify and just focus on what's most important. maybe you can rally around the goals of family prayer and scripture study.

@marcelastacey890

4 жыл бұрын

D. Levi Chestnutwood Boillot lets be careful about oversimplifying and underachieving - there’s a lot of life to enjoy - enjoy it with someone who enjoys it with you. No judging. No shaming. Allowing space for each person to live their calling.

I truly understand every word this lady speaks. I am so grateful for her sharing her story, and that the church is taking the time and effort to share these stories. Thank you.

Wow, thanks for sharing!

We need to be much more compassionate to people who get divorced. Clearly, this woman stuck with this man even after he stopped being emotionally supportive and began abusing drugs. And then he left. I bet you that most people who look at this divorce from the outside would make fun of both parties. However, she was dumped by him DESPITE the support she had given him. We never know what's going on behind those "irreconcilable differences" - most Mormon marriages end in divorce due to emotional neglect, adultery, "they left" or addiction rather than simply "growing apart." Clearly, we all need to stop alienating divorced people and offer them support, because for all you know, the divorce may not have even been their fault!

@empowermentthroughtrials6673

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying that. I am currently going through a divorce as a member. I am sharing my story on my youtube channel. Go check it out as I share empowering messages to those who are also going through or who have gone through a christian divorce.

@jennielauber8308

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying that. I lost friends when i got divorced 12 years ago. It's amazing how SOME members of the church treat those that are divorced. My divorce was not my fault. Maybe only in the fact i chose poorly. Took me along time to forgive myself.

Very interesting and well done. It seems so often that a spouse (male and female alike) has to be unfaithful, or addicted to drugs or porn to justify a divorce. I do not advocate divorce, but absolutely know that it isn’t the worst thing that happens in life. Living with mental & emotional abuse is toxic and does nothing for a marriage or the children in that marriage. Members of the church who have been able to stick it out need not think lesser of those who choose to move on for the good of their well being and the greater stability for their children. The big question is what will I do with my life, my commitment to the gospel and my commitment to God. It’s something that can only be understood by God, for he is and will be the ultimate judge of what i have done with my life.

I wish I had someone like you to talk to. My marriage of 11 years came to an end in August of 2017 and we became legally divorced October 9th 2018 . Here I am still alone , single not even trying and he is engaged and living with his new and soon wife to be, there just waiting out the 6 months . There isn't a day that goes by I dont think of him and me and wonder what I could have done that would have saved our marriage! 😔😔

@tashapavko8535

5 жыл бұрын

Keep strong and pray

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

God grant us serenity to change what we can change, accept what we cannot change, and have wisdom to know the difference. It's the small and simple things that keep families together. And it takes two.

Thank you for your words. i have been trying to my experience into words. Thank you

Stepping into divorce is the worst decision taken by couples at certain times because of some temporary problems happened to their life and they get frustrated..It could be solved later with the help of some mediators or people from the family or by means of counselling.Their are some cases like extra-marital affairs are difficult to solve by partners. But also wise people can solve it with little effort. That is by forgiving to the partner if the person is accepting their faults and ready to live a good relationship.

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

my wife and i had 6 years of hell before we started to get a taste of heaven in our home. "In praise of those who save" is a great talk by then President Uchdorf. sometimes we just don't understand that building a celestial home pebbles at a time is sometimes what it takes. over an eternity, that celestial home can and will be amazing

thank you for sharing this, I have been through the same thing X

Thank you for the story. It makes me feel peace and jumped out of if I can do better.

such a mature perspective. really appreciate her humility and willingness to share her story which will bless the lives of others. God bless this good woman.

@Blondie-2468

6 жыл бұрын

Res Judicata Very mature perspective, indeed.

Thank you for sharing your beautiful journey with us ♥️

Even though I like the video as many others on this topic, I would like to see videos were the experience is shared also from the man point of view. In this video we know what she went through, but we do not know what he went through. I am not saying that they should do this with a divorced couple, but at least share the story of a men who went through divorce and/or abuse in the process. Saying that, I am grateful for Meggan sharing her story and what she learned from it.

