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  • @RetroRecipes
    @RetroRecipes6 ай бұрын

    Congrats on the launch of your dream computer. A lot shown here is seriously impressive! Don’t worry I’m sure you’ll get plenty of support for Phase 1. Because as we all know PCB stands for Perfect Computer Buyers. Doesn’t it?

  • @CubicleNate

    @CubicleNate

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes it does!

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz

    @JohnSmith-xq1pz

    6 ай бұрын

    Well actually 🤓 it stands for Peri's baby is crying 😉

  • @bretwashere

    @bretwashere

    6 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @saltron7800

    @saltron7800

    6 ай бұрын

    5 screen Ghostbusters! Let's go😅

  • @donaldhoot7741

    @donaldhoot7741

    6 ай бұрын

    Nope! It means Prickly Corn Buns.

  • @okhouri
    @okhouri6 ай бұрын

    I tried to bring back that "magic" for my kids also, but then I came to the conclusion that that ship has sailed my friend. We were mesmerised by computers back in the 80s because they were new and magical. Kids today will never get that feeling that we had back in the 80s.

  • @andymouse

    @andymouse

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah it looked ok then and shit now.

  • @jr2904

    @jr2904

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@andymouse doesn't look like "shit", it is just primitive.

  • @grtitann7425

    @grtitann7425

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree. Sadly, times has changed and moved on. Heck, I think I "lost" the magic when Amiga and Atari failed to move into PowerPC and when BeOS, GEOS and OS/2 also died.

  • @RetroAdam

    @RetroAdam

    6 ай бұрын

    Same, my kids think old NES games are boring. 🤷 All Roblox and Minecraft now

  • @rya3190

    @rya3190

    6 ай бұрын

    I wish I had this when I was little, my main computer was a bit too important (and not mine) to mess with like this. My first laptop ran Minecraft at less than 10fps, and I loved it, but it didn't give the suggestion to "play" with it...This would've been great to encourage me.

  • @brick6347
    @brick63476 ай бұрын

    I'll be honest, as a niche product that caters to retro enthusiasts, I think this has a bright future. In much the same way that the market for vinyl and cassette continues to exist. It's pretty cool, I'd like to buy one. However, as a mass market education tool: no. I don't think it stands a chance. Parents of young children are in their 20s or early 30s; they probably don't actually know how to use it as they grew up with Windows or Macs. Moreover, the Raspberry Pi kind of fills that niche, assuming you can actually get one! Cheap, well-documented, the 400 is pretty close in form factor to something like a Spectrum, and if your kid bricks a Pi Zero, you're not going to lose any sleep. That's just my 2c. As I said, I think this is a cool project, and I would actually like to buy one.

  • @johnhorton3727

    @johnhorton3727

    6 ай бұрын

    Totally agree, Raspberry Pi already have the educational market using open software and delivers at 1/10 of the price. This has its place but at this price, it’s not going to be mainstream.

  • @SteveKirks

    @SteveKirks

    6 ай бұрын

    Totally agree. Better not to justify its existence with a use case like “avoid social media pressures”. A parent isn’t going to spend the money on this for a kid unless they are fully aware of the niche. A Pi or similar is a smarter move to learn programming skills for the future.

  • @BobischEBM

    @BobischEBM

    6 ай бұрын

    Back in the day, parents had no clue how to program/work with a Commodore 64.

  • @familiehermsen-ouwendijk3805

    @familiehermsen-ouwendijk3805

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​@@BobischEBMbut then again, nowadays they do on current gen machines.

  • @BobischEBM

    @BobischEBM

    6 ай бұрын

    @@familiehermsen-ouwendijk3805 Then they must be supervised or that modern computer has to be content filtered. With a machine like the Commander X there is no need for supervision or filtering.

  • @Zeebee1971
    @Zeebee19716 ай бұрын

    I agree it's a good toy for kids, but for kids from the 80s, not 2010s and younger. Just as fathers bought their sons model trains and played with them themselves, now grandparents will buy CommanderX16 for their grandchildren.

  • @swedishpsychopath8795

    @swedishpsychopath8795

    6 ай бұрын

    WRONG: They won't.

  • @kveitehitmaker6316

    @kveitehitmaker6316

    5 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @Aerojet01

    @Aerojet01

    3 ай бұрын

    I very much doubt that. We live in a completely different world. Today's children are more interested in their I Phones, PS5, online gaming, Tiktok account etc... You go to most people's homes and the children are in their bedrooms, rather than sitting with their parents or grand parents. A young guy at work, doesn't understand my fascination with a Commodore 64 I brought from eBay. He's sees it as old tech that should be in a landfill. Kids are more advanced these days and have access to an array of entertainment, so their expectations and tastes are very high. When I grew up, my first tech was a cassette radio, and black and white portable TV. At the time, I was over the moon. The X16 is for us middle aged oldies to relive the past. I wish him all the very best, but I see it struggling in the educational market, BASIC isn't going to cut nowadays. There are far too many modern software platforms and resources you can access via a PC, phone or tablet that can teach you coding from beginner to advanced.

  • @wesc6755
    @wesc67556 ай бұрын

    You're right about kids not wanting toys. That always drove me nuts too. I didn't want to play pretend computer; I wanted to learn. Kids don't want to be Wesley Crusher; they want to be Riker. Same deal.

  • @jonathaningram8157

    @jonathaningram8157

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah but between kids back then and kids now, there is a huge difference. They may not want toy computer, but the X16 is way to austere I think.

  • @therealjaystone2344

    @therealjaystone2344

    6 ай бұрын

    I remember when I had a leapfrog laptop in my early toddler days

  • @arisskarpetis

    @arisskarpetis

    6 ай бұрын

    Kids will be way less excited than retro parents about this. Unless they live in the woods and have never seen a computer before.

  • @SenkJu

    @SenkJu

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​@@jonathaningram8157I have to agree. It's much easier for kids to learn programming on a regular modern computer. Scratch seems to be great at capturing children's attention as it gives instant visual feedback and allows them to easily develop games. I simply do not believe that many of them would find developing some bouncing line program in BASIC very interesting. I am sure there are some who would enjoy it but for the vast majority it would be too abstract. Also, if they wanted to work closer to the hardware, a basic microcontroller could be a much cheaper alternative which would also allow them to build projects with a physical aspect (blinking LEDs, etc.)

  • @olik136

    @olik136

    6 ай бұрын

    I can't imagine many kids enjoying programming on a retro machine. With all the things modern machines can do- it would probably be hard to sell a kid on programming hangman in text mode. But I could be wrong

  • @snipsnap9995
    @snipsnap99956 ай бұрын

    Don't get me wrong I love this project, but I think you might be a little optimistic about the prospects of ever evolving this into an educational tool. You went through the pain of learning basic as a kid because computers were new and exciting, but kids these days have ipads with retina screens and an effective endless stream of content on the internet. A pixelated terminal just doesn't impress anymore, (except for a few especially nerdy ones, but if we're honest a Raspberry Pi running a modern Linux kernel is probably a more fitting learning tool for the next generation of nerds-not to mention already a very popular one that will be hard to compete with).

  • @Mlpzeldafan011100

    @Mlpzeldafan011100

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean, kids can like pixelated stuff just fine, it's still a widely used artstyle on those retina display ipads. The Commander'as prospects are the *simplicity* of it, where getting into Linux and higher-level code would probably require having... someone to help, who already understands it. As someone who cut her programming teeth in Qbasic and 6502 assembly in year of our lord 2015, there *is* an appeal to simple as dirt systems, for those starting to understand computers without help. Maybe not a *marketable* appeal, but, an appeal.

  • 6 ай бұрын

    Nowadays not even Raspberry PI is a good fit. Kids will soon tinker with IA stuff. 😊

  • @MustardMan7321

    @MustardMan7321

    6 ай бұрын

    Not to mention that BASIC's only modern usage is in the hobbyist realm. It's irrelevant in the professional world. Learning modern programming and scripting languages is going to serve them much better in life.

  • @hstubbs3

    @hstubbs3

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@MustardMan7321Python is just basic without line numbers, CMV ... Doesn't matter if basic or scratch or TIS-100 or C or Go or Rust .. You learn how to program, and then you can learn whatever language... Unless you learn Lisp...

  • @gdawwg1125

    @gdawwg1125

    6 ай бұрын

    what about minecraft , how do you explain that

  • @Jrose11
    @Jrose116 ай бұрын

    I've been a huge fan of the channel for years, and am super excited to see you get to build and market your dream computer. I hope it does well, but I don't know if a computer like this can succeed in education market today. The fundamental issue is software. Using a modern Mac/PC or even smartphone offers so much more, and with emulation, can even offer X16 Software. As for in-home I think the main thing holding it back right now is the lack of HDMI port. Non-retro consumers likely don't have VGA/Composite monitors anymore, and the inability to just plug it in may be an issue. I do hope you can overcome these challenges, because a device which has great software and that doesn't have the problems you mentioned with modern machines would be great!

  • @darak2

    @darak2

    6 ай бұрын

    You can get a Raspberry Pi for a fraction of the price, and a very small fraction at that. For a kid, a Raspberry with Python is a far more useful and far more interesting learning environment than any retro clone computer. In my opinion, all the talk about kids and education is a fool's errand, just parents wanting their kids to like the same kids they liked when they were their age, despite that making no sense.

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    6 ай бұрын

    @@darak2 Not sure why people keep mentioning the Pi - since pre-school my kids have been given school-issued iPad's or Chromebooks.

  • @legolad1018

    @legolad1018

    6 ай бұрын

    @@looneyburgmusic because it’s cheap (as in rrp like a pi 3 is about £33 and can do much more

  • @MrDuncl

    @MrDuncl

    6 ай бұрын

    A Raspberry Pi can emulate the BBC Micro, a computer that was designed for education and would eventually lead to to development of the ARM processor (for the BBC Micros successor).

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MrDuncl yes But schools want inexpensive complete systems - a role the Chromebook fits perfectly

  • @mechaform
    @mechaform6 ай бұрын

    Congratulations! This is an amazing accomplishment for you and the team.