@taylorsessions4143

5 жыл бұрын

I'll tell you my story. My ex and I started out the same as the couple in the video. After our second child she had a serious case of post partum depression. She was never the same again. I would encourage her to seek treatment, for us to go together, but the thought that she could have anything to do with the problems we were having kept her from taking responsibility. Contention was more and more common place as she built walls of pride around herself. She picked a fight one morning and then called the police and lied to them about physical abuse. I was arrested but later thanks to a loving Heavenly Father I had an honest judge and was found innocent. We continued to go to marriage counseling to give the relationship our every effort, but in fact what happened was she would come in and bring up meaningless things to the counselor so that she wouldn't have to face her own issues. She stopped trying, she stopped going to church, started drinking and was very untrustworthy in general. Divorce threats were frequent, usually used weekly, all so that she could feel like she was controlling something in her life. I stood by her and put up with it all even though my friends and family encouraged me strongly to leave. I still loved her, regardless of her actions. I thought that if I could honor my covenants then I would see a miracle. Sadly, she got an attorney and surprised me with divorce papers. There was nothing that our Bishop, marriage counselor, or I could do to convince her that this was a poor decision. Her need for control resulted in her making any decision as long as it was her choice and not mine, regardless of what that outcome meant in the long term. September 18, 2018 I lost my family. Unlike the woman in this story, I do not feel like it was a blessing and I do not have much hope for the future. I know the Lord has a plan for all of his children and he loves us each immensely. While I feel betrayed, alone and confused right now, I'm certain that one day I will look back and see the Lord's hands in these recent events. I will surely thank him for helping me go through these trials instead of someone else's. As for now it's hard to envision life getting better, but the Lord has never left me before and I know he certainly won't abandon me now.

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

@@taylorsessions4143 I would have gotten a second wife, the moment after I was found innocent of the charges.

@leshelhornbeck1265

5 жыл бұрын

@@taylorsessions4143thank you for sharing your story. It certainly can be a very difficult thing to process, regardless of being the one who initiates or receives the divorce. I do know that God does watch out for us, regardless of the pain an agony we feel at times. I find myself dancing through my home because of the level of JOY and LIGHT that is there now that he is gone, BUT, that doesn't mean I don't also find myself screaming into my pillow so my children cannot hear my immense grief. I'm sorry for your story, for this path that you are on. I hope and pray you will be able to find joy and solace and know without a doubt that a loving Heavenly Father is watching you and holding you and carrying you and leading you.

I really appreciate the acknowledgment that sometimes the answer IS divorce.

Divorce is not a pretty thing, but at least some people are able to find happiness afterward. As I was watching the video I thought it was kind of sad that they had to go through this. The part I found most interesting was she was able to realize that things aren't always going to work out the way we want them to. I also think that a lot of people need to hear this video. Such a wonderful video!

God Bless You!

I am living similar trials, although it was hard after he left me I am so ever grateful for what I became to know about myself. I was beneficial to the both of us that we parted separate ways. You can only feel it to be true when you know what God needs of you and that you just need to trust and just Love more.

@empowermentthroughtrials6673

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying that. I am currently going through a divorce as a member. I am sharing my story on my youtube channel. Go check it out as I share empowering messages to those who are also going through or who have gone through a christian divorce.

Very true thoughts! As a daughter of divorced parents I wholeheartedly agree with this perspective. Gods plan can for some people can be divorce.

I Saw this video about 4 years ago and Wow... Was like a fresh air in my face. In that moment I understood just a little bit what she said because My English wasn't good, but throug spirit I could understand what the video means. Now, 4 years later, after My Pathway connect Journey , I could understand everything what she said. I just crying because Heavenly Father help me with the gift of tongues, also help me to set healthy boundaries with My ex husband and ask him for divorce after years a painfull marriage. Even when divorce is horrible, it's worse to live with pain and without hope 🙏🏻♥️😭 No

You are amazing! This is something I've never seen with divorce. For me, I've always seen fighting, mutually not trying, porn addiction, and marrying unprepared and rashly... Never something like this.

y'all are freaking out about "His side" of the story. She didn't say one mean or negative thing against him. All she was saying were facts. He was addicted to drugs. He quit. He became depressed. He turned inward. He left. Relax people.