  • @dave_jones
    @dave_jones6 ай бұрын

    The nano editor is nice, but I think it's a long shot to ask kids to write code without the benefits of a mouse for cursor placement, select and move, copy/paste/cut, and even more helpful things like linting and autofill/suggestions. I get that i'm talking to people who grew up without those things in the 80's, but when the alternative exists, and is obviously available to anyone with a modern computer, it just feels unlikely. I hope we get to see a more powerful IDE come to the x16 that can actually be "fun" to write in, rather than "less of a chore." But that's not to say the nano editor isn't a huge step up, it's really awesome and actually encouraging to someone like me. I just don't think it's enough to "cross the gap" that would encourage a 6-12 year old to write programs on it when they could be writing programs on a locked down linux box with an actual IDE or even notepad++ and python.

  • @only257

    @only257

    6 ай бұрын

    Agreed 😊

  • @deckard5pegasus673

    @deckard5pegasus673

    6 ай бұрын

    Also programs like MIT scratch bring kids up to speed very quickly in programming, with drag and drop commands, etc. I helped my son write an atari berzerk clone and also a mario type game with scratch and it only took a day or two. The problem is the commander(or any 8 bit computer) is going to be much harder to program, and won't be much better than something made with Scratch. I now have turned my son on to linux and C programming, with the SDL library, you can blow away any 8 bit computer, and it's just as easy to program, as long as you stay with classic C and stay away from the modern "fad" languages.

  • @user-qd9pg8xt2k

    @user-qd9pg8xt2k

    6 ай бұрын

    I saw nano and thought, it needs vi/vim/neovim.

  • @lagunagfx

    @lagunagfx

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-qd9pg8xt2k you read my mind, Sir… now some dude on the interwebs is coding Emacs for the X16 right as we speak :)

  • @tapafon_red

    @tapafon_red

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-qd9pg8xt2kOr even something like Norton commander

  • @deeliciousplum
    @deeliciousplum6 ай бұрын

    7:28 "The Commander X16 literally cannot do those things." I am now picturing the ears of every coder, coders who loves a challenge, becoming red hot. They may choose to create either code or hardware or both which will allow the Commander X16 to do all of those things. I am not saying that they ought to. But, the challenge flag, a flag which was indirectly raised by that aforementioned statement, has been raised. 😇

  • @Schule04

    @Schule04

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean, he literally demonstrated a WIP wifi card in this video...

  • @trooperj9152

    @trooperj9152

    6 ай бұрын

    I used to get porn on my coco 3 from local BBSs in my early teens. Don't judge me!

  • @gluttonousmaximus9048

    @gluttonousmaximus9048

    6 ай бұрын

    Let's not forget that hornography comes in the form of classic novels too.

  • @nekoest

    @nekoest

    6 ай бұрын

    @@gluttonousmaximus9048 Someone's gonna port Fifty Shades of Grey to the X16 💀

  • @danielmichalski94

    @danielmichalski94

    6 ай бұрын

    Basically, if old, Fortran-powered IBM mainframes from 1960's could run "Edith" program, Commandor X16 will do it without problems xD I can see situation, where computer downloads firstly the resolution of picture, then, part by part, downloads small segments of image at one time, downsizes them by creating the mean value of bunch of pixels and converts it into ASCII characters to be displayed on the screen XD

  • @jamieabbott8372
    @jamieabbott83726 ай бұрын

    Super awesome! Congrats. Good luck! Always keeping an eye out on this project. We appreciate it so much

  • @blackIce504
    @blackIce5046 ай бұрын

    congratz releasing a computer must be a unreal feeling for you and your team.

  • @badinkstudios
    @badinkstudios6 ай бұрын

    I don't know if you'll see this comment, but I just wanted to let you know how inspiring I find the commander x16 project. I'm not much of a retro computing enthusiast beyond consuming videos about it, but just seeing your dream and all the hard work and creative pivots you've had to make long the way-it's so incredible to see that level of dedication. I'm working on several projects with massively long timelines (years long) and watching this series has given me a lot of energy I need to keep working.

  • @TheTitaniumBunker

    @TheTitaniumBunker

    6 ай бұрын

    OMG! @badinkstudios! I'm a subscriber to your channel and love your videos! (especially the shorts) didn't expect to see a cool comic youtuber hanging out here in a retro computing channel

  • @badinkstudios

    @badinkstudios

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TheTitaniumBunker that’s awesome! I’m a big fan of retro tech channels in general. Stuff like this or Techmoan. I just enjoy deep dives into technology, engineering, product design, and audio visual mediums. Those kinds of content creators are good examples of how to break something down and tell a clear story while highlighting nuances. It helped me learn how to make better content that broke complex ideas down in a fun way!

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow16 ай бұрын

    Looks incredibly professional for a product made privately.

  • @SamOlds2999

    @SamOlds2999

    6 ай бұрын

    125th like

  • @swedishpsychopath8795

    @swedishpsychopath8795

    6 ай бұрын

    It's made in China and making crap look nice is what they do.

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    6 ай бұрын

    Too be fair, it looks like any design would look, when manufactured by a company which makes these kinds of boards.

  • @minhhoangle5056

    @minhhoangle5056

    6 ай бұрын

    ok! it would be incredibly when benchmark i9-14900K vs Commanderx16

  • @sailcat662

    @sailcat662

    6 ай бұрын

    I almost bought some of the existing FPGA clones of older computers but none of them grabbed me like the CX16. I'm hyped!

  • @worldgate989
    @worldgate9896 ай бұрын

    I don't see the appeal in this product but i guess if your dream computer has snes ports in the back and not in the front where you would expect them to be then, sure, living the dream the way you want.

  • @kerzwhile
    @kerzwhile6 ай бұрын

    This is such an amazing result. Been watching you for YEARS and to see this dream of yours come to market is just so bad ass!! Congratulations! ❤

  • @thewaterreviewshow
    @thewaterreviewshow6 ай бұрын

    Buying a Commander X16 to develop ultra violent video games, viruses, and the pressures of social media.

  • @meetoo594
    @meetoo5946 ай бұрын

    This is a very cool project and im sure they will sell well to hobbyists but this will have no traction in the education sector. Raspberry pies, microbits and commodity pc`s have that market sewn up. Every child has access to these cheap machines at home, the software is standardised and readily available and skills can be directly transferred to the workplace when the time comes. Schools get thousands of these things very cheaply and parts are off the shelf and available everywhere. there is no way the x16 can scale up to make it worthwhile to educators. Worrying about violent games and porn is pointless at this point as every kid has a smartphone and console or pc where accessing this stuff is trivial. Having said that, I wish the project well, any new hobbyist machine coming to market is a joyous occasion.

  • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    2 ай бұрын

    sshh your ruining the dream

  • @sebastianbergman7810
    @sebastianbergman78106 ай бұрын

    Congratulations to reaching this milestone! I will definitely keep a look out for availability later on! Right now I'm awaiting the Spectrum Next from their 2nd KS, and hope to start introducing my kid to how I grew up with tech! The Commander looks freakin awesome, and if it ends up as a full kit with something like that case and a keyboard I'll most certainly be interested to order from the EU, if possible, even with the added import costs! love it, looks so great - and I'm so happy initiatives like this both keeps poppin up and successfully completes!

  • @Crafty_Chops
    @Crafty_Chops6 ай бұрын

    Congratulations on getting the X16 to market. Incredible. I hope I'll be able to buy one soon. Wishing you all the best.

  • @therealherbzy
    @therealherbzy6 ай бұрын

    Congratulations to the whole team!

  • @ThenTell
    @ThenTell6 ай бұрын

    Congratulations David! The computer looks great!

  • @datriaxsondor590
    @datriaxsondor5906 ай бұрын

    Nice work, Dave, and to all those involved. This looks, quite impressive, tbh. Best wishes with it moving forward. I have a good feeling, this is going to be very, very well received.

  • @electryc03
    @electryc036 ай бұрын

    Great news 8 bit guy and the others that made this come to life. Also stumbling on your youtube channel a few years ago, made me get into the Retro Market. I now have a working C64 and Amiga 500.

  • @plankalkulcompiler9468
    @plankalkulcompiler94686 ай бұрын

    Congrats on finally releasing it! I am following the project since its start and honestly it and your review of projects alike made me pursue electronic engineering. I was in last year of middle school when I discovered you and now I am second year bachelor. Thank you!

  • @johndododoe1411

    @johndododoe1411

    6 ай бұрын

    I too have followed from the start . Some concerns and ideas: 1. Add a tokenized Basic token to store indent and another for label so BASLOAD becomes reversible and these things can be input in line number mode (I assume you already have the old RENUM command). 2. Maybe reach out to 3D Realms new owners, maybe they can do something . 3. Look at other educational programmable systems like microBit, Pi400 and Arduino for further ideas . 4. Beware that the network/modem card can bring in all the baddies in text mode, especially the ones that currently roam on X and in chatrooms . 5. Try to get peek, poke and other simpler operations closer to blitz and assembler speeds . 6. Add graphics commands to ease sideways scrolling like in Ti Parsec and Super Mario . Perhaps draw off screen to the side then execute "HSCROLL count" where count is positive or negative for different directions .

  • @darkcoeficient

    @darkcoeficient

    6 ай бұрын

    Nice to hear!!

  • @desertfish74
    @desertfish746 ай бұрын

    Haven’t seen the BASLOAD combined with x16edit in action before this. This is a game changer for basic programming.

  • @johndododoe1411

    @johndododoe1411

    6 ай бұрын

    Reminds me of QBASIC from 30 years ago .

  • @_droid

    @_droid

    6 ай бұрын

    Or the open-source FreeBASIC that is still going, up-to-date, and very fast.

  • @illegalsmirf

    @illegalsmirf

    6 ай бұрын

    lol is basic programming still an active scene in 2023

  • @another3997

    @another3997

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@johndododoe1411Commodore Basic, in any of it's variations, was never as good as QBasic. They wanted compatability with old CBM v2, which was just a bare bones and particularly version of standard MS 8 bit Basic, and yet they've added their own, incompatible commands. Which begs the question... why bother with CBM BASIC in the first place?

  • @johndododoe1411

    @johndododoe1411

    6 ай бұрын

    @@another3997 All the MS 8 bit basics were customized per computer . Adding extension commands were standard with C=128 having the most CBM extensions and other computers having their own extensions . It seems the new extensions are above and beyond C=128, with as much backwards compatibility as they could get . QBASIC, while 16 bits, was the most evolved of the old style MS BASIC versions, succeeding IBM ROM BASIC and GWBASIC for those machines .