@Blondie-2468

6 жыл бұрын

Dana Scully 100% AGREE. Well said.

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but she took her ring off and decided to move one. What exactly does that mean?

@sparkimoto

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, no one to blame here. He most likely picked up on her loss of passion [ for lack of a better word ] on the marriage. It's not something one can fake!

@deepettans

5 жыл бұрын

Dana Scully Truly said. In fact what is understood is she loved him and instead of hurting his feelings of pushing him towards her she aided him to get rid of his addiction from drugs and tried many ways to socially attach him so that he would get relax and realize at some point of time to come back changing himself to continue loving his wife instead he was just only bothering to fulfill his psycho thought and got rid off this situation for his peace without even thinking what would her condition be? I would say that he only created a gap between them. I would rather hate such irresponsible guys who do not know the value of love, marriage and life with a dedicated living and a caring wife😠. Whatever is the situation, if both of them discuss together amicably trying to forgive and forget, this would have been solved.

@leshelhornbeck1265

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel, it means she recognized she was a daughter of God and God's plan for his children is NOT for them to be alone. We have teachings in the Bible that convince people that women are never to marry again if they get divorced. That was also during the time of the law of Moses. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a woman "moving on." It is healthy and right and good. I once had someone tell me "shame on you for being happy! You are getting a divorce!" I was so shocked. My response was, "My Heavenly Father created me to have joy. And my children deserve a happy mother." Was I happy because I was getting a divorce? Absolutely NOT. But, I was happy because I was attending the temple, praying, studying the scriptures, and so much more that allowed me to find JOY and PEACE and to know without a doubt that I am a valued daughter of God who wants me to be happy, and not be alone!

Thank you

Me gustaria que pronto lo tengamos al espanol... pude entender la esencia del mensaje... Pero se que hay mas. Estoy en una situacion similar... 8 años luchando por salvar mi matrimonio, pero he encontrado paz en aceptar que ni siquiera el padre puede violentar el albedrio de sus hijos, y que quizas para mi, lo mejor y lo mas saludable es que siga adelante!

@yxellesilva6657

Жыл бұрын

I Saw this video about 4 years ago and Wow... Was like a fresh air in my face. In that moment I understood just a little bit what she said because My English wasn't good, but throug spirit I could understand what the video means. Now, 4 years later, after My Pathway connect Journey , I could understand everything what she said. I just crying because Heavenly Father help me with the gift of tongues, also help me to set healthy boundaries with My ex husband and ask him for divorce after years a painfull marriage. Even when divorce is horrible, it's worse to live with pain and without hope 🙏🏻♥️😭

Deciding to stay married is a choice we make everyday. I had a different perspective. I'm happily married, but this video made me think about the husbands perspective. What was his story? These videos are beneficial, but imagine if you had the husbands 4 minutes and what he might say. This made me think about a friend of mine who cheated on his wife with someone he met at the gym. His marriage ended in divorce and when his wife left she had just found out she was pregnant. I pondered for a long time if I should still be friends with this "sinner". I came to the conclusion that although he was on his way out of the faith, I would still be there for him and love him. I can say that was/is a hard decision because separating the sin from the sinner can be difficult. I came to the conclusion that more love is always more beneficial than less. I just wish people remembered how precious and valuable their relationships are as we move about our busy lives.

@josephbruton9107

6 жыл бұрын

Brad Davis I agree with what you say 100%. I just want to add that divorce does not free you especially if children are involved in the breakup. They find themselves torn between two loves. The love of their mother and the father. It leaves scars which are hard to deal with once they get married when they fall in love with the love of their lives. It affects each child differently but it definitely does. That's the sad reality of life.

@JensLemonadeLife

6 жыл бұрын

Every story is different. Weighing the severity of my covenants with my situation, Heavenly Father helped me to see that you can forgive someone and not have to bind the rest of your life to them. That BOTH of you have to want it and work at it. And that my Savior would like me to have joy on this earth

@SteveGergetz

6 жыл бұрын

Brad Davis - I don't disagree with your 2nd paragraph or final sentence, but I don't understand what your point is for Meggan. You said you "had a different perspective" and "just wish people remembered how precious and valuable their relationships are." That means you thnk Meggan did/does NOT remember how precious and valuable their relationships are. Please explain.

@danascully7358

6 жыл бұрын

Divorce freed me. I let him leave so I wouldn't be held accountable. He was abusive and I put up with it. When he finally decided we should divorce I felt the spirit flow over me with peace. I didn't have kids but it was one of the best things to happen to me. I'd still marry him because I learned so much and it changed me but the divorce was freeing. No more abuse. No more of his psychotic family. I could leave and move away and start over.

@Blondie-2468

6 жыл бұрын

Please remember one word: ADDICT. This is significant. ADDICT. Addiction is painful for everyone. EVERYONE. It is difficult on many levels. It strains relationship dynamics to where extremely tough decisions need to be made. The Atonement is real: It provides repentance and forgiveness for all. It is exquisitely beautiful. The trickiest component is in practical, real life day-to-day interactions. This is extremely tough when the addict seems to love their addiction more than anything else near and dear to their hearts. I’m proud of all those involved in this story. These decisions are multi-faceted. Nevertheless our Heavenly Father wants us to be emotionally “healthy”and happy. Amen.

Wish the background music didn't take over so much and make it difficult to focus on what she was saying

I'm LDS and divorced, it's tough to navigate the Church, post divorce dating, what to now think about God and what he wants from you and what he did want from you when you weren't divorced, confidence in Patriarchal Blessings and other blessings, still valid? who knows, it's tough

@laurenlockhart3312

6 жыл бұрын

Hang in there, Cameron. Our afflictions will be consecrated for our gain. If you endure to the end, you will be blessed. You can do this. Be of good cheer. www.lds.org/media-library/video/2016-03-0023-no-blessings-denied-the-faithful?lang=eng

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

How is your post divorce dating different from your pre-divorce dating?

@leshelhornbeck1265

5 жыл бұрын

Cameron, please keep in mind that blessings are given to us as a pathway, but there are many many things that can take us off that path, whether it be our own choices, or the choices of others. My Patriarchal Blessing talked about the man I was to marry and the family I would have. I had that for 22 years. But I am now a single mom. Does that invalidate those blessings and promises? No way! And I will never deny he was the one I was supposed to marry. But agency plays a HUGE role in our lives. His agency led him to choices that I dealt with for years and years before finally asking him to leave. But I also know God does not want any of his children to be alone and I have been assured that there is a path for me to another wonderful man who will be a part of my life. God's grace is so incredibly good! Hold to that! Hold to the knowledge that every. single. blessing promised us will be given if we remain faithful!

Divorce is hard and going through it twice, was even more difficult. My first husband committed adultery with a porn addiction and my second husband, just couldn't love enough. I know that if one works at marriage every single day, loving that person you are married to, then there is so much joy and great hope. I see it every day watching my five sons. It is possible. With time, I got over my goliaths. I refuse to give up and won't. All will be well because that is what I will create.

@benjamintyus6957

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you were the problem.

We love this message

My experience too. So sad...but happy and relieved I have a second chance.

This is the first video that the person going through a divorce is going through it with the same feelings as i have now. Most videos are about how horrible it is but like the woman in this video i had no plans to get divorced but the emotional separation from my wife over many years has convinced her that we are too different and could never work it out. It is unusual but i also am happy to be able to move forward and be free of the emotional dead zone.

I'm sorry for your loss. In my case, I was the one who left

I love her perspective and I appreciate this video. I wonder what her ex-husband would say, if they had put in an interview with him in this same video.

@RobertPemberton

6 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought. In the Love Languages book (fantastic book imho) it talks about how showing love your way may not be at all what they need. Perhaps she did the things she saw her mother do for her dad...but her husband needed something else entirely. I know its assumption - but the video leaves a lot unanswered. It's possible that his story sounds just as reasonable. Maybe he told her every day for 15 years that he needed her to compliment his successes and she couldn't. Who knows. We're all so imperfect. Best thing is to always seek the best learning and then approach God with all humility. He has answers.