  • @mikej2239
    @mikej22396 ай бұрын

    Looks amazing! Thank you for the demo. I hope it inspires some people to pickup and tinker with computers.

  • @bobsurface908
    @bobsurface9086 ай бұрын

    Fascinating! I've been watching this since it all started. I learned on the C64 at 13 or so, but it's been soooo long ago, and I'm so busy I'm fully aware I don't have a realistic prospect of learning all this all over again. I sat down at an old C128 and I literally didn't even remember how to get the alternate characters etc. I love the computer. I love the work you've done. I wish I had the time and energy to invest into re-learning it. In my defense, I also write and create music on Linux home studio systems, do astrophotography and somehow work full-time at the same time as living with a wife who works full time, my step-son and his daughter AND my two granddaughters both under three. So...yeah. Amazing work though!

  • @marcello4258
    @marcello42586 ай бұрын

    What a ride! Congrats to all people who worked in the project. You have my sincere respect!

  • @user-jg4rv9zr5s
    @user-jg4rv9zr5s6 ай бұрын

    Excellent, Dave! My pre-order is already in, and I can't wait. My retro-computing to date has been exclusively on the Color Maximite 2, but I have a lot of other experience with other computers, many different languages including assembler languages, so I hope to get up the X16 learning curve pretty fast and produce some decent software.

  • @MagnusEdvarsson
    @MagnusEdvarsson6 ай бұрын

    Yesss! I've been following this Odissey step by step, I'm so happy to see you finally did it!

  • @davidcarlin3850
    @davidcarlin38505 ай бұрын

    An 8 bit computer…….something I wanted back in 1982.

  • @Roxy53280
    @Roxy532806 ай бұрын

    Him: kids can use this without parents worrying about the horrors of the internet Me: *furiously writes web browser*

  • @MrLind87

    @MrLind87

    6 ай бұрын

    The more this machine would do is to ping on a server and maybe write a tweet that you can't actually see, I don't expect any HTML5 red player running on it, but he already set the challenge, so who knows?

  • @Roxy53280

    @Roxy53280

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MrLind87 👍

  • @mindfury1980

    @mindfury1980

    6 ай бұрын

    Could write an X16 version of something like Lynx perhaps?

  • @another3997

    @another3997

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@SnakebitSTI I think you meant "bloated" rather than "advanced" 😉

  • @wesleymays1931

    @wesleymays1931

    6 ай бұрын

    @@another3997 no, it's definitely "advanced"

  • @grandrapids57
    @grandrapids576 ай бұрын

    Congratulations. This has been a labor of love and each posting of your progress has been great.

  • @bits-and-bytes
    @bits-and-bytes6 ай бұрын

    Looks like a great product with lots of great improvements on the way! Can't wait to get my hands on one.

  • @paulhuhtala4541
    @paulhuhtala45414 ай бұрын

    Seems like you're truly living your dream! It's cool watching your channel/business evolve over all these years.

  • @Opie91
    @Opie916 ай бұрын

    Have been following this since the beginning and looking forward to it. I have a 15-year-old son who is into retro computing. Had him watch your video, and he is super excited about the X16! Waiting for the cheaper version did not seem to make sense to me, seeing that in two years, he will be 17, and it may be too late for him at that point. Keep up the great work and thanks!

  • @jackilynpyzocha662

    @jackilynpyzocha662

    2 ай бұрын

    Smart kid to be interested in retro computing!

  • @gillihansmobilewelding6318

    @gillihansmobilewelding6318

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@jackilynpyzocha662Smart parent to make smart kid.

  • @Simon-ui6db
    @Simon-ui6db6 ай бұрын

    Great news. Well done on getting it into production.

  • @johnm9263
    @johnm92636 ай бұрын

    if you are concerned about basic's line number issue... smilebasic for the Nintendo DSi/3DS and Switch has labels that you can define, which means you can basically name any point in the code as a jump point for a very easily human-readable program, calculator BASIC is nearly identical in this fashion

  • @TylerComptonShow
    @TylerComptonShow6 ай бұрын

    Congratulations on this huge milestone! I can't imagine the amount of work that was required to get here.

  • @3DSage
    @3DSage6 ай бұрын

    I'm your man for 3D! :)

  • @AussieAmigan

    @AussieAmigan

    6 ай бұрын

    Will you be writing libraries the community can use?

  • @DailyCorvid
    @DailyCorvid6 ай бұрын

    At last! This is superb. Amazing work all around, really fantastic from the first day to launch day. I cannot congratulate and compliment you enough David and your team also. I shall be ordering one at the weekend!

  • @hansoak3664
    @hansoak36646 ай бұрын

    Well done to you and all of those who contributed in some way. This is impressive!

  • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    6 ай бұрын

    a huge thanks goes out to pcb-way yay

  • @hansoak3664

    @hansoak3664

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Indeed! 🙂

  • @davidcarlson2481
    @davidcarlson24816 ай бұрын

    Congratulations David on such a big milestone! I’ve been following since the beginning and preordered my X16 and accessories last week. So exciting!!! I’m grateful for all of the hard work you’ve done and can’t wait to set the physical system up when it arrives! This is one of those rare things I’ll be happy to lose sleep over. 😊

  • @alexanderhill2569
    @alexanderhill25696 ай бұрын

    Hah! Looks like the website went down due to the sheer number of requests. I might not be able to get one in the first batch, but I've been waiting for this for YEARS. Excited to see that your dream has finally come to fruition!