I needed this I'm currently going through a divorce

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

sorry to hear about that

@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605

4 жыл бұрын

Pray for eachothers salvation and spiritual maturity everyday. Keep praying. I layed my hand on my spouse's shoulder and said to him, "Be born again in the name of Jesus.", and he's been believing in God ever since. He doesn't ignore me near as much anymore. And he talks about God now. If you don't think they're the right one then pray for your soulmate's salvation, maybe he or she is out their somewhere and in need of prayer

I regret getting remarried because I've noticed that she doesn't have the best me. I'm damaged and I constantly struggle with self worth issues. As time goes on a side of me is always sort of waiting or expecting it to end which causes me to be indifferent and not fully engaged. it's not fair to my wife but it's true. only with her now for the kids sake.

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

You need prayer, and time in the Word of God. Only through the Holy Spirit, can you love your wife as Christ loved the church. You need His presence to fill you and bring you joy and peace.

She didn’t mention seeking professional help. Or did I miss that important point? Sometimes pain is hidden and especially for men, shameful to them. He obviously had a lot going on emotionally that he couldn’t or wouldn’t share for some reason. She was able to reach out to others. He apparently was not. It is often more difficult for men to seek outside help especially if they are already feeling down. Sad situation but not uncommon.

Both of my parents came from divorced families. So I can relate in some way since I never met my grandpa from my mom’s side due to an abusive relationship that is too sensitive to discuss here.

I'd like to hear his side of the story

@tashapavko8535

5 жыл бұрын

Yes big time two sides to every story

I'm so sorry to hear that. 🙂 God will pray for you to find another right guy, been in a faithful relationship and second marriage will be nice. ;-)

Her experience is very similar to mine. I did find God through the pain of a Divorce. Not sure if I was still married to him if I would of found him. I know that he had a plan for me and that was to find a loving relationship with my Savior.

Sometime that blueprint god has for us has our scribbles where we thought we knew better. Trying to erase those scribbles would be thru repentance. I hear that god has a plan but sometimes we have to take life in our own hands and do what’s right and not depend on his hands. It what makes us grow and become like him.

hopefully there will be a follow up video about reconciliation.

I feel this 💔

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

stay close to your bishop.

Probably should have his side as well....

Thank you for sharing your story I am divorce for 11 years my ex hurt me deeply I loved him so he left me for someone els he had to borrow money from his brother to divorce me for that women when that did not work out he wanted me back but I said let's be friends and see than I heared he got married to someone els not the women he left me for again he hurt me after my ex I haved met another man or falling in love again don't trust men and a fread of getting hurt again I wonder if there is a Mr Right ?

@empowermentthroughtrials6673

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying that. I am currently going through a divorce as a member. I am sharing my story on my youtube channel. Go check it out as I share empowering messages to those who are also going through or who have gone through a christian divorce.

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

as long as both parties are committed to covenants and doing what is right and moving forward and committed to doing good in the world, then YES, there is a mr right. just don't expect sunshine and roses each day.

Im am totally going through this nightmare

The woman they can leave by them self. I love your story xxx

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, but Paul does urge the woman to remain with her husband as long as there is a chance that he might become a believer.

Another example of how addiction can wreak havoc. I'm pretty sure things would have turned out much differently if he hadn't gotten hooked on oxycotin.

What no church will tell you, is that men and women have different needs. They are innate, and trying live spiritually is not enough.

Yep, divorced and doubt I will ever get remarried. Just seems way to stressful and taxing. Plus, I don't want to get burned again or hurt another person....

In cultures where divorce is deemed to be a taboo and where God is held in highest esteem, it is difficult not to feel a discord between one's self and the creator.

This doesn't cover the process of getting a temple divorce. I'm teaching my children to go to the temple for marriage, but doing so ignorant of how to undo that covenant is essentially planning for the worst.

Feel bad for her but good that she did what she had to do

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

She didn't do it! He did!

Great people. Though I am not a Christian

I would get more from this if the background didn't compete!!

What a good woman.

Amen.

do you think in the next life, you'll get back together again knowing how challenging this life is? i wonder if the next life will be better and that we can say i'm sorry and i didn't mean what i said? what if for some it was a misunderstanding?

If I am just to go through divorce with my future husband one day, it's better for me to not be married at all in the first place. I cannot imagine all the pain people go through, it's very sad...

"it (divorce) was this amazing gift, too, because I could move on".......if this thought was truly in her heart, I bet the ex-husband felt that. Perhaps it was motivation for him to want to leave? not trying to victim blame, but it seems like a divorce is what her heart longed for. My mother in law was PRAYING to God for a divorce from her husband of 25 years (5 children). That same week, he handed her divorce papers. You can feel thoughts of your spouse. It shows up in interactions. My father in law felt it. He acted on it.

@viviennecampbell2058

3 жыл бұрын

I can definiatly see your point, but I mean why would she not want a divorce? Her marriage was in shambles because of problems that her husband had, and he refused to address them. It sounded like a totally miserable situation. My mom was married to a cheating piece of garbage, and when they got divorced she was so happy and could finally be at peace. Though divorce can be traumatic, its also a great gift to those in damaging marriages.

For whatever reason, I have been thinking lately about what it takes to seriously consider a divorce. I mean what has to happen or how do you have to feel before you cross that line and seriously consider divorce as a viable option? It takes courage to talk about divorce as this lady is doing. The truth is, however, she never made the decision to get a divorce. It was made for her. She can say that she did all that she could do to keep it going and feel no responsibility for its failure. In fact, it seems that she was the person insulted when her husband left her. But now she says that she is so grateful to him for leaving. With that being the case, which person made the right decision? We all know that you cant judge another persons decisions especially when it comes to things like divorce. It is very individual and personal. Still, common reasons for divorce include sin (adultery), abuse, mental illness, finances, politics (?), selfishness, lack of forgiveness , and/or simply growing apart because of different goals and different livestyle desires. Some people will fight beyond what you think would be expected. Others will leave as soon as they feel that the marriage "isnt working out for me anymore". It seems that the purpose of this video is to let people know that there are others who have gone through what they may be experiencing now. It tells them that even though it will be the hardest thing you have ever done, sometimes divorce is ok and actually the right choice. That even God understands and supports your decision. Maybe divorce is best to be treated like a death. The less you try to counsel a person the better off you will be. It is just something they have to work through themselves and all you can do is be a supportive friend. In any case, I am so sorry for people who have to go through this terrible experience. Side Note: I hope my note below is not offensive to anyone but it goes along with what I said at the beginning about what I have been thinking lately. What needs to happen for you to consider leaving your spouse? I have never been a person who would support someone getting a divorce because of fears over "eternal" consequences caused by LDS teaching of eternal marriage. But just like in mortality, at some point people realize that divorcing someone you love is the only way to be happy and progress. If progressing eternally really is possible and it depends on two people wanting the same thing and being worthy to do so; I wonder if a decision to separate from a loved one is a decision that people could face in heaven. If it is, maybe that decision will be made by someone else also.

It something hard to talk about that but it’s a really situation when church members judge the people when they didn’t accept the consequences when a marriage is not being a good thing

How do you help your children through something like this?

@churchofjesuschrist

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for your question, @EmmilyABrown. We hope the suggestions in this 2006 article can help give some guidance on how to help your children after a divorce: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2006/09/for-the-divorced-single-parent?lang=eng

Very sad, as my wife and I of 32 years are heading for divorce 😢

@churchofjesuschrist

3 ай бұрын

@TP-vu3tc, thank you for your comment. We're so sorry for the pain and difficulty you're experiencing. Our Heavenly Father promises strength and comfort when divorce or other difficulty become our reality: "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28). The following article from a young divorced member of the Church may be of interest to you or others: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/03/young-adults/hope-and-healing-after-divorce?lang=eng Take care! You are loved.