  • @valrond

    @valrond

    6 ай бұрын

    Indeed, I just tried it and it doesn't work. I was busy when the video came out, I should have watched the video first. Well, the good news is that the newer units will get better.

  • @unexpecteditem7919
    @unexpecteditem79196 ай бұрын

    That was so satisfying when the IO perfectly fit in the rear ports haha. Also I had no idea why this product was a thing, or who it was for, but when I grew up with a BBC Micro in our maths classroom, and was so obsessed with making it play silly noises and screen colours, I completely support this product. Awesome stuff tbh!

  • @caeserromero3013
    @caeserromero30136 ай бұрын

    Commodore got me into games, then onto PC games, which is where I learned the basic DOS skills that formed the basis of a career in IT.

  • @nigelhill74
    @nigelhill746 ай бұрын

    Exciting to see the progress! Thanks for the update

  • @mikewifak
    @mikewifak6 ай бұрын

    Man, this is really cool and if I could swing it financially, I’d snag one immediately. But I have to say, I can’t see either one of my kids (7 and 11) bothering to tinker with it in a world where they can write entire games in modern languages using an in-browser learning ide. It’s a noble goal to keep them away from internet dangers, but also maybe a bit unrealistic unless maybe you’re Amish.

  • @andymouse

    @andymouse

    6 ай бұрын

    Lol !

  • @tym0tym

    @tym0tym

    6 ай бұрын

    Kids won't get excited about DIP chips, performance comparisons with C64/Apple2, or the VIC-20 origins of the platform. Nor will they appreciate the IEC bus connector. In fact, exposing kids to X16 might even be harmful to them. Scratch is perfect for younger children because they can start programming and grasp the basics (sequence of commands, conditional statements, loops, AND/OR logic) even before they can type proficiently. All this in a welcoming environment. How can BASIC even compare to that? Older kids will benefit more from modern Python or Pico8.

  • @keyboard_g

    @keyboard_g

    6 ай бұрын

    A few months ago they were positioning it as a game console. The x16 is neat, but they are still trying to find a market bigger than his viewers to care.

  • @mikewifak

    @mikewifak

    6 ай бұрын

    @@keyboard_g I really don’t know if such a market is gonna exist. Pretty sure that trying to become the next TI graphing calculator long after the tech is obsolete to everyone but hobbyists is gonna go badly.

  • @bitwolfy

    @bitwolfy

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​@@mikewifakit's not, this basically only appeals to a specific group that grew up in the era of basic, and I'm absolutely happy they get something like this that appeals to them it's amazing, but it will never have mass market applications. Businesses won't use it cause raspberry pi's are infinitely more useful and cheaper. Education is pointless cause if you're gonna teach kids tech skills (trust me they need them) basic is absolutely pointless in 2023 since it will never be used. Adults going into university literally don't know what file directories are, teach them that over basic. And gamers won't buy if there's any actually good games for it cause there's a free emulator.

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai6 ай бұрын

    I'm always impressed with the updates in the development of this project! I'd love to see some music software in the future! (Hopefully will a piano roll instead of a tracker style timeline.)

  • @paulgray1699
    @paulgray16996 ай бұрын

    Every time I try and watch this I fall asleep.

  • @Monster_Rancher
    @Monster_Rancher6 ай бұрын

    Nice work, its good to see a retro project take off like this.

  • @TimmyJoePCTech
    @TimmyJoePCTech6 ай бұрын

    I don't think that circle chart accurately depicts how successful you'll be selling that to kids. You can't compete with a tablet or a cell phone. Handheld devices that teach kids how to use tools they'll need when they're an adult versus a desktop computer that does nothing but play games and code basic? It can't appeal to the masses. Sure there'll be some nerdy hobby type kids that could get into it but don't have high expectations. I have an 8 yr old. If it doesn't play Roblox it's not cool.

  • @TimmyJoePCTech

    @TimmyJoePCTech

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm not trying to be disrespectful either I'm just a reliable source on kids. Good luck regardless

  • @timberinternational2377

    @timberinternational2377

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SnakebitSTI Exactly, people are learning to code because it's a useful skill, learning to code in commodore basic is less useful than learning to code in cobol for gods sake, atleast some ancient mainframe hardware that's still hanging on runs cobol!

  • @888cromartie
    @888cromartie6 ай бұрын

    Have you checked in with educators about the concept? It seems like kids would be better served learning modern languages like Python. Yesterday I did a Basic tutorial on and Apple II machine and asked myself if I would want my kid starting out with coding on that. Maybe they could for a very brief amount of time, but I feel like it would be better to have them get on to a more relevant language to have it be more useful in the long run.

  • @axelBr1
    @axelBr16 ай бұрын

    Congratulations on the launch of your dream computer. I learnt to program on a ZX81, 1K of memory and then an Amstrad CPC 464 using the thick manuals that came with the computer.

  • @DFWTexan42
    @DFWTexan426 ай бұрын

    Glad to see the continued success of your retro PC. I know your heart really has been in this for decades.

  • @QuaaludeCharlie
    @QuaaludeCharlie6 ай бұрын

    I am 56 and I appreciate all that your doing for the Computer Hobbyist , 8 Bit Guy , Thank you . Liked and Shared :) QC

  • @bookvee
    @bookvee6 ай бұрын

    Well done! I can almost FEEL someone out there planning a lemmings port.

  • @RicardoFelicioOficial
    @RicardoFelicioOficial5 ай бұрын

    Fantastic! Here in Brazil we also used a version of BASIC in the form of an editor with paragraph names (without numbers). It was Turbo BASIC and QBASIC. They offered the option to compile as well. Congratulations to everyone on the new computer production team, Mr David and other 8-BIT GUY collaborators. Thank you very much!

  • @nevyn
    @nevyn6 ай бұрын

    Three decades ago, I learned programming using QBasic in DOS! An editor with a run command and built-in help and api reference was all it took to teach me as a kid programming from scratch. It was amazingly fun. So kudos on building a proper code editor into the thing!

  • @brianhginc.2140
    @brianhginc.21406 ай бұрын

    Congrats on the launch of computer. You driving with phenomenal attitude and energy. 2 thumbs UP! from a fellow hobbyist who grew up playing and engineering on 8-bit computers.

  • @ChillyPeppers
    @ChillyPeppers6 ай бұрын

    Your competition isn't V-Tech, its the various Raspberry Pi educational packages that offer much more for less than half the price. You absolutely know those exist.

  • @jauffins

    @jauffins

    6 ай бұрын

    This couldn't be more different from a Raspberry Pi if it tried lmao

  • @AllboroLCD
    @AllboroLCD6 ай бұрын

    The Commodore platform is EXCELLENT as an intro to computing for kids/starters. Kudos on your vision and perserverance!

  • @Aplysia
    @Aplysia6 ай бұрын

    I'm so happy for you! Congratulations!

  • @KevboKev
    @KevboKev6 ай бұрын

    7:18 - Those ultra-violet video games can be BLINDING!!!!

  • @desertfish74

    @desertfish74

    6 ай бұрын

  • @brianmckinley7172
    @brianmckinley71726 ай бұрын

    The biggest problems here for me is going to be the price (I was 100% sure this wasn't going to be 50$ and that's ok). Although the parts in the computer aren't expensive compared to the parts today, I bet that a big part of the price is due to your manufacturing capabilities at home. If all of the computers we use now were produced by two people in a shop, the price would be at least 10 fold the same way that yours is. Congrats btw it looks awesome! In short: If u want a better price and more profit, create a business or licence the product to a manufacturer.

  • @stefanegger
    @stefanegger6 ай бұрын

    The 8 Bit Guy, my man, strikes again! Well done, and good luck. Amazing you finally did it, I cant believe it.

  • @soggybaguette8457
    @soggybaguette84576 ай бұрын

    You guys are incredible! Keep it up!

  • @andreasjoannai6441
    @andreasjoannai64415 ай бұрын

    I suggest having a yellow light if the disk can be read, but not written to. If it cannot be read, then have the light turn red. And also, if the disk can be both read and written to, then have a green light to indicate that.

  • @RamsesTimeGame
    @RamsesTimeGame6 ай бұрын

    I would love to see the case have brackets for the slots with the proper holes for whatever application.

  • @Ragenule
    @Ragenule6 ай бұрын

    Congrats, gang! I'm happy to have been able to help with this project, even if it was only financially through the donation drive.

  • @limas1991
    @limas19916 ай бұрын

    I'm really happy to see that your dream is coming true. Congratulations. I follow your channel since 2016. During the pandemics I stopped watching videos as i did in the past. Today I came back here and what a surprise!! Congratulations! Hugs from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. - Sincerely, Felipe Lima

  • @Piggynatorgaming
    @Piggynatorgaming6 ай бұрын

    Congrats on kicking off sales! I hope it sells well ^^

  • @lilmul123

    @lilmul123

    6 ай бұрын

    It won't

  • @Kirkklan
    @Kirkklan6 ай бұрын

    Still feel like this might end up with the same trajectory the Amiga went, but we'll see. I do heavily agree with the software call-out at the end. I've been thinking about making either a webzine, magazine, webshow or all of the above to just showcase software wherein one could send in their programs to showcase. I'd kinda go for a Nintendo Power vibe or something similar, but eh. I'm not sure if it'd be best to do a call-out to other developers out there who have done their own stuff on other platforms, I'd rather try to give the X16 its own identity with its own pantheon of devs as time goes on. Either way, I do give kudos for this coming along this far, and hope it does the best it can.

  • @z3r0c00l2
    @z3r0c00l26 ай бұрын

    My humble congratulations David. Awesome 👍

  • @MAJohns
    @MAJohns6 ай бұрын

    Great stuff. Good luck with the first run...

  • @markhatch1267
    @markhatch12676 ай бұрын

    Very interesting study of design choices, implementation realities, and the reactions of the fans. Hopefully some enthusiasts who are also parents will be willing to ante up for the gen 1 machines, because they want to see it be made available to a larger audience. I have been a fan and observer of the personal computer world since high school from '79 to '82. I do have a collection of old systems of my own I want to get up and going some day soon.

  • @Shogunwario
    @Shogunwario6 ай бұрын

    This channel has gone off the rails with this.