@TP-vu3tc

3 ай бұрын

@@churchofjesuschrist Thank you

the issue is when it comes to hard time one or the other or both ARE SELL OUTS! lol they take vows to be there in bad times but that's not how it is. I hang on to hope that I will find a partner but I am not sure anymore I've been divorced 2 years and single for 4 years I have been with nobody he was my last and I feel worthless at times

@churchofjesuschrist

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment and for sharing your experience. We're so sorry for the pain and difficulty you've experienced. Our Heavenly Father promises strength and comfort when divorce or other difficulty become our reality: "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28). The following article from a young divorced member of the Church may be of interest to you or others: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/03/young-adults/hope-and-healing-after-divorce?lang=eng Take care!

I feel sorry for people wo gets divorced. Sometime it's hard to work things out, but we can do it.

@Laura-lb4jn

6 жыл бұрын

You know what Paul?! I said the very same thing you did...why can't they just work it out.... judgemental me.... until I went thru one myself. Everyone's divorce is so different. You bet its hard to work things out and you try for many years, doing everything you've been taught to do. Just because a couple is divorced doesnt mean that they didnt give it all they had. Everyone is on a different journey, doing the best they can with what light and knowledge they have. God loves them just as much as He does you. I appreciated this video. :)

@SusanDianeHowell

6 жыл бұрын

Paul Artz - Feel sorry for?...or just feel.

@Blondie-2468

6 жыл бұрын

Simplistic?

@jennielauber8308

5 жыл бұрын

It's not that easy. If it were, I'd be married still. It takes TWO people to want to work things out. Ex-husband didn't want to. I did all I could to keep the marriage together.

Sometimes you need to cut a bad situation loose. My husband cheated(I didn't). I felt I would be as bad as him if I did. Men asked me to cheat with them at work & I said no. I valued my marriage vows. He wouldn't go to marriage counseling. I went to my GYN because I was pregnant(Dan was with me)the GYN said I wasn't pregnant performed a pelvic exam & drew blood to confirm I was not. That night I miscarried a 4-month-old fetus on the bathroom floor. We went to ER. After we returned from the hospital Dan said he was going to work(which he didn't do half the time). I did not see him for 3 days. No phone call, nothing. When he returned he told me he didn't understand why everything had to happen to him not I'm sorry or I love you. I wasn't even angry-I was just too hurt. We stayed together 6 more months after that . He promised to go the drug rehab(would be his 3rd time) at the VA hospital. The night before he was to go in he told me he didn't have a problem with his drugs & just agreed to go to shut me up. Needless to say, I left the next day for good. I have had a happier life for it. I kept telling myself his having been a marine in Vietnam was why he was the way he was. No, he would of been a selfish man if he had never been in war. He died last Dec, he whined no one cared about him. He was right. He died basicly alone in the VA hospital. He came first before any of his children, wives(he went through 4), family members or friends. I only wished I hadn't stayed as long as I did. Ladies, if your mate(Husband, Lover, Whatever) does not Love or Appericiate you, move on , find someone better, you deserve more.

@yosemite735

6 жыл бұрын

When I found the cocaine vial in his sock drawer I knew it was over. It took many years to get the courage to leave him.

@danieldeluca4936

5 жыл бұрын

The only part I would disagree with you here is with that statement about finding someone better. That is adultery.

@goodahead

5 жыл бұрын

Getting married again isnt adultery. We all deserve someone who loves us. Not someone who pretends like they love us and then destroys us when we are alone. That isnt marriage. That is abuse. Love isnt knowingly hurting your spouse.

@marcelastacey890

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel DeLuca Dude! Get over this idea you have!! It’s wrong! Really. Go figure it out.

My wife wants to divorce, but I love her so much, I don't know what to do.

@seanbritish

5 жыл бұрын

The most important thing is give her space never arque with her be an example to her pray for her and remember what you did for her but whatever you do be humble and if she still wants to go wish her the best with gods blessings

There is no "moving on" after divorce....just one step after somtimes painful step forward.