  • @fobef
    @fobef4 ай бұрын

    The megaman poc looks sick! 15:26

  • @fonephreak02
    @fonephreak025 ай бұрын

    Wow. Congrats man! Incredible to see this.

  • @jgurtz
    @jgurtz6 ай бұрын

    Such a sweet project! Congratulations on the release and really just want to say thank you for you all's vision and perseverance in getting it to where it is. Really incredible!

  • @xnamkcor
    @xnamkcor6 ай бұрын

    I like how he walked us through 321*1000.

  • @Fred_le_lorrain
    @Fred_le_lorrain6 ай бұрын

    This is an incredible machine that you have built. I hope you sell a lot of them. I am amazed.

  • @F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w
    @F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w6 ай бұрын

    Good luck i hope they sell well. Out of my price range right now but i understand the costs. Once again good luck! Its looking absolutely awesome so far! And i genuinely hope it gets to the educational stage.

  • @trueluscao
    @trueluscao6 ай бұрын

    what an awesome journey!

  • @BrunoB78
    @BrunoB786 ай бұрын

    I think when we were kids we started programming because we wanted to make our games, modeled after the games we played on the computers themselves. I think the Commander X16 would have many more chances to succeed in this respect if it had an easy way to export to mobile, so that kids would be motivated to create games for the platform where they and their friends actually play on! of course they wouldn't be the same as commercial games (nor were ours) but they'd have a way to show and play their creations with others (as we did). good luck in any case!

  • @Bigtbone205

    @Bigtbone205

    Ай бұрын

    My first computer was a zx81 with 16k ram. I got it for Xmas along with a book that had the basic code for about 50 simple games. I had to painfully type in the code and then save it to my tape cassette. Very quickly I was modifying these games to make them more interesting and then onward to writing my own basic games. Next was the zx spectrum which had a great basic programming manual. I learnt practical applications for math and basic physics to create my own games. This all set me up for a lifelong career in the IT field. So glad I grew up in the 80s!

  • @nitram1666
    @nitram16666 ай бұрын

    Great work! I still remember the first videos on this machine.

  • @bitset3741
    @bitset37416 ай бұрын

    "...depending on the sales of the first generation unit in order to fund the development of the second..." That is where Retro Games was with the C64 Mini a few years back and people didn't know if they wanted the Mini with the non-functional keyboard. And now... we have the Maxi, and TheA500 etc. Cool stuff can happen when creative people have some funding.

  • @MyChannel-vm6dw
    @MyChannel-vm6dw6 ай бұрын

    Is it weird that I know for a fact that I will never program on the X16 but I get so excited when there is a video or update about it? The entire history from first video announcement to this one. I can't get enough 😅😅😅

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark1516 ай бұрын

    Congrats on distributing your newly built computer! I would so get this computer if I can add a cassette drive, since I got old school programs that are saved on tapes from C64, it’s hard to find a C64 computer online, not counting that C64 mini which is mostly a retro game console, and not a legacy computer for retro computer enthusiasts!

  • @arranmacgabhann4472
    @arranmacgabhann44726 ай бұрын

    That case is absolutely gorgeous! Congratulations.

  • @pburdick7
    @pburdick76 ай бұрын

    Great job! Thank you for the update.

  • @michaelhess4825
    @michaelhess48256 ай бұрын

    I love this! Hilariously, the first game I programmed, on an apple 2, was an "ultra violent game" 😂 my teacher was impressed, but wouldn't let me share it 😢.

  • @TheKnobCalledTone.
    @TheKnobCalledTone.6 ай бұрын

    If "ultra violent" video games are a no-go for the CX16, I guess that rules out my idea: Sandwich Shop Simulator.

  • @Nbrother1607
    @Nbrother16076 ай бұрын

    50% technical stuff 50% how they will get into the educational market

  • @sueastside
    @sueastside6 ай бұрын

    7:29 'The commander X16 literally can't do those things' Hold my beer while I port Leisure Suit Larry....

  • @ndsteinbach
    @ndsteinbach6 ай бұрын

    The blood, sweat, and tears that went into this thing, such great news!

  • @jlitagibfonseca
    @jlitagibfonseca6 ай бұрын

    Congrats, David! You deserve all success on this project!

  • @kFY514
    @kFY5146 ай бұрын

    The educational angle brings back memories. My path was a bit different but I can resonate with the idea. I got my first computer at the age of about 6. It was during the early Pentium era - but what I got was a 386SX with Hercules graphics. At first I was very disappointed with the amber monitor and not being able to play any contemporary games - but I ended up spending a ton of time learning to code in QBasic, then Turbo Pascal, writing batch scripts, advanced CONFIG.SYS techniques (DOS 6 boot menus, anyone?), examining every file of the MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 installs that were on there - all that before I was even a teen. My parents happily let me break things, so it had to be reformatted just days after I originally got it... but the next time I knew how to do it myself. So yeah, a computer that's obsolete but not a toy, can be a really good idea for a kid indeed. Although I'm still a bit worried that modern kids might be put off by just how far behind modern hardware the X16 is, especially in terms of graphics.

  • @guywilkinson
    @guywilkinson6 ай бұрын

    Awesome work and what a fascinating project. Reliving the 80's too with a modern take 😊