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

don't doubt jesus' power to heal and make whole...it happens through faith. that's what the scriptures teach. discover it for yourself

Only God knows what will happen next time for me you us

Dont give up

I think the church members can be more inclusive to those who are divorced.

It's been a year since my best friend, my wife of 15 years and the mother of my 3 beautiful children told me that she was carrying on an online affair in the comments section of East Idaho News and that even though she didn't even know the guy's name or face or anything, she was in love with him. Yes, you read that right. All of it. Since all of the sexually explicit comments and inappropriate pictures and videos were public, it's also been a year since my public humiliation began. It's been between a year and 6 months since my children discovered some of those sexually explicit messages. I can't remember, honestly. It's been about 11 months since I discovered she was also carrying on a texting affair with a local married neighbor and that they met and kissed. Have you ever broken up with someone on your wife's behalf? That was fun. Meanwhile, she continued to hound the first guy for attention and, you know, his name and stuff. It's been about 10 months since I first attempted suicide. I spent our 15th anniversary in the hospital. Meanwhile, she carried on in the same manner in my absence. It's been about 9.5 months since she finally got to meet her one true love from the comments section. It's been about 9 months since a local loser, a 41 year old never-been-married semi-illiterate incel in the church with nothing to his name started sniffing around her at my house, buying her flowers, and trying to give my daughter a pony. Yes, you read that right. It's also been about 8.5 months since I fought him and made him bleed. It's been about 8.5 months since her and her comments section lover first shared a hotel room shortly after she went back on birth control. Apparently, after that, these rendezvous were pretty frequent until she got her own place. I had a vasectomy after Sunny, by the way. It's also been about 8.5 months since I discovered this, his identity, his address, and went and told his wife of 30 years that they were having an affair. It's been about 6 months since she actually divorced me. I don't know how long it's been since the comments section guy's 30 year marriage ended exactly, but it's over now. It's been about 5 months since I've been back in Hamer. It's been 8 days since I last attempted suicide. This was a temple marriage, meant to be eternal. This was my life. It ended in emotional and physical betrayal, great sorrow and anger, and the destruction of good lives. Satan is real. I'm not perfect, I never was. But 3 days after she told me about her online affair, I was called from Sunday School to the Elders Quorum presidency. I know I was worthy of the calling. He attacked my family through my ex-wife's weaknesses, and thereby amplified my own, namely depression and anger. He destroyed 2 families through the weakness of one person. Please don't be that person. Watch yourselves. Watch your spouses. Watch your kids. This insane experience has taught me how powerful Satan is. But if the devil is 6, then God is 7, and this monkey still wants to get to heaven. Please pray for my family. Please pray for me. Please don't think I'm a monster. One additional note: She did all this while claiming that she felt it was God's will and she was trying to do the right thing, and that she still loved me and would always love me. I can't help but think of Lori Daybell. Obviously, that's a much more extreme case of spiritual delusion, but lives were shattered in both cases by someone ignoring the plain and simple truths of the gospel in favor of bent and twisted justification of their own sin, pride, and vanity. God has always spoken plainly. Thou shall, thou shall not.

@nealdoster8556

3 ай бұрын

Grace to you Joel There are times when we can't see light at the end of the tunnel but it's there!! Please know that your kids need YOU and that your pain will subside given time to heal. There is NO do-over with a successful suicide. Afterwards you CANNOT say that was a huge mistake. So know that before hand and DON'T do it. In the effort to stop your pain you will merely cause it for others. DON'T create a void for those who need you. Look with hope into the future and realize that God can restore the things you've lost. I'm not a Mormon so I don't believe their extra-biblical doctrines, but I am a Christian who is praying for you. Blessings

deut 24:1-4 helped me a lot.

Wow

Thats sucks. You were all any man could ask for. Loyalty

Straight up, she kept her covenants and he didn't.

@ariellepletain5731

4 жыл бұрын

God knows and that's sufficent. None of our business.

You never know when he will come back. I say keep your heart open for his return like the prodigal son's homecoming.

@yosemite735

6 жыл бұрын

What if he comes back with his new wife?

@d.levichestnutwoodboillot8022

4 жыл бұрын

agreed.